7 Times The MSM Got Destroyed In A Debate In 2016

media-failBrandon Turbeville
Activist Post

With the recent hysteria in the mainstream media over so-called “fake news” and “Russian propaganda,” it is clear that the Western corporate press is lashing out wildly at the threat of the alternative media. Every time the corporate press has put forward a false narrative about Syria, the alternative press has been there to dismantle it. Every time a false flag attack happens to galvanize Americans, the alternative media has been there to expose it. Every time the corporate press chooses to talk about Beyonce instead of massive government scandals, the alternative press has been there to pick up the slack.

Thus, it is clear that the alternative media has finally reached the point where it is a major threat to the corporate propaganda operation and the deep state is having to react in order to neutralize it. Hence, we have “fake news” scandals that were entirely manufactured and made up and the reason why unproven claims of Russian propaganda are being reported by actual fake news outlets like CNN, NPR, and the rest as factual.

With all that being said, there are increasing numbers of clashes between alternative media journalists and the corporate outlets trying to slander them. When the corporations can slander alt media personalities without response, the propaganda tends to work well enough. However, when faced with an alt media journalist who can respond, the corporate media tends to fall flat on its face every time.

Below are some highlights from 2016 where the corporate media clashed with the alt media and got its ass kicked. Enjoy.

1.) Eva Bartlett DESTROYS Mainstream Journalist.

Having spent a number of months on the ground in Syria, travelling all across the country and, specifically, Aleppo, journalist Eva Bartlett has finally returned to the Western world with yet another round of firsthand knowledge of the Syrian Crisis. Bartlett has travelled to Syria a number of times, each time carrying back a story widely different from that peddled on the mainstream corporate press of NATO countries.

After having left Syria, Bartlett took part in a press conference organized by the Syrian mission to the United Nations. After giving a brief statement about what she has observed in Syria and how she is aware firsthand of the Western media’s deception in terms of coverage of the crisis, she was questioned by a Norwegian journalist, Christopher Rothenberg, who challenged her claims that the Western media was lying.

You can see Eva’s epic response here:


2.) David Icke Clashes With Obnoxious Childish TODAY Show Hosts

Icke is always characteristically gracious and patient with mainstream journalists who, over the years, have abused, ridiculed, and mocked everything he says, most times taking it out of context to use against him later. Perhaps after years of mainstream stupidity, Icke seems to have come out ready to fight during his latest tour of corporate news. This interview earns its place on the list because a.) Icke brings the ignorance of the hosts full circle at the end of the program and b.) because the male host was so obviously obnoxious that if Icke had said nothing, the TODAY Show was revealed for being the daily dose of brain-killing entertainment that it is.


3.) Eva Bartlett Destroys Mainstream Pundit On Syria Ceasefire Question

Although RT is not what one would consider “mainstream” in the U.S., the debate most certainly involved a mainstream academic, Stephen Zunes of the University of San Francisco as well as Eva Bartlett and historian Gareth Porter. Early on the in the debate, Zunes began reciting his training that there are many “moderate” terrorists and that the Syrian military was responsible for untold amounts of dead civilians. Eva jumps in shortly after and dumps a bucket of cold water on Zunes’ regurgitation of State Department and mainstream propaganda lines. After only a few moments of debate with Bartlett, Zunes becomes more and more frustrated and visibly irate, making gestures and becoming restless throughout the debate.


4.) Jesse Ventura Defends Gary Johnson, Opposes The Drug War, Praises Putin On Yahoo! News

What would a list of confrontational interviews be like without Jesse Ventura? In this interview, the host is obviously pushing an anti-Russia propaganda line and attempts to push this line on Ventura. Wrong move. The only bad thing about Ventura’s interviews with mainstream propagandists is that there aren’t enough of them. Perhaps the MSM is a bit frightened?



5.) Vanessa Beeley and Daniel McAdams destroy Brent Budowsky in RT debate.

Brent Budowsky has been making the rounds for a few years now promoting the war in Syria and, now that the word has come down the pike to attack the Russians, doing that as well. Faced with debating Vanessa Beeley, who has travelled to Syria a number of times and has personal, eyewitness testimony regarding the situation on the ground, Budowsky could only rely on rhetoric and shouting to stay in the debate. Beeley and McAdams could rest assured they had won the debate when Budowsky started yelling “dead Syrian civilians!!!” and “dead babies!!!!” at the top of his lungs over and over again, curiously asking Beeley if she’d ever interviewed any of the “dead Syrian babies” that he claims Assad killed. We are not sure how Beeley could interview a dead baby but we are sure that she won the debate.


6.) Eva Bartlett Deals Strongly With Dilly Hussain, Terrorist Supporter Based In The UK

To his credit, Hussain has been Eva’s most formidable opponent yet. But it only took 3 minutes into the program before Hussain starts screaming that Eva is a “Russian agent” and “conspiracy theorist.” Hussain did his best to over-talk and shout down Bartlett before she firmly silenced him. Despite the fact that every time Hussain put forward as much propaganda and rhetoric as he possibly could, Bartlett followed behind him and completely eviscerated him. Finally, after calling him out on what she labels his “Zionist strategy,” Hussain manages to insult the RT host into a debate over whether or not he is pushing Russian propaganda. It’s a valiant effort on the part of Hussain but, ultimately, a slow burn and crash at the end. Toward the end of the program, Hussain is left looking like schoolyard bully who has just been beaten up in front of the class.


7.) David Icke Calmly Rips Apart The Propaganda of Andrew Neil, Liz Kendall, Michael Portillo on BBC.

