Twenty Years Later: Facts About the OKC Bombing That Go Unreported

Next week will mark the 20th anniversary of the terrorist bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, which killed 168 people including 19 children. The mainstream media will undoubtedly focus its attention on Timothy McVeigh, who was put to death in June 2001 for his part in the crime. They might also mention Terry Nichols, who was convicted of helping McVeigh plan the bombing and is serving a life sentence without parole.

OKC MurrahThere will be less discussion about how the FBI spent years hunting for a man who witnesses say accompanied McVeigh on the day of the bombing. They called this accomplice John Doe #2 and theories about his identity range from an Iraqi named Hussain Al-Hussaini, to a German national described below, to a neo-nazi bank robber named Richard Guthrie. The Justice Department finally gave up its search and said it was all a mistake— that there was never any credible evidence of a John Doe #2 being involved.

That reversal demonstrates a pattern of cover-up by authorities and limited media coverage in the years since the crime. This week, accounts will not repeat early reports of secondary devices in the building, or reports of the involvement of unknown middle-eastern characters. There will also be little if any mention of the extensive independent investigation into the crime that was conducted by leading members of the OKC community. Here are seven more facts that will probably not see much coverage on the 20th anniversary.

  1. Attorney Jesse Trentadue began investigating the case after his brother Kenney was killed in prison, apparently having been tortured to death by the FBI in its search for John Doe #2. Trentadue’s investigation led to a federal judge nearly finding the FBI in contempt of court for tampering with a key witness. Trentadue now says, “There’s no doubt in my mind, and it’s proven beyond any doubt, that the FBI knew that the bombing was going to take place months before it happened, and they didn’t stop it.”
  1. Judge Clark Waddoups, who presided over the case brought by Jesse Trentadue, ruled in 2010 that CIA documents associated with the case must be held secret. These documents show that the CIA was involved in the OKC bombing investigation and the prosecution of McVeigh. This means that foreign parties were involved because the CIA is prohibited from interfering in purely domestic investigations.
  1. Andreas Strassmeir, a former German military officer, was suspected of being John Doe #2. Strassmeir became close friends with McVeigh and they were both associated with a neo-nazi organization located in Elohim City, OK. A retired U.S. intelligence official claimed that Strassmeir was “working for the German government and the FBI” while at Elohim City. Mainstream reports about the OKC bombing typically avoid reference to Strassmeir.
  1. Larry Potts was the FBI supervisor who was responsible for the tragedies at Ruby Ridge in 1992, and Waco in 1993. Potts was then given responsibility for investigating the OKC bombing. Terry Nichols claimed that McVeigh—who allegedly had been recruited as an undercover intelligence asset while in the Army—had been working under the supervision of Potts.
  1. Terry Yeakey, an officer of the OKC Police Department, was among the first to reach the scene and he was heralded as a hero for rescuing many victims. Yeakey was also an eyewitness to conversations and physical evidence that convinced him that there was a cover-up of the bombing by federal agents. Yeakey was committed to getting to the truth about what happened but a year after the bombing he was found dead off the side of a rural road. His death was ruled a suicide despite overwhelming evidence that he was murdered. Authorities reported that Yeakey, “slit his wrists and neck… then miraculously climbed over a barbed wire fence… walked over a mile’s distance, through a nearby field, and eventually shot himself in the side of the head at an unusual angle.” No weapon was found, no investigation was initiated, no fingerprints were taken, and no interviews were conducted. His family continues to fight for the truth about his death.
  1. Gene Corley, the engineer who was hired by the government to support its claims about the structural fire at the Branch Davidian complex in Waco, was brought in to investigate the destruction of the Murrah Building. Corley brought along three other engineers: Charles Thornton, Mete Sozen, and Paul Mlakar. Their investigation was conducted from half a block away—where they could not observe any of the damage directly—yet their conclusions supported the pre-existing official account. A few years later, within 72 hours of the 9/11 attacks, these same four men were on site leading the investigations at the Word Trade Center and the Pentagon.
  1. There are many other links between OKC and 9/11. For example, the alleged hijackers visited the OKC area many times and even stayed in the same motel that was frequented by McVeigh and Nichols. After both the OKC bombing and 9/11, building monitoring videos went missing, FBI harassment of witnesses was seen, and officials ignored evidence that did not support the political story. Additionally, numerous oddities link the OKC area to al Qaeda. In 2002, OKC resident Nick Berg was interrogated by the FBI for lending his laptop and internet password to alleged “20th hijacker” Zacarias Moussoui. Two years after this interrogation, Berg became world famous as a victim of beheading in Iraq. Investigators looking for clues about these connections will be particularly interested in two airports in OKC, the president of the University of Oklahoma, and the CIA leader who both monitored the alleged hijackers in Germany and was hired at the university just before 9/11.

