The Rebellion Will Not Go Away

By Gaius Publius, a professional writer living on the West Coast of the United States and frequent contributor to DownWithTyranny, digby, Truthout, and Naked Capitalism. Follow him on Twitter @Gaius_Publius, Tumblr and Facebook. Originally published at at Down With Tyranny. GP article archive here.

Income of Americans age 20-24 since 1979 compared to other age groups (source; click to enlarge)


The Sanders- and Trump-led (for now) political rebellion is not going to go away. There are only two questions going forward:

  • Will it remain a political rebellion, one that expresses itself through the electoral process, or will it abandon the electoral process as useless after 2016?
  • Will it be led by humanitarian populism from the left, or authoritarian populism from the right?

Why is this rebellion permanent, at least until conditions improve? Because life in the U.S. is getting worse in a way that can be felt by a critical mass of people, by enough people to disrupt the Establishment machine with their anger. And because that worsening is seen to be permanent.

Bottom line, people are reaching the breaking point, and we’re watching that play out in the 2016 electoral race.

Yes, It Is a Rebellion

There’s no other way to see the Sanders and Trump surges except as a popular rebellion, a rebellion of the people against their “leaders.” If one of them, Sanders or Trump, is on the ballot in November running against an Establishment alternative, Sanders or Trump, the anti-Establishment candidate, will win. That candidate will cannibalize votes from the Establishment side.

That is, Sanders will attract a non-zero percentage of Trump-supporting voters if Cruz or Paul Ryan runs against him, and he will win. By the same token, Trump will attract a non-zero percentage Sanders-supporting voters (or they will stand down) if Clinton runs against him, and she will lose to him.

(In fact, we have a good early indication of what percentage of Sanders supporters Clinton will lose20% of Sanders primary voters say they will sit out the general election if Clinton is the candidate, and 9% say they will vote for Trump over Clinton. By this measure, Clinton loses 30% of the votes that went to Sanders in the primary election.)

If they run against each other, Sanders and Trump, Sanders will win. You don’t have to take my word for it (or the word of any number of other writers). You can click here and see what almost every head-to-head poll says. As I look at it today, the average of the last six head-to-head polls is Sanders by almost 18% over Trump. In electoral terms, that’s a wipeout. For comparison, Obama beat McCain by 6% and Romney by 4%.

Note that Sanders is still surging, winning some states with 80% of the vote (across all states he’s won, he averages 67% of the vote), while Trump seems to have hit a ceiling below 50%, even in victory. The “socialist” tag is not only not sticking, it’s seen positively by his supporters. And finally, just imagine a Trump-Sanders debate. Sanders’ style is teflon to Trumps’, and again, I’m not alone in noticing this.

Whichever anti-Establishment candidate runs, he wins. If both anti-Establishment candidates face off, Sanders wins. The message seems pretty clear. Dear Establishment Democrats, you can lose to Sanders or lose to Trump. Those are your choices, and I’m more than happy to wait until November 9 to find out what you chose and how it turned out. Not pleased to wait, if you choose wrongly, but willing to wait, just so we’re both aware of what happened.

The Rebellion Is Not Going Away

I won’t be happy with you though, Establishment Democrats, if you choose badly. And I won’t be alone. Because even if you succeed with Clinton, Establishment Democrats, or succeed in giving us Trump in preference to giving us Sanders, the rebellion is not going away.

If you look at the Trump side, it’s easy to see why. Are wages rising with profits? No, and Trump supporters have had enough. (They don’t quite know who to blame, but they’re done with things as they are.) Will they tolerate another bank bailout, the one that’s inevitable the way the banks are continuing to operate? They haven’t begun to tolerate the last one. They already know they were screwed by NAFTA. What will their reaction be to the next trade deal, or the next, or the next? (Yes, it’s not just TPP; there are three queued up and ready to be unleashed.)

Trump supporters, the core of them, are dying of drugs and despair, and they’re not going to go quietly into that dark night. The Trump phenomenon is proof of that.

On the Sanders side, the rebellion is even clearer. Sanders has energized a great many voters across the Democratic-independent spectrum with his call for a “political revolution.” But it’s among the young, the future of America, that the message is especially resonant. For the first time in a long time, the current generation of youth in America sees itself as sinking below the achievements of their parents.

The Guardian:

US millennials feel more working class than any other generation

Social survey data reveals downshift in class identity among 18-35s, with only a third believing they are middle class

Millennials in the US see themselves as less middle class and more working class than any other generation since records began three decades ago, the Guardian and Ipsos Mori have found.

Analysing social survey data spanning 34 years reveals that only about a third of adults aged 18-35 think they are part of the US middle class. Meanwhile 56.5% of this age group describe themselves as working class.

