How To INSTANTLY Tell If Russia Hacked the Election

Anonymous CIA officials claim that Russia hacked the U.S. election by accessing emails from top Democratic officials and then leaking them to Wikileaks.

But the Washington Post notes:

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) voiced doubts about the veracity of the intelligence, according to officials present.

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A senior U.S. official said there were minor disagreements among intelligence officials about the agency’s assessment, in part because some questions remain unanswered.

For example, intelligence agencies do not have specific intelligence showing officials in the Kremlin “directing” the identified individuals to pass the Democratic emails to WikiLeaks ….

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Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has said in a television interview that the “Russian government is not the source.” [The former intelligence analyst, British Ambassador to Uzbekistan, and chancellor of the University of Dundee (Craig Murray) – who is close friends with Wikileaks’ Assange – said he knows with 100% certainty that the Russians aren’t behind the leaks.]

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“I’ll be the first one to come out and point at Russia if there’s clear evidence, but there is no clear evidence — even now,” said Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and a member of the Trump transition team. “There’s a lot of innuendo, lots of circumstantial evidence, that’s it.”


Indeed, some cybersecurity consultants claim that it’s impossible to ever know for sure who is behind hacks of this nature.

But that’s wrong …

In reality, it would be child’s play to determine whether or not the Russians really hacked the Dem emails and shared them with Wikileaks.

Specifically, Edward Snowden says the NSA could easily determine who hacked the Democratic National Committee’s emails:

But don’t trust Snowden …

The NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, who served as the senior technical director within the agency, who managed six thousand NSA employees, the 36-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency and the NSA’s best-ever analyst and code-breaker, who mapped out the Soviet command-and-control structure before anyone else knew how, and so predicted Soviet invasions before they happened (“in the 1970s, he decrypted the Soviet Union’s command system, which provided the US and its allies with real-time surveillance of all Soviet troop movements and Russian atomic weapons”) – confirmed to Washington’s Blog that the NSA would definitely know who the hacker was.

Binney told Washington’s Blog in July:

Snowden is right and the MSM is clueless.

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Do they have evidence that the Russians downloaded and later forwarded those emails to wikileaks? Seems to me that they need to answer those questions to be sure that their assertion is correct.

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You can tell from the network log who is going into a site.  I used that on networks that I had.  I looked to see who came into my LAN, where they went, how long they stayed and what they did while in my network.

Further, if you needed to, you could trace back approaches through other servers etc. Trace Route and Trace Watch are good examples of monitoring software that help do these things.  Others of course exist … probably the best are in NSA/GCHQ and the other Five Eyes countries.  But, these countries have no monopoly on smart people that could do similar detection software.

In October, Binney told us:

If the idiots in the intelligence community expect us to believe them after all the crap they have told us (like WMD’s in Iraq and “no we don’t collect data on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans”) then they need to give clear proof of what they say. So far, they have failed to prove anything.

Which suggests they don’t have proof and just want to war monger the US public into a second cold war with the Russians.

After all, there’s lots and lots of money in that for the military-industrial-intelligence-governmental complex of incestuous relationships.

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If you recall, a few years ago they pointed to a specific building in China that was where hacks on the US were originating. So, let’s see the same from the Russians. They don’t have it. That’s why they don’t show it. They want to swindle us again and again and again. You can not trust these intelligence agencies period.

That same month, Binney told Newsweek:

U.S. officials “know how many people [beyond the Russians] could have done this but they aren’t telling us anything. All they’re doing is promoting another cold war.”

Binney … compared allegations about Russian hacks to previous U.S. fabrications of intelligence to justify the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the bombing of North Vietnam in 1964.

“This is a big mistake, another WMD or Tonkin Gulf affair that’s being created until they have absolute proof” of Russian complicity in the DNC hacks, he charged during a Newsweek interview. He noted that after the Kremlin denied complicity in the downing of a Korean Airlines flight in 1983, the U.S. “exposed the conversations where [Russian pilots] were ordered to shoot it down.” Obama officials “have the evidence now” of who hacked the DNC, he charged. “So let’s see it, guys.“

Last month, Binney explained:

If it were the Russians, NSA would have a trace route to them and not equivocate on who did it.  It’s like using “Trace Route” to map the path of all the packets on the network.  In the program Treasuremap NSA has hundreds of trace route programs embedded in switches in Europe and hundreds more around the world.  So, this set-up should have detected where the packets went and when they went there.

In other words, there’s no need to speculate on whether the Russians were the hackers.  The NSA could easily determine who was behind the hacks.

Of course, in an era where challenging officials to provide evidence may get one labeled as a Russian propagandist, the question is how many people will stand up for the all-American value of questioning the proclamations of those in power:

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  • slorter

    The interview between Tucker and Schiff shows how ludicrous the whole argument is turning out to be!