On April 19, 2015, at the 20th anniversary of one of the worst terrorist attacks in history, citizens should be reminded that we don’t know what happened that day. We don’t know because officials have covered-up the crime for unknown reasons and most media sources will not challenge that cover-up.

Kevin Ryan blogs at Dig Within.

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  • Dan Hennen

    ATF, FBI are complicit in this event. Eric Holder also involved in this. Research it.

    • azlibrabbit

      Holder is SERIOUSLY evil. I’m sure he’s at the top of Little Boots Obama’s pardon list should he decide to leave office in January of 2017.

  • Whether or not any of this conspiracy theory eventually proves to be true or false, I wouldn’t know about.
    BUT – – – ,
    To this day, I still blame our federal government for many, if not all, of the needless death and suffering in that Oklahoma City bombing.
    Because the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma is a legitimate military target, as are all other federal entities, and our federal government permitted a child day care facility to be placed inside a designated military target.
    We know that innocuous appearing federal office buildings are legitimately designated military targets under the internationally recognized Articles of War, because our United States Air Force bombs enemy government office buildings.
    Further, had there been any arrests and prosecutions of those federal officials responsible for the Waco Massacre, the bombing in Oklahoma City would never have taken place.
    Note that, as of this day, Sunday 12 April 2015, there STILL have been no arrests or prosecutions of any federal officials responsible for the Waco Massacre, possibly leaving the door open for future acts of vengeance by righteously outraged citizens.

    • Ian Anderson

      The childcare in the Murrah bldg was for the employees silly. Or should only men be employed at the FBI?

      The disinformation and red herrings of incidents such as OKC bely the very scary events that happened on 9/11.
      Whether you pick the few hrs it took to professionally drop Building 7 at WTC or the lack of debris at the Pentagon from a B767 or B757 that supposedly hit it I don’t know.
      Just know that 2 +2 isn’t 5 in whatever universe your head exists in.
      Next question is how do you top 9/11?
      With a mushroom of course.

      • sharon oliveria

        Missile Hit with Van’s Under Ground A Nuke Of a sort, they have Nuk’s now that Military have that do not produce Mushroom Cloud or RAD as the Big ones are thought of . None of these Countries, or People should have makings of Nuk’s NO! ONE! its Horror Straight from Hell! let the Leaders fight it out in the Ring, No! they wouldn’t do that, As OB said about The Drone’s Killing “I’ Am So good At This” as He laugh’s

        • William Burke

          This over-capitalization thing seems to be contagious. I had better leave, lest I be infected.

          • Roland Sciascia

            Really ??? Throw out many baby’s with the bathwater Mr. Burke ? A regular ‘ grammer nazi I see.

          • William Burke

            It’s my native language, and it’s had many great works written in it, and I’d never cavalierly disrespect it.

          • Sonsha Franklin

            Chill. That is not important.

        • SarcasTex

          Mushroom clouds are created by large explosions. Doesn’t need to be a nuke. As far as the rest of your comment,you’re a nut!

      • William Burke

        I agree. Except it’s “belie”, not “bely”.

        • Ian Anderson

          Thank you William. I stand to be corrected.
          My defense is predictive text on smart phones.


          • William Burke

            My nemesis as well, as well as much of humankind’s!

