Recovery Workers Reportedly Found the Black Boxes From the Planes That Hit the World Trade Center on 9/11, but Authorities Covered This Up

By Shoestring, Shoestring 9/11 Blog.

A poster depicting a plane's black boxes

The black boxes from the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, were found and retrieved in the weeks after the 9/11 attacks, a significant amount of evidence indicates. And yet government officials and the official investigation into the attacks have asserted that these devices were never recovered.

A plane’s two black boxes record important information about a flight. The black boxes from American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175–the planes that hit the World Trade Center–could therefore have helped investigators determine what happened on these aircraft before they crashed on September 11.

A number of people who were involved in the recovery effort in the weeks after 9/11 have said they saw or helped recover objects at the World Trade Center site that appeared to be black boxes from a plane. One worker unearthed an object that looked like a black box at Pier 25 on the Hudson River. FBI agents who inspected the object initially said enthusiastically that it appeared to be a black box, but subsequently said they didn’t think it was one of these devices. A firefighter has described helping FBI agents retrieve three black boxes at Ground Zero and a colleague of his recalled seeing one of these being recovered.

Additionally, investigators reportedly detected a signal that was being emitted by one of the black boxes from Flight 11 or Flight 175 and recovery workers were sent to search in the location where the signal was coming from.

One government official actually said off the record that all four black boxes from Flight 11 and Flight 175 were recovered. This was certainly a reasonable assertion. It would in fact have been unusual if the devices were never found, since a plane’s black boxes are made to survive extreme conditions, and so the black boxes on Flights 11 and 175 should have withstood the conditions they endured on September 11.

Furthermore, experts have said they knew of no plane crashes, other than those at the World Trade Center, after which the black boxes weren’t recovered. Indeed, the black boxes from the two other planes that were hijacked on September 11–American Airlines Flight 77 and United Airlines Flight 93–were recovered within a few days of the 9/11 attacks.

If the accounts of the black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 being found are correct, we need to consider why the discoveries went unreported. And why has it been officially claimed that no black boxes were found at the World Trade Center site?

Might it be because the information on the black boxes is inconsistent with the official account of the 9/11 attacks? Perhaps it indicates that rogue individuals in the U.S. government and military were involved in planning and carrying out the attacks. So in order to maintain the official account of 9/11, it has been necessary to prevent the information on the black boxes being made public.

BLACK BOXES CAN HELP INVESTIGATORS DISCOVER WHY A PLANE CRASHED
All commercial aircraft carry two black boxes: a cockpit voice recorder and a flight data recorder. These devices record information while a plane is in flight, which, in the event of the plane crashing, can help investigators reconstruct the events that preceded the crash. The black boxes are each about the size of a shoe box and, despite the name, are colored bright orange, to make them more visible in the wreckage of a crash. They are located in the tail of a plane, since this is the area of an aircraft that usually survives a crash most intact. [1]

The flight data recorder records details of a plane’s operation. Sensors collect up to 700 different types of information, such as the plane’s airspeed, altitude, cabin pressure, engine performance, direction, and fuel flow. Data that cover up to 25 hours of flight prior to a crash will have been stored. The cockpit voice recorder, meanwhile, records noises in a plane’s cockpit, such as conversations and radio transmissions. The audio information is taken by up to four microphones, which are usually located on the pilots’ headsets. Sounds from the last 30 minutes of a flight prior to a crash will have been stored. [2]

The black boxes from the planes that were hijacked on September 11 could have provided investigators with invaluable information about these flights. At Ground Zero, finding the black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 was therefore considered a priority in the initial days of the recovery operation. Numerous posters showing what a plane’s black boxes look like were put up around the World Trade Center site so people would recognize the devices if they came across one as they searched through the debris. [3] The accounts below strongly suggest that recovery workers did indeed find some or all of the black boxes from Flights 11 and 175.

FBI AGENTS SAID AN OBJECT FOUND IN THE RUBBLE LOOKED LIKE A BLACK BOX, BUT THEN CHANGED THEIR MINDS
On October 12, 2001, an operating engineer unearthed what appeared to be a black box from a plane while he was scraping up a load of debris at Pier 25 on the Hudson River. [4] At Pier 25, a short distance from the World Trade Center site, debris was being loaded onto barges and then transported to the Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island. [5] The operating engineer thought the object was the same shape as a black box. It was too badly burned and blackened, though, for him to tell if it had originally been bright orange, the color of a plane’s black boxes. The crane operator at the pier inspected the object and he too thought it looked like a black box.