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  • justquitnow

    They hacked the RNC as well, but didn’t release anything. You guys are so concerned with exposing the lies of our leaders that you’re forgetting we have enemies that would love to see Trump President.

    • Tannenhouser

      They did? Do you work for Obama? I mean where’s proof of such? Or are blanket accusations that fit your bias enough for you? I think you should take the advice in your moniker, and “justquitnow”

      • justquitnow

        Well fuck you very much. Don’t bother to go look up anything yourself ya smug shit eating f*ck.

    • Silverado

      So our enemies are smarter than all the crooked Hillary supporters and voters put together because they’d like to see Trump as President? All I know is that IF they’re saying it was the Russians doing the hacking I’m inclined to not believe them, think it was someone else and think it was really closer to home. Much closer to home. Maybe even the NSA themselves?? Somebody near Langley VA or is it Ft Meade Maryland or is this mischief from elsewhere? The longer it takes for us to find out the truth the more suspect we all should be that our own intelligence agencies are the ones most likely behind this. Trump is right about getting his people in there for control of these…what might be rogue US agencies up to their necks in nothing good, especially for our own country.

      • Mike333

        Crooked in what way? For running a private email server?
        Or, crooked like Trump putting into power Goldman Sachs appointee’s.

        • James Brown

          Yes the very fact that hillary set up a private email system/server was a felony. Period. There is no disputing that fact regardless of whether she gets prosecuted or not. Trump is breaking no law by appointing the most competent people he can find regardless of where they’ve worked. You seem to have a real problem distinguishing between illegal activity and legal Constitutional activities. But of course that is to be expected considering the typical lack of honesty and integrity shown by the average progressive/democrat.

          • Mike333

            It’s a “felony” on Fox News, and nowhere else.

      • justquitnow

        you too….eat some shit. Better now than later….

        • Silverado

          Is that all you have you pro-war neocon supporting radical left wing idiotic troll??

          • justquitnow

            neocon radical left wing? You don’t even know what or who to be outraged about. Eat some shit idiot.

    • Carl_Herman

      Wow. So let’s start:
      1. You offer zero evidence to support your claim that “they” hacked the RNC.
      2. You offer zero refutation of the article’s factual claims; just ignoring the content.
      3. Uh, if the lies we expose are the most massive crimes imaginable, what, that somehow is just worthy of dismissing to you?
      4. More unsubstantiated claims of some “enemy” who wants what exactly in your worldview?

      You should apply to work for corporate media “fake news.” You have what they look for.

      • justquitnow

        Just eat shit and die Carl…

    • Liberty4ev

      In interviews, Assange said that the leaks were from insiders in the DNC. He even implied that Seth Rich might have been a source, his point being that people take great risks to get the information out.

      Assange also said that he didn’t leak anything on the repubs or Trump because he didn’t have anything.

      • justquitnow

        basically you believe what you want…I just hope you smug f*cks get along well in Trump’s America.

    • PointBlankZA

      The RNC was not hacked. The rest of your story falls apart just on the point I made at the beginning.

    • James Brown

      Julian Assange did an interview a couple of months ago and was asked why no RNC emails had been hacked/leaked. He said then that he had received RNC emails but he could find no dirty tricks no illegalities and no collusion with the press, so he decided there was no value in releasing them.

      • justquitnow

        That’s not what wikileaks does. He didn’t curate the DNC emails…he dumped them. He didn’t dump the RNC emails because he was trying to destroy Hillary and kiss Russian and Trump ass.

  • UnderTheBedMonster

    How to instantly tell? Simple…..Hill would have gotten 3 votes instead of the millions of votes she got and Donald would have won with 99%!!!! Gosh how stupid do these idiots think America is….apparently they think we are numbskulls like they are!!!

  • hvaiallverden

    Just an friendly warning.

    The best tools, are illusions, splendid tools, bendable, twist-able, tie an knot with it and its still an ilution, and illusions are seeded by them selfs, once seeded it can grow branches independently of eatch others, but still grounded by the source ilution, and ilutions are also easy to manipulate.
    Never forget that.

    peace

  • Mike333

    Sorry, did your tech learning stop 15 years ago?
    Did you forget about the TOR network? Did you forget about what a “Proxy” is?
    Do you think the Russians originated their attacks “in Russia”?

    • tom

      Or that the Americans would originate their attacks in the USA?

      • Mike333

        Or, that Hillary Clinton would attack herself so she’d lose.
        ( Retard John Bolton — False Flag )
        This is what you’ve got for the brain power of the right?

        Seriously, now that the Repub party has won, your FIRST Priority should be an APOLLO Program to Stop Alzheimers.

