You’re 55 Times More Likely to be Killed by a Police Officer than a Terrorist

Police Killings Grossly Underreported

We previously reported that Americans are 9 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.

But it turns out that our numbers were incorrect …

This isn’t surprising, given that:

Reliable estimates of the number of justifiable homicides committed by police officers in the United States do not exist.” A study of killings by police from 1999 to 2002 in the Central Florida region found that the national databases included (in Florida) only one-fourth of the number of persons killed by police as reported in the local news media.

The Guardian reports today:

An average of 545 people killed by local and state law enforcement officers in the US went uncounted in the country’s most authoritative crime statistics every year for almost a decade, according to a report released on Tuesday.

The first-ever attempt by US record-keepers to estimate the number of uncounted “law enforcement homicides” exposed previous official tallies as capturing less than half of the real picture. The new estimate – an average of 928 people killed by police annually over eight recent years, compared to 383 in published FBI data – amounted to a more glaring admission than ever before of the government’s failure to track how many people police kill.

The revelation called into particular question the FBI practice of publishing annual totals of “justifiable homicides by law enforcement” – tallies that are widely cited in the media and elsewhere as the most accurate official count of police homicides.

As shown below, that means that you’re 55 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.

You’re Much More Likely to Be Killed By Brain-Eating Parasites, Texting While Driving, Toddlers, Lightning, Falling Out of Bed, Alcoholism, Food Poisoning, Choking On Food, a Financial Crash, Obesity, Medical Errors or “Autoerotic Asphyxiation” than by Terrorists

Daniel Benjamin – the Coordinator for Counterterrorism at the United States Department of State from 2009 to 2012 – noted last month (at 10:22):

The total number of deaths from terrorism in recent years has been extremely small in the West. And the threat itself has been considerably reduced. Given all the headlines people don’t have that perception; but if you look at the statistics that is the case.

Time Magazine noted in 2013 that the chance of dying in a terrorist attack in the United States from 2007 to 2011, according to Richard Barrett – coordinator of the United Nations al Qaeda/Taliban Monitoring Team – was 1 in 20 million.

Let’s look at specific numbers …

The U.S. Department of State reports that only 17 U.S. citizens were killed worldwide as a result of terrorism in 2011.* That figure includes deaths in Afghanistan, Iraq and all other theaters of war.

In contrast, the American agency which tracks health-related issues – the U.S. Centers for Disease Control – rounds up the most prevalent causes of death in the United States:

Comparing the CDC numbers to terrorism deaths means:

– You are 35,079 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

– You are 33,842 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

(Keep in mind when reading this entire piece that we are consistently and substantially understating the risk of other causes of death as compared to terrorism, because we are comparing deaths from various causes within the United States against deaths from terrorism worldwide.)

Wikipedia notes that obesity is a a contributing factor in 100,000–400,000 deaths in the United States per year. That makes obesity 5,882 to 23,528 times more likely to kill you than a terrorist.

The annual number of deaths in the U.S. due to avoidable medical errors is as high as 100,000. Indeed, one of the world’s leading medical journals – Lancet – reported in 2011:

A November, 2010, document from the Office of the Inspector General of the Department of Health and Human Services reported that, when in hospital, one in seven beneficiaries of Medicare (the government-sponsored health-care programme for those aged 65 years and older) have complications from medical errors, which contribute to about 180 000 deaths of patients per year.

That’s just Medicare beneficiaries, not the entire American public. Scientific American noted in 2009:

Preventable medical mistakes and infections are responsible for about 200,000 deaths in the U.S. each year, according to an investigation by the Hearst media corporation.

And a new study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety says the numbers may be up to 440,000 each year.

But let’s use the lower – 100,000 – figure. That still means that you are 5,882 times more likely to die from medical error than terrorism.

The CDC says that some 80,000 deaths each year are attributable to excessive alcohol use. So you’re 4,706 times more likely to drink yourself to death than die from terrorism.

Wikipedia notes that there were 32,367 automobile accidents in 2011, which means that you are 1,904 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack. As CNN reporter Fareed Zakaria wrote last year:

“Since 9/11, foreign-inspired terrorism has claimed about two dozen lives in the United States. (Meanwhile, more than 100,000 have been killed in gun homicides and more than 400,000 in motor-vehicle accidents.) “

President Obama agreed.

According to a 2011 CDC report, poisoning from prescription drugs is even more likely to kill you than a car crash. Indeed, the CDC stated in 2011 that – in the majority of states – your prescription meds are more likely to kill you than any other source of injury. So your meds are thousands of times more likely to kill you than Al Qaeda.

The financial crisis has also caused quite a few early deaths. The Guardian reported in 2008:

High-income countries such as the UK and US could see a 6.4% surge in deaths from heart disease, while low-income countries could experience a 26% rise in mortality rates.

Since there were 596,339 deaths from heart disease in the U.S. in 2011 (see CDC table above), that means that there are approximately 38, 165 additional deaths a year from the financial crisis … and Americans are 2,245 times more likely to die from a financial crisis that a terrorist attack.