The operating engineer made a call to report the discovery and got through to Lieutenant Ed Moss of the Port Authority Police Department (PAPD). In response to the call, Moss and his colleague, Lieutenant Bill Doubrawski, went to the pier and examined the object. Both men thought it appeared to be one of the black boxes. Excited at the discovery, Moss contacted Lieutenant William Keegan, who was in charge of the PAPD’s nighttime rescue and recovery operation at Ground Zero, told him what had happened, and described the object that had been unearthed. Wanting to examine the object for himself, Keegan went to Pier 25.

After comparing the object to some photos of the black boxes from a plane, Keegan agreed with his colleagues’ assessment. He has recalled that he determined the object “was absolutely close enough to the pictures available to us to notify the FBI without delay.” The PAPD officers promptly requested that some FBI agents working at Ground Zero meet them at the PAPD command post, in front of the Borough of Manhattan Community College.

Twenty to 30 minutes later, two FBI agents arrived at the command post. They inspected the object and compared it to a diagram of a black box. Like the other people who examined it, they appear to have thought it was one of the black boxes from Flight 11 or Flight 175. They said words to the effect of “Wow, this looks like it!” and “It’s the same shape!” according to Keegan. And yet for no obvious reason, after examining the object for a few more minutes, they apparently changed their opinion. They told the PAPD officers, “We don’t think it’s a black box.”

Keegan suggested to the two agents that if the object wasn’t one of the black boxes, it could be thrown onto a barge to be taken to the Fresh Kills landfill, along with the other debris. But one of them quickly protested, saying, “No, no, we’re going to take it with us.” The agents then went away, taking the object with them. Keegan and his colleagues never subsequently received any information about the object and whether it was indeed one of the black boxes. [6]

INVESTIGATORS DETECTED A SIGNAL THAT WAS THOUGHT TO BE FROM A BLACK BOX
Recovery workers searched for one of the black boxes from Flight 11 or Flight 175 after a signal thought to have been coming from the device was detected in the week after 9/11.

A report published by the New York State Emergency Management Office on September 18, 2001, stated that investigators had “identified the signal from one of the black boxes” in the debris at Ground Zero. [7] The New York Times mentioned the discovery, reporting that on September 18, a law enforcement official said a signal from a plane’s black box may have been detected. “They are picking up some pinging,” the official said. “But,” the official added, “there is so much stuff on top of it, including ironwork, that it will take some time for them to get to it.” [8]

Recovery workers searched for the black box in locations where the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)–the government agency that is responsible for operating the U.S. air traffic control system–told them the signal had been detected. FAA personnel initially said they thought the signal was coming from the corner of Liberty and Church Streets, which bordered the south and east edges of the World Trade Center site. Recovery workers were therefore sent to dig at this location.

POLICE OFFICERS SEARCHED FOR A BLACK BOX ON THE ROOF OF A WORLD TRADE CENTER BUILDING
But a few days later, the FAA decided the signal originated from a different location. On Friday, September 21, it said the signal was coming from inside or directly below the roof of Building 5 of the World Trade Center. This building was in the northeast corner of the World Trade Center site, a significant distance from where the FAA previously said the signal originated.

Three officers with the New York City Police Department’s Emergency Service Unit (ESU) were sent to search the roof of Building 5. Once they made it up there, the officers looked around for a hole or a dent that would have been created if a black box had impacted the roof after being catapulted out of one of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. However, they found the roof to be intact, with no signs of any objects landing on it.

One of the ESU officers, Steven Stefanakos, repeatedly tried contacting the FAA employee(s) responsible for finding the black boxes at Ground Zero, to request more details about the location of the black box, but received no response. Eventually, a voice came over his radio and told him: “The FAA aren’t here. They went home for the weekend.” Since it was only around five o’clock in the afternoon, Stefanakos and his two colleagues were astonished that the FAA employee(s) had left work early at such a critical time, when it was possible that one of the black boxes was about to be found. The three ESU officers then abandoned their search for the day. [9] Whether a black box was later found and retrieved from Building 5 is unknown.

