Tic Toc Why The Clock Stops for Progressives if Trump is Dumped

Did progressives ever think their fortune was tied directly to Donald Trump? In the new game of American politics gone wild, this is exactly the case for the following reasons.

Let’s start with voter fraud. Was there voter fraud in this election or is this a case of “the Donald” hallucinating again? It was supposed to be rhetorical but I’m sensing the hesitation you feel answering it yourself.

Look at it from both perspectives. If there wasn’t voter fraud which is the Democratic Party position, then Bernie Sanders supporters were lied to, lied, and supported a loser candidate that whined throughout the primaries. Yep, that one hurts.

Over 200,000 people must have deserved to get kicked off the election rolls in New York to prove that point. In the Observer, Mark Sainato wrote a story Establishment Democrats order Sanders to fall in line and play nice. No fraud? No whining little man, get back in line and play nice.

According to the New York Times, “President Trump’s promise to investigate voter fraud has drawn predictable responses from Democrats and the media, who insist there is no such thing and have been fighting for years to prevent any inquiry into the matter. But an investigation in Mr. Trump’s hometown shows that the problem is real.”

It seems that progressives, especially the Berners, are presented with a conundrum, a riddle if you will. If they want candidates like Sanders in the future, they need to get behind an investigation into what everyone with a pulse knows is true, except party-line Democrats. If they don’t or won’t, the Party has spoken. No progressive candidate for you. Ever again, ad infinitum.

Should progressives support a real investigation into voter fraud, they are declaring war on their hob-nail compatriots, supporting Trump, and a return to the rule of law on a very divisive issue. Hence the conundrum.

If progressives are going to survive and stand up for civil rights and good government, they have to step out of the media feedback loop. Nationalist Democrats are using this to spoon-feed jackboot tactics to the public.

Colluding with Foreign Governments

That’s why I wholeheartedly agree with Billy “boy” Maher that colluding with foreign governments to influence the national election should be treason. Unfortunately, the facts don’t go in the direction he wants them to. When you look at the facts, collaboration to decide the results of the election is real, but it goes back to the Clinton camp starting in the primaries.

According to the Observer, “Yesterday, Politico reported that the Ukrainian Government worked to aid Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential elections.”

What’s to really love about that is I’ve been detailing this information for over 6 months. The Politico article came out a few days after I wrote the article about why Clinton needed to be indicted and questioned about the so-called Russian hacks and a few months earlier I detailed more about Ukrainian influence. When all the pertinent facts point to a party (outside the feedback loop), it should be investigated. I’m glad they read my stuff.

It seems long before they accused Russia’s Putin, Team Hillary’s ethnic outreach accused Team Sanders of hacking the DNC. This derailed the Sanders campaign from that point on. Sanders was left sounding the same way “the Donald” does today.

The Case of Stuttering Sanders

From Politico, “The Sanders campaign never ‘stole’ any voter file data; the Sanders campaign never ‘exported’ any unauthorized voter file data; and the Sanders campaign certainly never had access to the Clinton campaign’s ‘strategic road map,’ the Sanders campaign said.”

You can almost picture Sanders drooling and farting making a statement that way. Did he? Of course not. Welcome to the feedback loop that said Team Hillary deserved to win.

According to nationalist Democrats, Sanders was part of the effort to derail Hillary for the Russians. What is this Russian effort that tried to influence the election? Who’s involved? Does Putin pay them? A joke going around when Jen Psaki announced her pregnancy was “Oh great, are they going to blame this on Putin or all of Russia?”

Team Clinton Plans to Destroy Alt Media

Two years ago I started breaking a story that all of a sudden became popular early in the winter of 2016 with the Washington Post’s introduction of propornot which listed news websites that publishedmisleading articles online with the goal of punishing Democrat Hillary Clinton, helping Republican Donald Trump and undermining faith in American democracy.” 

What are these “misleading articles?” I wrote the first article that covered this as part of a series. I started by defining what they meant by pro-Russian propaganda. I did this by looking at which websites, journalists, politicians like Sanders, and articles they were complaining about.