Financial crises cause deaths in other ways, as well. For example, the poverty rate has skyrocketed in the U.S. since the 2008 crash. For example, the poverty rate in 2010 was the highest in 17 years, and more Americans numerically were in poverty as of 2011 than for more than 50 years. Poverty causes increased deaths from hunger, inability to pay for heat and shelter, and other causes. (And – as mentioned below – suicides have skyrocketed recently; many connect the increase in suicides to the downturn in the economy.)

The number of deaths by suicide has also surpassed car crashes. Around 35,000 Americans kill themselves each year (and more American soldiers die by suicide than combat; the number of veterans committing suicide is astronomical and under-reported). So you’re 2,059 times more likely to kill yourself than die at the hand of a terrorist.

The CDC notes that there were 7,638 deaths from HIV and 45 from syphilis, so you’re 452 times more likely to die from risky sexual behavior than terrorism. (That doesn’t include death by autoerotic asphyxiation … discussed below.)

The National Safety Council reports that more than 6,000 Americans die a year from falls … most of them involve people falling off their roof or ladder trying to clean their gutters, put up Christmas lights and the like. That means that you’re 353 times more likely to fall to your death doing something idiotic than die in a terrorist attack.

The same number – 6,000 – die annually from texting or talking on the cellphone while driving. So you’re 353 times more likely to meet your maker while lol’ing than by terrorism.

The agency in charge of workplace safety – the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration – reports that 4,609 workers were killed on the job in 2011 within the U.S. homeland. In other words, you are 271 times more likely to die from a workplace accident than terrorism.

The CDC notes that 3,177 people died of “nutritional deficiencies” in 2011, which means you are 187 times more likely to starve to death in American than be killed by terrorism.

Approximately 1,000 Americans die each year from autoerotic asphyxiation. So you’re 59 times more likely to kill yourself doing weird, kinky things than at the hands of a terrorist.

As noted above, there were an average of 928 Americans killed by police officers in the United States each year in “justifiable homicides”. That means that you were more than 55 times more likely to be killed by a law enforcement officer than by a terrorist. That number does not include unjustifiable homicides.

Nearly 400 Americans die each year due to drug allergies from penicillin. More than 200 deaths occur each year due to food allergies. Nearly 100 Americans die due to insect allergies. And 10 deaths each year are due to severe reactions to latex. See this. There are many other types of allergies, but that totals 710 deaths each year from just those four types of allergies alone … making it 42 times more likely that you’ll die from an allergic reaction than from a terror attack.

Some 450 Americans die each year when they fall out of bed, 26 times more than are killed by terrorists.

Scientific American notes:

You might have toxoplasmosis, an infection caused by the microscopic parasite Toxoplasma gondii, which the CDC estimates has infected about 22.5 percent of Americans older than 12 years old

Toxoplasmosis is a brain-parasite. The CDC reports that more than 375 Americans die annually due to toxoplasmosis. In addition, 3 Americans died in 2011 after being exposed to a brain-eating amoeba. So you’re about 22 times more likely to die from a brain-eating zombie parasite than a terrorist.

Around 34 Americans a year are killed by dog bites … around twice as many as by terrorists.

The 2011 Report on Terrorism from the National Counter Terrorism Center notes that Americans are just as likely to be “crushed to death by their televisions or furniture each year” as they are to be killed by terrorists.

Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control show that Americans are 110 times more likely to die from contaminated food than terrorism. And see this.

The Jewish Daily Forward noted in May that – even including the people killed in the Boston bombing – you are more likely to be killed by a toddler than a terrorist. And see these statistics from CNN.

Reason notes:

[The risk of being killed by terrorism] compares annual risk of dying in a car accident of 1 in 19,000; drowning in a bathtub at 1 in 800,000; dying in a building fire at 1 in 99,000; or being struck by lightning at 1 in 5,500,000. In other words, in the last five years you were four times more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist.

The National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START) has just published, Background Report: 9/11, Ten Years Later [PDF]. The report notes, excluding the 9/11 atrocities, that fewer than 500 people died in the U.S. from terrorist attacks between 1970 and 2010.

Scientific American reported in 2011:

John Mueller, a political scientist at Ohio State University, and Mark Stewart, a civil engineer and authority on risk assessment at University of Newcastle in Australia … contended, “a great deal of money appears to have been misspent and would have been far more productive—saved far more lives—if it had been expended in other ways.”

chart comparing annual fatality risksMueller and Stewart noted that, in general, government regulators around the world view fatality risks—say, from nuclear power, industrial toxins or commercial aviation—above one person per million per year as “acceptable.” Between 1970 and 2007 Mueller and Stewart asserted in a separate paper published last year in Foreign Affairs that a total of 3,292 Americans (not counting those in war zones) were killed by terrorists resulting in an annual risk of one in 3.5 million. Americans were more likely to die in an accident involving a bathtub (one in 950,000), a home appliance (one in 1.5 million), a deer (one in two million) or on a commercial airliner (one in 2.9 million). [Let’s throw a couple more fun facts into the mix … The risk of choking to death on food is 1 in 4,404, and the risk of dying by falling out of furniture (including couches, chairs and beds) is 1 in 4,238. So you’re almost a thousand times more likely to die from one of these rare causes of death than terrorism.]