Strangely, the claim that a signal from a plane’s black box had been detected at the World Trade Center site was subsequently denied. A report published by the New York City Office of Emergency Management on September 25, 2001, stated that the FAA had been “[u]nable to detect any pinging” from a black box at Ground Zero. [10] And while a team from the Army’s Communications-Electronics Command (CECOM) that arrived at the World Trade Center site two days after 9/11 identified “some signals that could have emanated from the black boxes” using “radio frequency detectors,” CECOM official Toni Quiroz said that “it was never determined” if any of these signals had come from one or more of the black boxes. [11]

FIREFIGHTER SAID HE RETRIEVED THREE BLACK BOXES AT GROUND ZERO
One man who worked extensively at Ground Zero stated that he helped recover three black boxes from the rubble of the World Trade Center. Firefighter Nicholas DeMasi was assigned to take some FBI agents around the World Trade Center site in his all-terrain vehicle to search for the devices. “There were a total of four black boxes,” he has commented, adding, “We found three.” [12]

Mike Bellone, a volunteer recovery worker at Ground Zero, supported DeMasi’s account. He said he personally witnessed one of the black boxes being recovered. He recalled that around late September or early October 2001, he saw DeMasi escorting “these FBI agents into the area” to search for the black boxes. “They had found one [of the black boxes] that I know of, that I actually physically saw,” he said. He described this object as “a box that appeared charred but was reddish-orange with two white stripes”–a description that fits a plane’s black box.

Bellone recalled that when DeMasi finished escorting the FBI agents around the World Trade Center site, the firefighter told him that “they had found two more” black boxes. “The FBI looked pretty happy about it,” Bellone commented. The FBI agents took the three black boxes with them when they left the site, he said. [13]

ALL FOUR BLACK BOXES WERE FOUND, ACCORDING TO ONE OFFICIAL
A government official stated that in fact all four black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 were found at the World Trade Center site.

In an attempt to learn what happened to the black boxes from the planes that hit the Twin Towers, investigative reporter Dave Lindorff talked to someone from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB)–the government agency that is responsible for investigating every civil aviation accident that occurs in the United States. Lindorff asked, “How many of these boxes did they actually ever find?” The NTSB official asked Lindorff if he wanted “the real answer or the official answer.” Lindorff said he wanted the real answer and was told, “Well then, that has to be off the record.” The official then said, “We got all four of them and … they’re now in the possession of the FBI, which took them away from us.” [14]

GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CLAIMED NO BLACK BOXES WERE FOUND AT GROUND ZERO
Despite the evidence described above, which indicates that black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 were recovered in the weeks after 9/11, U.S. government officials have claimed that none of the black boxes from the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center were found.

FBI spokesman Stephen Kodak stated: “To the best of my knowledge, the flight recording devices from the World Trade Center crashes were never recovered. At least we never had them.” And Jim Margolin, a spokesman for the FBI’s New York office, said, after checking with the leader of the bureau’s Ground Zero investigation, that no black boxes were recovered from the wreckage of the World Trade Center.

Ted Lopatkiewicz, a spokesman for the NTSB, said: “No recorders were recovered from the World Trade Center. At least none were delivered to us by the FBI.” And New York City Fire Department spokesman Frank Gribbon said that “no one” in the Fire Department was “aware of the recovery of any of the airline black boxes” at the World Trade Center site. [15]

Additionally, the final report of the 9/11 Commission–the official investigation into the 9/11 attacks–stated that the black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 “were not found.” [16]

BLACK BOXES ARE PRACTICALLY INDESTRUCTABLE AND HAD ALWAYS BEEN FOUND AFTER PREVIOUS PLANE CRASHES
It is in fact reasonable to expect that all four black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 would have been recovered after 9/11, for a number of reasons. To begin with, a plane’s black boxes are virtually indestructible. They are made to survive extreme conditions. A part of them called the “crash survivable memory unit,” in which the data is stored, is housed in a shell made of immensely strong materials and can withstand a crash impact many times the force of gravity, heat of up to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit for one hour, and immersion in salt water for at least 30 days. [17]

Furthermore, the black boxes on the planes that were hijacked on September 11 were modern solid-state models, which are more resistant to damage than older magnetic tape recorders. [18] The black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 should therefore have survived the crashes on September 11 and the collapses of the World Trade Center towers.