          • Ian Anderson

            It’s interesting William and I also address the other readers as well that the devil is in the detail when it comes not just to grammar but also what one observes in events eg FBI bldg in Omaha, 9/11 and Gulf Wars 1 & 11 just to name a few. The readers here should note that criticism of grammar is part of analysis of argument as well that of deductive reasoning. How else does one relate to President Clintons repeal of the Smoot – Hawley Act in 1999 and the subsequent detonation of the derivatives mkt in 07/08?
            Clinton the most corrupt President in US history and now his wife wants to wear the jacket. You Yanks are just nuts to even contemplate it. What happened to the giants who invented LASERS, CCDs, VLSIC , optic fibre and put a man on the Moon in 69 just because they felt like it?
            Inspired a generation of boys and girls around the world to do physics an engineering. You folks are the light on the hill for us all and that bloody light has dimmed a little.

      • SarcasTex

        The only people who didn’t see debris at the Pentagon were blind. If all you looked at were the cropped pictures, then you probably didn’t see any debris. But then again, you are obviously a conspiracy nut, who refuse to believe anything but your own crazy ideas, and wouldn’t admit to seeing it even if you had.
        Your comment on the WTC are indicative of your ignorance of materials and techniques used in construction.

      • h

        men aren’t the only on that can be in the fbi

  • Justin Ptak

    See also the work of Hoppy Heidelberg who was a juror on the Federal Grand Jury and spoke out.

  • Terrorism ‘R USA!!!

  • Beyond a doubt, OKC was an inside job (like 911).

  • truthbetold

    John, you make some excellent points. There shouldn’t have been a childcare center in this building. I think it is logical, and fair to say that the judge blocking the release of the CIA documents in this case, points to an agreeable/complacent CIA having involvement in this tragedy. No other reason to block these documents, if their hands are clean. False flag event. Their New Pearl Harbor that didn’t carry the magnitude they were looking for, and their timing off to blaming a country that was on their radar. Project for a New American Century. Notice the signatures on this proposed plan/document; the countries that would be invaded, and the need for an event of historic proportions in order to carry out the plan. Sacrificing life for the large oil reserves, they would later lay claim to.

    • musings2

      Yes, it was also my impression at the time that there was an attempt to blame Iraq for OKC, but it did not have the effect of galvanizing the American public the way they wanted. I remember one woman who was almost joyful that the OKC had happened, certain it was foreign terrorists from the Mideast, and anticipating we would soon attack them. But somehow the air quickly went out of the trial balloon and sterner measures would have to be taken to get the public fully engaged in a war mentality. A much bigger event. We can see the Clinton administration sandwiched between the two Bush ones. Had George Senior still been in office, something different might have come of the OKC bombing. He had stopped at pursuing Saddam all the way to Baghdad, but there was unfinished business there that others hankered to complete.

  • hotstiks

    On the morning of 9-11, I was researching the OKC bombing. What I had found was so astounding, that I did not go downstairs in response to my father saying that a building had been hit by a plane in NYC and it was being covered live. I had just read the testimony, refused admittance at McVey’s trial, by several people in the building who said it had already exploded upwards from below them, before the truck bomb went off. The best starting point to understanding OKC is to read the analysis of the truck bomb done by ret. Brigadier General Partin, a USAF expert in bomb-assessment damage. He demonstrates that a low-velocity explosive like ammonium nitrate looses energy so quickly, at the square of distance, that it would have taken a train full to do the damage that occurred. I watched a History Channel documentary the past weekend on the Texas City fertilizer plant explosion, and got an idea of what would have been required to blow the front off the Murrah building, and collapse much of the rest. Remember that it was a small Ryder van, in which the explosion went out in all directions, thereby directing only a small portion towards the building. General Partin’s analysis requires a basic understanding of chemistry and physics, but completely destroys the official conspiracy theory. That, combined with the reports of additional bombs being found inside the building (on newscasts that morning), tell us that we witnessed another false-flag that day, replete with the usual patsy. In this case, it was used to discredit the militia movement, and some say destroy the records of an investigation of drug-smuggling into Mena Arkansas. Of course, on 9-12, my attention focused on the pictures of the 9-11 collapse and the relatively miniscule pile of wreckage. My father’s question said it all: “where the hell did the buildings go?” In the following weeks, watching two towers convert into pyroclastic clouds in the endless TV coverage, I realized OKC was the trial run for something far worse.