The global mortality rate of death by terrorism is even lower. Worldwide, terrorism killed 13,971 people between 1975 and 2003, an annual rate of one in 12.5 million. Since 9/11 acts of terrorism carried out by Muslim militants outside of war zones have killed about 300 people per year worldwide. This tally includes attacks not only by al Qaeda but also by “imitators, enthusiasts, look-alikes and wannabes,” according to Mueller and Stewart.

Defenders of U.S. counterterrorism efforts might argue that they have kept casualties low by thwarting attacks. But investigations by the FBI and other law enforcement agencies suggest that 9/11 may have been an outlier—an aberration—rather than a harbinger of future attacks. Muslim terrorists are for the most part “short on know-how, prone to make mistakes, poor at planning” and small in number, Mueller and Stewart stated. Although still potentially dangerous, terrorists hardly represent an “existential” threat on a par with those posed by Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

In fact, Mueller and Stewart suggested in Homeland Security Affairs, U.S. counterterrorism procedures may indirectly imperil more lives than they preserve: “Increased delays and added costs at U.S. airports due to new security procedures provide incentive for many short-haul passengers to drive to their destination rather than flying, and, since driving is far riskier than air travel, the extra automobile traffic generated has been estimated to result in 500 or more extra road fatalities per year.”

The funds that the U.S. spends on counterterrorism should perhaps be diverted to other more significant perils, such as industrial accidents (one in 53,000), violent crime (one in 22,000), automobile accidents (one in 8,000) and cancer (one in 540). “Overall,” Mueller and Stewart wrote, “vastly more lives could have been saved if counterterrorism funds had instead been spent on combating hazards that present unacceptable risks.” In an e-mail to me, Mueller elaborated:

“The key question, never asked of course, is what would the likelihood be if the added security measures had not been put in place? And, if the chances without the security measures might have been, say, one in 2.5 million per year, were the trillions of dollars in investment (including overseas policing which may have played a major role) worth that gain in security—to move from being unbelievably safe to being unbelievably unbelievably safe? Given that al Qaeda and al Qaeda types have managed to kill some 200 to 400 people throughout the entire world each year outside of war zones since 9/11—including in areas that are far less secure than the U.S.—there is no reason to anticipate that the measures have deterred, foiled or protected against massive casualties in the United States. If the domestic (we leave out overseas) enhanced security measures put into place after 9/11 have saved 100 lives per year in the United States, they would have done so at a cost of $1 billion per saved life. That same money, if invested in a measure that saves lives at a cost of $1 million each—like passive restraints for buses and trucks—would have saved 1,000 times more lives.”

Mueller and Stewart’s analysis is conservative, because it excludes the most lethal and expensive U.S. responses to 9/11. Al Qaeda’s attacks also provoked the U.S. into invading and occupying two countries, at an estimated cost of several trillion dollars. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have resulted in the deaths of more than 6,000 Americans so far—more than twice as many as were killed on September 11, 2001—as well as tens of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans.


In 2007 New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said that people are more likely to be killed by lightning than terrorism. “You can’t sit there and worry about everything,” Bloomberg exclaimed. “Get a life.”

Indeed, the Senior Research Scientist for the Space Science Institute (Alan W. Harris) estimates that the odds of being killed by a terrorist attack is about the same as being hit by an asteroid (and see this).

Terrorism pushes our emotional buttons. And politicians and the media tend to blow the risk of terrorism out of proportion. But as the figures above show, terrorism is a very unlikely cause of death.

Indeed, our spending on anti-terrorism measures is way out of whack … especially because most of the money has been wasted. And see this article, and this 3-minute video by professor Mueller:

Indeed, mission creep in the name of countering terrorism actually makes us more vulnerable to actual terrorist attacks. And corrupt government policy is arguably more dangerous than terrorism.

* Note: Subsequent official reports – published in 2012 and 2013 – show that even fewer Americans were killed by terrorists than in the previous year.

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  • Danny Straw

    This is why I wear armor and am always armed…ALWAYS BE ARMED…

    • Hp B

      I always keep a few donuts handy.
      To toss up in the air when the going gets rough.

      • OBAMA

        This is why i wear body armour


    i wouldn’t have a gun, and don’t know you atall, and i’ll take you out in less than sixty seconds

    • JdL

      i wouldn’t have a gun, and don’t know you atall, and i’ll take you out in less than sixty seconds

      If you’re facing someone with a gun, tough guy, he or she will take you out in less than six seconds. Why don’t you take some of that bravado and learn to spell and punctuate? Or wouldn’t that be as much fun as endlessly preening and posturing? I’ll bet you spend hours every day admiring yourself in the mirror.

