Fox ‘News’ ‘Expert’ Says We Must “Start Killing Russians.” I Disagree.

Eric Zuesse

On this video from Fox ‘News’:

At 3:30, Lou Dobbs asks the Fox Noise military analyst: “What do you expect” in Ukraine?

At 3:35 he answers: “In the Ukraine, the only way that the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians …  killing so many Russians that even Putin’s media can’t hide the fact that Russians are returning to the motherland in body bags.”

Well, anyway, there is a Republican ‘news’ operation: “Start killing Russians.” They hate Russians so much the hate practically bleeds from them, even in public. Democratic Party ‘news’ operatives are so much more subtle about it, such as “A military solution to this problem is not going to be forthcoming.” But they too demonize Russians and portray Putin as the super-demon. They’re just more subtle about their war-mongering and promotion of the international aristocracy, than Republicans are.

What the Fox ‘expert’ was specifically promoting there, to “Kill Russians,” is actually what the regime that Obama imposed upon Ukraine had been installed in order to do. And, so, immediately when they took power in late February of 2014, they demonized ethnic Russians and threatened to kill all Russians. They then intensively bombed the ethnic Russian region of Ukraine, as a starter to get rid of Russians and pro-Russians everywhere.

However, Fox’s ‘expert’ was suggesting to kill Russian troops inside Ukraine, which wouldn’t have been quite as heartless as what the Obama-coup-regime in Ukraine is actually doing (and which Fox and all of U.S. TV ignore): slaughtering the residents in the conflict-zone. The only snafu with that idea of killing Russian troops in the conflict-zone is: they aren’t there. The few Russian soldiers that actually had been in the conflict-zone, briefly, back in August of 2014, soon left and are no longer there. On 29 January 2015, Ukraine’s top general admitted, “No Russian Troops Are Fighting Against Us,” though mercenaries and/or volunteer fighters from many countries (including from the U.S.) were fighting on both sides (America’s were mercenaries, fighting for the Ukrainian Government). So: Fox’s ‘information’ was six months out-of-date, and had been valid only seven months ago, and for less than a month even then. That’s the trash that Fox Noise puts forth, but it’s really not much worse than CNN etc. American national ‘news’ media are virtually all propaganda-media.

The Fox commentator simply cannot fathom that when the Ukrainian Government started bombing the cities and villages in the region of Ukraine that rejected the coup-government — the Donbass region — many of its men took up arms and became unwilling soldiers in order to protect their families, friends, and towns and villages, against the bombers and the other invaders. The Donbass defenders are not Russian soldiers. They’re overwhelmingly the natives there — the ones that are still alive and haven’t fled.

Such commentators as this crude and callous man at Fox have no idea, no concept, how much higher is the motivation to fight when what one is fighting against is invaders, and what one is fighting for is the land on which one has lived one’s whole life and where one’s parents spent their whole lives. Bullies don’t think about things from the victim’s standpoint. And Fox’s commentator viewed things from a bully’s perspective.

Yes, Russia provides military advice and training (to the victims’ side), just as the U.S. provides military advice and training (to the invading side), but is that a crime when Russia does it? It’s a crime when America does it, because America (via its stooge-regime) is the invader, and because Ukraine (by virtue of its proximity to Russia) has at least as much strategic importance to Russia today as Cuba did to the United States during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. What’s the crime here is America’s determination to place nuclear missiles in Ukraine, right on Russia’s border — and that’s the reason behind that coup in Ukraine (and the head of Stratfor called it “the most blatant coup in history,” but you didn’t read about that coup in places such as TIME or The New York Times). (Oh, they called it a victory for democracy. That’s like 1984 ‘democracy.’) And Putin should demand that the U.S. get out of Russia’s neighborhood. If Russia surrounded the U.S. with its bases, would we stand for it? Why should they?

Communism is over. The only reason for what Obama is doing in Ukraine is conquest. It’s raw; it is fascist, but in pretty words.

Many of Europe’s leaders don’t have the stomach for that disgusting crime which America’s President and Congress are perpetrating against Russia — first, the coup, and then the genocide against the residents in Donbass. So, there is resistance in the EU (though not in the U.S., which shows how virtually total is the propaganda here — it’s like a dictatorship).

Right now, the man whom Victoria Nuland of Obama’s State Department appointed on 4 February 2014 (18 days before the coup), to lead the post-coup Ukrainian government, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, is still determined to destroy Russia. But if this fact, alone, isn’t enough to get the decent nations in Europe to abandon the U.S. and even to leave both NATO and the EU and maybe to join with Russia if necessary to do so, then we are all headed for a nuclear war, because the psychopathy reigning at the very top of the U.S. Government is really extreme and has careened out of control. Never before in history has an American President installed an outright nazi government, anywhere.