    • helena

      WTC was more than a stock exchange/brokerage house-housed courts, social sec disability,welfare ,gold, records etc
      same for the pentagon housing presidential papers and records and that’s the side that caught it.
      and let’s not forget the sandy burglar/burger guy- what files did he snatch ?
      same for hilaree and all those FBI files-

      as for the collapse of the WTC,why is there not to much rational discussion on the very distinct possibility of those air craft carrying BOMBS as well as full fuel tanks ?

      as for trial runs ? the sheer abominations of Waco and ruby ridge SHOULD HAVE brought people united , in the streets DEMANDING ANSWERS NOW-
      same for clintons,albright,clark and nato’s seventyPLUS days nonstop bombing of CIVILIANS over in bosnia-they deliberately bombed the christians….leveled hospitals .bridges etc and never rebuilt a thing or posted the numbers of dead.
      HOW many are aware there are monuments to jihadi AND clintune- over there and of course buubba had to go and honor himself the SAME–
      what THEY DID WAS establish in eastern europe a permanent BASE for radical islam-
      think HE didn’t KNOW WHO WAS BEING BOMBED ?

      AS for the clintunes investigations.THEY took care of that by firing the attys prosecuting them as their exercise of presidential authority and installing their own-
      could go on for hours but time and pace don’t permt BUT never forget clintune and gorelik,albright ,RENO , etc.

      stay safe.

      • sharon oliveria

        You Know You Guys Are Informed & why this is not put out there. Ok The Missing 9 Trillion was Being Questioned & other Money,They called all these Men in to have a Meeting that! Day, from what has come out 9/11 was brought down to hide The Missing Money & other things that went to Middle East & some of these Big Names, the men that were Questioning it, there was a meeting called they all went down with the Towers that showed up that day & lots of Money missing never had to be answered for

    • sharon oliveria

      HotS I encourage you to contact Gordon Duff Senior Editor of Vet’s Today Magz & Radio show, He is gathering all info & expects to be filing suite upon Very Big Know Families, & Known High Ranking In former & present Govt, & 2 Countries that were involved in 9/11 search Video for Radio show on “Gordon Duff Sent Shock Waves Across The World” He has Big Credits Behind His Name was in CIA & NOW! has higher Sec-Clearance than even OB, He takes Phone call on radio show. We are all tried of the lie’s & Our people False Flag Killed, this is an OUTRAGE! Yesterday A Senator Has brought Info fourth that states that Middle Easter Country played part in Funding 9/11 Gordon Duff also names them, there is 28 pages off limits to be Revealed that has all paper trail & eye witnesses,TOO! bad He chose the week People would Be Declaring their Run for Pres, will it be bury on back page as they say.Fox New’s Covered it . Might add those Van’s were parked in under ground parking lot next to Air-Con unit, The things they had in Van’s when hit with air-Con made for Hotter Blast,Gordon Duff explains it right down to last thing, to connect all the Dot’s God Help Us ALL!

      • William Burke

        No extra points allowed for capitalizing things that do not require capitalization. In fact, if we assigned a debit system for incorrect capitalization, you’re deep in the red.

        • I’ll ENSURE to stay out your PARENT’S BASEMENT in case you ever decide to IMPOSE the fine.

          • William Burke

            Parents? I don’t have any parents.

    • Ian Anderson

      We use NH4 (NO3) in mining iron ore as it’s real cheap in huge quantities. We have enough for world demand for high grade iron ore for 10,000 yrs by the way.Never thought much of Ammo and its use in the Murrah Bldg though.
      Yeah. Incredible damage to face of the building. Most of the blast wave pressure would be lost to the surrounding air radiating up and out. Good point hotstiks.
      By the way it’s a cube function not squared in open air explosion.
      Man you are one scary country.
      Glad next stop for us is Penguinville.

    • Kernighan

      You have nailed a lot of stuff. We know it was a “false flag”, but we don’t know who actually placed the high frissive, demolition explosives on the structural steel of the Murrah Building, and we don’t completely understand why Bill Clinton appears to have directed his Attorney General, Janet Reno, to stand down the FBI looking into this dark complected John Doe #2. Jayna Davis is pretty certain that this was an operation by foreign special forces of Iraqi Intelligence (she says the leader is a man named Hussain Al-Hussaini. His background is certainly suspect, and he definitely appears to be an intel operative. He’s also a tremendous addict/alcoholic. That’s not uncommon among intelligence operatives.

