Seymour Hersh Cracks ‘RussiaGate’ as CIA-Planted Lie — Revenge Against Trump

Eric Zuesse

This report has now been updated to August 6th:

During the later portion of a phone-call, by the world’s greatest investigative journalist, Seymour Hersh, Hersh has now presented “a narrative [from his investigation] of how that whole fucking thing began,” including who actually is behind the ‘RussiaGate’ lies, and of why they are spreading these lies.

In a youtube video upload-dated August 1st, he reveals from his inside FBI and Washington DC Police Department sources — now, long before the Justice Department’s Special Counsel Robert Mueller will be presenting his official ‘findings’ to the nation — that the charges that Russia had anything to do with the leaks from the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to Wikileaks, that those charges spread by the press, were a CIA-planted lie, and that what Wikileaks had gotten was only leaks (including at least one from the murdered DNC-staffer Seth Rich), and were not from any outsider (including ’the Russians’), but that Rich didn’t get killed for that, but was instead shot in the back during a brutal robbery, which occurred in the high-crime DC neighborhood where he lived. Here is the video, and here is the transcript of it:

I’ll tell you what I know:

(Mumble) comes off an FBI report, don’t ask me how, I can figure out, I’ve been around long enough:

The kid gets — I don’t think he was murdered [because of this] I don’t think he was murdered because of what he knew, the kid was a nice boy, 27, he was not an ITS person, he learned stuff, he was a data-programmer, but he learned stuff, and so he was living on one street, somewhere, he was living in a very rough neighborhood, and in the exact area where he lived, there had been about, I am sure you know, there had been about 8 or 9 or 10, violent robberies, most of them with somebody brandishing a gun [here are the neighborhood’s crime-statistics as “Colombia Heights,” and here as “Bloomingdale,” which is nearby; and in the latter neighborhood, there had been, for examples, robberies using a gun on June 17, 19, and 21, of 2017], and I am sure you know, his [the kid’s] hands were marked up, the cops concluded [HERSH HAD OBTAINED ACCESS TO THE POLICE REPORT] he fought off the people, he tried to run, and they shot him twice in the back with a 22, small-caliber, and then the kid that did it ran, he got scared. So, the cops do this, here’s what nobody knows, what I am telling you, now maybe you do know something about it: When you have a death like that, DC cops, as you’re [dealing now with a person who is] dead, you generally don’t zip and go, yep I know, what’s the motive, what’s going on, you have to get to the kid’s apartment and see what you can find. If he’s dead, you don’t need a warrant, but most cops get a warrant because they don’t know if the guy has a roommate, so they get a warrant, I’m just telling you, there is such a thing. They go in and can’t do much with his computer, [to find the] password, the cops don’t know much about it, so the cops have a cyber unit in DC, and they’re more sophisticated, they come in and look at it. The idea is maybe he has had a series of exchanges with somebody who said ‘I am going to kill you motherfucker’ over a girl, and they can’t get in, the cyber guys are a little better, but they can’t make sense of it, so they call the FBI cyber unit. The DC unit, the Russian[-monitoring] and field office is a hot-shit unit. The guy running the Washington field office, he’s like a three-star at an army-base, he’s ready [mumble], you know what I mean, he’s going to do a top job. There’s a cyber unit there that’s excellent. What you get in a warrant, the public information you get in a warrant doesn’t include the affidavits underlying why you are going in, what the reason was. That’s almost never available, I can tell you that — the thesis of a warrant as a public document 99% of the time. So they call in the feds, the feds get through, and here’s what they find [HERSH HAD OBTAINED ACCESS TO THE FBI REPORT]. This is according to the FBI report. What they find is, first of all you have to know some basic facts, one of the basic facts is there is no DNC or protected email that exists beyond May 22nd, the last email from either one of those groups. So, what the report says, is:

(2:50-) At some time in late spring, which we’re talking about in June 21st, I don’t know, just late spring early summer, he makes contact with Wikileaks, that’s in his computer, and he makes contact. Now, I have to be careful because I met Julian [Assange] in Europe ten twelve years [ago], I stay the fuck away from people like that. He has invited me and when I am in London, I always get a message, ‘come see me at the Ecuadorean’ [Embassy], and I am fucking not going there. I have enough trouble without getting photographed. He’s under total surveillance by everybody.