Additionally, experts have clearly indicated that recovery workers should have been able to find the black boxes in the rubble of the World Trade Center. NTSB spokesman Ted Lopatkiewicz commented on the alleged failure to find the devices, saying, “I can’t recall another domestic case in which we did not recover the recorders.” [19]

And veteran air crash investigator Dale Leppard said he was “quite surprised” when he heard the claim that no black boxes were found at the World Trade Center site. He noted that although the site was “a big mess” in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, a plane’s black boxes are “very distinctive.” “They’re bright orange color and they’re very easy to see,” he said. When asked, “Have you ever been to a scene or heard of a scene where the black boxes were not recovered?” Leppard replied: “I have not. … Never once.” He said the odds of going to the scene of a crash and being unable to find the black boxes there were “almost zero.” [20]

Leppard has extensive relevant experience and so his opinion on this matter is particularly notable. He has been involved in aviation accident investigation since 1965, and has won several awards for his accident investigation and reconstruction activities. He has assisted the NTSB with over 25 field investigations and helped with the reconstruction of over 100 accidents. He has served as chairman of the Air Line Pilots Association National Accident Investigation Board and chairman of the International Federation of Air Line Pilots’ Associations Accident Analysis Committee. [21]

It is also worth noting that, in contrast to the alleged failure to find the black boxes from Flights 11 and 175, the black boxes from American Airlines Flight 77–the plane that reportedly crashed into the Pentagon on September 11–and United Airlines Flight 93–which supposedly crashed in a field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, on September 11–were recovered within three days of the 9/11 attacks. [22]

THE FBI TOLD A RECOVERY WORKER HE SHOULDN’T TALK ABOUT THE DISCOVERY OF THE BLACK BOXES
If the black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 were recovered, we need to consider why the discoveries went unreported when they occurred and authorities have, in the years since 9/11, claimed that no black boxes were found at the World Trade Center site.

As well as denying that the black boxes were found, government officials instructed witnesses to keep quiet about the discoveries, according to Mike Bellone. Bellone said he “had a visit from an FBI agent that said I shouldn’t discuss the matter” of the recovery of the black boxes. When he asked why he should keep quiet, the agent told him: “It’s something that we really shouldn’t discuss right now. You really shouldn’t talk about it.” [23]

And yet this behavior appears to make no sense. Dave Lindorff commented: “Why would the main intelligence and law enforcement arm of the U.S. government want to hide from the public not just the available information about the two hijacked flights that provided the motivation and justification for the nation’s ‘war on terror,’ and for its two wars against Afghanistan and Iraq, but even the fact that it has the devices which could contain that information?” [24] In other words, why would the government suppress information that should have strengthened its case for fighting the “war on terror”?

The accounts of people who said they recovered black boxes at the World Trade Center site or were told that a signal from a black box had been detected at the site give rise to a lot of questions. Why, for example, did FBI agents say the object found at Pier 25 wasn’t a black box, especially considering that they initially said it appeared to be a black box and they had no obvious reason to change their assessment?

And if the agents genuinely believed the object wasn’t a black box, why did they prevent William Keegan from throwing it onto a barge to be transported to the Fresh Kills landfill and instead take it away with them? A possible explanation for their behavior is that they did indeed think the object was a black box, but they had been told that if any of the black boxes were found, the discovery had to be kept quiet.

THE FAA MADE CONFLICTING CLAIMS ABOUT A POSSIBLE SIGNAL FROM A BLACK BOX
Also, why did the FAA say on September 21, 2001, that a signal from a plane’s black box was coming from World Trade Center Building 5 when it previously said the signal was coming from the corner of Liberty and Church Streets, a significant distance away from Building 5? Could the agency really have made such a major error about where the signal was coming from?

And why did the FAA employee(s) responsible for finding the black boxes at Ground Zero leave work so early that day? Surely they would have wanted to be available to assist the recovery workers who were searching for a black box in the new location, especially since the workers may have been on the verge of retrieving one of the crucial devices.

The police officers who searched for a black box on the roof of Building 5 clearly seem to have found this odd. According to author Anthea Appel, they complained to each other, “We’ve been workin’ every day for 16 or 17 hours straight with no days off and here we are, inches away from the black box, and the FAA just get up and leave in the middle of a recovery just because they don’t wanna screw up their weekend!” [25]

Furthermore, why was it reported on September 25, 2001, that the FAA had been unable to detect a signal from a black box at Ground Zero, even though the agency previously told recovery workers the locations where a signal had been detected? Might it be because, by that time, the black box that emitted the signal had been recovered, but FAA personnel had been instructed to cover this fact up and act as if no black boxes had been found?

INFORMATION ON THE BLACK BOXES MAY BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY
If the black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 were found, a possible reason why this fact has been concealed is that the information on the devices is inconsistent with what is supposed to have happened on September 11, according to the official account of the 9/11 attacks. But if this is the reason, why were the discoveries of the black boxes from the two other planes that were hijacked on September 11–Flights 77 and 93–openly reported and never officially denied, when the information on these devices might also be inconsistent with the official account of the attacks?

