What We REALLY Know About the 9/11 Defendants

The government pretends that it’s giving the surviving 9/11 masterminds a fair trial, and that justice will prevail.

The truth may be different …

Kangaroo Court Show Trials

Buzzfeed reported yesterday:

The Defense Department has farmed out to a private company much of the criminal investigation and trials of the men accused of plotting the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, according to federal records and sources affiliated with the trials who spoke to BuzzFeed News.

What’s more, the government has hired the same firm, SRA International, to serve both the prosecution and defense teams, sparking concerns of a conflict of interest that could undermine the integrity of one of the most significant terrorism cases in modern history.

Sound a little odd?  It’s not the only fishy thing about the 9/11 trials …

In 2008, the former chief prosecutor for Guantanamo’s military commissions disclosed that the trials have been rigged to prevent any possibility of acquittal.

Specifically, the head of the Guantanamo tribunal — who is actually in charge of both prosecuting and defending the suspects — told the former chief prosecutor:

Wait a minute, we can’t have acquittals. If we’ve been holding these guys for so long, how can we explain letting them get off? We can’t have acquittals, we’ve got to have convictions.

In addition, three other Guantanamo prosecutors — Maj. Robert Preston, Capt. John Carr and Capt. Carrie Wolf — “asked to be relieved of duties after saying they were concerned that the process was rigged. One said he had been assured he didn’t need to worry about building a proper case; convictions were assured.”

Another former Guantanamo prosecutor resigned, saying in a sworn declaration that the government pulled all sorts of shenanigans in one case.

The head of the tribunal also said that — even if the defendants are somehow acquitted — they may not be released from Guantanamo.

No wonder the American Bar Association, “which the Pentagon had said would help arrange such representation, has refused to participate because it objects to the trial procedures.”

And no wonder the defense attorneys who have agreed to represent the defendants say that the process is completely unfair. See also this interview.

Both the 9/11 Trials and the 9/11 Commission Investigation Were Based on Unreliable Evidence Produced by Torture

The CIA videotaped the interrogation of 9/11 suspects, falsely told the 9/11 Commission that there were no videotapes or other records of the interrogations, and then illegally destroyed all of the tapes and transcripts of the interrogations.

9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:

Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.

The chief lawyer for Guantanamo litigation – Vijay Padmanabhan – said that torture of 9/11 suspects was widespread. And Susan J. Crawford, the senior Pentagon official overseeing the military commissions at Guantánamo — the novel system of trials for terror suspects that was conceived in the wake of the 9/11 attacks — told Bob Woodward:

We tortured Qahtani. His treatment met the legal definition of torture.

Moreover, the type of torture used by the U.S. on the Guantanamo suspects is of a special type. Senator Levin revealed that the the U.S. used Communist torture techniques specifically aimed at creating false confessions. (and see this, this, this and this).

And according to NBC News:

  • Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were tortured
  • At least four of the people whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report have claimed that they told interrogators information as a way to stop being “tortured.”
  • One of the Commission’s main sources of information was tortured until he agreed to sign a confession that he was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ
  • The 9/11 Commission itself doubted the accuracy of the torture confessions, and yet kept their doubts to themselves

In addition, one of the two main “sources” of information for the 9/11 Commission Report – Abu Zubaydah – was touted by the government as one of Al Qaeda’s top 3 leaders … an Al Qaeda mastermind, general,  and terror coordinator. But the government was later forced to admit that Zubaydah wasn’t even connected with Al Qaeda at all.

Zubaydah was also literally nutty as a fruitcake years before 9/11, and yet the CIA kept on torturing him until he totally lost his mind and became like a brain-dead, trained dog. And the government touted his information gained from torture as if it were vital fact.

The other main “source” for the 9/11 Commission Report – alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed – said that he gave the interrogators a lot of false information – telling them what he thought they wanted to hear – in an attempt to stop the torture. We also know that he was heavily tortured specifically for the purpose of trying to obtain false information about 9/11 – specifically, that Iraq had something to do with it.

9/11 Commissioners Slam Blatant Obstruction of Justice

The 9/11 Commissioners publicly expressed anger at cover ups and obstructions of justice by the government into a real 9/11 investigation:

  • The Commission’s co-chairs said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”
  • The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

And the Co-Chair of the official Congressional Inquiry Into 9/11 – and former head of the Senate Intelligence Committee – has called for a new 9/11 investigation.