They found, what he had done, he [Seth Rich] had submitted a series of documents, emails from DNC — and, by the way, all this shit about the DNC, you know, was it a ‘hack’ or wasn’t it a ‘hack’ — whatever happened, it was the Democrats themselves wrote this shit, you know what I mean? All I know is that, he offered a sample, he sends a sample, you know, I am sure dozens of emails, and said ‘I want money’. Later Wikileaks did get the password [SETH RICH DID SELL WIKILEAKS ACCESS INTO HIS COMPUTER.] He had a drop-box, a [password-]protected drop-box, which isn’t hard to do. I mean you don’t have to be a whiz at IT [information technology], he was not a dumb kid. They got access to the drop-box. This is all from the FBI report. He also let people know with whom he was dealing, I don’t know how he dealt, I’ll tell you all about Wikileaks in a second, with Wikileaks the mechanism, but according to the FBI report, he shared his box with a couple of friends, so ‘If anything happens to me, it’s not going to solve your problem’, okay? I don’t know what that means. But, anyway, Wikileaks got access. And, before he was killed, I can tell you right now, [Obama’s CIA Director John] Brennan’s an asshole. I’ve known all these people for years, Clapper is sort of a better guy but no rocket-scientist, the NSA guys are fuckin’ morons, and the trouble with all those guys is, the only way they’ll get hired by SAIC, is if they’ll deliver some [government] contracts, it’s the only reason they stayed in. With Trump, they’re gone, they’re going to live on their pension, they’re not going to make it [to great wealth]. I’ve gotta to tell you, guys in that job, they don’t want to live on their pension. They want to be on [corporate] boards like their [mumble] thousand bucks [cut].

I have somebody on the inside, you know I’ve been around a long time, somebody who will go and read a file for me, who, this person is unbelievably accurate and careful, he’s a very high-level guy, he’ll do a favor, you’re just going to have to trust me, I have what they call in my business, long-form journalism, I have a narrative, of how that whole fucking thing began.

(5:50-) It’s a Brennan operation. It was an American disinformation, and the fucking President, at one point when they even started telling the press — they were back[ground]-briefing the press, the head of the NSA was going and telling the press, the fucking cocksucker Rogers, telling the press that we [they] even know who in the Russian military intelligence service leaked it. All bullshit. They were telling. I worked at the New York Times those fucking years, they’re smart guys, but they’re totally beholden on [to] sources. If the President or the head of the CIA tells them something, they actually believe it. I retired at the Times at the end of the Vietnam War 1972, because they were just locked-in. So that’s what the Times is, these guys run the fuckin’ Times, and Trump’s not wrong, I wish he would calm down, get a better press secretary, you know, not be so — Trump’s not wrong to think they all fucking lied about him.

UPDATE:

The media-coverage of this matter is focusing on allegations that Seth Rich was murdered in order to silence him. All such media-coverage ignores much of what Hersh said on the phone (where Hersh makes clear that Rich was, indeed, murdered in a regular robbery), and therefore should be viewed as an example of what the Washington Post and others in the mainstream press call ‘fake news’, but which actually applies to themselves, on both the left and right, above all.

The purpose of those distorting ‘news’ stories might be a desire, on the part of both the Democratic Party aristocrats and the Republican Party aristocrats, to distract the public’s attention away from the far deeper understanding that drives the “narrative” that Hersh, in that clip, is describing: rot by the U.S. aristocracy, which controls both of America’s political Parties, to deceive the American public. The objective is to protect the aristocracy. That’s not publishable; it is American samizdat. Corruption rules America. The public do not. This fact is what Hersh is describing in his “narrative.”

But there is more: There wasn’t only the leak from the DNC computer (which Hersh was talking about); there was also the leak from John Podesta’s computer, and this was published by Wikileaks later.

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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of  They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010, and of  CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity.

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  • wehaveseenthisb4

    Most Dem true belivers will never believe this and I’m betting this will never surface in the LSM. It fits with the discredited and now retracted NYT story “17 intel agencies agree it was the Russians”, Crowdstrike’s backing off their initial attribution claims it was the Russians and probably most important of all it fits the initial narrative of Trump going easy on Russia and “costing” a lot of consternation among the US military and IC who profit from constant turmoil with Vlad. The Dems, naturally are pleased to pitch the story it wasn’t their miserable half-hearted attempt at governing for 8 years, the miserable candidate they nominated, the discovery they put their thumb on the scale against Sanders, but rather, it wasn’t their fault, it was the nefarious Rooskies. One last question. How could a Dem president allow a Dem candidate to lose a presidential election because of Russian meddling?

