$25,000 REWARD FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO EXPOSURE OF FALSE FLAG AT ORLANDO

By guest author, Thomas Paine. Washington’s Blog has previously documented false flag attacks are a usual expression of government to manipulate policy, with at least 53 admitted by governments (site search results on false flag). I’ve covered the use of crisis actors to play a role to manipulate public opinion here, here, here. The crucial element in false flags with crisis actors is a contrived lie to herd the public to support policy centered in wars that are Orwellian illegal, and ongoing history of US lie-started wars for empire.

The Huffington Post Bloggers Club is offering up to $25,000 for hard evidence that the June 12 Orlando massacre was staged (consider here, here).

The attack fits the same pattern observed dozens of times over the last several years; in particulars, the summary execution of the suspect and disbelief of those who knew him best, including his family.

Yet again, the timing of the attack combined with the demographic of the alleged victims and the demographic of the alleged gunman, dovetail too well with the domestic and geopolitical agendas in Washington. The Orlando shooting is simply perfect for at least six top priorities of the Obama regime:

We seek documents, videos and other material showing that actors rehearsed this incident and/or the alleged victims are not real people.  What ever you have, we are interested.  You don’t have to identify yourself, encryption is fine and we can pay in bitcoin.

If, on the other hand, you have proof that we are mistaken, that the massacre was real as advertised by the media, we would also like to see it. Contact us at http://hpub.org

Carl Herman note: Two short videos to initiate credibility that this was a false flag event:

30-second video of a “wounded” man in the right thigh being carried past cameras, then apparently after the team think they’re off-camera, simply dropping the “wounded” man back to the ground!

6-minute video of this same “wounded” man, along with several other “wounded” being carried directly toward the “shooting” scene! Consider the following two explanations:

For the official story to be true, that means:

  • these “wounded” were carried away from the shooting, then carried back to the shooting,
  • it was just a coincidence the camera was there and for some reason the purpose for carrying ended just off-camera,
  • it was a good idea the “wounded” person should then be standing on his own after having been carried,
  • ambulances were coincidentally off-camera.

For a false flag/orchestrated event to be true:

  • the scene was closed by officials with a camera set for the best shots,
  • “fedora hat man” was costumed in an American flag shirt,
  • crisis actors were paraded past the camera,
  • there is no concern for returning to the shooting zone despite eye-witness reports of multiple gunmen because at least this aspect of the event is staged,
  • there’s no concern for jostling gunshot victims to cause greater injuries and bleeding because these particular people are crisis actors staging a camera shot.

Which of these two explanations make more sense to you?

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  • Carl_Herman

    Thanks to the bold move by Huffington Post Bloggers Club!

    • quantumcipher

      Anyone who takes them up on the offer likely wouldn’t live long enough to enjoy the bounty they receive, and more likely would receive more from the USG in hush money, thus negating the incentive entirely.

      • Carl_Herman

        Fear-monger much, quantum cipher?

        Gee, you sound rather enthusiastic to stop any evidence being sent. Why is that?

  • kimyo

    false flag attacks can employ fake victims/crisis actors. sometimes, though, they don’t: 9/11, pearl harbor.

    the wording of the text above implies that orlando was EITHER faked by actors OR an act of ‘real’ terrorism.

    the third possibility is that it was a government sponsored act, with real victims.

    i don’t know the relationship between the ‘huffpostbloggersclub’ and the huffington post, but if they are closely intertwined then i suspect this reward is an effort to block the exposition of this crime as being the handiwork of our government. no reward = crazy conspiracy theorists, wrong again…..

    • Carl_Herman

      The HP “bloggers club” are those who HP removed for being too truthful.

      Visit the site to verify their topics.

      • kimyo

        thanks. i should have googled before typing.

    • gingercake5
    • quantumcipher

      It was more likely an act of state-sponsored / false flag terror with an exaggerated number of casualties, as we saw with Paris, and another tragedy in history that shall remain nameless.

  • Robert McMaster

    There must have been a lot of video taken inside, on scene. Now that will be interesting.

  • diogenes

    This is excellent. Now we need one to expose the massive rigging of the California Democratic Primary.

    • truthtime

      Lol fat chance in hell. There are useful idiots that STILL think Election Rigging is just conspiracy “theory” – the catch all handwavium. Hell, one can go on Wikipedia and read all about Lyndon B Johnson whose middle name should be Conspiracy and what a know a blurb that he was likely involved with Rigging. And that was decades ago.

      The fact is Humans have always had the capability to commit conspiracy. Its been done for thousands of years.

      • gingercake5

        And he was involved in offing his boss, too

    • Hillary did it.

  • Demonocracy

    It’s already been exposed as a false flag by many sources. It’s a pretty small sum to divide $25,000 between the perpetrators admission of these facts.

    • gingercake5

      What, only $25,000?

      • Brockland A.T.

        Enough to draw someone(s) out (to be silenced) and away from the indie media, but not enough to entice freelance cons into faking evidence just to collect.

        $25000 wouldn’t quite cover a venue and crisis actors; can you imagine how cheap such a production would look?

  • FreddyB

    Considering most people in the club would have the ability to capture
    video we should be seeing piles of videos already but I have zero doubt
    we will see very little if any which lends credibility to a false flag.
    All videos will be confiscated by LEO’s to never see the light of day
    again. Watch for all kinds of excuses coming out as to why videos can
    not be released and yet FBI released video LaVoy shooting pretty damn
    fast.
    Interesting to see how this story morphs over the next few days, as false flags always do until the story sits well with the majority of people.

    • Demonocracy

      It’s really hard to shoot video pointing your smartphone while your trying to run for your life and stay alive.

      • Math & Physics

        A claim of first hand experience from an internet poster, how unique, NOT!!

        • HanzP

          Need some free help? Here you go:

          Fallacy: Straw Man

          Description of Straw Man

          The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person’s actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of “reasoning” has the following pattern:

          Person A has position X.
          Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
          Person B attacks position Y.
          Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
          This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.
          Source: nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

          • Math & Physics

            Incorrect, FreddyB says, paraphrased ‘statistically someone would have caught video’ (person A pos X)
            Demonocrazy(person B) says pos X is not possible, b/c of his first hand exp of being shot at and not being able to take video (pos Y).
            Person B attacked pos X, by claiming pos Y. Pos Y is invalid, b/c not everyone is a coward like person B.
            You simply want to believe Demonocrazy has a valid point, w/o a point reference to his claim.