Some examples of obstruction of justice into the 9/11 investigation include:

  • An FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000. Specifically, investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House. As the New York Times notes:

Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence ….The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

  • The chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Official Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 said that Soviet-style government “minders” obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses
  • The 9/11 Commissioners concluded that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements
  • As reported by ACLU, FireDogLake, RawStory and many others, declassified documents show that Senior Bush administration officials sternly cautioned the 9/11 Commission against probing too deeply into the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001

So how much do we really know about the 9/11 defendants?

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  • diogenes

    This discussion accepts a hoax as basis. It is clear from the evidence of physics, chemistry and common sense that the THREE skyscapers that dissolved into smoke and dust on 9/11/01 giving all the appearance of being taken down by controlled demolition WERE thus destroyed. Manifestly this MUST be the case with the third building, which was not struck by an airplane. So whoever the “19 arabs” who defeated the US Air Force with boxcutters (sic) were or weren’t, they can’t have been responsible for the event. That the Official Commission and Official Trails were cover-ups and hoaxes is therefore obvious without further argument, though the assertions to this effect by various Commission members is confirmatory. This essay, like so many, in taking what is patent nonsense seriously as a basis for discussion, in effect if not in intent, works to further the hoax. This should be beneath Washingtonsblog.

    • jadan

      There were 7 buildings in the WTC complex. They were all destroyed. Essays like this one promote the hoax, as you say. WB should just cut the crap and say something intelligent.. Airplanes & Arabs did not destroy the WTC. Any fool can see that after a moment’s consideration.

  • y3shuA immAnu3l

    “Men are prone to jump at conclusions drawn from sensual observation and to regard the visible side of nature as the actual world and to reject that which is beyond sensual perception ; but even a superficial reflection will convince man that the terms “visible” and “invisible” are merely relative; for whether or not a thing may be seen by us, depends not merely on its own nature, but also on the construction and quality of the organs of our perception. What may be seen by one, may be invisible to another who is devoid of the organ of sight ; and what may be invisible to many, may be visible to those whose inner powers of perception have become open.”

  • y3shuA immAnu3l

    Listen ye, O man, to he who comes to you.
    But weigh in the balance if his words be of LIGHT. For many there are who walk in DARK BRIGHTNESS and yet are not the children of LIGHT. Easy it is to follow their
    pathway, easy to follow the path that they
    lead. But yet O man, heed ye my warning:
    Light comes only to him who strives.
    Hard is the pathway that leads to the WISDOM,
    hard is the pathway that leads to the LIGHT.
    Many shall ye find, the stones in your pathway:
    many the mountains to climb toward the LIGHT.
    Yet know ye, O man, to him that overcometh,
    free will he be of the pathway of Light.
    For ye know, O man, in the END light must conquer and darkness and night be banished from Light. Listen, O man, and heed ye this wisdom; even as darkness, so is the LIGHT.
    When darkness is banished and all Veils are rended, out there shall flash from the darkness, the LIGHT..

  • y3shuA immAnu3l

    “Aye, know we that of all, nothing else matters excepting the growth we can gain with our Soul. Know we the flesh is
    fleeting. The things men count great are nothing to us. The things we seek are not of the body but are only the perfected state of the Soul. When ye as men can learn that nothing but progress of Soul can count in the end, then truly ye are free from all bondage.”

  • March 19, 2013 The Iraq War Ten Years After

    Declassified Documents Show Failed Intelligence, Policy Ad Hockery, Propaganda-Driven Decision-Making National Security Archive Publishes “Essential” Primary Sources on Operation Iraqi Freedom National Security Archive Briefing Book No. 418.

    The U.S. invasion of Iraq turned out to be a textbook case of flawed assumptions, wrong-headed intelligence, propaganda manipulation, and administrative ad hockery, according to the National Security Archive’s briefing book of declassified documents posted today to mark the 10th anniversary of the war.

    http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB418/

  • ICFubar

    For a second on reading the headline I thought this might be a “sarc” piece with many and various neo cons in the docket. But no this was about the imperial machine keeping up appearances by destroying peoples lives, as per usual , as with the Tsarnevs and many others who are not publicly known. Those running these tragic farces of injustice are “just following orders” no doubt. At some point we will all pay a price…..