If you are a journalist writing about or a person concerned about issues like Free Speech, read or write in alternative media or news, Occupy movement, Ferguson, Gaza, Ukraine, Russia, police brutality, US interventionism, fair government, homelessness, keeping the government accountable, representative government, government intrusions like the NSA is doing, or you are liberal, progressive, libertarian, conservative, separation of church and state, religion, …”

To question US policy (Obama) on anything in that first paragraph makes your article Russian propaganda. The first “Russian propagandists and publications” were questioning Obama’s Syrian war narrative, government intrusion like the NSA, and Ferguson. It had nothing to do with Russia.

Two years ago, I told various media outlets that they were on the list to be dealt with up to and including hacking. This was in spite of the fact that most weren’t particularly involved with or cared about Russian issues. In the run-up to the election I notified news portals and websites that after a Clinton win, they were going to be shut down by these parties. If you know how to research it, these people speak for themselves clearly. There was no room for an alternative media that supported Sanders and didn’t support Democratic foreign policy. That’s right baby, bye-bye Berners.

Today, the same group that wanted to take away free speech from progressives, libertarians, centrists, and conservatives are plying that strategy on both Trump and honest media outlets.  Make no doubt about it, this is being organized, directed, and financed by groups associated with Team Clinton’s ethnic/ emigre outreach. The same group brought media attention to the democratic revolution in Ukraine that brought the OUNb integral nationalists to power are the same people behind the media blitz and unfocused protests in the USA today.

These very same groups that are fueling rampant nationalist thought in the Democratic party and among the American populace. They are the same groups that want to destroy any hope of moderation in American politics. And you are buying into it, hook, line, and sinker.

Are Rogue Spies Heroes?

When we look at the spy coup going on against Trump, who the hell else would say this was a good thing? Do progressive, libertarian, centrist, or conservative news and websites want to be next? It’s coming unless it’s stopped and it’s not Trump doing it.

However, some of America’s spies are deciding that that’s not enough. For reasons of misguided righteousness or partisan hatred, they’ve taken it upon themselves to be judge, jury, and executioner. They have prosecuted their case in the court of public opinion, with likeminded media outlets such as CNNThe New York Times, and the Washington Post serving as court stenographers.

Elected by no one, responsible only to each other, these spies have determined that Trump is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Days ago, they delivered their verdict. According to one intelligence official, the president “will die in jail.”

John Schindler, the intel officer in question, is a close associate of Aaron Weisburd. Weisburd and Schindler are the originators of the Russian election influence meme. Weisburd is also the originator of the propornot list. Yes, that’s the guy. Both work for the Clinton ethnics/emigres.

Damn Dirty Nationalist

Has nationalist hatred so permeated society that even an open coup involving intelligence groups is tolerated? How you feel about that question is a litmus test on your view of nationalist fascism or American democracy. Read the following carefully. Is this Trump’s reaction to criticism? Are these pompous statements what you would expect from someone leaning toward a dictatorship?

“Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me-and I welcome their hatred.

I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master.”

There is a new generation of the same parties that want the same policies today as their forebears did in 1932. There are Ukrainian nationalists, some Democrats, and some Republicans. In 1932 we were in the Great Depression. The real unemployed figures then are only rivaled by the unemployment today.

 Democratic Party leaders saw Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich as a model and so did most of Europe. America and the world looked up to Adolf Hitler. It took one of the greatest Democratic presidents in US history to stand up to this and stop it cold. The quote above was from FDR. Franklin Roosevelt was the most hated president elect ever at that point.

Democrats with bi-partisan support from some Republicans then tried to work a sitting coup on FDR after the assassination attempt by the OUNb Ukrainians failed. Killing FDR was to facilitate the original coup plan. Some Democrats and some Republicans wanted to side with Adolf Hitler going into WWII.

Media then did what media is doing now. They tried FDR in the press and convicted him. And yes, Republican McCarthyism was a direct outgrowth of this. McCarthy got the “White Book” nationalist/fascist investigations closed and opened the Red Book and Red Scare.

Roosevelt set about Constitutionally questionable reforms that put America back to work. In the 1936 election FDR won in an unprecedented landslide. He took 46 states and more than 60% of the popular vote.