          • HanzP

            Lol!

          • HanzP

            Straw family now…

          • Demonocracy

            Where did I say it was impossible?

            Try taking reading classes.

          • Macon Richardson

            Where did Math & Physics say you said it was impossible?

            Try speaking from experience, not from speculation.

      • cindy

        Yet a manager, or someone working within Pulse was able to type out a facebook message stating “Everyone get out of Pulse and Keep Running.” Let’s also not forget those texts we’ve read from a few of a victims. Sorry, if you can type, you can and would take pictures.

        • Jesse Farmer

          Right. There were people hiding. This was a club with many rooms and dance floors and bars and bathrooms. Over the course of hours. No one tried to document anything?

          No one tried to document the first responders. The huge triage area. The brigade of ambulances.

          It’s dumb.

      • Jesse Farmer

        No it’s not. And this took place over hours. There were people known to be hiding in bathrooms.

        No one documented anything?

        Come on. It’s not even worth discussing. It’s completely absurd.

      • sINCORED

        There would be many videos if this was real-not all good but at least some bad videos, lots of them

      • mt

        But they had time to tweet,text,facebook

      • Twisk

        Today, there are cameras everywhere. They need those, especially in a bar where brawls can happen any minute, and you need to have images ready for the police in case it does.
        Sorry. If there was anything, something should be on film.

        • Kwokka_54

          and yet who’s controlling what video gets released, or not? Sandy hook had CCTV’s everywhere too. They should have released at least ONE FRAME of this Lanza character, if not several seconds, why not? And yet precisely ZERO images caught out of there. Since it wasn’t Sandy Hook but Sandy Hoax.

    • Victor Pontbriand

      YES where is it?

  • Anon

    Here’s an interesting piece of evidence /pol/ found: cops carrying victims *towards* the nightclub.

    https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1465777605686.webm

  • Just Watching

    Thread on GLP a month ago on May 6th predicting…

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3171293/pg1

  • MrLiberty

    Sometimes real people die in “orchestrated” events. Operation Northwoods was a plan by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to murder Americans and blow up stuff and blame the crimes on Cubans so as to justify invading and overthrowing Castro. Operation Gladdio really occurred and lots of people really died – all perpetrated by government operatives. WE ARE JUST means to their ends. Our deaths mean nothing to these people. Just look at all the millions they help kill all over the globe in the wars that profit them so much. Wake up America. The domestic terrorists were elected by you.

  • joe

    This is all staged and it bears the mark of all the other staged events..I hope the day when the perpetrators who are destroying this country and its Constitution will soon be arrested and brought to justice…

  • Strayhorse

    The reward should be $1,000,000 or more. What’s the lives of 50 people and the true story of the FBI and CIA’s involvement in a false flag attack on Amricans worth?

    • Carl_Herman

      Great! Are you offering to add to the reward money?

    • Macon Richardson

      If fifty died.

  • Atrax morgue
    • Thanks for sharing. This was on the channel as well. Jun 14, 2016 100% PROOF Orlando Shooting Was a STAGED HOAX…This Is All You Need To See

      ***PLEASE MIRROR THIS VIDEO***

      This is the only video you need to see to know that this whole Orlando Shooting was Nothing but a STAGED HOAX orchestrated by a Criminal Government.

      https://youtu.be/wiLk-V9DFpc

      • Atrax morgue

        Excellent!! Thank you!

        • Ben Franklin said it best, “We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.” Benjamin Franklin

      • Joy3141

        Look at google maps. these people are in front of radio shack – notice black iron fence, across from dunkin donuts. Radio shack is caddy corner from the pulse parking lot – not as far as video makes it look. they are carrying people to the Wendy’s across the street from the pulse because that’s where they were triaging people, and that’s where the ambulances were picking people up. there weren’t enough ambulances for all the victims, some were being taken in cars and trucks. These people likely scattered as far as they could, in shock and in panic and in fight or flight mode, when they escaped the club, and are now trying to get to where they can get medical help. Saying these are actors and it is staged is completely fucking ridiculous.

        • Keep on keeping on! Joy3141 – 8 comments • 13 votes

        • ICFubar

          Please provide proof that Wendy’s was the triage site and that emergency personnel and ambulances were transporting the truly injured from there. I also question why it took the police three hours before entering the building with 53 injured, no doubt calling for help if seriously wounded. Three hours allows a lot of time to bleed out from what would be a non lethal wounding. I’m not saying your comment is in error but I want definitive proof that the official story line and what you have stated are actual fact as these “mass casualty producing events” have in the past been shown to be the product of conspiratorial planning to effect support for policy that would otherwise be rejected by the public..

          • sINCORED

            I have seen NO TRIAGE sites, not at the Pulse or at the hospital, 1/8 mi away

          • ICFubar

            I tend to agree, but now we have “witnesses” that say there were multiple shooters….could this be the SWAT team when they finally entered the building as this would indeed be multiple shooters making these “witnesses statements not totally false? Or are these statements just confusing the issue on purpose? It will be interesting to see if further arrest(s) are made or if further suspects are shot dead? As far as I am concerned the number one suspect is the American government and the criminal element within the security surveillance agencies.

        • cindy

          I’m not seeing any fight or flight response. They are laughing after they set the red shoe guy down.

        • Carl_Herman

          Joy3141: let’s consider your tone and context first. Do you agree that the documentation in the article you comment upon demonstrates a history of admitted false flag attacks? Therefore, how is it “fucking ridiculous” to consider if this event is in at least some aspects a false flag?

          Next let’s consider your unsubstantiated claims: where is your documentation for a triage and evacuation from across the street? What, people are just supposed to believe you?

          Finally: is it “fucking ridiculous” these are actors when in the 30-second video we see men carry a “wounded” man past a camera, then drop him to his feet and chuckle?

  • desertspeaks

    they seem to have removed the 50k offer!

  • FredJ11

    Just the fact that it took the cops more than three hours to crash the place should tell you this was some kind of inside job. A real lone gunman scenario, a real non inside job would have never included such a generous time window to the shooter to carry out his massacre

  • Fuck yeah

    good shit!

