President Obama Threatens President Putin with Nuclear War

Eric Zuesse

“It’ll be at a time of our choosing,” says U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, on NBC’’s “Meet the Press,” to be aired on Sunday, October 16th.

Interviewer Chuck Todd had asked him, “Why would he [Obama] send a message out to Putin?” Biden pursed his lips, paused, and said, with a grim look on his face, “We sent him the message.” Of course that didn’t answer Todd’s question, which was “Why?” Biden and Todd both remained silent for another tense moment. Then, Biden picked up again: “We have the capacity to do it, and, uh,” and Todd interrupted him there with “He’ll know it?” Biden replied: “He’ll know it, and it’ll be at a time of our choosing, and under circumstances that have the greatest impact. Uh, the capacity to do, to fundamentally alter the election, is not what people think; and, uh, I tell you what: to the extent that they do [‘do’ presumably meaning: fundamentally alter the election], we will be proportionate in what we do. And, uh,” Todd again interrupted his interviewee, and said, “So, a message is going to be sent. Will the public know?” Biden replied, “Hope not.”

Of course, that “Hope not” could mean many things. It might mean: A blitz nuclear attack in line with our government’s belief that we now enjoy Nuclear Primacy (an idea that was first published by the Council on Foreign Relations in 2006, and which has never yet been renounced by the U.S. government, during the decade since). That would be very much a public response, which Biden would “hope not” to be ’necessary’. In other words: Biden might have meant, there: “I hope it won’t have to be that.” But, clearly, Biden isn’t wanting the public to understand anything, other than that President Obama has threatened President Putin, with something, and that it will be “proportionate,” and the excuse for it will be — if it will happen — that Putin had done something which Obama thinks caused Hillary Clinton to lose the election to Donald Trump.

Standing behind what Biden is saying there, is the belief that Putin does have in his possession some option that might “fundamentally alter the election.” This is clearly a threat that’s meant to deter Putin from doing something that Putin hasn’t yet done. Obama is telling Putin that either the winner will be the person he wants to be his successor, or else — or else what?

In other words: what Biden is saying, is that, if Trump wins this election, then there is going to be some sudden, unannounced, U.S. government response against Putin, and that only after it is over, will the U.S. government explain to the public why it did what it did.

But, of course, that assumes Americans will still be alive, even if Russians are not; and, so, if the “proportionate” response turns out to be a blitz nuclear attack against Russia, then anyone who is still alive will be wondering: what was it ‘proportionate’ to?

The United States is no longer — at least not in Syria — actually fighting the thing that Trump calls “extremist Islamic terrorism”: we are instead arming Al Qaeda in Syria to overthrow and replace Putin’s ally, Bashar al-Assad, there. All of the U.S. government’s talk against “ISIL” (the Sauds’ preferred acronym for “ISIS”) is mere distraction from the tens of thousands of other jihadist fighters from other jihadist groups that have also been imported by the U.S. and Saudi governments into Syria as Obama’s and the Sauds’ “boots on the ground” to overthrow Assad there. The leadership now for all of those jihadist groups (except for ISIS itself) is, in fact, Al Qaeda in Syria, which has gone under the name “al-Nusra.” Nusra is supplying the leadership now to all the jihadist factions that have been sent into Syria; Nusra is the only jihadist group that possesses the long experience and training in jihad and military matters, which is needed in order to be able to overthrow Assad. Al Qaeda is now America’s essential ally, at doing what the U.S. government most wants to do: overthrow and replace Assad. The U.S. is deadly serious about that intention, as can be seen here from the NBC News preview video of their interview with Biden, from which the above quotations are sourced. Looking at Biden’s face there, one can see that this is deadly serious. This isn’t about sexual aggression — either Donald Trump’s or Bill Clinton’s — it’s about the survival of civilization, or else nuclear war.

There have been many reports in the U.S. press saying that Obama has, ever since at least October 6th, been contemplating an all-out U.S. bombing campaign to bring down Assad. But that would mean war with Russia, which has been actively bombing Nusra and all the other jihadists in Syria. 

Hillary Clinton is urging a “no-fly zone” in Syria, so that we can do to Assad what we did to another ally of Moscow, Muammar Gaddafi. However, when that was done to Gaddafi, Putin stood aside and wasn’t supplying military assistance to Gaddafi, which would have enabled Gaddafi to wipe out the fundamentalist Muslims who were trying to overthrow him. Russia is involved actively, this time, to prevent happening in Syria what happened in Libya. A no-fly zone in Syria would thus mean U.S. war against Russia.

These are tense times. Any escalation that the U.S. can do against Russia, can be met by an escalation that Russia can do against the United States.

Consequently, whatever escalation Obama is now threatening against Putin, might be met by an escalation on the other side. Where will it stop, or would it even be able to stop?

Whatever escalation Obama might consider to be ‘proportionate’, could consequently end up ending the world as we know it — and not for the better. Hillary Clinton has threatened Putin with war; now Barack Obama has done likewise.

Whatever Biden’s assignment here actually was from Obama, one thing about it is clear: this President is determined that Hillary Clinton be his successor, and Obama will target anyone who gets in his way if he doesn’t win his way on this. And Obama wants the American public to know that this is how he feels about the matter.

This Biden-interview is really intended, in that sense, to be a threat aimed at America’s voters, telling them, telling each one of us: Vote for Hillary Clinton, or else! He’s not telling us what that “or else!” is going to be — and maybe he himself has no accurate idea of how far it will ultimately cycle and go. Ultimately, whatever he thinks it would be, might not turn out to be the last step in this cycle of escalation — unless it’s going to go directly to a blitz attack against Russia.