        • Guest

          https://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/

          you do realize the USG basically developed TOR? and proxies aren’t magic. especially if you’re an intelligence agency and can easily find out the owner of a proxy and follow it back to the source.

  • anon

    The Attempted Clinton-CIA Coup Against Donald Trump
    http://sgtreport.com/2016/12/the-attempted-clinton-cia-coup-against-donald-trump/

    Read the comments. Too long/lengthy to post it here.

  • Red Scare 2.0

    The same intelligence agencies that let the entire federal personnel database, including social security numbers, be hacked are more concerned about finding the leaks of Clinton crimes. Interesting.

    Then on top of that, to deploy their media resources in a laughable attempt to clean up an even bigger Clinton sex scandal, possibly involving children, highlights the seriousness the true background crimes.

    Losing a major proxy army war in Syria and its failed media assisted multi genocide.

    All those NOVA condos and McMansions provide pale shelter at best it seems.

    Real time lesson Jim Jones style enforced loyalty on the part of the media governmental entity.

    • Feisty Hayseed

      Yep! Our Federal Government was SO INCOMPETENT they let the Crown Jewels of Federal Information be exfiltrated to (China?). All the Personally Identifiable Information (PII) of Millions of Government employees and Government contractors. All the personal / private information of everybody who applied for any kind of Government Security Clearance was spirited away to who knows where!

  • Liberty4ev

    “After all, there’s lots and lots of money in that for the military-industrial-intelligence-governmental complex of incestuous relationships.”

    This is the issue. A LOT of people stand to lose a LOT of $$ if Trump follows through on his non-intervention/non-policeman of the world foreign policy. This is the warmongers/NWO/globalists playbook.

    • YankyPanky

      LMAO sure Hillary wasted 1.2 billion dollars just to lose to Trump. It’s just the beginning lmao. I can’t wait.

  • FUqer

    But yet the DHS uses the excuse when they just caught hacking into Georgia’s voter database, that it could of been someone who was cloaking a DHS ip# or just a rogue employee.

    But yet, they said there was no evidence that at least 5 foreign Countries didn’t hack Clinton’s private email server, but yet were supposed to believe un-named sources with no actual evidence being presented.

    This is Cultural Marxism 101, DoubleThink, Orwellian Think, News Speak, fake news BS.

    If Putin wanted to influence the elections, he would have just donated to the Clinton Foundation.

  • YankyPanky

    The EU is the new Nazi Regime.

  • Varyags Of Miklagaard

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  • DJohn1

    IF you lie long enough, people will start to believe what you say. (Indirect quote from Adolph Hitler)
    Maybe the time is right to expose these agencies for what they really are.
    The commander in chief(Obama) gives them their orders, they are not independent.
    Seems like they just did what Obama wanted them to do. That is the appearance of things. It is in that grey area where they are interfering with politics.
    No way could election fraud be anything but Democrats well-meaning doing their fraud thing in places like Detroit. The numbers in Detroit do not begin to add up to a valid vote.
    It is time to clean up our act when it comes to bad election results and tallies that do not add up in a good number of places around the country controlled by Democrats.
    No place is completely free of fraud.
    I suggest that a valid driver’s license give the person’s citizenship qualifications and that be used as a valid ID for voting. Otherwise the entire thing is smelly mess of fraud. And the chief benefactors of this fraud is who?
    With a Republican Congress and a Republican President, maybe it is time to clean everyone’s act up when it comes to voting. This is not the first time that an overwhelming number of people did not vote as predicted. There are any number of times when the popular choice was not the real popular choice of the people and this is one of them.
    I recently renewed my license in August. In an almost microscopic icon it says I am a valid Veteran.
    I am proud to be an American Citizen and I earned that privilege. I would like that icon to be visible to anyone that checks my license. I would like every citizen to be proud that he or she is a citizen of this country and I would like that on everyone’s license and I want their draft status on there as well.
    I do not want a microscopic icon. I want one people can see.
    I also want a universal id system built into the state driver’s licenses that makes it easy to check their status as citizens. Then maybe the frauds will be easy to keep track of and throw these bums out.
    I want a lot of things. Legitimate elections being one of them.
    I want the cartel that controls the media broken up.
    That means using Sherman Antitrust type legislation so that all the media is more independent from the government.
    I want a complete and absolute pardon for those that have sacrificed their liberty for a free press.
    To me they are heroes. Not because they broke the classification laws but that they exposed those laws for what they are. The legitimate use of classification laws is not to hide from the public what you have criminally done. And that is why those laws are bad for our country.
    There was a time in this country when a free press meant you couldn’t hide behind classification laws.
    There was a time when people doing bad things were exposed by the press.
    Not any more. Between the lawyers and the politicians that group is almost extinct.
    There has to be a balance somewhere. There are legitimate things that are classified to protect us.
    But a secret only remains a secret for so long before it becomes exposed to the public. That is in the nature of things and nature rules.
    The problem is that we have a system built on corrupt officials and they no way want their crimes exposed to the public. The recount backfired big time on the Democrats in charge of polls in places like Illinois and Detroit, Michigan. Fraud was rampant on one side of this election and it wasn’t Republicans doing the fraud.
    The silent majority of people in this country apparently elected Donald Trump president. What did the Democrats have to lose. The answer is: EVERYTHING.