      I guess people believe that Iraq could not have this level of capability to their intelligence operations. Well they do, or DID under Saddam Hussein. Most of those assets are now part of ISIS. YES! People don’t generally understand this.

      I guess nobody in the left orientation wants the Iraq of Saddam to appear to have conducted major terror operations like this. The other thing here is that Clinton has received massive donations from Middle East sources. He and his wife routinely seek to minimize M.E. connections as much as possible.

      Iraqi Intelligence – they do, or did have the level of capability to do this operation, though their home nation has undergone change recently. At the time of the bombing, Iraq had very likely placed intelligence operatives in most developed nations. They typically conducted assassination actions.

      The Partin study is something EVERYONE should read. It shows that the ANFO bomb in the RYDER TRUCK cannot produce this sort of damage to a building. NO! The bomb that McVeigh plotted to detonate, and did detonate, could barely shatter the front facing glass. The building itself, would have been intact, had only an ANFO bomb like McVeigh’s been detonated.

      Interestingly, Hussein Al-Husseini wound up working for a company which provided in-flight meals to Boston’s Logan Airport. Could he have had something to do with the box cutters that somehow came into possession of the 9-11 hijackers? All he had to do was assure that all Halal meals had this extra item.

  • William B Stoecker

    I think that we can safely assume that some of these guilty people, like Potts and the engineers who did the “investigations,” are probably still alive, and probably do not have Secret Service protection. They could be reached, and justice could be done. They could be taken alive and interrogated, using extreme techniques. Just a thought.

  • truth

    Definite, many unanswered questions.

    For X-Files fans, you may recall a particular episode where the “unknown” “John Doe insider”, is portrayed as a character playing as an undercover agent of the government throughout the series (Krycek). In that particular episode, a frame up is done to uncover a “bomb making plot similar to OKC.” Its from Season 4, Episode 8, “Tunguska.” An interesting series for including touches of reality and hinting of potentialities of certain events.

    X-Files also spawned the most predictive fiction ever with the Lone Gunman Series where unknown govt perps remotely hijack an airliner and attempt to crash it into the WTC buildings and blame, you guessed it, terrorists. That episode aired 6 months before 9/11 happened.

    • MrLiberty

      Well how about the X-Files movie in which explosives in the lobby actually blow up the Murrah building. What a bold choice of footage to include in a movie.

    • sharon oliveria

      Speaking Of X-Files as their Returning, Filming in June, Some one said on radio show, a very well know Radio Host He said that show on X-files It was just like what happened months later, how could that be they had to Know get that Info from the GOVT, Shortly after writer of The Show shows up at the Door of Radio Host & Says I heard your show Sat night, Your Right the Govt came to me with a Scrip & ask me to write a show with it, He turned & left. So followers Of X-Files might watch closely at next show’s we might see Reality not just a show. As Insider that worked for CIA Said Black-List & the American’s the Real Thing

      • Mark DeBarbieri

        I cannot remember his last name, but a man named John worked for the FBI and put out a warning that something was going to happen. He was transferred to the New York office located in the WTC and was found dead under a staircase after the 9-11 attack.

        • sharon oliveria

          Mark, Yes! they are let in on those secret things , that TV series ” Children of God”, I think where the Aliens talking to the children, then at the end shows Evil Beast with horns & hoofs & their destroying the Earth, they say this will be a deception coming Pope all set for welcoming Aliens really demons , no telling what they will bring to deceive . We know the truth ! Its not out there its In HERE ! in our Hearts Jesus is the Truth & answer for the World, no other as the song says. Blessings in Jesus !

          • Mark DeBarbieri

            Hi Sharon, sometimes God compensates the evils that are done to us by revealing things to help separate those who are willing to listen to God through His Holy Spirit, from the rest of the world. The so-called, “Evil Beast” you mention, is not an accurate description of Satan or even the demons. Yes, there is no doubt that the “Pope” (whoever he may be at the time of the end) will know where his power comes from… Satan! There is so much more to be said about this subject, because it goes wide and deep. Some of which can be found here;, or on Amazon in print form titled, “What Difference Does It Make?!” The book is mostly about law or more accurately stated, the two venues of law that contradict each other.