  • Brabantian

    As ‘nice’ as this story is in terms of spinning the pro-Trump narrative … We still have the fact that Seymour Hersh, like Eric Zuesse, is a limited-hang-out shill tied to & covering for Israel, both pumping some nice-sounding stuff at times to build up their alt-media credibility … whilst shilling for Israel & USA political gangsters on key points.

    Both Seymour Hersh & Eric Zuesse sell the fake US gov 9-11 myth that them bad Saudis did it, the ‘official story’ is essentially correct, & Israel was not involved.

    Seymour Hersh – card-carrying Zionist member of the CIA’s psy-op confusion brigade – also sold a greasy, absurd alt version of the ‘Osama bin Laden assassination in 2011’ fake story, Hersh claiming that Pakistani leaders helped to murder bin Laden & toss his body pieces from a helicopter, in total insult to their own Muslim religion.

    Whereas the actual evidence points to Osama bin Laden having died a decade earlier, shortly after the 9-11 attacks in which, in fact, the real bin Laden denied being involved. Neither Seymour Hersh nor Eric Zuesse, Israeli agents that they are, like to talk about Rita Katz of SITE with her fake ‘bin Laden videotapes’ she pumped all over the world.

    Older guy Seymour Hersh also long ago joined other fake limited-hang-out Israeli-pumping alleged ‘dissidents’ like Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn etc … in claiming that patsy Oswald did the 1963 JFK assassination as a ‘lone gunman’.

    • blue579

      Excellent deconstruction, thanks.

      Also, Wikileaks and Assange = intelligence operation.

      Assange to Belfast Telegraph July 19, 2010 : <b."I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by FALSE conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies…"

      http://911blogger.com/news/2010-07-22/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-annoyed-911-truth

      Assange asked CIA front Freedom House to sit on Wikileaks’ advisory board.

      Dr. Michel Chussodovsky: Who is Behind Wikileaks?
      http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-behind-wikileaks-2/22389

    • john

      Wow, bizarre that my response to this that I posted an hour ago has been removed. Anybody who how this works, did Zuesse remove my post or did it get reported by other users? Its amazing the censorship that goes on, I was on the ABC comments section yesterday trying to conversate with folks and explain the situation and I couldn’t keep up with being deleted repeatedly when I went beyond the official narrative.

      • eddysaxx

        Sieg Heil Mein Trumpf & all the assembly-line $Billionaire Ashke’nasty’s’
        …the NWO’s closing in inexorably with their ‘human man-trap’… herding us into cowed compliance …daily

      • cettel

        This is Eric Zuesse, and I have no power to remove any reader-comment. The only ones I’ve ever wished would be removed are the spam ones.

    • john

      Ok so I found my deleted comment in my disqus account and it said “detected as spam”. I’ll repost and see if it gets removed again.

      Thanks, we’ll work on getting this corrected.
      I agree with quiet a bit of what you just said, it seems that Hersh appears with stories at opportune times that tell a half truth. I do have respect for his work at times, but I thought his late in the game Osama story was silly, he must have read the reports from all over the world that Osama had passed years earlier. He seemed to be in shaky health even before 9/11 as was reported in multiple MSM news sites that he was undergoing kidney dialysis and then died in 2001, which was also reported through out the Muslim world. Hersh doesn’t even mention any of this in his article which essentially props up the “we got em” narrative to sacred so tools that still want to cling to the official story. Also if Hersh were a real reporter he would have skipped the meaningless Osama story and went right to the heart and weighed in on the 9/11 story. I haven’t hear anything from him on this, apparently the whole official story is just fine by him? I’ll search for his work on that in a moment.
      However, while it is likely that Rich executed, there is no proof as of yet, just a suspiscious murder of a crucial figure in the whole Russia hacked yarn. I do find it bizarre that Hersh wouldn’t at least say “maybe he was silenced, but maybe its just a random crime too, its a high crime area”. In any case it doesn’t make sense that Hersh would surface in this way essentially proving that Rich was indeed a leaker to Wikileaks of some capacity. This contradicts the whole Russia hacked the DNC. narrative that is essential to the sanctions and scapegoating of Russia right now. So what could be limited hangout here? Revealing that there were internal leakers from DNC to Wiki doesn’t seem like the direction they’d want to take this. Though they may be trying to cut their losses as more amore people wake up to the Rich /wiki situation they’ve now launched this whole new angle suggesting that it was all team Trump and Fox conspiring to plant some fake news. I was trying to explain to people on the ABC news comments section yesterday that the idea that wikileaks was leaked to by insiders like perhaps Eric Braverman or Seth Rich doesn’t start with Foxnews reports, but it seems most people already wrote off the whole thing as alt-right fake news planted by Trump’s team and just called me “conspiracy theorist” and the moderator removed my comments repeatedly. Many people said that Hersh has said “his comments were taken out of context and exaggerated” I asked people to go listen to the actual tape, as it’s very clear that he says he saw proof. In any case there’s no proof that was Rich murdered by DNC deep state people. I would think they wouldn’t have left him alive to be taken to the hospital, and I’d imagine they would have staged the robbery a little better, like actually took his property.
      As far as this limited hangout stuff, of course Hersh in league with Chompsky, Zinn, Goodman, but I never thought of Zuesse as being in this crowd. I do know he questions Israel’s involvement with 9/11, but does Zuesse actually say that the buildings fell from fires started by the hijacked planes and Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfawitz, Bremmer..etc weren’t involved? I’m curious to check what Zuesse has said on this now, that would be shocking.