  • Robert Blazjs

    this article is disrespectful to the people that died.

    • Carl_Herman

      Please read the link of the history of false flag attacks, then answer how rational it is to conclude this is the work of terrorists apart from a government operation.

    • Macon Richardson

      Maybe so. . .if people died.

    • desertspeaks

      do you have any firsthand irrefutable evidence that anyone died? NOPE! moving on.

    • Robert Blazjs – 27 comments • 4 votes

  • Brockland A.T.

    That’s a peculiar offer. Anyone holding such evidence might be better off distributing it to different independent news outlets anonymously, not just HP. Then collect if it leads to an exposure.

    Otherwise, it looks like an invitation to the memory hole.

    • Carl_Herman

      That’s a good point; thank you, Brockland. I agree with your position.

      • Brockland A.T.

        Thank you. That the offer was made, does make one wonder; are they just fishing for loose ends, or is there something definitive to be found.

  • ICFubar

    As Desi would say…”someones got some splainin’ to do”. No ambulances and no bodies or seriously injured spells trouble for the official story line. I viewed a cell phone video supposedly from inside the club online wherein the supposed shooting begins. We can hear four or five pops…pop pop pop pop. Now unless this was a suppressed firearm, in such an enclosed space the the sound would not be a pop but a deafening BLAM BLAM BLAM, blocking out all other sounds. That is why firearm users wear ear protection.

  • Louis Lewis

    Only a couple wounded shown on tv. Of course they pass by the camera for the ‘money shot,’ while no ambulances are around, no cops/firefighters help them. Then after they pass by the camera, they put the wounded dude down and they all walk off together. Probably to go spend that $$$ that Homeland Security paid them.
    What a hoax. Only the insane/ignorant sheep believe this crap. I saw Matt Liar (Lauer) ‘interviewing’ the ‘owner’ of the club. Probably a jew broad, as usual. She stopped the interview a couple of times to ‘cry’ without tears. Horrid actor.

  • ICFubar

    As Desi would say “someones got some splainin’ to do”. No bodies. no seriously injured and no ambulances does raise some serious questions. One anomaly I noticed was from a cell phone video supposedly taken inside the Pulse club at the moment the supposed shooting begins. We can hear the sound of a low level ” rack rack rack rack”. Now unless this was a suppressed firearm the sound should have been a deafening BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM blocking out all other sounds in this enclosed space by many magnitudes. It would be interesting to hear a cell phone recording at a comparable distance of an AR 15 being fired to compare the sounds. This is why firearm users wear hearing protection when at the firing range. Also odd is how this video came into the public domain so quickly as the owner was supposedly gunned down in this supposed mass casualty producing event. One would think all such devices would be held by the authorities to aid in their investigation? Video inside club begins at the 0:15 second mark.

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/video-shows-moment-gunfire-erupts-inside-orlando-gay-nightclub-1.2943488

    • desertspeaks

      and the hospital “CLAIMS” to have all these shooting victims.. HOW THE HELL DID THEY GET TO THE HOSPITAL?? not by ambulance! did they walk there through the alley because they sure as hell didn’t come out the front door!

      • ICFubar

        good point.

        • desertspeaks

          another few points, the cops had the place surrounded, do you see any video of the wounded being brought out of the club? NOPE! NOT ONE SINGLE ALLEGED VICTIM BEING BROUGHT OUT OF THE CLUB! Oh maybe, all the wounded scrambled out of the club in the direction of the hospital which is a little over a mile away from the club, all within the 5 minutes it took for the cops/media to show up?? “with the exception of the four or five wounded that hung around for HOURS to get on tv???”
          Further, the police “claim” that they brought the dead out “hours” later. After the three hours they waited to storm the club.. um, where is the video of bringing out 50 dead bodies? What morgue is equipped to handle 50 dead bodies? Where did they take them?

          • ICFubar

            All very good points that us peons would like answered, but I doubt that we will, as this botched exercise seems to be falling apart very quickly under a barrage of questions and observations from the citizens.

          • cindy

            Let’s hope so. I’m starting to feel like it’s a waste of time. Since 911, we have raised valid points over multiple scenarios, yet we are considered the crazy conspiracy theorists. Propaganda is powerful, and many people don’t have the time, the intelligence, nor the inclination to use critical thinking or reasoning skills. It disheartens me, and I worry for the future, which is, of course, what they want us to do. They want us to be afraid because it makes us weak. I’m not worried about me, but I do worry for future generations. They’re screwed.

          • ICFubar

            Your not considered a conspiracy theorist within the “awake” community. A healthy skepticism is the prerequisite of a concerned citizen, so just be glad you are fulfilling your role as a citizen and as a knowledge seeking adult. This will rub off on those around you to some extent but do teach your children well as the old song goes. Your comments here were well thought out and quite reasonable considering the past history of American governance. Don’t give up the faith as if any of us could. Chin up…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVaqZajq-I

          • ICFubar

            found this in in box from friend:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pT0L8caLnQ

          • Jesse Farmer

            We’ve come a long way. I remember being a long voice for a LONG time. There are turning points, in the collective consciousness.

            Loose Change
            Aurora
            Sandy Hook
            Boston
            Orlando???

            Fight on.

          • Jesse Farmer

            There should be footage of every single one of them being taken out.

      • cindy

        On the news last night, they showed a picture of a doctors bloody tennis shoes with a quote by the doctor saying he personally attended to all 53 wounded club goers, and he was so sad because he wasn’t sure which of the 53 had attributed to the blood on his shoes. I was like “Wow! You attended to every single one of the wounded? You must be some doctor!”

        • Jesse Farmer

          Nice way to control the info too. 1 guy. It’s like Orlando Police Twitter: ONLY INFO FROM THIS TWITTER PAGE IS REAL. IGNORE ALL OTHER INFO.

        • sINCORED

          That is a lie, there would be teams of MDs triaging over 100 people (on top of their regular work, which still has to be done)

  • Reality

    I see there was a sale on tinfoil lately…

    • Carl_Herman

      You call yourself “Reality” and fail to address any facts. Really, Reality, you’ll really have the realtiy you care to work for.

      That’s real, and yours to own.