To make the New Deal work Roosevelt worked with Progressive Republicans. It was a bi-partisan effort and would have failed otherwise. To put America back to work, progressives had to be involved from all sides. Otherwise, America and Axis Germany would have been partnered.

What Is Progressive?

According to Roosevelt, “The true conservative seeks to protect the system of private property and free enterprise by correcting such injustices and inequalities as arise from it. The most serious threat to our institutions comes from those who refuse to face the need for change. Liberalism becomes the protection for the far-sighted conservative.”

Am I proclaiming  Donald Trump is the new FDR? No. What I’m saying is that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was not FDR when he was elected either. He had to become that great leader in short order just to survive. It was the progressive bipartisan effort that put the country first and politics second that made FDR who he was.

Progressives SHOULD NOT hop on the Trump party bus. They need to provide a real oppositional viewpoint so a balance in government can be maintained and rights are protected. Jumping in with nationalist Democrats will also take progressives out of position to do that.

Reforms that are put forward by the Trump administration need progressive support. If this president is going to create jobs, will political pride get in the way of putting as many of 94 million fellow Americans back to work as possible?

If Trump attempts real government reforms like limiting lobbyists ability to influence elections, Federal employees becoming lobbyists, or even pushing term limits, is it supportable?

These are the right questions. In the last eight years America has gone through a policy of regression that led to where we are today politically. If reforms aren’t acted on and Trump is dumped or stopped short on reforms, the people that want to get rid of him already told progressives to get to the back of the bus.

Team Clinton and the Democratic Party have already made the moves to shut down all opposing media. To ignore this one fact is to agree with repression.

Democratic hob-nailers are trying to force a circling of the wagons regardless of cost to domestic policy, foreign policy, and respect for the office of the presidency. Through media they are inculcating hard-core nationalism that hasn’t been seen in America since the 1930’s.

This is at a time when progressives need to counter any effect Bannon’s infatuation with Julius Evola has on government and society. You can’t fight nationalism with nationalism. The end result is an even harder nationalism. I’m starting to sound like media made Bernie out to be.

There are two ways to destroy this cancerous outbreak in our society. First, like Roosevelt, you rebuild the economy. Nationalism thrives when enough people feel disaffected and discarded. It wanes quickly when people see stability and feel growth in the economy because of jobs.

Second, and just as important is replacing ideology with idealism. JFK took our country quietly through a second great nationalist awakening sparked by…the very same people and media.

Those That Didn’t Vote For Hitler Get a 2nd Chance To

A commonly held saying is that those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it. I wrote this background in 2014 for today because of the trends I saw happening. That’s why it’s important. You, without meaning to on the other hand, are repeating the trends and the history. Just an overview of common media headlines start showing distinct parallels to today.

In the 1930’s FDR was called a fascist, a communist, a bigot, a racist, a supporter of the KKK, and an anti-Semite. He was called treasonous. This is what media played him out to be.

Gold medal winner Jessie Owens stated that Hitler was less of a racist than FDR. “Hitler didn’t snub me–it was [Roosevelt] who snubbed me. The president didn’t even send me a telegram.”

In Roosevelt’s day, the New York Times led the way with a whopping 35 headlines favoring the people that were trying to commit a nationalist fascist coup between 1934-1936. Time Magazine and all Luce publications followed suit. All Hearst publications soon followed.

Today we have the same media push by a minority of people that are herding a larger majority of party members into that mentality.

Former Obama Offcial Calls For ‘Military Coup’ Against Trump!

Left-Wing Journalist: Violence Against “Racists” To Stop Trump Should Be Tolerated

Clinton Partisans Exploit Russia to Renew Call for Clinton Presidency

Why Won’t Democrats Kick Trump While He’s Down?

“Barely four weeks in office and the president has his first scandal. Flynngate has everything a president doesn’t want: a top national security official accused of treasonishness, messy investigations afoot, reinvigorated enemy journalists smelling blood.”