What’s shown on Fox Noise is merely a more-honest version of that psychopathy, but the psychopathy is just as bad on the more subtle ‘liberal’ side. (And also see this.) 

The only thing that can even possibly restrain it now is Europe’s abandonment of it — and of the U.S. And, if that’s simply too much to ask from Europe, then there will be curtains soon for all of planet Earth, because Putin won’t be able to tolerate much longer the American Government’s surrounding Russia with its and NATO’s military bases and missiles.

When Obama took over Ukraine, in February 2014, Putin had to respond, and he did. (Russia is being punished for responding, but the U.S. isn’t being punished for the coup and ethnic cleansing that Russia is only responding to. In international affairs, there is no justice.) But if America doesn’t reverse itself now and just back off, the entire world will suffer enormous consequences. America won’t need to apologize; tyrannical regimes don’t do that. What’s needed instead is for the tyranny to stop, and only Europe and Japan possess the ability to get this country to do that.

The American Presidents from Reagan on, and certainly after Reagan, have consistently followed this plan of encircling and choking-off Russia, and have by their actions defined America throughout this time as the supreme rogue nation, and its ’news’ media are all just part of that propaganda-operation, for lying this nation into so many invasions, which destroy so many nations. Either the super-rogue will stop, or the world will stop.

Because things have gotten to such a point that either America will be stopped peacefully by its allies abandoning it, or else America will be stopped violently by Russia preemptively nuclear-attacking it, which will destroy the whole world.

The fate of the world is in the hands of America’s allies, who must quickly become former allies.

The world’s big bully on the block needs to become isolated; he needs to lose his gang. That’s what needs to happen, now.

In Gallup’s only international poll on the subject (in 2014), which surveyed 66,000 people in 65 nations, the U.S. was overwhelmingly the most frequently cited nation as being “the greatest threat to peace in the world today.” And that was before the coup, and before the ethnic cleansing, which have placed the world clearly on the path to nuclear annihilation. Russia wasn’t even among the top seven nations that were mentioned in that poll. But now the big bully on the block is going after him. Will the bully’s friends join in? Let’s hope not. Let’s hope they’ll abandon him — and quickly.

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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of  They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010,  and of CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity, and of Feudalism, Fascism, Libertarianism and Economics.

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  • Robert Barsocchini

    The Fox guy said we should kill so many Russians that “Putin’s media can’t hide the fact that Russians are returning to the motherland in body bags.”

    As in, exactly what the US does?

    Censorship American-Style: Hide the US Dead

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-lindorff/censorship-american-style_b_281828.html

    Pentagon censors images of US soldiers’ coffins returning from Iraq

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2004/04/coff-a24.html

    Pentagon Rethinks Its 18-Year Ban on Photos and Videos of Coffins Bearing War Dead Home

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/16/AR2009021601480.html

    But like everything else, it’s fine when we do it, and there are reasons for it. If anyone else does it, it is Hitler, and no reason exists (“others” are all insane and thus purely irrational) except possibly to help them exterminate people.

    • Nexusfast123

      What a prick. Does he think all the dead will be from one side only.

      One thing they did was try to recruit more from lots of small towns and communities. I’m guessing that the idea was to reduce the impact of the dead returning. Imagine the impact if 20 or 30 bodies a week were returning to a large city like Boston.

    • cettel

      EXACTLY!!!
      Robert, why do I always agree with you? (Must be because you’re always right?)

    • Tom Welsh

      This is the “Rove Doctrine”. “Whatever you do that is evil, blame your opponent for it first.”
      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/09/11/780012/-The-Rove-Doctrine

      • Robert Barsocchini

        This is also what the US is doing re Venezuela right now, declaring it a threat when the opposite is the case.

  • truth

    Perhaps these knucklehead politicians should be the first ones sent in against crack militias defending their territory, or if they would like to step into Russian territory they’ll be facing plenty of regular Russian troops ready to defend their homeland.

    But let’s be real, America or NATO attacking Russia would end as it always does throughout history. Surrounded and annihilated, just like Napoleon’s and Hitler’s foolish invasions. And, as always, the cost of human life would be devastating.

    • B. Miles Teg

      Take control of your foreign policy. Bring back conscription in the US… that’ll set the cat amongst the blackwater pidgeons and drones too…

  • MC

    Merkel seems to be talking out of both sides of her mouth …….toothless.

  • lorenzo

    Starting with computers (wardware and softwate) to flight companies, I have decided not to buy any US made item. I do not believe the US people is so silly. But the whole world is fed up with their foreign policy.