    • Nancy Drew

      No shortage of blindfolds…

      • Brockland A.T.

        Kind of makes you not want to walk out the door without a Go-Pro or bodycam. You know, just to be on the safe side.

    • Macon Richardson

      And an increase in the sale of blindfolds.

  • bookwench

    I watched a lot of coverage of this event on Sunday and saw nothing that looked real in any way – I was actually in shock at how many times the “news” repeatedly aired that footage of the wounded being set down to walk – it’s as if they can’t even be bothered to fake things like they mean it any more – we’re that duped as a society that they can pass this crap off as genuine – it’s pathetic. Real footage of a real event like this one would show activity for God’s sake – people all over doing emergency related things – no such footage exists that I saw for Orlando – these people are in a vacuum or something and none of them seem too rushed or upset at all. Plus we have the entire story of the shooter in no time at all – conveniently he was already on the FBI’s radar so that his entire back story could come out almost simultaneously with news of the event. And he’s dead, of course. C’mon. We have gays, guns and Muslims – a perfect combo for stirring up meaningless debate in an election year.

    Finally, please please stop saying that these False Flags are intended to take away guns when every single time they happen, gun sales go UP – and no reform goes through. It’s about dividing people on social issues and stirring up controversy and fear so that no one pays attention to the crimes of our own government.

    • Twisk

      Bravo for saying this is NOT about gun control – while it is probably connected to selling yet more guns while fanning divisions, a win-win for the various lobbies that pass for a government in the USA.
      The fact they sell more guns after each mass shooting has not escaped them. No way of making a penny ever escapes them.
      Right now, the stock market is making a feast out of the murder of a British MP, so go figure…
      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-16/stocks-sterling-surge-after-british-mps-death

      • WeNoLongerBelieveOrAidThem!

        Probably a fake story.

    • Oil exectutive

      I couldn’t agree more. they are brainwashing people and desensitizing them of violence

    • WeNoLongerBelieveOrAidThem!

      They’re probably getting worried about being arrested for helping in the lies, fraud, hoaxes, donations theft, and tax theft scams.

  • June 13, 2016 – Multiple suspects on the lose in Orlando; total media blackout of eyewitness accounts

    One eyewitness to the attack, who was inside the nightclub when it happened, was giving his testimony to the attack, after being trapped inside the club, live on-air, to a mainstream news source when he was abruptly cut off after providing a crucial detail. The eyewitness said that during the attack “there was a guy there that was trying to […] hold the door closed so that we couldn’t exit,” as pointed out by an investigative reporter on YouTube.

    http://www.govtslaves.info/multiple-suspects-on-the-lose-in-orlando-total-media-blackout-of-eyewitness-accounts/

  • This never happened 57 years ago. Sarc/off! Dec 9, 2015 US & Britain Planned Use of Islamic Extremists to Topple Syria ’57’ Years Ago

    BBC reports that – in 1957 – the British and American leaders approved the use of Islamic extremists and false flag attacks to topple the Syrian government: Nearly 50 years before the war in Iraq, Britain and America sought a secretive “regime change” in another Arab country by planning the invasion of Syria and the assassination of leading figures.

    https://youtu.be/57Qk0wEPZWE

  • If it were me I would begin here. June 08, 2016 FBI Running ‘Hundreds’ of ISIS Sting Operations

    Insist They’re Not Going to Wait for Suspect to ‘Mobilize on His Own Time’. If you’re a fake bomb-maker for the FBI or one of those informants who poses as an ISIS recruiter online, business is definitely booming, as continued pushes for more “terror” arrests have dramatically escalated the problem, with the FBI admitting “hundreds” of such sting operation are now ongoing.

    http://news.antiwar.com/2016/06/08/fbi-running-hundreds-of-isis-sting-operations/

  • Jun 14, 2016 The “Fog of Breaking News” in Orlando Yes, but there’s always more.

    https://youtu.be/rfufT0F-4_A

  • Alberto

    Just like Boston Marathon and Newtown THERE ARE NO AMBULANCES on site after multiple casualty incident.

    • sINCORED

      I am a medical worker (40 yrs) including Navy Corpsman,
      this scene(s) in no way looks like a shooting where 100 people were shot,
      imagine how much blood would be spilled, and it would be tracked everywhere,
      on feet, clothing, etc.,
      yet this scene is extremely clean, streets are clean, the alleged site of the building (outside) looks clean, no tracks,
      what we see are lots of emergency lights and sirens-yet the scene has the pace of A drill,
      people milling around, walking around,
      clips of the same policemen/firemen in these 5-15 second clips that are shown over and over again,
      a handful (5) of injured people being carried by civilians that do not appear to be really injured in the way one would expect from a horrendous shooting (where are all the ambulances? The gurneys? The wheelchairs??? The hospital is 1/8th mile away! You don’t carry injured people like that if there are services available, especially in the direction of the Pulse crime scene!),
      but when you think of how involved a massacre of 50-100 people would be-you would see emergency personnel and injured patients all over the area, with scores of ambulances transporting these people, and the hospital would be an emergency disaster site with the same kind of appearance as they tried to deal with this many casualties in a space of a few hours, there would be hospital personnel transported to that location from all over the state to cope with this-but it all looks like a peaceful drill

      • Kwokka_54

        thank goodness there are people like you still willing to call them as you see them, and an experienced medical professional who could tell a faked scene from the real thing..trying to get through to people about these false-flags upon false flags is usually pointless, their years of brainwashing by the media has conditioned them to reject anything that upsets what the government media tells them. I honestly think its because people are afraid to accept that so much of media is just false-flag, government engineered lies since this would upset their feelings about EVERYTHING if they did.

  • LeseMajeste

    Anyone who’s seen a pic of that club from overhead, like the NYT has, would realize it’s way TOO BIG for only one shooter to control all the exits, including windows, corral 300+ people, talk on the cell to the
    9/11 center and still have time to wound and or kill over 100 people. They blew the staging of this incident Big Time.

    • Brockland A.T.

      Hmmmm. Blew it enough to offer $25000 for the goods?

  • Amanda Parker

    Has anyone compared pictures to the guy carrying the victim in burgandy shirt to the hospital victim who is ( the only victim i have seen across news sources) same guy who was in hospital bed in interview as well as a news conference today.