  • Marshalldoc

    ‘Adversarial’ so-called ‘interviews’ have been entirely useless since the Gore Vidal – Wm. Buckley exchanges. Two people overtalking each other absent impartial fact checking or unequivocal and agreed-upon facts. No more informative than watching the neighbors argue.

  • DarthVaderMentor

    This is an “all in”, all stakes, go for the throat last ditch false flag and honeypot effort. If it blows up it will be a huge blow-up and I think the Marine Generals on Trump’s staff are salivating and licking their chops as anxious and impatient as blind dogs inside a meat locker just waiting for an opportunity to go hunting for rogue CIA and NSA executives……

  • Feisty Hayseed

    It is Classic “If you don’t like the message, attack the messenger”. Now
    that the U.S. Government-Crooked Old Hillary for President
    Campaign-Democratic Party has officially blamed and punished the
    Russians for being the messenger, CAN WE PLEASE start asking John
    Podesta, Why he talked so excitedly about Pizza in his emails? Not to
    mention “Spirit Cooking”. There is a LOT of Strange, Warped, Bizarre
    and Disturbing references in the Podesta emails that need to
    be explained.

  • Jesse Michek

    You can’t be serious! I’m an advocate that would like to see a more balanced resolution rewarded to Russia in regards towards this issue. But you are flat out misleading your readers about Snowden’s age. He was born on June 21st, 1983. For him to be a 36-year NSA veteran is factually misleading your readers towards disheartenment.

    If you’re going to inform your viewers then inform them properly. Don’t facilitate false information so they click on your link just to make you a few bucks.

    Have some ethics fellas. We are all doing our best to uncover a great evil which encompasses this world. Stop being a proponent of that evil. Stand up to it. Give us the truth. Allow us to learn what we need to learn in order to combat this deception.

    Stop scaling you wallet against what needs to be said. This world needs more lighthouses, not pirañas.

    Please.

    • dudemcrodut

      I think the author was referring to William Binney in that paragraph, not Snowden.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Binney_(U.S._intelligence_official)

    • kgbgb

      The paragraph you complain about is clumsy, in that you have to read on to the next paragraph to find out who it is talking about, but once you have done so, it is clearly referring to Binney, not Snowden.

  • John Harwood CNBC/NYT : what should I ask Jeb..
    http://podestaemails.blogspot.com/2016/11/john-harwood-cnbcnyt-what-should-i-ask.html

    Appointment of John Podesta Special Advisor to the Board William J. Clinton Foundation
    http://podestaemails.blogspot.com/2016/11/appointment-of-john-podesta-special.html

    Re: Foreign Calls: We shdnt do this thru the white house.
    http://podestaemails.blogspot.com/2016/11/re-foreign-calls-we-shdnt-do-this-thru.html

    The investigation into her getting paid for campaigning, using foundation resources for her wedding and life for a decade, taxes on money from her parents
    http://podestaemails.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-investigation-into-her-getting-paid_7.html

    These people all have to be fired because they knew what they
    were doing was illegal.
    http://podestaemails.blogspot.com/2016/11/for-your-eyes-only-john-these-people.html

    Do we actually know who told Hillary she could use a private email? And has that person been drawn and quartered?
    http://podestaemails.blogspot.com/2016/11/do-we-actually-know-who-told-hillary.html

    The Empire Files: Abby Martin Exposes John Podesta
    http://podestaemails.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-empire-files-abby-martin-exposes.html

  • MIKLO

    I’m still on the fence with this, after all it’s so easy to spoof your IP address, MAC address, use a
    program like TOR or a VPN among other things for example. It’s possible someone in the USA or anywhere else tried to make it look like it came from Russia. Of course if it’s so easy for them to figure out who did it then anytime the USA engages in such behavior they also would be caught, next we we hear that USA can catch them but they can’t catch the USA. When anyone or any government agency says or thinks they can’t be fooled then they are being intellectually lazy or worse ignorant. As they say more will be revealed and we get to watch. 🙂 In my opinion this had no affect on US election and why is this such a big deal? When China hacked millions of USA government employees info we didn’t hear such outrage, oh yeah they wanna say Russia got Trump elected now that’s funny, can’t wait to hear the rest of the story meanwhile they ignore real problems that need to be addressed oh well go figure.

    MIKLO