  • DVG

    I think those that keep promoting that the government is responsible for OKC and 9/11 are foreign agents or domestic terrorists trying to diffuse any attempts at defending the USA. As for OKC, read jayna Davis’ The Third Terrorist. The motel where McVeigh and Nichols plotted with arabs. There is extensive documentation to that effect. The night before the attack there were phone calls about the smell around the motel due to the stink of the fertilizer. She provides a plethora of details that had me jump out of my chair in disgust. The trips where Nichols traveled to the phillipines without his fillipino wife. Mohammed Atta actually signed in with his own name while using this motel during his flight training. I gave the book away and it’s been a while, but it left an impression that left me convinced Nichols and McVeigh were stooges.

  • Victor Musi-lunas

    OKC was not even on my radar… the Phoenix AZ Church of Tsadi held a open forum table discussion sometime in summer of 1991 and I told the members at the roundtable there would be terror attacks both at the WTC/Pentagon and some middle American city in the middle of the country that would be attacked by zealots (I gave Kansas City as the prime example of a middle class city in the American heartland) I gave a time frame for both terrorist events of ~5 to ~10 years and could not say which terror event would be first–> but that after the 2nd terror attack took place , the authorities would be able to tie both events to a single small group of perps…
    never considered OKC but I found in my cross-country drive OKC to be a very clean place that I would consider retiring at in the future

    • sharon oliveria

      Victor I was going some place one day, The Radio was on, I don’t Know What station , When you hit that button on the radio it went all over the Place, But it Hit on a Talk show, the man that called in was , For anyone ! hearing Very! Shaken & upset He some how had over heard a Conversation by pure Mistake talking about Plans for that next day, there would many to die, He pleaded with the Radio Host to please announce this, & gave Him much details on the where of it all, this talk show Host would not give Him the Time of day because He wouldn’t give His Name & way very rude to Him,He couldn’t give His name or He would be Next. Next day I heard about OKC I never not Shocked at people some times. As Jade- Helm 15 is in the works for going live & not Drill as being Reported we been told by insider’s A Red-Hit List will be in the making Grab & disappear Reporter’s Media Figures, Vets those that speak to Loud & far reaching Get prepared for things are going to change for the Worse, Borders Trojan Horse to use all Govt resources Like Welfare, Soc Sec, To Break the Country Call M-Law UN back thus OB remains Pres No New Election He will Be last American Pres God Help Us All!

  • mike2000917

    Those EYERACKIES did it. Seriously some local nut job anchorwoman wrote a book pinning the bombing on those dirty Iraqis/ Arabs. There is less than meets the eye here. Give it up.

  • truthbetold

    Musings2, you are correct. A horrific event much greater than OKC would have to take place before the neocon’s could invade Iraq/Afghanistan, and secure the oil rights for the oil barons here in this country. Who controls the oil also controls the power in the world. The U.S. is weak economically. Militarily, they are moderately strong, but China is strong both economically, and militarily. The neocons feared China’s growing population, and need for more oil would pose a threat to the United States superpower status. I hope there is a special place in hell for those who participated in this attack on their own citizens. Repentance on their death beds will not save their souls. God was watching.

  • Arizona

    Don’t speak chinese?well they do things differently then americans,WHEN your learning to KISS their ass,you don’t need to beg them,like you do the police gangs,or other federal government employees,and the good news is,when you’ve kissed and licked their ass clean,they just shoot you in the head,no more embarresing laughs from friends making fun of you goood law abiding citizens,WHO HAVE “SOLD” YOUR FAMILY DOWN THE CRAPPER………………….

  • Mark DeBarbieri

    Here are some other facts about the OKC bombing: The FBI confiscated all videos pointing in the direction of the bombing and are still missing.

    The ATF had offices in the Murrah Building, for which most of those employees were not in their offices on that day.

    All rescue operations were suspended for a period of 12 hours, so they could find papers.

    One grand juror was dismissed when he wanted to ask a question.

    Just one more thing, which is my own personal opinion; why didn’t McVeigh’s attorney get an expert witness as to the amount of damage done by a bomb placed outside the building? When I viewed the damage, I could not understand when viewing other car bombs the world over, via the news, only the
    face of the buildings were damaged. It was very clear to me that there was extensive structural damage that never occurred in any other car or truck bomb! I strongly suspect more bombs were placed inside, in order to increase the body count.