      • bigbird2071


      • IRIQUOIS227

        just ending rodents like you

      • IRIQUOIS227

        you commit the logical fallacy of “the unknowable statistic.

      • IRIQUOIS227

        show the evidence

  • TerrorScaresMe

    Police gangs are a major menace to the safety of peaceful citizens throughout the “Western world”. They should be disarmed and disbanded.

    • Johnathan Myers

      Research the following terms: “Whitey Bulger and FBI” “Operation Gladio” “Counterintelpro” “Fast and Furious” “CIA and MS-13” et al. the criminals that run laws enforcement are arming, supplying, and recruiting the “gangs.” It’s a protection racket and it goes back thousands of years.

  • mw

    …. do those include deaths while incarcerated (prisons, jails, courthouses, police stations, police & prison vehicles), or just in public confrontations?

  • jsteele98

    “That number does not include unjustifiable [police] homicides.”

    There is no such thing. When was the last time a cop was charged with killing an innocent citizen. Don’t hold your breath.

    These figures do not report the number of INNOCENT CITIZENS killed by cops … the most recent numbers are over 350 per year.

    • JB Smith

      They have a new weapons called the “active denial system”. they can kill without leaving a mark and they brag about murdering and getting away with it. Check out Virginia tests “Active Denial system.” It allows torture too! See William and Mary’s website.

    • Flashbackjack

      Define innocent.

  • Incriminally Sane

    It’s almost to the point where all US Citizens be required to wear body armor just to protect them from the imminent threat of Death by Cop!
    When you have more than a 50% chance of dying in any police encounter, your mere existence on earth is threatened. Where do we go from here?

    • JB Smith

      Take back our country. Join Oathkeepers!

  • PigStateNews

    At least 188 people have been killed by U.S. police since January 1, 2015.
    At least 1,101 were killed in 2014.
    At least 2,053 have been killed since May 1, 2013.

    • JB Smith

      Check out the number of suicides. Their new weapon, Active Denial System, claims to create mass murderers and suicide victims.

  • anarchyst

    Here are “police” practices that deserve to be exposed:

    #1. During a traffic stop, the police officer will touch the back of your car. The reason for this “touch” is that, quite often, the police officer will have a small quantity of narcotics (marijuana or cocaine) on him (in his hand) that he will rub on the car in order to help “justify a search”. When the dog is brought in, it will react to the drug on the vehicle and help “justify a search”. This tactic is mostly used against young people. Drugs can also be “planted” on a “suspect”.
    The “touch” used to be a way for police officers to “prove” that they had an interaction with a citizen, but no more . . .

    #2. Most (if not all) cops possess a “throwdown” weapon. This “helper” is obtained from a criminal who is then “let go” without his weapon and is always used to justify a questionable police situation and to “sanitize” a “crime scene to absolve police on the scene of criminal police behavior.

    #3. If you are in the back of a police car, LIE DOWN on the seat. Police use the concept of “screening” to abuse their unwilling “passenger”. This involves, driving at high rates of speed, violent turns and other antics to get the passenger to “hit the screen” separating the front from the back with his face. Hence the act of “screening”.

    #4. If you are being handcuffed, quite often the police officer will wrench you arm behind you, forcing you to “turn around”. The officer will then add a charge of “assault” to whatever other charges they concoct against you (just for being forced to turn around). They “pile on” charges, hoping you will plead guilty to at least one.

    Remember–NEVER CONSENT TO SEARCH . . . You must be polite, but firm in your refusal. You can state that “you NEVER consent to searches” as well as using these “magic” words–“am I free to go?” The police officer MUST answer your question . . . If you are being detained and an illegal search takes place, you have legal recourse.

    Remember–police are not your friends . . .

    That being said, not all “law enforcement” is criminal, but the “thin blue line” that they so jealously guard (and “look the other way” when rogue cops abuse their authority) does much to taint ALL “law enforcement” with having ulterior motives.

    • bigbird2071

      Excellent! You taught me a few…thanx.

    • JB Smith

      They don’t try to hide it. State Trooper Jared Vance told me I didn’t have to commit a crime, he just had to make it look like I did. Virginia state police are the largest domestic cell of criminals in the nation – they have murdered and admit it. But you have to say that the judges are complicit. Karen Rodriguez, VA DCJS, is so sure that judges won’t hold her accountable for breaking and entering, grand larceny, etc. she put her crimes in writing. I witnessed a Virginia state trooper and a uniformed Hampton cop exit my home using a key provided by Shorty Wallin Lock Shop and Tweeds Lock Shop. She sent me a letter in the mail stating no action will be taken against the lock smiths. Police can get keys to anyone’s home and steal and vandalize all they want. They have stolen over $200,000 of my personal property. The judge said that was moot. Thanks Judge Allen and Mag. Judge Miller for upholding the Constitution! Judge Kalirus, Kerns and Masters are also complicit in crime!