  • y3shuA immAnu3l

    “It is not Matter that is illusion but the belief that Matter is a thing true and self-subsistent with out reference to any Beyond or Within.
    This world in itself is certainly not illusion, for the matter which composes it is the last expression, centrifugally formulated, of Spirit, and, in fact, is Spirit, in a specialised and congelate condition. But the illusion of it consists in apprehending Matter as eternal and absolute, and in seeing in it the be-all and end-all of Life and Substance. The image seen in the pool or the mirror is not illusion, but he would be deluded who should suppose it to be other than an image.”

    • animalogic

      How interesting. Might one ask for its context re: 9/11 etc ? It may be obvious to you, but I’m struggling….

      • y3shuA immAnu3l

        “From the unreal, lead me to the Real ; from darkness to Light, from death to Immortality.”

        • animalogic

          Yes, you seem to be enjoying yourself.
          A generous view might be that you are simply self obsessed & self indulgent with your “philosophy”.
          A more cynical view is you are a troll. A cryptography-propagandist for the establishment.
          A third view, one I lean to, is you are a SMART ARSE. Mocking a subject that many people (rightly) take quite seriously. Please go away.

          • y3shuA immAnu3l

            Did I ask you for your opinion?

            I don’t know you.
            So, I will go my way and you can go your way.

            (no response needed)

          • animalogic

            Oh goody, there’s a human behind the long screeds.
            When you post on a site such a this you implicitly accept others opinions.
            You can then respond in turn. Great slabs of unsourced quotation are not appropriate. It’s up to YOU to put your comments in the context presented by the particular article. I repeat your comments appear suspiciously like mockery.

          • y3shuA immAnu3l

            “Divine Wisdom is the whole light of Grace happening to man from the Holy Spirit effused from above, which is the universal Wisdom of the Kingdom of Heaven, and the saving knowledge of divine and supernatural things, making chaste and purging the soul from every defilement of sin abiding in the mortal body ; in respect whereof that natural wisdom is but a shadow, which, when the world is blotted out and removed, will together with it be blotted out and removed, and then Divine Wisdom alone shall reign.”

          • animalogic

            Well, it’s nice that you are having fun.

          • y3shuA immAnu3l

            You don’t understand.

          • animalogic

            I understand this: without sourcing, without explanation you have been dumping huge slabs of new-age/religious quotation into a thread in which it has no apparent valid purpose.
            NOT ONCE have you addressed the issues. Now, why do you consider you have a “right” to post at Washingtonsblog ?
            I repeat again: you are making a mockery of a serious issue. Is it all just a piss-take or are you so narcissistic that you believe your entirely dubious and portentious (pretentious, also) comments are valid here.
            My patience is wearing thin with your shenanigans.

          • y3shuA immAnu3l

            thank you.

  • andrew1212

    …all this despite President’s Bush’s pledge from the White House on the evening of September 11th:

    “to find those who committed these acts and bring them to justice.”

    (guess he should have said: “We will kidnap, torture, open secret prisons with Monkey Courts, and start two illegal wars to get revenge and enrich WAR, INC.”)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiMFzXio6mA

  • Arlene Lane

    is the USA totally blinded by 911, how long is this going to go on, they already know who the guilty parties are, and they are not going to do anything about it, because they are also complicit in this self inflicted mass murder along with ISRAELI -MOSSAD, so it is now time to drop[ this, because there is no more meat left on this bone.

  • You know what’s funny? People who sound like a broken record about 4 people killed in Benghazi…but totally ignored the 3,000 killed in Bush’s 911 inside job. THAT is funny.

  • LeseMajeste

    It’s the “Little Drummer Girl” in real life.

  • Steve

    They can only prosecute those who knew nothing and had nothing to do with it. If they prosecuted someone really involved, that person would spill everything they know about everyone else involved.

  • Steve

    The Bush WH sent a threatening email to Mark Cuban warning him not to distribute Loose Change in theaters across the nation.