Does it matter that this man was a career officer serving multiple administrations just so long as Democrats can springboard his name and honor into impeachment hearings based on no evidence? FBI clears Michael Flynn in probe linking him to Russia

Democrats Invoke 25th Amendment, Question Trump’s Mental Health

All of this has been in play since the day after the election. Andrea Chalupa, sister of Democratic operative Alexandra Chalupa (OUNb nationalist outreach) is one of the organizers of the push to do this. If you go back this timeline, it’s obvious.

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Now we have the source for Trump-Russia problems admitting what I have been writing about her as an originator of Trump’s Russia accusations in media and government. Look again at her last response. A member of the Intelligence Community is briefing OUNb Ukrainian-American nationalists but they don’t want to brief the president?

Now we have another possible INTEL LEAK to deal with.

If you look up the Trump syphilis story, the New Republic author shares something in common with Andrea Chalupa. That’s an OUNb heritage. Steven Beutler is from a Chicagoland nationalist family.

This doesn’t sound like hobnail booted nationalism. It meets every definition, regardless of intent. Absolute hatred inculcated by the media can only serve one purpose. It is to overthrow a sitting president that HAS NOT committed an impeachable offense. Not yet.

When Legitimacy is Illegitimate

But think about this. In March 2014, Obama signed an executive order that targeted journalists who challenged the legitimacy of the Kiev coup and the current borders of Ukraine.
Until that time, I was the only American in Donbass writing about the coup seriously. This made me and anyone that followed acceptable targets in the war zone and a target for the SBU. Obama followed up on this and tried to make journalists legitimate targets as a matter of military policy. Keep in mind, at the time other journalists speaking up about Ukraine were safely in the US.
How serious is this? Obama “droned” 4 Americans without even a legitimate accusation, never mind a trial during his 8 years.

For reporting on a serious event as it was unfolding, I became a potential target for Obama? You read about this kind of thing in grade B novels. Try living with that one yourself. Where were you, busy eating pizza?

It never crossed my mind to question whether or not Obama was a legitimate president. He was, though he’s shown he had a lot less respect for the office than I have. Based on his illegal policy, I stated a few times this was an impeachable offense. Let’s face it, if the president can order a citizen killed or authorize it extra-judicially, we have problems.

When No One Knows Why They are There, Protest Anyway!

Why are the protests unfocused? The nationalist Democrats know that focusing on a real issue will kill the coup and resultant civil war they are trying to build momentum for. You read right, insurrection, not bettering America, civil rights, or women’s rights. By keeping it unfocused and calling on all groups to participate, a rising tide lifts all boats strategy comes into play. The problem is once their boat is lifted, yours is discarded.

But today, instead of taking the outrage and doing something constructive like reworking the ERA amendment (Equal Rights Amendment), women are taking a day off. A day without women protest is coming up on the unfocused protest calendar. And once again it will result in someone hijacking your protest.

Trump’s Muslim ban is the perfect example of this. If you believe the nationalist Democrats, nationalist Republicans, and the media, then it is a Muslim ban. But extreme vetting of refugees from anarchic areas of war-torn countries with no government and lots of terrorists is something of a no-brainer to support.

Whose boat is being lifted by the protests, Muslims? No, in reality, the boats getting lifted are filled with people that do support ISIS, genocide, war criminals, and al Qaeda.

Let’s take this to tectonic proportions. Agree with one or the other, it’s your choice. I hope you take the time to read the argument both of these articles make in support of Muslims post-election. Actually, not Muslims, the boat being lifted is spelled out clearly. The problem addressed is labeling the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists and vetting related groups to keep them out of the country.

Lana Safah, a spokeswoman for the Muslim American Society, another high-profile Muslim advocacy group, told Huffington Post that her group has “no affiliation with any foreign or international organization.” Yet, she said, “In the Trump era, and in the most Islamophobic atmosphere the American Muslim community has ever experienced, it seems we should expect the unexpected, such as this unprecedented designation, which no former administration has made. It would cripple the operations of any Muslim organizations linked, however circumstantially, to the Muslim Brotherhood.

“Supporters of the designation have wielded it most frequently against advocacy groups such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which regularly files lawsuits on behalf of Muslims over alleged discrimination, well as against charities. They have also used it to attack Democratic members of Congress, Muslim government officials, longtime Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin and the Gold Star father Khizr Khan, who criticized Trump at the Democratic National Convention in the summer.”