    • tionico

      true enough. Per the “inverse square law”, the force or energy reaching an area decreases as the square of the distance increaes. Yet even the news photos showed the entire face of the building dropped like a shorn curtain. Yet the truck with “the bomb” was parked in the middle, in front….. the sections fifteen feet away, just across the sidewalk, sustained the same amount of damage as the two upper corners, some hundred or more feet away (figuring ONLY ten feet per floor, a very low number). This is a physical impossibility.

      • Mark DeBarbieri

        Sir, I am not a scientist and terrible at math, so have to put my trust in your scientific explanation, which just backs up what I have surmised, based upon practical application with a dash of horse sense.

    • Ian Anderson

      Hi Mark
      Interesting perspective on the Murrah Bldg.
      The two incredibly in your face disasters that beg explanation are WTC 7 and how a 600ft bldg was dropped professionally in hours and not mths. Closely followed by a 150T airliner impacting the Pentagon with no debris and a single impact hole not 3 holes to account for 2 X lots of 5T turbines travelling at 500klm/hr
      Anyone heard of KE? SI Metric
      Try 1/2 (5 × 10 cubed kg) (5 X 10 fifth power m) in Newton Metres. ie 1.2 Billion nm.
      Big energy . Seriously big . Someone convert it to ergs please and relate to Tons of HE?Titanium and heavy high strength alloy Al.
      The US ” powers that be ” whoever the hell they maybe scare the pants off everyone incl the Chinese and the Russians. Don’t exclude us poor Aussies. Whenever Uncle Sam says jump we say how high?

      • Mark DeBarbieri

        Ian, I can explain both! The Pentagon was hit by a missile, which explains why there were no engines present. In every jet aircraft disaster, the engines are the strongest part of the aircraft and despite their uselessness, they are for the most part intact and recognizable. Oh yes, a very close friend of mine viewed a video of a missile on youtube, which quickly disappeared soon after he viewed it. My friend is also a flight simulator experimenter and there is no way that the so-called “aircraft” would never be able to reach its destination without much damage along the flight path, let alone hit the intended target.

        The explanation for “Building 7” is rather lengthy and controversial, but it is at least the most plausible. If one views the aftermath of the 9-11 attack from directly overhead, the same will notice many holes in adjacent buildings. These “holes” are collateral damage not from the collapse of the Towers, but from the “death ray” orbiting the Earth. As unbelievable as that sounds, hear me out. In 1943, Nicola Tesla died in his New York City hotel room. The government was very aware of Tesla’s experiments and magnificent mind. Tesla had plans for a “death ray” and once Tesla was dead, the government wasted no time to confiscate all his notes.

        Given the efficiency of the military, it was 4 years after Tesla’s death that so-called UFOs were coming into being; Roswell being the first sighting in 1947. This is what “Area 51” was all about and I was in direct contact with a man who worked 15 miles south of “Area 51” in a super secret place in a mountain, for which he was assigned to reverse engineer a so-called UFO. The exact details are not necessary for this particular comment. Tesla was also involved with anti-gravity theory and stealth technology, for which the SR-71 Blackbird was a giant leap in not only in stealth technology, but also in aircraft design. If one carefully examines the early articles about the SR-71, it is capable of mach 7-8! Kelly Johnson of the “Skunk Works” division of Lockheed Aircraft was the brains behind its design and construction and most likely had Tesla’s notes about such things.

        Now to the “Death Ray”… There is one particular video that shows some of the collapse of one of the Towers and if one looks closely, the same will notice a metal structural component vaporizing! This event dovetails with the fact that the weight of the Towers intact, did not coincide with the weight of the debris hauled off the site, for which the difference was hundreds tons! In theory, the “Death Ray” breaks down everything in its path by pulling apart matter at the molecular level, for which 12 firemen survived the collapse when they were directly underneath when it fell and they were merely “dusted”!!! The “Death Ray” is in orbit and much of the Shuttle flights were of a military nature.

