Creator of NSA’s Global Surveillance System Calls B.S. On Russian Hacking Report

We’ve previously documented that the hacking evidence against Russia is extremely weak, and the new report on Russian hacking doesn’t say much.

Indeed – if Russia hacked the Democratic party emails (from the DNC and top Clinton aide John Podesta) – the NSA would have all of the records showing exactly who did it.

We asked Bill Binney what he thought of the new report.

Binney is the NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, who served as the senior technical director within the agency, who managed six thousand NSA employees, the 36-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency and the NSA’s best-ever analyst and code-breaker, who mapped out the Soviet command-and-control structure before anyone else knew how, and so predicted Soviet invasions before they happened (“in the 1970s, he decrypted the Soviet Union’s command system, which provided the US and its allies with real-time surveillance of all Soviet troop movements and Russian atomic weapons”).

Binney is the real McCoy. As we noted in 2013, Binney has been interviewed by virtually all of the mainstream media, including CBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, USA Today, Fox News, PBS and many others.

Binney tells Washington’s Blog:

I expected to see the IP’s or other signatures of APT’s 28/29 [the entities which the U.S. claims hacked the Democratic emails] and where they were located and how/when the data got transferred to them from DNC/HRC [i.e. Hillary Rodham Clinton]/etc. They seem to have been following APT 28/29 since at least 2015, so, where are they?

Further, once we see the data being transferred to them, when and how did they transfer that data to Wikileaks? This would be evidence of trying to influence our election by getting the truth of our corrupt system out.

And, as Edward Snowden said, once they have the IP’s and/or other signatures of 28/29 and DNC/HRC/etc., NSA would use Xkeyscore to help trace data passing across the network and show where it went. [Background.]

In addition, since Wikileaks is (and has been) a cast iron target for NSA/GCHQ/etc for a number of years there should be no excuse for them missing data going to any one associated with Wikileaks.


Too many words means they don’t have clear evidence of how the data got to Wikileaks.

Binney designed the NSA’s electronic surveillance system, so he would know.

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  • NobodysaysBOO

    the Russians hacked into our nuclear missile systems and our surveillance satellites planting phony photos, now none of our missiles work right.
    They have all reaimed at the Isralies OMG!

    • Elizabeth Simpson Shepard

      Not funny! Save your comedy for the stage.

      • NobodysaysBOO

        Go back down in to your happy place and let the GROWNUPS talk.

    • Jess

      I’m sure you would like to hear that the power grid system has been hacked by them. Lol so I guess your not too far off. (And yes, I’m aware you were being a smart ass: lol)

      • Jean

        And you believe that story without further scrutiny? You realise it appears to be nothing more than an infected laptop, right? Facts don’t matter, the Russians did it anyway, right?

  • Christian Nelson

    And he left out the fact that the report contains zero proof that Official Russian Intelligence agencies were responsible for any alleged hacking (phishing). Let’s see, according to the report it coulda been civilians, it coulda been the GRU, it coulda been the FSB. Give me a break.

    • mt

      Or it could have been some 400 pound guy sitting on his bed.

      • brenrod

        seth rich is not 400 lbs

        • Johnny Smoketree

          As far as we know…

  • Lily Lee

    Current gov. Integrity, therefore, equals zero!

  • watamess

    Binney is 36 years old but “in the 1970s, he decrypted the Soviet Union’s command system”? Something is wrong with the math.

    • pfft

      He was in the NSA for 36 years,.. let me guess you’re an American…

      • Mr Gadget

        He was also a whistle blower with a couple of others that went to congress and they tried to jail them. …for going to congress!

      • Joseph Molion

        Please don’t lump all Americans in with the people like that guy who can’t read… I’m American and I quite easily caught that he was a veteran NSA operative with 36 years of on the job experience, not that he was 36 years old. Most of us are actually fairly intelligent.

        • watamess

          If you were one of the fairly intelligent people, you would have considered the possibility that maybe SHE (not he as is “quite” obvious in the picture) misread that part of the article and suggested I re-read it. You didn’t even have anything useful to say, replying only to be an ass.

          Intelligent people don’t insult others, don’t assume things on others without considering possibilities and definitely don’t chime in with others who are advertising their own ignorance.

          Funny when a person makes a mistake because they missed a detail while pointing out another’s mistake because of one they missed.

          • Joseph Molion

            You thought the article said the agent was 36 years old. All I got wrong was your gender, and for that I apologize.

          • watamess

            You could assume I’m dictating this response having someone type for me and subsequently conclude I can’t read only that line of thinking wouldn’t make much sense. Barring that, its quite obvious I can read so incorrect again.