      • Glenn McBride

        have you been able to document any of this illegal activity by law enforcement?

        • JB Smith

          I have thousands of pages over seven years and dozens of eye witnesses. They are so sure they can get away with crime, they’ll put it in writing. Criminals are stupid and there are none stupider than cops that should know better! Karen Rodriguez, VA DCJS, sent me a letter stating state police can get keys to anyone’s home and steal and vandalize anyone’s property she wants. I caught a uniformed Hampton police officer and a state trooper exit my home with a key taking software and laptops to black mail me with and they didn’t have a warrant. They said Shorty Wallin and Tweeds give them keys to anyone’s home. License plate numbers of caught cops: 8675US, 1811ME, 3889US, XMR2775, ABS973, SVU – green corvett, TAYSNU, KOMALUV, to name a few. I also have eye witnesses. I also applaud police in Richmond California that are now against the stalking evil police. They admit their crimes to me. In addition, Senator Kaine, Senator Warner, Scott Riggell and Randy Forbes also admitted it. I have judges on judicial misconduct and crime. Va Beach police investigated Mag. Judge Gregory Kalirus and said he violated state and local statute. I have lots of proof!

          • Glenn McBride

            Well that is all well and good, but do you have video evidence of cops entering or exiting your apartment? With the proliferation of mobile phones and cheap digital equipment, it is quite easy to record events that happen around us. Even more so if those events happen on a regular basis, as you assert. Good luck.

          • JB Smith

            I have neighbors as eyewitnesses as well as myself. 8675US, 1811ME, 3889US, TAYSNU, SVU, ABS973, are a few of the license plate numbers I have caught. My neighbor has a picture too!

          • Paulii

            My guess is that you are either lying, exaggerating, or have some criminal behavior in your life that you are trying to mask. I’ve been stopped and ticketed more than 20x in the past 20 years, and never has a cop tried to plant anything, accuse me of anything other than the offense I committed. Anecdotal stories to not make a trend – not mine, and not yours. Cops carry guns. Cops deal with criminals EVERY DAY. Of course they are going to kill some people, I’d like to overlay that 900# of deaths to the millions of arrests. This number is ridiculously nothing to be up in arms about. The 100,000 – 200,000 deaths every year due to medical mistakes, administering the wrong drugs, incompetence – how about we worry about that number, where 100% of the victims were innocent, and the fools killing them were probably distracted by Tetris, Farmworld, or whatever stupid thing that caused innocent death.

            100,000 vs a few hundred – why does Ostupid drone on about the hundreds, when the hundreds of thousands die completely senselessly?

          • JB Smith

            Jared vance Paul Compton Belinda Robinson Karen Rodriguez Eric Henderson Jose Hernandez Linda Pfeiffer dee Schwartz Cheryl dehaven Gregory Kalirus Richard kerns Thomas Shull Justin Briggs tony Passaro lawrence chang Dennis Cruff paroser dermatology arenda l wright allen Thomas e miller Darlene Bradberry Jeff Roesen Linda Curtis Joe Moore Kevin rojek Royce Curtin richard kerns Thomas Fitzgerald Gary Shawnik dean Franklin faye Garguelo Tamika green David green officer Crippen cassie Crippen Shawn cline David Olsen Johnny cope Joshua Coe Judith Dockery stephen Cunningham chad speak Stephen Lemtz Maru August Huffman Thomas e miller jr Jeff Roesen jeff Hunn thoas & associates Melissa Haynes Rachael wright Debra moss Linda Curtis Mary bunting Molly award Joseph wayne Russell Ira Lwang Bartel Howard Gwynn gave Morgan Antwon bell ken cuccinelli Mark herring Chris Moleen Mitch Pae Booz and Allen nnpd central district CHris seal Nate windley Dante Filetti ralph downey bob Kane bob McDonnell Teri McAuliff Eric holder usps Sean Flannery elizabeth cooper Raphael lupos BJ roberts Darrell Hollowell gisella by grads muck Monelly j Aldrich

          • JB Smith

            All are criminals. Which one are you?

          • JB Smith

            I’ve never committed a crime. Hampton Police hacked into my “protected computers”. Vice Mayor L. Curtis authorized this so that all my clients wouldn’t sue the city of Hampton. The entire state is full of corruption. S. Flaherty knows that his cops are torturing and murdering people. FBI Agents R. Curtin and K. Rojek are complicit as well as U. S. Attorney Stephen Campbell who was just doing his friends a favor. I proved the cops to be liars in court, but Judge Allen has done this to so many innocent citizens she knew she could be sued by them all. I am suing her!

        • JB Smith

          Yes. I have eye witnesses, pictures, they sent be a letter admitting it (Karen Rodriguez, VA DCJS) and license plate numbers: 8675US, 3889US, 1811ME, ABS973, KOMALIV, TAYSNU, XMR2775, etc.)