Obama is thus coercing us, before he coerces Putin. He’s telling us: If we vote against Hillary Clinton — if she loses this election — then President Obama has something in mind that we won’t like — and he won’t wait until the next President is inaugurated on 20 January 2017 to do it, whatever ‘it’ might be. Obama here is threatenting not only Vladimir Putin, but the American people. Even if Obama truly believes that he alone possesses all the power, he does not, unless he possesses the power to terrorize America’s voters to elect Hillary Clinton, even if we otherwise would not.


Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of  They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010, and of  CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity.

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  • Silverado

    It’s been decided that the Obama legacy is abject failure. Just wait till this war loving neocon loser has to pardon neocon queen crooked Hillary for her many and ongoing crimes before he leaves office. It’s a toss-up from Hell and he’s dammed if he does and he’s dammed if he doesn’t. My guess is that crooked Hillary has the goods on him too. So after a not-so veiled…threat that if she goes to jail he goes to jail, he’ll do the dirty deed and pardon her. And that’s how history will remember the first black president besides his spending the country into financial oblivion resulting in more debt than all his predecessors before him combined. It was he who let history slip through his dirty, dirty warmongering hands inherited from and continuing George “Baby” Bush’s dirty, dirty globalist warmongering deeds accomplishing basically little to nothing of significance and/or importance in the overall scheme of running this country (and the world) and leaving it (and the world) in better shape than when he found it upon taking office. Barack Obama is royally screwed and the vise is just starting to really put him and his…ethically challenged administration between that proverbial rock and a hard place. And we’ll all be witness as it continues between now and election day 3+ short weeks away when Donald Trump wins by a landslide…

  • Nexusfast123

    The degenerate lunatics are running the Washington asylum. You can be sure that Putin is not going to end up having a knife shoved up his arse like Gaddafi.

    • Davey Boy

      I thought it was an iron rod that was shoved up Gaddafis’ arse?

      • David S

        Actually its a two-party oligarchy with a figurehead emperor that was shoved up the American public’s arse a long time ago.

  • Feudal Peasant

    So this is an indirect threat to American voters and on Sunday after this airs, the media will spin the hell out of this and make it a direct threat, and Americans will fear for their lives. Mission accomplished.

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  • SoupySayles

    He doesn’t scare anyone & especially Putin. How safe is this man with his finger on the nuke button?? Obama isn’t smart enough to know how to handle these situations & has has been dependant upon Hillary’s experience, now Hillary has enough on Obama to take him down with her. If this is the start of the end of the world, so be it, my vote goes to Trump.

    • Davey Boy

      As a Brit, I wish I could vote for Trump as well. 🙁

  • Davey Boy

    So the options are:

    Trump win:
    -(((Media))) declares Russian tampering.
    -Obama stays in office.
    -War with Russia.


    -Clinton wins.
    -Enacts no fly zone over Syria to protect ISIS.
    -War with Russia.

    So we are screwed either way.
    I wonder who is on the “Wrong side of history” here?????

  • nancy

    Obama’s threats mean nothing. You cannot unilaterally start a war. Congress would have to approve any type of military or retaliatory action on another country. Again Obama thinks he is a dictator

    • David S

      Congress would have to approve…..? Where have you been for the past many decades? The president IS a dictator and has been for at least the past 5 administrations if not many more. The Constitution is dead and Congress helped kill it.

      • Pat

        They use false flag operation to trick the congress into approving wars.

        Like Lusitania’s sinking (1915), Pearl-Harbour, or Iraq with the mass destruction weapons excuse.

    • Pat

      Things can be done to trick the congress in approving a war like these ones below :

      – Sinking of the Lusitania in 1915

      – Pearl Harbor

      Or more recently the war on Iraq with false “mass destruction weapons” excuse.

      Very sad when our own leaders sacrifice its own people for power and riches.

    • Mike

      This isn’t completely true. The President has authority to engage in conflict without the consent of congress. This empowers the executive branch to take strategic military action to protect American interests. Congress has authority to the degree in which a war is funded. Which is why, customarily speaking, approval of congress is sought prior to engagement in drawn out military engagement.

  • Neil

    Biden’s message is very cryptic, and thus very vague. Government and Media have been spewing nonsense about Russia hacking our election; voting machines, the computers that count the votes, and voter records are not connected to the internet and so are not hackable. The other possibility is further Wikileaks releases of Hillary’s emails, allegedly provided by Russia, that are so shocking that she cannot win. But Biden cannot say outright that there better not be any further email releases, so he speaks cryptically. What other means of altering the election can there be? None, I think. But, Obama/Hillary don’t want us to suspect that they fear further email revelations, so Biden says that the capability to alter the election is not what we think.
    The DNC stole the nomination for Hillary; the election will be hacked to flip enough votes to her to
    steal the Presidency. Therefore, they aren’t worried about Trump winning, so I don’t think this is a veiled warning to the American people to vote Hillary. But they are worried about shocking emails being released. If that happens, a Hillary “win” would be known to be a fraud.
    Why would Julian Assange and Putin care if the fraud is exposed? They normally wouldn’t. Thus, the vague warning.

  • ICFubar

    I think we can safely say that most of the Federal and State governments are a direct threat against the people and this just corroborates this thesis.

  • Army of Addicts

    Putin may have an ace in the hole.

  • woodguy11

    Obama threatens Putin w/ nuclear LOL LOL LOL

  • woodguy11
  • Obaaaaaaaama sheep get sheared

    Putin must be shaking in his shoes ( laughing ) at the guy who pulled her panties to the side over Syria and tickled a red line in the sand that turned yellow as soon as hit..Libs will never u dersrves bullies will always biatch slap the weak.Nobody not even the little twerp in Korea is afraid of the appeaser.