A possible explanation is that the people who planned the 9/11 attacks would ideally have liked to have claimed, after September 11, that none of the black boxes from the four hijacked planes were retrieved, since the information stored on the devices could, if made public, lead some people to question the official account of the attacks. They determined, however, that it would appear incredible and suspicious if it was claimed that no black boxes were found at the Pentagon and in Shanksville. At these crash sites, the devices would endure less severe conditions than would occur at the World Trade Center.

The planners of the attacks could have decided they would at least be able to get away with claiming that no black boxes were found in the rubble of the World Trade Center, since the loss of the black boxes from Flights 11 and 175 would seem plausible, at least to the average member of the public. Considering the massive destruction that would occur when the World Trade Center towers collapsed and the huge amount of debris that would be created, they assumed it could be convincingly suggested that the black boxes were destroyed or lost.

DETAILS OF WHAT IS ON THE BLACK BOXES FROM FLIGHTS 77 AND 93 MAY HAVE BEEN SUPPRESSED
It is worth noting that although the recoveries of the black boxes from Flights 77 and 93 were openly reported and never denied, evidence suggests there may have been efforts to cover up the details of what is stored on some of these devices. For example, the cockpit voice recorder from Flight 77 was said to be “badly burned and not recoverable” in the 9/11 Commission Report. [26] And yet, since black boxes are virtually indestructible, this claim seems dubious. Government sources in fact told CBS News something different: that Flight 77’s cockpit voice recorder appeared to be “blank or erased.” [27]

And while a transcript of the cockpit voice recording from Flight 93 was released in 2006, the audio from Flight 93’s cockpit voice recorder has never been made available to the general public, reportedly because “it would be broadcast repeatedly, something family members of those killed [on Flight 93] have objected to.” [28]

If there has indeed been a concerted effort to conceal details about the information stored on the black boxes from Flights 77 and 93, a possible reason for the cover-up is that the information is inconsistent with the official account of the 9/11 attacks and so, if it was made public, this could lead people to question that account.

THE NTSB REPORTEDLY EXAMINED THE BLACK BOXES FROM FLIGHTS 11 AND 175
In light of the contradictions between the accounts of black boxes being recovered at the World Trade Center site and the official claim that no black boxes were found at the site, there is clearly a need to investigate what happened to the black boxes from Flight 11 and Flight 175 more closely.

If these devices were indeed recovered, we need to know what information is stored on them. Dave Lindorff was told by his source at the NTSB, “We worked on them [the black boxes from Flights 11 and 175] here.” [29] If this is true, the NTSB presumably has records of what information is on the black boxes, which could be released to the public.

The information on the devices would surely give us a better understanding of what happened on September 11, 2001. And it might indicate that the truth about the terrorist attacks that day is very different from what we were led to believe.