  • Snow

    Make up your minds. Did people die or not? You insipid tards say things like “actors”, “mannequins”, “hoax” , “false flag”. So which is it? Maybe it was just some idiot with an automatic rifle, in a long list of idiots with automatic rifles. If the “government” wants to take your guns, they will. You think your arsenal of AR-15’s is going to withstand the US Military who has a massive Army, Navy and Air Force, missiles, tanks, jets, nuclear subs, etc. The difference being no one has come for your guns, you racist idiots.. I actually hope they do though. Why should people who are stupid enough to believe this bigoted garbage have access to machine guns? The Gay agenda? This retardation is a clear output from the far right wing who are pushing their very own “agenda”. Who downvoted suspected terrorists restrictions from purchasing guns. That’s right, Conservitards did! They WANT crazy people to have guns. It fits their “agenda” perfectly!

    • I just use my mind

      First, machine guns are already illegal. Secondly, words like ‘actors, hoax, and false flag’ all make perfect sense if the event was in-fact staged. In order to stage a false-flag or hoax event you would need actors to play certain roles. Any amount of critical thinking would very easily eat through the MSM narrative of what “happened”, but you have to want to see the light before you can come out of the cave.

      The men and woman in the military swear an oath to the constitution, not the government. Most would never disarm a peaceful, law-abiding citizen much less the entire country. By creating panic that leads to war cries for grabbing guns, people willingly turn in their own protection in the name of ‘safety’. That is why these events seem to happen constantly. Not because they WANT crazy people to have guns, but because they WANT people to be afraid of the very tools that can protect them.

      As for people dying, a false-flag attack typically involves actual victims, though the perpetrator is someone from “within”, whereas a hoax typically does not result in any real victims, but uses actors and mannequins to play the role of the injured and deceased. I hope this helps.

  • Mark Meyers

    So much amateur coverage, so little time. Well, the best video so far I’ve seen is this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu0wh6LtmDE&app=desktop
    But I’m not a fan of the commentary. In any event, I find it to be pretty damning stuff.

  • I can understand why some say it’s a false flag. Not only does it further any number of agenda points for the government, sympathy for gays, an opportunity to redirect reasonable distrust of Muslims toward trying to whittle down the Second Amendment some more, but it’s got that big hallmark many domestic terrorist acts have: government fingerprints on the accused or his close family.

    These attacks are all carried out by two types of people it seems. The first kind has a handler, like the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber. These are morons, low level idiots the government entraps into trying to bomb us, ZOG gives them a dud bomb, then swoops in for the “rescue” or the arrest. This is how the FBI behaves domestically but such operations have a foreign starting point in those two cases. The other type of shooter or bomber is someone touched by the feds personally or their parents. The Boston bombers, their uncle worked with the State Department in some capacity. This guy’s father reportedly has a satellite TV show that beams in to Afghanistan for Voice of America, which is the State Department.

    The video of those homos carrying that one homo, then the injured guy just getting dropped down like nothing’s wrong with him is interesting.

  • RKS

    I don’t think they really have a case with the 2nd Amendment because most people feel the need to be armed now to protect themselves from lone crazed killers. All it does is create distrust in the public mind for govt and fuel conspiracy theories. The Islam card is weak at best.

    I think the NWO is failing. It’s only a matter of time before we can form strong enough militias to take down Zion. They know the game is up and are panicking. My advise is to just let it unravel. The more they shout Alah Akbar the more people know it’s a false flag. This is a great advert for the need to be armed. Thanks again Zion you’ve just shot your own foot!

  • I. c. weiner

    Just be careful you brainy intellectuals, this is so staged it’s almost as if they want you to know. There’s gonna be a time when detractors, and blogers will be rounded up got waking up the masses detained our just killed. You already mean nothing. Maybe this is just A ploy to separate the hero from the sheeple, you will be documented. You rabble rousers will the first to go. The majority of us will never know, or maybe we will have heard of ur natural death.

    • Carl_Herman

      Oh? And “be careful” how exactly?? You offer nothing but fear, I. c. weiner.

      Perhaps our job is to offer choice. Is yours to be silent in fear of being removed from this psychopathic domination?

      I have a better choice: think, speak, and act for justice. Demand arrests for the obvious crimes centered in war, money, and lies. With that result, all these ~100 or so false flags will have the minions safely protected to tell us the truth.

    • cindy

      I agree with you. They are saving our every key stroke. Still, it’s not going to prevent me from speaking what I feel is the truth. We still have the First Amendment, baby, but IF they take away our Second Amendment right (freedom to keep and bear arms), then we can just KISS our First Amendment right, the FREEDOM OF SPEECH good-bye.

      I post under an alias, but I’m not so naive to think that “THEY” don’t know who I am. I can’t believe that people so blindly accept the Patriot Act and blew off Edward Snowden’s warning to us, posting EVERYTHING on their “smart” phone, so that every nuance is recorded.

      I’m much too young to feel this old. If they round me up, I will bit off a penis if forced to sodomize one of these jags. Good Luck.

      • Cautious Guest

        Edward Snowden was a limited hangout.

  • Cassandra Keller Burroughs

    Orlando has had many night club shootings, the most recent in Feb 2016. There was plenty of cell phone footage and real people who were shot and killed. The Orlando police were not friendly or helpful.
    Nor was the community reaching out to the victims families. Not one report on how brave the patrons were for helping fellow patrons out of the club. Not one shot of people being carried or directed to safety. Grant it, it wasn’t a mass shooting, two dead and ten injured, enough to spark media attention, but there wasn’t any. There were ambulances on the scene, but not the sudden appearance of the FBI. It was treated as a normal crime scene and with minimum reporting. In other words just another nightclub shooting with little if any information. The story went away in three days time. No major coverage, no heroes, no money shot. It does seem fishy that there is footage from inside on the club from a patrons cell phone, but none from the mass shooting that happened recently. Also that the community was so struck and sad that services were held and people gathered withing a matter of days and hours. So odd.

  • Brigid Steed

    Anyone notice that on the Pulse FB page they posted for everyone to get out and run at 1:09 am?? And the off duty officer working that responded to the shots that occurred at the onset of the event which occurred at 2:00 am? Plus, no one is staying the OBVIOUS here! It’s a BAR!! To get in the bar, EVERYONE should have an ID on their person – so why is it that “bodies” couldn’t be identified??? I’ve posted screen shots of the FB and news article.