    • margova46

      And I always thought they were just simply leaving their finger-prints in that area just in case their thuggery takes a downward spiral.. as a way of identifying the “perps” vehicle. But, what do I know? lol

    • billorights

      Seems to me that on top of civilian review boards, SOMEBODY needs to look into the criteria used to hire police. I’ve read that prospective cops must score high on willingness to abuse people and other measures of psychopathy. Also, what kind of training do police get? I’ve read that almost all police departments in the U.S. get trained by Israeli commandos, who are used to shooting Palestinian children in the street! What kind of example is this setting for American cops to follow?

      • Johnathan Myers

        I’ve interviewed with a state law enforcement agency before, the lithmus test was a question regarding whether to shoot to kill or not in a hypothetical situation where lethal force wasn’t necessary, if you answered anything other than shoot to kill, you weren’t selected to proceed to the next round of qualification.

        • billorights

          Sheesh! If that is the case, it’s a miracle we don’t see cops gunning down innocent civilans every day. My next question would be: Just who is making these rules and what are they doing outside of a prison or a hangman’s noose?

          • You are taking this far too insanely. There are millions of police stops every month. Hoe many deaths? Most police never even discharge their weapon on duty during their lifetime! Stop lying.

        • fgt4urights

          Your story is similar to this one which made headlines not to long ago.

        • Which state and which board?

          There is no possible way this is true. I know officers and I was a cadet. This simply is not true where I am from (relatively close to Ferguson).

    • brianmacker

      “As noted above, there were an average of 928 Americans killed by police officers in the United States each year in “justifiable homicides”. That means that you were more than 55 times more likely to be killed by a law enforcement officer than by a terrorist. ”

      It is not so simple as this.

      Statistics always assume some sampling method. Both the terrorists and the police are practicing a form of sampling in choosing who they will kill. Which means that if you are outside the sample being the odds are calculated differently. Terrorist pick innocent victims randomly (and sometimes blow up the guilty by accident). Police tend to target criminals, but sometimes kill the innocent also.

      To see this sampling effect let’s use the example of the KKK lynching blacks. If the KKK lynched an average of 928 Americans per year then it is NOT true that “you were more than 55 times more likely to be killed by the KKK than by an [Islamic] terrorist. ” The odds are different for the in sample and out sample, blacks and whites respectively. For blacks the odds are much higher, and whites much lower. Since Islamic terrorists select randomly across then entire population we need not do further adjustment for that. However the KKK is selective picking nearly 100% black victims. So we need to adjust that 55 times more factor up because blacks are around 15% of the population. So it is 55/0.15 = 366.66… not 55. Blacks are 366 times as likely to be killed by the KKK than by terrorists in this hypothetical. Meanwhile for whites the odds are vastly greater they would be killed by a terrorist than the KKK because in this hypothetical no whites are being lynched.

      The purported sampling method being used in “justifyable homocides” is justification. Which means that if you are in the presence of a police officer and act in a way that justifies getting killed then your odds of being killed by the police vs. a terrorist increase dramatically, while on the other hand everyone else’s odds go dramatically downward.

      Your odds are going to be highest if you are doing things that might justify your shooting, when this is an honest claim. Cops do make mistakes so there is still some smaller odds for other situations, and that includes innocently reaching for a cell phone. But there are a range of behaviors that are more likely to get you killed like resisting arrest, not obeying the cops lawful orders, having a reputation for being violent, etc.

      Calculating these odds are not so simple as the article suggests and the government doesn’t even collect and publish data that can be used to determine all the possible scenarios. Just be comforted by the fact that the odds of being killed by a terrorist could very well be much higher than being killed by a cop if you don’t commit crimes or get involved with the police.

  • anarchyst

    There is much angst and consternation against prosecutors and grand juries who refuse to bring charges against police officers, even when incontrovertible evidence is presented. Even with incontrovertible audio and video evidence, prosecutors are loath to prosecute rogue law enforcement personnel.
    Let’s examine the reasons why it is so difficult to prosecute thug cops:
    Most prosecutors are former police officers or have extensive dealings with police departments and have ongoing relationships with police departments in their respective jurisdictions. They are friendly with the judges in their jurisdictions, as well. This, along with “absolute immunity” makes it easy for them to “cover up” police abuses and behavior. Prosecutors cannot be sued for malfeasance…it takes a judge (who prosecutors are friendly with) to bring charges on a rogue prosecutor (which almost never happens).
    In addition, prosecutors guide the actions of grand juries. Prosecutors are not required to introduce any evidence to grand juries, (can and do) easily “whitewash” the actions of rogue cops. On the other hand, prosecutors can (and often do) go after honest citizens who seek justice outside official channels…prosecutors have ultimate power and are not afraid to use it…their immunity sees to that.
    Another aspect to a grand jury’s inability to prosecute bad cops is the fear of retribution…cops drive around all day, have nothing but time, have access to various databases, and can easily get the names and addresses of grand jurors…this, in itself can be a powerful deterrent against grand jurors who “want to do the right thing” and prosecute bad cops. There are many cases of cops parking in front of grand jurors’ residences, following them around, and threaten to issue citations to them, in order to “convince” them to “make the right decision”…the “thin blue line” at its worst…
    The whole system has to change.
    Eliminate absolute and qualified immunity for all public officials. The fear of personal lawsuits would be a powerful deterrent against abuses of the public.
    Grand juries must be superior to the prosecutor; ALL evidence must be presented to grand jurors. Failure to do so must be considered a felony and subject prosecutors to prosecution themselves.
    No police agency can be allowed to investigate itself. Internal affairs departments must be restricted to minor in-house investigations of behavior between cops. All investigations must be handled by outside agencies, preferably at the state level.
    Civilian police review boards must be free of police influence. Members of civilian review boards must have NO ties to police departments. Relatives of police would be prohibited from serving…Recently, the “supreme court” threw police another “bone”. The court ruled that police are not responsible for their actions if they are “ignorant of the law”…now, let’s get this straight–honest citizens cannot use “ignorance of the law” as an excuse, but cops can??
    Revolution is sorely needed…..