  • rpdiplock

    I wonder how Faux-News would have presented the ‘expert-opinion’ had it been a Russian, Iraqi, Afghani, Cuban, Chinese, Vietnamese, German, Sudanese, Iranian, Egyptian, Syrian, etc. ‘expert’ proselytizing about murdering Americans, British or Israeli, or other fifth-column agents-provocateur who required killing, in their homelands? Christ knows, these other countries have a lot more to fear from our ‘humanitarian’ and other pretend [self] interest groups, than we need to fear of the Russians or any other potentially demonised world leader, for that matter. Take ISIS for example, they’re obviously a US/UK/Neocon construct, operating as a quasi-boogeyman – useful as a proxi-fulcrum, to provide cover for entry into Syria, Libya … and God knows where else.

  • suzannedk

    The directives coming from the United States to eliminate Russia and Russians, eviscerate the largest nation on earth, remove it from all maps, merely illustrates the United States basic insanity of all their leaders going back to horny William Clinton and his enraged, ambitious wife, Hilary. If the next US war president she will be all about to getting even with William and her critics. As shown in Libya, over which war she was put in charge, she adores bloodletting. Of the US helpful ally she triumphantly stated after his public anal gutting:”We Came! We Saw! He’s dead!” Paraphrasing Bush 1’s obsessive linking of the US with ancient Rome. In reality we are a nation of 300 million humans who have been lied to by their media and leaders for over 30 years to the point they no longer matter to any leaders who become empowered. We are a lost people. That China is buying us up, Russia, Greece and China are saying: :”No way Jose!” to our government and corporations, may be the best thing the 21st century gives us.Our leaders are setting us up to fight the Chinese tooth and nail, except under them we have close to 50% unemployment with no prospects in sight.

    • Tom Welsh

      As a boy, I shuddered over the gory details of P.C. Wren’s novel “Beau Geste”, in which Touareg women torture wounded French Foreign Legionnaires to death after a battle. I couldn’t believe that women, whom I had only experienced as kind, gentle, and caring, could behave that way. Now I have seen a woman who is U.S. Secretary of State behaving that way – for I have no doubt at all that she would willingly do the torturing herself if she had the chance, cackling with hideous glee.

  • James Whitten

    As the American father of a Russian daughter, I would like to invite this Fox News expert prick to step outside. This asshole and everyone like him can go straight to Hell.

    • Tom Welsh

      If this asshole has his way, we shall ALL be going straight to Hell. “Seven billion hunks of well-done steak”.

  • MCB

    Kill Russians? Is this guy related to Curtis LeMay? This is pure, unadulterated insanity.

    • Robert Barsocchini

      no kidding. Imagine a Russian saying this about Americans.

      • MCB

        If Americans say it Robert, it’s American pragmatism; if Russians say it, it’s Russian aggression.

    • Tom Welsh

      I think he may be Buck Turgidson’s son or grandson. There is a distinct family resemblance.

  • Mark Wengler

    This person want to start WW3 and destroy all life on the planet.

  • Robert Barsocchini

    Russians noticed this guy’s statement:

    http://rt.com/usa/240829-kill-russians-fox-general-defiant/

    The guy responded and said of course this makes Russia mad bc they hate freedom (ie American death threats) so much. He forgot to mention that the US blows up people (drone) that it claims make statements like his.

    • Tom Welsh

      “…they hate freedom…”

      Yeah, the American freedom to murder foreigners in any numbers, at any time and place, for any reason or none, without the slightest pretence of justification or due process.

  • You should UPDATE this post with this:

    LOOK ***CLOSELY*** at one of the pictures in this great NYTimes article about “PENTAGON PUNDITS” in the “news” on TV.

    Look at 1 of the 6 “pentagon pundits” in the main picture: it’s ROBERT “BOB” SCALES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The “expert” on Lou Dobbs!!!!!!!!!!!

    WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THAT? (answer: 100% because FOX is propaganda)

    Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon’s Hidden Hand

    To the public, these men are members of a familiar fraternity, presented tens of thousands of times on television and radio as “military analysts” whose long service has equipped them to give authoritative and unfettered judgments about the most pressing issues of the post-Sept. 11 world.
    Hidden behind that appearance of objectivity, though, is a Pentagon information apparatus that has used those analysts in a campaign to generate favorable news coverage of the administration’s wartime performance, an examination by The New York Times has found.

    The effort, which began with the buildup to the Iraq war and continues to this day, has sought to exploit ideological and military allegiances, and also a powerful financial dynamic: Most of the analysts have ties to military contractors vested in the very war policies they are asked to assess on air.
    Those business relationships are hardly ever disclosed to the viewers, and sometimes not even to the networks themselves.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

  • Stive

    I wish to kill every Russian scum on the planet Earth!

  • Stive

    All Russian are underhumans

  • White Mule

    Are you COMPLETLY stupid? Not ignorant, Just plain stupid. Motherfucking polls? Really?