            My issue was your response to the guy who implied all Americans can’t read which, in itself, is a jackass thing to say. You took it a step further than his implication and stated “….people like that guy who can’t read…” instead of correcting me or, dare I suggest, chastise that person for issuing such a low opinion of Americans.

            Between this page and twitter there were only 2 lowly comments to my mistake: one from someone who thinks Americans are stupid and yours, siding with him.
            Thats all Im saying on the matter. The length of all of this is unintended and I apologize for that. You are who you are and you may be fairly intelligent; I have no idea. If you aim for very intelligent you won’t sound like such a shit in your comments.

      • Jess

        I think he has every right to judge us Americans right now. When we vote someone like Trump into office, it makes us look like idiots and it is somewhat embarrassing… I really respect input from those who are not from America bc they have a different perspective than we do. I have had my days when my mind is consumed by all the bs drama and it clouds your judgement.

        • Jean

          Embarrassing? Heh, just the left who don’t want him as POTUS anyway. Sorry, as a European I don’t feel embarrassed by Trump if he’s gonna clean up the leftist mess.

        • Kenneth Dreger

          Jess- as we can see from your D- Account you just started in 12-2016 posting with Di. As a Ex-Democrat of 50+ years I was proud to vote for “Someone like Trump” because I have had 7.11 years of being told America is not great, that we needed to help the world and bow down to nations leaders in public. Well, that isn’t how I was raised, you may think those who voted for Mr. Trump are just far right nuts, that is your choice BUT we waited for all that “Hope and change” and it never came. My hope is that you will be open to what this POTUS will do for America and draw your conclusions in 4 years……respectfully, one Old Vet.

      • watamess

        That was not only a real crappy thing to say but also implies you’ve never misread anything. Going by the ignorance of such a statement, I highly doubt that is accurate. As for your questioning my being American, yes I am meaning I’m not a jerk with nothing better to do than insult other people when I could have suggested they re-read that part of the article.
        Being wrong is human, picking on me for it makes you an ass.
        Liberal hypocrisy never ends.

    • Robert Cole

      Point of correction,the writer did not mean Binny is 36 years old but served for 36 years in service.

      • watamess

        Thank you for saying that nicely and being different from the other people who took the opportunity to insult me. I re-read it after I commented. Had a big oops moment.

  • A 36 year Veteran of IT fields..Friend, NOT 36 YEARS OLD…. Slow down – read correctly..peace, out.

  • Ok… finalities; yes, a person to be respected, interviewed, yes, that I do trust has our best interests at heart. Bill can you come over to and fix the fluxs in their systems..ASA vets are lost in their mazes and staffers don’t wish to speak geek ..j.

  • mineralt

    The Dems are in a panic right now because they know that the FBI investigation regarding the Clinton Foundation is all going to come to light. It will bring down HRC and may bring down Obama. This Russian nonsense is an attempt to get some leverage on Trump to not persue prosecution. It is not going to work.

    • gerry d welder

      Desperate for war so Obama and the RINOs can call for martial law and keep Trump out of office and themselves out of jail.

      USA’s 5th column, RINOs and ALL democrats:
      Obama, McCain, Boehner, McConnell, Clinton, Kerry, Graham, Bush, Ryan and Rubio (and ‘their’ puppets like Comey, Jeh and Lynch) answer ultimately to this ‘boss’:

      Ignore the stupid music in the beginning, go to the last 30 seconds of part 2, after watching both short videos, it is not hard to see how the NSA, CIA, DHS, BLM, etc. etc. (all federal) are no longer working for ‘we the people’ but for another group, as we are force taxed to fund it all.

      Obama and Rockefeller 1

      Obama and Rockefeller 2

      … and Hillary:
      When listening to this short speech below, put it in context with her emails (did she say ‘inbox’?) and the fact that our foreign enemies also, with “100 percent certainty”, hacked into her and her aid’s top secret emails.
      Hillary Clinton ADMITS CFR Runs the Government!

      This explains it all, the GOP RINOs haven’t been ‘caving on everything’ as Sean Hannity and Rush keep saying, the GOP RINOs are COMPLICIT.
      …and their MSM shills:

      • Finchy74

        Well said, Gerry.

    • Kimona

      I hope your right

  • Nicholas A Kocal

    After 36 years, the last 20 probably spent as a bureaucrat who no longer did any technical work … But he can make claims about classified information without getting it cleared. Something sounds like a great big lie.