    • KC

      facebook time stamps depend where you are at the time of viewing. are you by chance and hour behind orlando time?

  • cindy

    Where is the media on the scene? Tell me that Orlando news outlets do not listen to Police Scanners. We didn’t hear anything about this until well after it was over, yet if it were a fire, for example, there would have been helicopters on the scene immediately, even at two in the morning.

    • Cassandra Keller Burroughs

      ndy: This is from Facebook , searching for Orlando Police Scanners

      Sheila Martin

      June 12 at 1:22pm ·

      Wanted to post the Orlando police scanner
      audio from the shooting and wouldn’t you know it, the shooting started
      at 2 AM and the hours between 12 AM and 3 AM are MISSING from the
      archive. Unheard of. The day prior is shown as a comparison, where all
      archives were there as they should be.” this is posted on facebook

  • Cassandra Keller Burroughs

    To Cindy: This is from Facebook , searching for Orlando Police Scanners

    Sheila Martin

    June 12 at 1:22pm ·

    Wanted to post the Orlando police scanner
    audio from the shooting and wouldn’t you know it, the shooting started
    at 2 AM and the hours between 12 AM and 3 AM are MISSING from the
    archive. Unheard of. The day prior is shown as a comparison, where all
    archives were there as they should be.” this is posted on facebook

    • cindy

      Ha! What a joke. Same thing happened with the GI Joe suicide (when they were INSISTING he was killed in the line of duty) in Fox Lake, IL last September. Good Grief! Looks like they have their “safety protocols” in place to cover their sorry asses. Thanks for sharing this!

  • Not-duped-one-bit

    Most comments covered all that needs to be said except, they have a donation site going for the “victims ” of this crap and I would like to know where the 4.4 million dollars already raised is going to go if not for “victims” . If I even hear a dime went to anti 2a programs instead because this crap is fake , there needs to be an investigation and prosecution !

  • Cassandra Keller Burroughs

    Have any Pulse workers come forward with their stories or are they all dead?

  • kathy kalb

    This company Lists the shooter’s security firm as one of it’s Clients. http://crisiscast.com

  • cindy

    They keep piecing the story together, trying to fill in the gaps of their ridiculous narrative based on our posts. It’s so pathetic.

  • Abbie Hoffman

    Sorry I am actually asking you to read more than an “off-the-cuff” reaction to the news, but:

    to those who see Orlando as a hoax, or even false-flag operation (and to others not sure about what is presently going on): please understand, and please respond, in kind, with what you believe to be both timely and responsible corrective measures, i.e. real solutions.

    What I am witnessing after these events is the immediate arrival of individuals, and groups, more than most realize — and they are arriving with the proposition that impels citizens to be skeptical of more than just a handful of influential events — they are asking citizens to question the veracity of these events, ad nauseum. Media skeptics, within minutes of these events begin to instantly pinpoint and discuss clear patterns and reasons why citizens should doubt these events. Why, I ask.

    It seems that as these horrible scenes unfold — BOTH the events and the skeptical responses that arise from these events — are becoming more frequent, more widespread, more brazen, more informed, more obvious and toxic. If you don’t have the ability to admit this to be the case, then stop reading this and continue hating guns, or loving guns, hating Hillary, or loving trump, hating Obama, or hating gays, or muslims, or latinos, or whatever the menu of these events offer. Undoubtedly each new event appears to forcibly make citizens respond with vitriol toward one another’s interpretation of the events.

    NOW, because of the obvious and expected chaos that follows these events, i also think it safe and fair to therefore assume that there exists an equally obvious reason as to WHY this is happening.

    What I am observing is a 24 hour news cycle (coupled with social media) that has quickly become the means by which, and the conduit(s) thru-which citizenry is being distracted, by design, to fight each other, in-fight, and be divided — and because of this, it unfortunately seems to appear that there is NO likelihood that average citizens will involve themselves with due-diligence NOR will average citizens do something, to find a solution, to unite against the hijacking of a reality that is clearly being shaped by fraud.

    …some would refer to where all this is leading as an inescapable cluster-f&*%, while others, like me, recognize this division as an expected result of fraud — I also find the situation irrefutably ironic, and it flawlessly demonstrates what a well-designed self-fulfilling prophecy looks like.

    Stay Calm — and respond in kind. Thank you for your time — most of you can go back to your regularly scheduled yelling match…OR…share what you believe to be sensible, timely, and responsible CORRECTIVE MEASURES to the FRAUD we are presently witnessing

  • Jesse Farmer

    There is also the more accessible motive of money.

    Nateen was (is) a mercenary for the largest private security firm in the world. Do you think their phone was ringing Monday morning?

  • Numerology and Gematria proves that Orlando GAY Nightclub shooting was a fabricated hoax.

    https://obama793.com/2016/06/13/orlando-gay-nightclub-shooting-was-a-fabricated-hoax/

  • nomadfiles

    crisis actor. literally

    ***A man named Luis Burbano claims to be an eyewitness in the club and was interviewed by several media outlets, including ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos.

    It turns out eyewitness Luis Burbano is a professional actor. He has a profile on IMDb . Below are side-by-side comparison of Luis Burbano in the ABC interview (left) and Luis Burbano on IMDb. It’s the same man.
    https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/luis-burbano-2.jpg?w=500&h=275

    Luis Burbano (2)You would think that in the media interviews about the Orlando shooting, Burbano would take the opportunity to give his career a boost by identifying himself as a professional actor, but he didn’t.

    IMDb lists 5 acting credits under Burbano’s “Filmography,” the most recent one being his role as a “club patron” in a 2015 video called “Spirit of Orlando: Shooting Up”. You can’t make this up!

    Here’s a screenshot I took from IMDb:
    https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/luis-burbano.jpg?w=500&h=245

    Luis Burbano

    IMDb describes “Spirit of Orlando: Shooting Up” as a 5-minute music video, dated September 25, 2015, in which Burbano stars as a “club patron,” with other actors playing the parts of the boss and employees of PharmaCorp Inc. LLC.
    ***
    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/author/eowyn2/

    • Daniel “No Passport” Bruno

      AMAZING FIND

      • nomadfiles

        Isn’t this a strange one? Carrying the wounded the wrong way. No ambulances. An identifiable crisis actor. Shooter has father w high level connections and works for a worldwide security agency. It’s almost like they want us to know its a psy-op.