    • john

      MODERATOR THIS COMMENT IS NOT SPAM STOP DELETING IT

      I agree with quiet a bit of what you just said, it seems that Hersh appears with stories at opportune times that tell a half truth. I do have respect for his work at times, but I thought his late in the game Osama story was silly, he must have read the reports from all over the world that Osama had passed years earlier. He seemed to be in shaky health even before 9/11 as was reported in multiple MSM news sites that he was undergoing kidney dialysis and then died in 2001, which was also reported through out the Muslim world. Hersh doesn’t even mention any of this in his article which essentially props up the “we got em” narrative to sacred so tools that still want to cling to the official story. Also if Hersh were a real reporter he would have skipped the meaningless Osama story and went right to the heart and weighed in on the 9/11 story. I haven’t hear anything from him on this, apparently the whole official story is just fine by him? I’ll search for his work on that in a moment.
      However, while it is likely that Rich executed, there is no proof as of yet, just a suspiscious murder of a crucial figure in the whole Russia hacked yarn. I do find it bizarre that Hersh wouldn’t at least say “maybe he was silenced, but maybe its just a random crime too, its a high crime area”. In any case it doesn’t make sense that Hersh would surface in this way essentially proving that Rich was indeed a leaker to Wikileaks of some capacity. This contradicts the whole Russia hacked the DNC. narrative that is essential to the sanctions and scapegoating of Russia right now. So what could be limited hangout here? Revealing that there were internal leakers from DNC to Wiki doesn’t seem like the direction they’d want to take this. Though they may be trying to cut their losses as more amore people wake up to the Rich /wiki situation they’ve now launched this whole new angle suggesting that it was all team Trump and Fox conspiring to plant some fake news. I was trying to explain to people on the ABC news comments section yesterday that the idea that wikileaks was leaked to by insiders like perhaps Eric Braverman or Seth Rich doesn’t start with Foxnews reports, but it seems most people already wrote off the whole thing as alt-right fake news planted by Trump’s team and just called me “conspiracy theorist” and the moderator removed my comments repeatedly. Many people said that Hersh has said “his comments were taken out of context and exaggerated” I asked people to go listen to the actual tape, as it’s very clear that he says he saw proof. In any case there’s no proof that was Rich murdered by DNC deep state people. I would think they wouldn’t have left him alive to be taken to the hospital, and I’d imagine they would have staged the robbery a little better, like actually took his property.
      As far as this limited hangout stuff, of course Hersh in league with Chompsky, Zinn, Goodman, but I never thought of Zuesse as being in this crowd. I do know he questions Israel’s involvement with 9/11, but does Zuesse actually say that the buildings fell from fires started by the hijacked planes and Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfawitz, Bremmer..etc weren’t involved? I’m curious to check what Zuesse has said on this now, that would be shocking.

    • john

      here is my removed comment again, 4th time keeps getting censored, its not spam, breaks no rules. says on Disqus:
      “2 days ago
      Detected as spam Thanks, we’ll work on getting this corrected.”
      My original comment which has been removed 4 times so far, by Eric or by Disqus? Why can’t I comment?