NOTES
[1] “The Tech Behind Black Boxes.” TechTV, September 14, 2001; Brian Dakss, “Speed Likely Factor in WTC Collapse.” CBS News, February 25, 2002; “Anatomy of a Jetliner.” PBS, February 17, 2004.
[2] Jon Hilkevitch, “Flight Recorders Could Answer Key Questions.” Chicago Tribune, September 14, 2001; “The Tech Behind Black Boxes”; “FBI Analyzing Voice, Data Recorders From Two Flights.” Associated Press, September 15, 2001; “Anatomy of a Jetliner.”
[3] William Keegan Jr. with Bart Davis, Closure: The Untold Story of the Ground Zero Recovery Mission. New York: Touchstone, 2006, p. 94.
[4] Ibid.
[5] Richard T. Pienciak, “Anguished Search for Traces of the Missing.” New York Daily News, January 6, 2002.
[6] William Keegan Jr. with Bart Davis, Closure, pp. 94-96.
[7] “World Trade Center Plane Crash.” New York State Emergency Management Office, September 18, 2001, p. 1.
[8] Susan Sachs, “At the Site, Little Hope of Uncovering Survivors.” New York Times, September 19, 2001.
[9] Anthea Appel, The First Responders: The Untold Story of the New York City Police Department & September 11th, 2001. InnerCircle Publishing, 2009, pp. 281-282.
[10] “Situation Report #27.” New York City Office of Emergency Management, September 25, 2001, pp. 17-18.
[11] Paul J. Kern, “AMC: Accelerating the Pace of Transformation.” Army Magazine, February 2002; Dan Caterinicchia, “Lessons Worth Remembering.” FCW, September 16, 2002.
[12] Gail Swanson, Behind the Scenes, Ground Zero, World Trade Center, September 11, 2001: A Collection of Personal Accounts. New York: TRAC Team, 2003, p. 108.
[13] Will Bunch, “9/11 ‘Black Box’ Cover-Up at Ground Zero?” Philadelphia Daily News, October 28, 2004; “9/11.” Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura, truTV, December 9, 2009.
[14] “9/11.”
[15] Will Bunch, “9/11 ‘Black Box’ Cover-Up at Ground Zero?”; Dave Lindorff, “9/11: Missing Black Boxes in World Trade Center Attacks Found by Firefighters, Analyzed by NTSB, Concealed by FBI.” CounterPunch, December 19, 2005.
[16] 9/11 Commission, The 9/11 Commission Report: Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 2004, p. 456.
[17] “The Tech Behind Black Boxes”; “Setback Over Pittsburgh Black Box.” BBC News, September 15, 2001.
[18] Jon Hilkevitch, “Flight Recorders Could Answer Key Questions.”
[19] Brian Dakss, “Speed Likely Factor in WTC Collapse.”
[20] “9/11.”
[21] “Personal Record of Dale L. Leppard.” Experts.com, n.d.; “Dale L. Leppard (Leppard Forensic Reconstruction).” JurisPro, n.d.
[22] “‘Black Boxes’ Found at Pentagon.” Washington Times, September 14, 2001; Matthew P. Smith, “Flight 93 Voice Recorder Found in Somerset County Crash Site.” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, September 15, 2001.
[23] “9/11.”
[24] Dave Lindorff, “9/11: Missing Black Boxes in World Trade Center Attacks Found by Firefighters, Analyzed by NTSB, Concealed by FBI.”
[25] Anthea Appel, The First Responders, p. 282.
[26] Brian Dakss, “Speed Likely Factor in WTC Collapse”; 9/11 Commission, The 9/11 Commission Report, p. 456.
[27] “Feds Would Have Shot Down Pa. Jet.” CBS News, September 12, 2001.
[28] Phil Hirschkorn, “On Tape, Passengers Heard Trying to Retake Cockpit.” CNN, April 13, 2006; Neil A. Lewis, “Final Struggles on 9/11 Plane Fill Courtroom.” New York Times, April 13, 2006.
[29] Dave Lindorff, “9/11: Missing Black Boxes in World Trade Center Attacks Found by Firefighters, Analyzed by NTSB, Concealed by FBI.”

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  • Charlie Primero

    Americans do not want to know the Truth about 9/11.

    If they did, they could spend 20 hours on Google and find a good approximation of it, …less time than is needed for researching a typical term paper.

    Hours since 9/11 happened: 13,000 …”Can’t spare it mi Bru”.

    This LULZ video illustrates why:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX68N0OLYPQ

    • nomadfiles

      That’s not really a fair cross section. The beach is where stupid people hang out.

      • David S

        You would get equally ignorant comments from state fairs in the midwest, GOP county conventions in Texas, college campuses, and pretty much anywhere else you went in this country. The beach is where you go to beat the heat and enjoy the water. Stupid people hang out EVERYWHERE.

        • nomadfiles

          er…yeah i know.
          it was a joke, david

    • David S

      The propaganda (LIES) from the Bush administration and their accomplices in the mainstream media worked exactly as planned. The sheep lapped it up and still believe the lies to this day.

      And of course, the terrorist leader responsible for the 9-11 attacks was Dick Cheney and his side kick George W. Bush (with a lot of assistance from the “Deep State”, the NSA, the Saudis, the Israelis, and others).

  • Sep 5, 2016 – 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers. It is no wonder, then, that the Fire Department of New York so passionately detest Giuliani for his actions in disgracing their fallen brothers and covering up the 9/11 crime.

    https://youtu.be/Cl85JSvDmsA

  • May 25, 2014 FDNY 9/11 Survivor Witness and Whistleblower Speaks on WTC 7

    Listen very carefully starting at the ’20’ second mark! As a firefighter on 9/11, he was at Ground Zero and was there when Building 7 came down.

    https://youtu.be/ePPdUUISQOs?list=UUhwwoeOZ3EJPobW83dgQfAg

  • Larry Velasco

    I saw some pretty convincing footage of the planes hitting the two towers. It looked like a cartoon when the plane hit the buildings. No way could an airplane hit a tower and go completely through and come out the other side with the nose in tact. Also, the object that went into the Pentagon was round and clean. If it had wings, where did they go? Too many different things don’t add up. I would not put it past OUR crooked government to do something as terrible as this. Think about it. Go to No Plane Hit Twin Towers.