  • mt

    Ok…they say akyra murray was celebrating her graduation…but according to the school basketball roster for the 2015-2016 season shes a junior. http://www.westcatholic.org/page.cfm?p=541&teamID=119&display=Roster

  • Daniel “No Passport” Bruno
  • Daniel “No Passport” Bruno
  • Nadia Hamza

    The company G4S is well known allover the world it is not an acting company it is a security company that deals with taking large amounts of money from a to z destination.
    http://www.g4s.com/

  • Eevie

    Hell yeah!!!

  • David Murray

    There is a YouTube video titled Spirit of Orlando:Shooting Up.

    This was a music video made in Sept 2015.
    You can watch it here:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pRiV_mL2a7E

    That
    is a very odd title, considering what has recently transpired. The
    video is about a woman leaving her job at a pharmaceutical company. The
    “Shooting Up” presumably is a reference to something about
    pharmaceutical companies – and not shooting up a club. Still,very odd.

    I
    watched it several times and noticed that there is a very pretty black
    girl in several places in the video. Having pored over the recent
    footage of the Orlando shooting – I was looking for anything in this
    video that may have something to do with the Orlando shooting.
    What
    struck me is – this black girl in this video looks very much like
    Patience Carter, the girl who was shot in the leg at the pulse club, and
    was later all over the news with her story.

    It
    turns out that she is an intern at Fox News, doing broadcasting. If
    you google Fox 29 Patience Carter, you can see several videos of her.
    I
    have spent some time taking screenshots of this video called Shooting
    Up. I have pictures of the black girl in this video. I have tried to
    do side to side comparisons of that face with known pics of Patience
    Carter.

    I am struck by the almost perfect likeness between them. I have pictures below.

    I am only saying that this girl looks very much like Patience Carter.

    IF
    Patience Carter actually appeared in a video made in Sept 2015, titled
    “Spirit of Orlando:Shooting Up” – that would have to be one of the
    bizarrest coincidences. Patience Carter reportedly just went to
    Orlando from New York, where she is a student. There is no reason that
    she would have been connected to anything in Orlando before this recent
    trip.

    If other readers can pursue this further, it adds a real shocking quality to this whole event.

  • JustsayNO

    Tampa news station WTSP’s reports its investigative unit, 10Investigates, attempted to obtain records relevant inspections and emergency exits at the Pulse nightclub to further investigate why so many people apparently could not get out of the club. When the reporter asked the Orlando Fire Marshal to provide the public records, he said the fire marshal told him that her chief instructed her not to provide any records related to the Pulse nightclub. According to the station, the refusal to provide the records may have been a violation of state law.

    How many people does this place supposedly hold?

  • Truthuk
  • righteous

    Here you go:
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/content/25000-reward-information-leading-exposure-false-flag-orlando-huffington-post-bloggers-club-o#comments

    Arrest all of these crisis actors, and find out who paid them. From there it should be easy to find the real culprits. Follow the money.
    Make checks payable to Michael Rivero at whatreallyhappened.com , and make it quick.

  • ra wo

    You can have real casualties in false flag events. They can throw in some crisis actors to confuse things. But Orlando provides the best opportunity yet that to show that the FBI is helping the attacks occur, probably using either real terrorists or brainwashed or mentally disturbed individuals. The Orlando shooter bought his gun legally, which means he had to pass a background check through the FBI’s own databases. Lawsuits coming. Read: “The FBI Could Have Stopped the Orlando Shooter, Why Didn’t They?”

    http://hubpages.com/politics/The-Ridiculously-Easy-Way-the-FBI-Might-Have-Prevented-the-Orlando-Shooting-and-Why-it-is-Criminal-They-Didnt #OrlandoFalseFlag

  • nomadfiles

    Send check to Putin
    Putin Orders Military Alert: Warns Orlando Massacre Is “False Flag Event”

    …Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) warned that the Orlando Massacre false flag event orchestrated by Hillary Clinton and her allies was unraveling so fast the Obama regime will soon have no choice but to launch a major war in order to distract the American peoples attention away from what is turning out to be one of the largest state crimes ever perpetrated in the United States

    According to this MoD report… this false flag event was being “managed/orchestrated” by the world’s largest private security company named G4S—but whose “master plan” was thwarted when two off duty Orlando officers, Scott Smith and Jeffrey Backhaus, arrived at the massacre site and began firing at the G4S “hit team/squad” being led by Omar Siddiqui Mateen.

    … off duty policemen Backhaus and Smith had actually begun their firefight with lookout members of this G4S “hit team/squad” a little over a block away from the Pulse Night Club—and that the US media shockingly portrayed as victims being carried to safety, when, in fact, they were wounded G4S operatives (including a sniper) being carried back to the Pulse Night Club to be placed under custody.
    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2056.htm

    • Carl_Herman

      You link an article by “Sorcha Faal” who always gives unsourced info that seems disinformation to confuse those of us looking for facts. Note this info is all unsourced.

      • nomadfiles

        ok. thanks

        • Thor

          Sorcha Faal also known as Such a Fail – he/she has been peddling ridiculous claims for years…none of them are ever true.

  • Christopher M

    THIS IS HOG WASH……. Theres NO WAY you can say this was faked…. I just found Angel Candelario Padro’s Uncles facebook page and I saw bits and piece of the funeral posted to his facebook page… Theres no way Angels whole funeral was faked. Cant be! I saw video of the coffin being loaded into the horse drawn buggy. I cant see how this was all faked plus the funeral and Angel’s still walking around ALIVE in Orlando or back in PR!

    Christopher M
    Chris@CWM030.com

  • Texxtyn

    This is awesome. I hope this becomes a trend. You guys are brilliant

  • Universal_Soul

    i suspect monica lewinski was distraction for rescinding glass steagal

  • WeNoLongerBelieveOrAidThem!