  • Vida Galore

    I believe the Russian hacking bull as much as I believed the WMD dog & pony show Powell put on in 2003 which means “not at all”

  • AZWarrior
    • Jess

      I agree. Trumps so outspoken about his views and he makes it know exactly where in stand.

    • gerry d welder

      The Globalist Agenda – Quotes
      The Globalist Agenda – Quotes. … David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, …

      “The New World Order under the UN will reduce everything to one common denominator. The system will be made up of a single currency, single centrally financed government, single tax system, single language, single political system, single world court of justice, single state religion…Each person will have a registered number, without which he will not be allowed to buy or sell; and there will be one universal world church. Anyone who refuses to take part in the universal system will have no right to exist.”

      Assessment of the New World by Dr. Kurk E. Koch

  • Elizabeth Simpson Shepard

    I thought it would have IP addresses too. Just enough to confuse ppl adequately so they wouldn’t ask questions. WRONG! The diagram was an unnecessary addition which proved to me they really have nothing.
    Obama’s a weakling pretending to be in control. If he can’t have his legacy then he will get revenge.

    • sr77

      That last line is a perfect summation of Obama. You should tweet it.

      • Elizabeth Simpson Shepard

        Obama just tried to pass it off as complete and legitimate, one glance you know it’s got holes!

  • Jess

    Want proof? Here it is. Doesn’t look like anything but a bunch of numbers and letters, but it is so much or than just that. Good luck unencripting this…

    Indicators of Compromise (IOCs)
    IOCs associated with RIS cyber actors are provided within the accompanying .csv and .stix files of JAR-16-20296.
    Yara Signature
    rule PAS_TOOL_PHP_WEB_KIT { meta: description = “PAS TOOL PHP WEB KIT FOUND” strings: $php = ” 20KB and filesize < 22KB) and #cookie == 2 and #isset == 3 and all of them }

  • gerry d welder

    “This is frankly the most damaging and embarrassing answer the US could receive,” Michael Kofman, a global fellow at the Wilson Center specializing in Russian and Eurasian affairs, told Business Insider on Friday. “It’s quite clear that both the Obama administration and Congress are trying to box Donald Trump in on Russia policy. But instead of responding to this latest salvo with predictable retaliatory measures, Russians have chosen to make them a nonissue.”

    US Govt: it’s good to release technical indicators to help defenders. But please don’t call it your evidence of attribution when it’s not.

    Russia to Send Plane for Russian Diplomats and Their Families Expelled From US

    Putin decides not to expel US diplomats from Russia – invites children of US diplomats to a New Year party in the Kremlin

  • Kimona

    So more fake news/propaganda from the left.

  • WIKILEAKS PROVIDES Evidence that Hillary armed ISIS

    Being a Secretary of State, Hillary on a regular basis asked her housekeeper, Marina Santos, to print government emails and documents. What is most remarkable is that several of these papers contained classified information. Besides, Clinton sent the classified emails to her butler Oscar Flores numerous times. He also printed them despite having no security permission for doing this.

    Where would you stick the knife in (Bernie Sanders) ?

    Huffington Post in the tank with Hillary Campaign

    I hope you got a chance to see the The Colbert Report’s two special episodes I had them do about CGI

    So afraid that NYT is going with this story on Priorities whether we like or not.

    FBI Finds Proof Hillary’s Server Hacked

    I had never heard that, I thought Vince Foster was the only person the Clinton’s killed. How naive I was

  • furtive

    Fabricated report with the help of ukraine’s malware history.

  • pedero

    Are you suggesting Hillary Clintons private email server was hacked? That is the first I am hearing of that. Care to share your sources?

    • Joe Blow

      Without an emoticon I don’t know if you are joking?? Sources: 100’s of hours of Fox News to start with, youtube videos, etc.

      • Psyclic

        100s of hours of FOX news! THAT’s a verifiable source alright!

        • Joe Blow

          You know, coming out here in virtual reality and attempting to hold a discussion is pretty difficult. There seems to always be someone using what they think is clever repartee cutting others down but in reality it is just sophmoric banter from arrested adolescents. This is America, 2017 and it is pathetic.

  • Balynt

    You are a complete nut.

    • Jack Hamilton

      You have your head up your ass!

      • Balynt

        Thanks for recognizing I have a head. It must have been hard for you. Keep working on developing one.

  • Balynt

    I cannot believe the paranoid garbage responses to this article. You guys need to have a mental health check. Get a job and check of of the internet for your own sanity.

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  • brenrod

    looking like it was transferred by a dem insider by usb flash drive

  • Richard Arlen