    • Bill Jarett

      His own attorney LIED to John DeCamp who had successfully filed a restraining order with the presiding judge to prevent the Federal Government’s plan to demolish the structure before it had been forensically analyzed ( a mere three weeks after the attack if memory serves.} The attorney said he would resubmit the stay after arguing with DeCamp that as the defending attorney in the case he was the proper one to be handling the issue. The stay was not resubmitted, the building demolished before the defense had conducted any independent analysis (or the FEDS for that matter) of the existing scene of the crime.

      The presiding judge in the case? Merrick Garland…

      • Mark DeBarbieri

        Hi Bill and thank you for the additional information. There is no doubt that McVeigh was unknowingly acting as a patsy for the Clinton Administration, because at the time Clinton was sorely in need to get some anti-gun legislation passed and needed public support, for which the McVeigh plot provided a political opportunity that the Clinton Administration could not pass up.

        • Bill Jarett

          Was going from memory, hope it adds a few kernels to the puzzle…

          There are no “coincidences” in politics. OK saved Clinton and the Establishment from the giant patriot backlash that was brewing in 1995.

          • Mark DeBarbieri

            Correct, even FDR stated that anything political is planned!

  • Fred762

    I saw an early video of the bldg from a TV chopper..NO Crater in front. End of story..the “crater” shown later was a hole dug while repairing pipes, they said.

  • Sammy

    I think the incredibly fast execution of McVeigh was very unusual. Just 2 examples of death penalty cases that were never served: Sirhan Bishara Sirhan’s death sentence was commuted, John Warnock Hinckley, life. McViegh took a lot of info to the grave with him that could have lead to the co-conspirators in the bombing

    • TexasBrunette

      John Hinckley Jr. did NOT get life…he was actually found insane. He is now walking the streets again approximately 17 days out of the month. They are trying to get him “re-established” back into society, if you can believe that!! He should’ve been locked up for life…but he’s not.

      • Mark DeBarbieri

        Hinckley was found insane for only one reason… so he would not get a public trial!

  • darlene

    Sick F$$ks killed little kids …. when you look into STATE KILLINGS you realize we are all EXPENDABLE to them . But WE SEE THEM NOW and karma will come back to haunt them , watch the doc Engines of domination … it will open your eyes to the STATE LIES . Enjoy all .

  • William Burke

    The man’s name is spelled “Moussaoui”.

  • Roland Sciascia

    No wonder the Fed’s & T.P.T.B. wont let Zacarias Moussoui on the stand, as he’s already claimed it was inside job, so he has claimed lately. Damn, almost forgot, I must remember that they ‘ Hate us for our Freedoms – notice to self…. repeat 100 times, anytime common sense and critical thinking kick in.

  • World Peace Now

    This photo was taken by a curious reporter near McAlester OK some months before the OKC bombing and appeared in the now defunct Spotlight Newspaper. It was reported to be a temporary Army installation.

  • kbroo

    anyone remember a tv interview with a man and woman who claimed that they saw all sorts of suspicious activities at the building the day before the okc bombing, reported it to the police, maybe even the fbi ?

  • beijingyank

    The government is rogue and the terrrorists are inside the Beltway.

  • beijingyank

    The government is rogue and the terrrorists are inside the Beltway.

  • fizmath

    get the book by David Hoffman, published by Feral House. Banned by a judge.

  • Stevie B

    The earliest I can remember is the government murder of J.F.K. it has been going on ever since O.K.C. N.Y.C. they should bomb W.D.C. Washington D.C. our government is pathetic and transparent but whatever the news says is what people are going to believe people in this country are so fucking stupid it is pathetic

  • ChuckBoldwyn .

    Part 1 Debunking Dave Thomas, Bazant, Shyam Sunder, NIST & Judy Wood

    Part 2 Debunking Dave Thomas, Bazant , Sunder, NIST & Judy Wood, & the OKC micro-nukes bombings with multiple preplanted micro-nukes onto critical support columns of the Murray Building by the USA Federal Government Black-Op Agents with offices inside that same building

  • HardnoseMP

    I identified the OKC bombers for the ATF and FBI on April 21, 1995 and provided evidence that led to their arrest (google =Kansas gun dealer identified OKC bombers ceremony at Kansas legislature) all of us around Ft.Riley before the bombing that did business with McVeigh and Nichols seen a JD 2 with them !!!