According to Stephen Piggott of the SLPC, the White House is reportedly weighing options to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization, according to several news outlets. Such a move would amount to a powerful policy win for America’s antiMuslim movement, whose leaders have worked tirelessly to smear American Muslim civil rights organizations, in particular the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT), by calling them “fronts” for the Brotherhood.

Without the same outraged protests or condemnatory press conferences inspired by Trump’s travel ban targeting visitors and dual citizens from seven Muslim-majority countries, the lesser-known effort is aimed at crushing robust Muslim civil society organizing in the United States, using the framework of the war on terror. The initiative aims to declare the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization, a designation that in practice, is likely to provide a vehicle for a network of anti-Muslim crusaders to hound unaffiliated, mainstream Muslim organizations and  potentially criminalize their leadership, the AlterNet said adding:”

The problem with both is simple. To support Muslims you must support the Muslim Brotherhood and the groups tied to it that have made inroads throughout the US government. The Muslim Brotherhood and the Gulenites are not Muslim groups. They are nationalist fascist groups that no longer carry the proper designation. Instead of Islamic, Oriental Prometheans would be better. But, who the hell is going to use that?

The argument in both articles is the argument used by the mainstream today. If you support Syrian moderates, you don’t vet Syrian refugees. But according to Foreign Policy ” And there’s one anti-Assad group that is largely responsible for this dismal state of affairs: Syria’s Muslim Brotherhood. Throughout the Syrian uprising, I have had discussions with opposition figures, activists, and foreign diplomats about how the Brotherhood has built influence within the emerging opposition forces. It has been a dizzying rise for the Islamist movement. Additionally, some Brotherhood-affiliated figures denied they were part of the group and joined the SNC (Syrian National Council) as “independents.” These include Nahas, the London-based director of the Levant Center; Louay Safi, a Syrian-American fellow at Georgetown University and former chairman of the Syrian American Council (SAC); and Najib Ghadbian, a political science professor who also works at the SAC.”

And IB Times “Islamic State, or Daesh, is not a new phenomenon. It is, like Al Qaeda, an ideological offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. The leader of Daesh himself was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. The father of global jihad and Osama bin Laden’s teacher, Abdullah Azzam started his terrorist career within the ranks of the Muslim Brotherhood. Al-Qaeda’s current leader Ayman al-Zawahiri was also a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. The modern ideological root of Islamist terrorism is the Muslim Brotherhood. The battle for world peace starts by defeating the Muslim versions of National Socialism. Europe has a large responsibility to help, but the primary responsibility lies with the Arabs.”

Nationalist Democrats want to tie innocent Muslims in America and abroad at the hip with the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, al Qaeda, and terrorism. Instead of telling the truth and separating religious Muslims from nationalist political fanatics, they are driving Muslim Americans into their folds for protection. And no, they really didn’t need to help the likes of Bridgette Gabriel did they?

Muslims need Americans to stand shoulder to shoulder with them. Not with the people killing so many of them in countries across the Middle East and Africa. Is the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization?

The hate or rage progressives feel is mostly media driven. Every person at one time or another experiences this. Hate is the driver of nationalist ideology and why it can never be confused with patriotism. Need I remind you that Clinton’s most credible promise was war.

For progressives, centrists, libertarians, and conservatives the stakes are high. There are 3 groups of nationalists at the table today dominating the conversation. Progressives on all fronts need to be the moderating force. Donald Trump promised to drain the swamp. Make him do it. But you can’t set traps while it’s going on.

Progressives in all political labels need to keep a credible position to put the brakes on and still get as many reforms on the table as possible.

If that’s not possible, it’s time to get fitted for hob-nails. The country needed us, but we were too busy to bother. Tic Toc, that’s when the clock stops.

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  • Marko

    Yes , it was childish and stupid when the Republicans declared , shortly after the 2008 election , that they hoped Obama would be a failure as President , and that they would oppose him at every step. It’s just as dumb for the Dems to do the same now. If Trump does something good , they should be effusive in their praise. Give him a milk bone and rub his belly. Reward him when he’s good , scold him when he’s bad.