      I agree with quiet a bit of what you just said, it seems that Hersh appears with stories at opportune times that tell a half truth. I do have respect for his work at times, but I thought his late in the game Osama story was silly, he must have read the reports from all over the world that Osama had passed years earlier. He seemed to be in shaky health even before 9/11 as was reported in multiple MSM news sites that he was undergoing kidney dialysis and then died in 2001, which was also reported through out the Muslim world. Hersh doesn’t even mention any of this in his article which essentially props up the “we got em” narrative to sacred so tools that still want to cling to the official story. Also if Hersh were a real reporter he would have skipped the meaningless Osama story and went right to the heart and weighed in on the 9/11 story. I haven’t hear anything from him on this, apparently the whole official story is just fine by him? I’ll search for his work on that in a moment.
      However, while it is likely that Rich executed, there is no proof as of yet, just a suspiscious murder of a crucial figure in the whole Russia hacked yarn. I do find it bizarre that Hersh wouldn’t at least say “maybe he was silenced, but maybe its just a random crime too, its a high crime area”. In any case it doesn’t make sense that Hersh would surface in this way essentially proving that Rich was indeed a leaker to Wikileaks of some capacity. This contradicts the whole Russia hacked the DNC. narrative that is essential to the sanctions and scapegoating of Russia right now. So what could be limited hangout here? Revealing that there were internal leakers from DNC to Wiki doesn’t seem like the direction they’d want to take this. Though they may be trying to cut their losses as more amore people wake up to the Rich /wiki situation they’ve now launched this whole new angle suggesting that it was all team Trump and Fox conspiring to plant some fake news. I was trying to explain to people on the ABC news comments section yesterday that the idea that wikileaks was leaked to by insiders like perhaps Eric Braverman or Seth Rich doesn’t start with Foxnews reports, but it seems most people already wrote off the whole thing as alt-right fake news planted by Trump’s team and just called me “conspiracy theorist” and the moderator removed my comments repeatedly. Many people said that Hersh has said “his comments were taken out of context and exaggerated” I asked people to go listen to the actual tape, as it’s very clear that he says he saw proof. In any case there’s no proof that was Rich murdered by DNC deep state people. I would think they wouldn’t have left him alive to be taken to the hospital, and I’d imagine they would have staged the robbery a little better, like actually took his property.
      As far as this limited hangout stuff, of course Hersh in league with Chompsky, Zinn, Goodman, but I never thought of Zuesse as being in this crowd. I do know he questions Israel’s involvement with 9/11, but does Zuesse actually say that the buildings fell from fires started by the hijacked planes and Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfawitz, Bremmer..etc weren’t involved? I’m curious to check what Zuesse has said on this now, that would be shocking.

  • Blue

    Hersch IS a CIA plant. Ref: See Hersch’s examination of the JFK assassination. This is disinfo inside of disinfo.

    • blue579

      Absolutely, not long ago he attempted to float an alternative version of Bin Laden’s ‘capture’, despite the fact Bin Laden had died years earlier. He also pumped 9/11 as blow back instead of exposing 9/11 as a false flag attack.

  • artguerrilla

    @ brabs & blue & all botz starting with b –
    may I be the first to welcome our deep state botz, brabs and blues, thanks for your service, quislings ! ! !
    curious, which one is the lead bot, and which the sock puppet, I’m guessing brabs, amirite ? ? ?
    .
    ain’t technology wunnerful ? ? ? only in amerika can a singular traitor servile to Empire manage hundreds and thousands of botz echoing their propaganda ! ! ! Goebbels would be envious…
    .
    (and isn’t it interesting that this input box absolutely Capitalised Goebbels (there it is again!) without giving me a choice in the matter… just another teeny tiny piece of eee-vil)
    .
    to out the botz, here is your CAPTURE question:
    Assuming your singular analysis of hersh being a sea eye ehh stooge is correct, would you mind directing us to the NON-sea eye ehh stooges YOU USE as impeccable, unimpeachable, pure-as-the-driven-snow sources ? ? ?
    .
    congrats, brabs and blues, you have made the Peoples Insecurity Index, and will be logged accordingly…

    • eddysaxx

      TROLL ALERT!

      • blue579

        Weird too, he posted his comment 9 hours ago then goes back to it to change it, even though no person has replied to him except you now noticing his conniption. Does he sit there waiting for any passerby to trigger his cog dis several hours later so he can launch naked ad hominems?

        • eddysaxx

          Standing up for his specious principals… & then sitting back down on his own steaming stool (lol)

  • john

    Why are my comments removed from this site? So pathetic that you erase my comment just because you don’t agree with it. Seems like adults should be able to make up their own mind and be able to read ideas from other adults. Censorship is so lame. Its either Disqus or Eric.. either way Disqus is a controlled platform. I’ve had probably 10 comments erased by them on here and Abc news in the last couple days, none of them broke any rules

  • Richard Charnin

    The UPDATE is misleading. Hersh did not say that it was DEFINITELY a robbery. He THINKS it was. Big difference. He wrote: “The kid gets — I don’t think he was murdered [because of this] I don’t think he was murdered because of what he knew….”