  • JB Smith

    ..The American Reinvestment and Recovery Act and the brain initiative are the worst scams ever perpetrated on the American people. Former U. S. Surgeon General Regina Benjamin Warns:
    Biochips Hazardous to Your Health: Warning, biochips may cause behavioral changes and high suicide rates. State Attorney Generals are to revoke the licenses of doctors and dentists that implant chips in patients. Chip used illegally for GPS, tracking, organized crime, communication and torture. Virginia state police have been implanting citizens without their knowledge and consent for years and they are dying! Check out William and Mary’s site to see the torture enabled by the biochip and the Active Denial System. See Terrorism and Mental Health by Amin Gadit or A Note on Uberveillance by MG & Katina Michael or Safeguards in a World of Ambient Intelligence by Springer or Mind Control,
    Microchip Implants and Cybernetics. Check out the audio spotlight by Holsonics.

    Former Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) director and now Google Executive, Regina E. Dugan, has unveiled a super small, ingestible microchip that we can all be expected to swallow by 2017. “A means of authentication,” she calls it, also called an electronic tattoo, which takes
    NSA spying to whole new levels. She talks of the ‘mechanical mismatch problem between machines and humans,’ and specifically targets 10 – 20 year olds in her rant about the wonderful qualities of this new technology that can stretch in the human body and still be functional. Hailed as a ‘critical shift for
    research and medicine,’ these biochips would not only allow full access to insurance companies and government agencies to our pharmaceutical med-taking compliancy (or lack thereof), but also a host of other aspects of our lives which are truly none of their business, and certainly an extension of the
    removal of our freedoms and rights.

    The ARRA authorizes payments to the states in an effort to encourage Medicaid Providers to adopt and use “certified EHR technology” aka biochips. ARRA will match Medicaid $5 for every $1 a
    state provides. Hospitals are paid $2 million to create “crisis stabilization wards” (Gitmo’s) where state police torture people – even unto death. They stopped my heart 90 times in 6 hours. Virginia state police have murdered so many already and admit to it!

    Mary E. Schloendorff, v. The Society of New York Hospital 105 N. E. 92, 93 (N. Y. 1914) Justice Cardozo states, “every human being of adult years and sound mind has a right to determine what shall be done with his own body; and a surgeon who performs an operation without his patient’s consent, commits an assault, for which he is liable in damages. (Pratt v Davis, 224 Ill. 300; Mohr v Williams, 95 Minn. 261.) This case precedent requires police to falsely arrest you or kidnap you and call you a mental health patient. You can also be forced to have a biochip if you have an infectious disease – like Eboli. Coalition of Justice vs the City of Hampton, VA settled a case out of court for $500,000 and removal of the biochip. Torture is punishable by $1,000 per day up to $2 million; Medical battery is worth $2.05 million. Come to Virginia and get your money! They can be held personally liable under color of the law.

    • |Redacted|

      “use “certified EHR technology” aka biochips. ”

      EHR stand for electronic health record, not a biochip, you crazy person. How you make that leap makes no sense at all.

      • JB Smith

        Did you not read the part I quoted from former DARPA director? They are telling doctors it is “certified electronic records”, but it is for surveillance. You need to get an education or just read!

        • |Redacted|

          All you are missing is a little proof and probably an antipsychotic.

          • JB Smith

            Karen Rodriguez, VA DCJS, sent me a letter stating state police can get keys to anyone’s home and steal and vandalize anyone’s property she wants. I caught a uniformed Hampton police officer and a state trooper exit my home with a key taking software and laptops to black mail me with and they didn’t have a warrant. They said Shorty Wallin and Tweeds give them keys to anyone’s home. License plate numbers of caught cops: 8675US, 1811ME, 3889US, XMR2775, ABS973, SVU – green corvett, TAYSNU, KOMALUV, to name a few. I also have eye witnesses. I also applaud police in Richmond California that are now against the stalking evil police. They admit their crimes to me. In addition, Senator Kaine, Senator Warner, Scott Riggell and Randy Forbes also admitted it. I have judges on judicial misconduct and crime. Va Beach police investigated Mag. Judge Gregory Kalirus and said he violated state and local statute. I have lots of proof!