Not his most confrontational interview here but Icke walks calmly through all Neil’s attempts at making his “conspiracies” look ridiculous. Each time Neil throws out a snide question to Icke, David avoids the mine field and manages to bring out a staggering amount of truth in the time he has to speak. The program concludes with Andrew Neil saying that, in his lifetime, everything has always been investigated and has turned out alright. Right Neil. Everything is fine. Nothing to worry about here.

If you know of any other moments like this, feel free to include them in the comments.

Brandon Turbeville – article archive here – is the author of seven books, Codex Alimentarius — The End of Health Freedom, 7 Real Conspiracies, Five Sense Solutions and Dispatches From a Dissident, volume 1 and volume 2, The Road to Damascus: The Anglo-American Assault on Syria, and The Difference it Makes: 36 Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Should Never Be President. Turbeville has published over 850 articles on a wide variety of subjects including health, economics, government corruption, and civil liberties. Brandon Turbeville’s radio show Truth on The Tracks can be found every Monday night 9 pm EST at UCYTV. His website is BrandonTurbeville.com He is available for radio and TV interviews. Please contact activistpost (at) gmail.com.

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  • JosephConrad

    Americans who wish to remain alive and free in this pseudo Republic had better prepare themselves.
    Those they have permitted to run and dominate it will kill their opponents. It’s that simple.

    The Rich White Wasp-Jew Neocons who ‘front’ for those who own the U.S. will not tolerate opposition.
    They merely KILL IT. A sample of the list of their VICTIMS includes those of the Bushes & Clintons.

    If citizens of this nation wish it the U.S. to be a vibrant, just Republic, they must defend it.
    They must do so as SAVAGELY as those currently WRECKING IT such as the MSM & 1%.
    They can’t depend on the people in the Police, National Guard & Military who have forgotten their OATH.
    They must look to themselves and those who share their world view or they will be eliminated.

  • Novus Ordo Seclorum

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, and then you WIN.
    Well done Alter Media!!

    But you should know that as no chemical reaction can take place without the required activation energy, no social change can happen without fights that generate enough energy to allow the society to move to a new energy level. This is natural and nobody can fight it unless you want to keep the status quo.

    The same is true about the ongoing economic center of gravity shifting from the West to ASIA… All proxy wars in the Middle East and the maneuvers to use Manila as the output to disrupt China is just normal.

    But the center of gravity of the planet has to shift and that will happen no matter what OBAMA and his zio masters do.

  • Sharon Marlowe

    Okay, but David Icke? I’m sorry but the shapeshifting lizard theory does nothing but discredit critical thinkers. Strange choice.

    • Carl_Herman

      “Shapeshifting lizard theory” does nothing but discredit critical thinkers because, Sharon, it is a straw man argument. I’ve been to one of David’s all-day events and read two of his books. What research have you done?

      My conclusions:
      1. David begins with “garden variety” false flags, War Crimes, and other .01% crimes. These are easy to document and prove, and what anyone educated discovers in areas of interest.

      2. David addresses an essential question: if these colonial powers are truly in competition with each other, why don’t they call each other out on crimes of state such as lie-started and illegal Wars of Aggression, assassinations, market rigging, etc.? That is, what connection runs among these state players that is cooperative to maintain the illusions of legitimate war, lone nuts, “economic cycles,” etc.? For example, it would be easy to take down US “leadership” with the type of facts we address if they were unleashed in Japan, Germany, France, China, etc., so why doesn’t this happen?

      3. As a history teacher, I professionally assert that we have true mysteries that our “masters” cover-up, such as megalithic architecture, documented UFOs going back to Roman and ancient Chinese historians, “blue blood” mythologies connected to “gods,” etc. David dives deep into related histories to present a hypothesis I cannot refute (and won’t invest the tremendous time to professionally affirm): humanity was captured by an ET species that worked/works through bloodlines they can control. Technology helps their control, with a purpose to use “sheeple” for work, play, and prey.

      4. Related professional work such as in bestsellers by Jim Marrs connects secret societies to the central secret of ET attempted control over humanity. Read any of these, Sharon?

      Now, Sharon and interested readers, this is how to begin any disagreement you might have with Icke’s work: a fair summary of his claims.

      My response is to follow Icke’s website, along with others, to consider their claims and match them with unfolding events. An ongoing response we all should have is to consider that what we think we know has been uprooted sooooo many times that we should be quite open to extraordinary claims that are internally consistent and connect to evidence. That said, hey, prove Icke wrong with professional-level refutation if you’re interested and able. I’m just as interested in those claims as is anyone with interest in Truth.

      • Sharon Marlowe

        Thank you, Carl_Herman, for your well-written response:)

        You know, I did watch his lectures before, and I checked out the “reptilian agenda” theory. I should preface that I agree, of course, that there are many many many mysteries in life, truly. And UFOs are one of them, for sure. But the reptilian-thing is fictional story-telling. It has all the ingredients–mysticism, racism, time-manipulation, an abundance of invisible characters, all woven together like folk-lore or a religion. It’s entertaining, yes, but it’s fiction.
        The greatest stories are in the human mind:)

  • ResearchGuy

    I don’t understand how someone like you, Carl, can praise Icke so uncritically. [Edit, I meant to address Brandon, the author of the article, but as Carl defended Icke also, I guess I’m addressing this to both of you.] Even if, as you claim, Icke in his lectures exposes ‘”garden variety” false flags, War Crimes,’ etc., he sure didn’t do so in the first few minutes of the first video. He allowed the media bots to control the discussion by focusing on his claim that the moon is an extraterrestrial spacecraft — not a good way to educate people who have already been primed to dismiss him as a crank. When the woman asked him a reasonable question, instead of answering it or explaining why it’s not a reasonable question, or not the most important question, he accuses her of not understanding his theory. That was not a helpful response; it was an evasion. In the first four minutes of a seven-minute interview he said nothing the least bit enlightening. I stopped watching it at that point, like most people would.