    I have a huge list of evidence of false flags and hoaxes. Contact me at
    thinktruefreedom@aol.com

  • roguemodel

    I happen to come across this site, how the hell i don’t know. The assessment of this video is pathetic. What kind of nut are you? I WAS THERE as a first responder, a paramedic. I can tell you exactly what you are looking at and refute your ridiculous argument that victims were being carried towards the nightclub in a staged event, and the an entire street was blocked off to house the Hollywood production. When large scale events occur in which multitudes of people are killed or injured, chaos ensues until the police arrive and restore some semblance of order. Victims are carried away from the scene.

    First responders are staged at a triage area generally not so near the site of the actionable scene. Meaning, first responders are kept safe away from the scene until it is absolutely safe to approach which may not happen for quite a long period of time. And remember, the nightclub is a crime scene, therefore, access into the building is kept to a minimum. Once that triage staging area is set, the victims must be brought to that staging area form across the immediate localized area. THIS is why it appears victims are being carried “towards” the nightclub.

    For anyone here to speculate on what they see when they have no operational knowledge of how mass casualties scenes operate is pathetic. Of course, I will guess that all the grieving, all the funerals were staged as well, but I guess you would say they buried empty caskets. You contact the FBI? Yeah, I’ll bet they have your number; as a nutcase. OOO, I know, I’m a plant for the CIA! Yeah, that’s it!

  • tom

    ….Problem with world is not the people blamed by paid agent shills on net. Its not, the People they blame. Its not the blacks, the Iranians, the Latinos, the Hispanics, the RUSSIANS, the Muslims….its the guys that hide…the cowardly Yank nazi wanna be.

    UNION, COUNTY POLICE appear to be gangstalking innocent civilians based on POLITICAL VIEWS. It appears that police, firemen, and common rabble, are stalking people, to intimidate.

    On Chestnut Street, in Union N.J., across (and around) 381 Chestnut St . , there is an apt. building wherein at least one or two suspected GANGSTALKER operatives dwell..there are many. This one suspect, is a Zimmerman type lowlife. Wears a pony tail..drives a Green Truck Explorer…beware!

    They are in local YMCA, HOSPITAL, etc. They watch from burger joint in center of town. Be aware..police are satanic fraternal order. They meet at lodges, like Elks, Rotary, Knights.etc., usually under cover of picnics..to plan their crimes. They even break into homes ( See SNEAK AND PEEK ) and plant tracking devices on cars, in order to stalk/ intimidate..its the good ol neighborhood Klan style snitch club. They also appear to be indirectly, assisting drug dealers. HEADS UP.

    PATRIOT OUT. Please pass along as Im censored.

    P.S. The reason they force logging in with Disqus, FB, Gmail, etc…is to block whistleblowers and their targeted victims, so they may continue staging terror.

    I am glad little by little this type of government corruption is being exposed to the public. Here’s why, fusion centers nationwide flash-mob stalking citizens, gas-lighting, illegal invasion of privacy and property, willfully exposing citizens to EMF radiation using portable high tech military electronics, illegal drone and satellite surveillance of the public or individuals, weaponized military vehicles disguised as ordinary cars, trucks, semi, and 18 wheelers assaulting people with cancer causing Directed Energy Frequencies or spraying chemtrail-like substance from the ground level, either in some kind of ‘vigilante’ revenge against the public or some kind of depopulation program. Government using criminal elements of society to touture and harass law abiding citizens, as a form of neural monitoring mind control or as some form of intimidation tactic. Things are really wrong and satanically wicked over here in the United States….land of cowards with low IQ.

    lts the Blacks, the Iranians, no its the Russians, the Latinos, the Hispanics ..El Chapo…ANYONE BUT THE BOYS AT NSA, CIA, FBI, etc…effeminate, with a blonde pony tail. They never du nuffin. Meanwhile all evil is staged and funded.

  • tommy

    Police, Fire, and common criminals in Union New Jersey!!!!

    ….Problem with world is not the people blamed by paid agent shills on net. Its not, the People they blame. Its not the blacks, the Iranians, the Latinos, the Hispanics, the RUSSIANS, the Muslims….its the guys that hide…the cowardly Yank nazi wanna be.

    UNION, COUNTY POLICE appear to be gangstalking innocent civilians based on POLITICAL VIEWS. It appears that police, firemen, and common rabble, are stalking people, to intimidate.

    On Chestnut Street, in Union N.J., across (and around) 381 Chestnut St . , there is an apt. building wherein at least one or two suspected GANGSTALKER operatives dwell..there are many. This one suspect, is a Zimmerman type lowlife. Wears a pony tail..drives a Green Truck Explorer…beware!

    They are in local YMCA, HOSPITAL, etc. They watch from burger joint in center of town. Be aware..police are satanic fraternal order. They meet at lodges, like Elks, Rotary, Knights.etc., usually under cover of picnics..to plan their crimes. They even break into homes ( See SNEAK AND PEEK ) and plant tracking devices on cars, in order to stalk/ intimidate..its the good ol neighborhood Klan style snitch club. They also appear to be indirectly, assisting drug dealers. HEADS UP.

    PATRIOT OUT. Please pass along as Im censored.

    P.S. The reason they force logging in with Disqus, FB, Gmail, etc…is to block whistleblowers and their targeted victims, so they may continue staging terror.

    I am glad little by little this type of government corruption is being exposed to the public. Here’s why, fusion centers nationwide flash-mob stalking citizens, gas-lighting, illegal invasion of privacy and property, willfully exposing citizens to EMF radiation using portable high tech military electronics, illegal drone and satellite surveillance of the public or individuals, weaponized military vehicles disguised as ordinary cars, trucks, semi, and 18 wheelers assaulting people with cancer causing Directed Energy Frequencies or spraying chemtrail-like substance from the ground level, either in some kind of ‘vigilante’ revenge against the public or some kind of depopulation program. Government using criminal elements of society to touture and harass law abiding citizens, as a form of neural monitoring mind control or as some form of intimidation tactic. Things are really wrong and satanically wicked over here in the United States….land of cowards with low IQ.

    lts the Blacks, the Iranians, no its the Russians, the Latinos, the Hispanics ..El Chapo…ANYONE BUT THE BOYS AT NSA, CIA, FBI, etc…effeminate, with a blonde pony tail. They never du nuffin. Meanwhile all evil is staged and funded.