          • JB Smith

            No, I have proof and have submitted it to a judge.

      • JB Smith

        Yes, it also is the reason doctors are cooperating. They are being lied to!

  • todd raible

    police are the terrorists

    god bless cop killers

    • Madman1972

      You are an idiot!

    • Johnathan Myers

      False Flag Statement

  • Pigs ARE terrorists.

  • margova46

    If there wasn’t a whole lot of money in “policing”.. there would be no such thing as cops. Everything they do points to generating revenue. Other than that, they’re useless and a waste of time, money.. and well, oxygen.

  • MrMosley

    Police are the most dangerous Gang on the streets. I’m terrified of the Police where I’m from they don’t come when you call 911 unless someone’s being shot.

  • Vladimir Gagic

    you are much, much more likely to be killed by cancer than a drunk driver. Therefore, it’s time to stop enforcing drunk driving laws and let everyone drive as they drunk as they please.

  • October 23, 2014 Special report: America’s perpetual state of emergency

    The United States is in a perpetual state of national emergency. Thirty separate emergencies, in fact. An emergency declared by President Jimmy Carter on the 10th day of the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979 remains in effect almost 35 years later. A post-9/11 state of national emergency declared by President George W. Bush — and renewed six times by President Obama — forms the legal basis for much of the war on terror.

  • Police Have No Duty To Protect Individuals

    Self-Reliance For Self-Defense — Police Protection Isn’t Enough! All our lives, especially during our younger years, we hear that the police are there to protect us. From the very first kindergarten- class visit of “Officer Friendly” to the very last time we saw a police car – most of which have “To Protect and Serve” emblazoned on their doors – we’re encouraged to give ourselves over to police protection.

  • ounceoflogic

    Where does death by Global Warming stand compared to death by Terrorist, and why isn’t it on the list? What are the comparative odds of a black man being killed by another black man versus by a cop and why isn’t that on the list?

  • A. Wyatt Mann

    Black gang terrorism has killed almost 100k black people in the last 14 years – over 130k people if we include victims of all races. Where does information rank?

  • Randall Foltyniewicz
  • I wish the title was a bit more accurate. It should say:

    “You’re 55 Times More Likely to be Killed UNJUSTIFIABLY by a Police Officer than a Terrorist”

    since there are many instances where cops are justified in killing people.

  • matt miller

    Bullsh*t. You are more likely to be killed by a police officer than terrorists…IF YOU ARE ENGAGED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY or a GANG MEMBER. And what are the percentages of people (any race) killed by BLACKS vs.WHITES? Did you do THAT comparison? Black on Black murder and Black on White (or other)?

  • Mike Striker

    You’re less likely to get killed by a police officer if you don’t commit a crime. If you are killed by the police while committing a crime..then nice shooting officer.

    Here’s a simple solution….DON’T BREAK THE LAW!

  • Batman

    The statement that,”Approximately 1,000 Americans die each year from autoerotic asphyxiation,” is incorrect. The source you cited was from 2005 and it says, “…and as many as 1,000 Americans each year stumble upon the bodies of their loved ones…” That statistic is not backed up on that site and gives no credible source.

  • This is a dumb comparison and the title is a lie. We come into contact with police all the time. How often do we come into contact with terrorists?

    The real question is what are the odds of dying in each interaction with an officer?

    What are the odds of dying during an interaction with a terrorist?

    I’m willing to bet that you are more likely to drop dead from a freak heart attack than you are to be killed by a cop. Besides, you cannot assume numbers like this. Police deal with very bad people. They deal with gangs, mobs, cartels, and all sorts of unsavory characters. I’m willing to guess a lot of those deaths are fully due to the other person being a homicidal criminal.

  • Jenna M

    the only people who are going to read this entire article, are people who are already educated and know this shit already. if you want to enlighten and spread information you have to simplify it.

  • Stew

    I am all about holding people accountable, however looking over the data points above these are just made up. They are not even close…total homicides in 2006 was around 5,000 not 15,000. Total number of Soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2011 was over 600. Those are the only two data points I checked, you’re entitled to your own opinion…not your own facts.

  • Jeremiah Brooks

    Yes your statistics are probably accurate, ….if you are a criminal! Dumbasses.

  • 0jr

    you are more likely to get killed by a colored black negro than a cop .More people were killed in chicago last year than in afganistan and more than nyc and la combined.fbi reported that 85% of all white people murdered were by blacks.You are 100 times more likely to get killed by a black thug than a cop.More white people get kiled by cops than blacks

  • James Morton

    You do know it’s a policemans job to kill people u fucking idiots