    I had hoped Trump might take a comprehensive look at the electoral system , given the way he railed against the ” rigged system ” , how Sanders got cheated , etc. , over the course of the campaign. Now , I don’t see much chance of that happening. When he talks ” voter fraud ” , he’s only talking about repeat voting , non-citizens and dead people voting , and such – no mention whatsoever of a concern about voter roll purging and other means of voter suppression.

    Personally , Trump may not be extremely partisan , but I get the feeling , because of the influence of those around him , that he’ll end up governing as such , and that he won’t cut the Dems an inch of slack , on electoral reform or anything else , ever.

    Still , I’d stock up on the milk bones , just in case.

    • christine

      Yeah- but the republicans never ‘declared’ that they hoped Obama would be a failure as pres. Please cite examples, quotes etc. There was one person who said that, and he was excoriated by everyone on both sides and at length. And in his own defense he explained that he did not support Obama’s agenda in any way, thought it destructive and antithetical to the American project, and hoped it would fail.
      I would add that Obama didn’t fail- but succeeded brilliantly in changing the very idea of America. A fundamental transformation on a massive level! Mission accomplished. I, too, wish he hadn’t. The America we are left with is a very scary place. I feel like I no longer belong here. The cultural deterioration that we’ve seen before our very eyes at full speed ahead the last 8 years is heartbreaking. A few stats:
      * CDC says 20M new STD cases ea yr costing 16B per yr.
      * 20% of pregnancies are aborted
      * 700K abortions 2013. 1M av per yr since RoevWade 1973
      * 50K drug overdose deaths, 20K Alcoholic liver disease, 30K Alcohol induced deaths (2014)
      * 43K suicides 2014, highest level in 30 yrs. 16K hoicides 2014
      These are all signs of a society in moral collapse. We have moral relativism now and no objective truth. And no God but the state. Cultural Marxism has a utilitarian view of the human person. The human family is undermined. Perversions are mainstreamed. Biological realities are denied.
      Welcome to the new world order, comrade!

  • Josh Stern

    What should we do about unrelated allegations of unrelated criminal wrongdoing and fraud? Investigate them independently??? Perceived problem is that the laws and the abstract power to investigate have lost a lot of independent meaning. Instead we have a state of perpetual warfare between corrupt groups of political oligarchs who do little, once elected, to advance the interests of constituents or even pursue the vague ideas they waved their arms about on the campaign trail. So what to do? …I still say that independent allegations can be investigated independently. Old fashioned radicalism…

  • awb22

    Only more proof the Democrat political machine is one side of a two sided coin. Repubs saw the same treatment of Paul during the 2012 presidential campaign, yet it paved the way for a Trump candidacy. Actually, Trump and Sanders have more in common than most would admit. Had they run on a split ticket, there’s no question it would have been an unprecedented landslide, and why not give the voters what they want? The enemy is the status quo, and still is. The Muslim question is global. Everywhere Muslims have been allowed to settle they cause problems. We were on the wrong side of Albright’s war in Bosnia. Europe is finding out the hard way you can’t allow immigration of those who are not ready, willing, and able to work. These countries don’t have enough work for their own people, much less an immigrant population. The future is automation, not breeding. That is feudalistic thinking, and the EU sees themselves as the successor to the throne, not so. Is Europe lost, maybe, because they don’t have the constitutional protection afforded Americans of gun ownership. That’s also why the US will remain free.

    Who cares about Democrats or Republicans? They’ve lost touch with their constituents on both sides.

    I’ll run as a Tea Party independent for US Congress in 2 years. That will give them enough time to get with the program, or not, and the American people enough time to decide whom they support.

  • Kansas_Voter

    This is slightly off-topic, but is there a list of the people who have been deported since Trump’s inauguration? It would be interesting to see how many of them were using fake SSN’s and other paperwork, and if they were, if they were registered voters.

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  • Guy Smith1

    Andrea Chalupa seems to be quite an expert on STD. I wonder if it is from personal experience.