The number of millennials – who are also known as Generation Y and number about 80 million in the US – describing themselves as middle class has fallen in almost every survey conducted every other year, dropping from 45.6% in 2002 to a record low of 34.8% in 2014. In that year, 8% of millennials considered themselves to be lower class and less than 1% considered themselves to be upper class.

Of course, that leads to this:

The large downshift in class identity among young adults may have helped explain the surprisingly strong performance in Democratic primaries of the insurgent presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, who has promised to scrap college tuition fees and raise minimum wages.

Will those voters, so many of them self-described “independents,” return to the Democratic Party? Only if the Party offers them a choice they actually want. If the Party does not, there will be hell to pay on the Democratic side as well. America is making them poorer — Establishment Democratic policies are making them poorer — and they’re done with it. The Sanders phenomenon is proof of that.

Will the Very Very Rich Stand Down?

The squeeze is on, and unless the rich who run the game for their benefit alone decide to stand down and let the rest of us catch our breath and a break, there will be no letting up on the reaction. What we’re watching is just the beginning. Unless the rich and their Establishment enablers stand down, this won’t be the end but a start, and just a start.

I’ll identify the three branches to this crossroad in another piece. It’s not that hard to suss out those three paths, so long as you’re willing to look a few years ahead, into the “middle distance” as it were. The ways this could play out are limited and kind of staring right at us.

But let’s just say for now, America faces its future in a way that hasn’t happened since the Great Depression, another period in which the Constitution was rewritten in an orderly way (via the political process). Which means that for almost every living American, this is the most consequential electoral year of your life.

I know. I’m not happy about that either.

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  • Dex

    I’ve been predicting this years ago, and telling people that unless this rebellion turns armed, it’s likely to fail. And today’s push for gun control just serves as a preventive measure to eliminate just that outcome.

    • saint boudreau

      no pop guns not an answer we just need 50,000 people to march to the US congress go in the building just pour in dripping out the windows and sit on all the US congressman , never again will a US congress vote against its people.

      • Dex

        I don’t think so, they’ll sooner deploy riot control and SWAT teams to deny the people just that, and they’ll get slaughtered…

  • iseeitfx

    I’m inclined to agree with most of what the author has written here; however the following is absolutely bizarre: Will it be led by humanitarian populism from the left, or authoritarian populism from the right?

    What the hell is ‘humanitarian’ about progressivism?


      That is exactly the first thing I thought too.Those who want to be left alone on the right vs those who want to control others (authoritarians) on the left.

  • The government spooks are prepping just view this. Mar 9, 2016 New Mexico: Truck Driver Spots Train Hauling Military Tanks and Equipment Headed East

    A subscriber sent this this my way and asked to share it. He is a truck driver that describes seeing more and more military equipment being brought into the US. He says they have been carrying equipment by Semi, But now he is seeing Trains Hauling Everything from Tanks to Bulldozers! This event he caught on tape shows that the train was heading east passing through the Gallup, New Mexico Area Yesterday. All of this coming in the few months leading up to Jade Helm 16. You can find more at the links below.

    • saint boudreau

      point ?

      • Do I have to paint a picture for you?

  • Nov 24, 2015 The Deep State: The Unelected Shadow Government

    America’s next president will inherit more than a bitterly divided nation. He or she will also inherit a shadow government—a permanent, corporatized, militarized, entrenched bureaucracy that is fully operational and staffed by unelected officials who are, in essence, running the country.

    • Most people can’t even name these unelected officials. Trump’s already sworn fealty to them.
      I hope he’s the rebel everyone takes him for. What if he’s just capitalising on 8 years of seething resentment that’s built up on the Right in the Obamayears?

      • Here is a video from a long time source of a female and her honest review of the Don.

        Aug 21, 2015 No, Clinton Operative Donald Trump Is Not Going to “Save” America

        It’s kinda hard to believe I actually had to make this video wherein I had to pretend like any of the words that are coming out of this person’s mouth are even 0.0002% genuine. That really just happened. Wow, America. Just… Wow!

      • Theodora Angelina

        Again, this is a slander against Trump. He is not a politician and political rhetoric is not his mother tongue. Building and executing are. Actions speak louder than words.


    The true authoritarians are on the left ,not the right.I don’t know how you can claim someone who wants to force you to pay for other peoples “free” stuff is the humanitarian.Totally wrong on that part.

    • saint boudreau

      be specific with even one of your complaints ?

  • knifemare69

    Humanitarian populism from the left? On what planet? The left bombed Libya for 7 months to steal their gold and oil, bombed Syria for several years killing hundreds of thousands until the Russians shut them down with a no-fly zone over the country and the left never stopped bombing Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia to kill thousands for Wall Street corporations.

    The left is just as imperialist and bloodthirsty as the right; calling them ‘humanitarian’ is a slap in the face to real humanitarians…

  • saint boudreau

    this guy is very wordy, must get paid by number of words. we the people en masse ‘GET IT’ and it will be Trump or pitchfork rebellion.