If Muslims Are Responsible for Muslim Terrorism …

If Muslims are responsible for Muslim terrorism, then …

All Christians are responsible for Ku Klux Klan violence against African-Americans.

And all Christians are responsible for the Norwegian terrorist who murdered 77 civilians.

And all Christians are responsible for the Spanish Inquisition and all Christian fundamentalist violence.

And all Christians are responsible for Hitler and the Nazis.

And all Jews, Hindus and Buddhists are responsible for all of the terrorism carried out by the crazy extremists who use the name of their religions as well.

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  • Matt

    then americans are responsible for american terrorism around the world, but lets not blame everyone because some are just plain scum of the earth and both sides have plenty of that to go around

    • SOIA

      You are absolutely right , and the sooner the people wake up and realise this ,the better for everyone and this planet.

  • Steve

    No person in history has been more maligned and libeled than Adolph Hitler.

    • Rafael Espericueta

      And even fewer who so clearly deserve such treatment.

      • SOIA

        If you believe all the lies. He was no saint for sure , and i’m glad the Nazi-Reich is gone
        but one has to be honest , there are still a lot of warpropaganda-lies and falsehoods told about Hitler which documents of that time clearly contradict. How does that saying go?
        “History is written by the victors”

        • terramare

          Some things are off-limits to western “freedom of speech”..Charlie Hebdo will never publish a holocaust cartoon, I’d bet.

          • SOIA

            Nor a cartoon about Moses , with a big nose and sidecurls , in the same position as one of the Mohammed cartoons and a star of David in the same place

    • SOIA

      True as that may be , but he wasn’t a saint either , just like a lot of his contemporaries

  • Rafael Espericueta

    Buddhist extremists is an oxymoron. There are no beliefs to be extremist about. In Sri Lanka, there was some violence, which was due to the intolerance of the Muslim population. How can intolerance of others ever be tolerated? Religious belief becomes bigotry as soon as it manifests as intolerance.

    • Randa

      Funny. I just wrote to a friend yesterday that “Muslim Extremist is an oxymoron.”

      • Rafael Espericueta

        In what sense? Surely there are Muslim extremists, i.e., fundamentalists who believe in killing infidels.

        • Randa

          Not that I know of. Every Muslim I have ever met has been a most peaceful person. Collectively, Muslims are respectful and generous and extremely compassionate.

          “Can’t have that!” say TPTB.

          So you and the rest of collective humanity has accepted the media message that Muslims are monsters, when the opposite is closer to Truth. It does get a bit complicated by the infiltration by the west of Muslims in Saudi Arabia, for example. These guys are working for and with the west. They’ve been in bed with Israel for a very long time. Like ISIS, these are fake Muslims which basically translates into not Muslim at all.

          Muslim extremism? Does not exist. Unless of course you buy the 9/ll Muslim box cutter hijacker theory.

          • Rafael Espericueta

            I see what you mean.
            Yea, that box cutter conspiracy theory is almost certainly false.

        • SOIA

          Just as there are fundamental christians and jews for example who believe the same. Only they hide in the closet and let the killing be done by various countries militairy under the guise of lofty phrases of defending ‘freedom ‘ and ‘democracy’etc.

    • SOIA

      I think a lot of Rohingya in Burma and Thailand will not agree with you

  • Rafael Espericueta

    It’s always wrong to blame everyone in a group for the actions of a few.

    As an American, I sure don’t want to be blamed for US actions around the world! Everyone I’ve ever voted for lost, so those in power never represent me in any way. Quite the contrary. I would emigrate if I could, but don’t have the extraordinary resources necessary to do so. When I travel, I say I’m from California, which takes some of the stigma away about being an American (the land of torture and endless war). Well, it did until Arnold became governor, which was not just a little embarrassing.

    • Phil

      “Everyone I’ve ever voted for lost, so those in power never represent me in any way.”

      But Muslims decide as a free choice to follow Islam, it is not like they have no say in that matter.

  • Prathiba

    Most of the ‘Terrorists’ are Victims or Freedom Fighters. Actual terrorists are the creators of terrorism. If JUSTICE denied one may become aggressive. Terrorist makers are mainly Rulers, Court of Justices or Authorities.

  • warren

    The Koran tells Muslims to make war on infidels, kill their children and take their property. The Old testiment of the Bible is full of violence, hatred, and the evil acts of man against man glorified in the ‘Good Book”. Religions implore people to war against other people in the name of God. I believe in a God, but we would all be better off without any religions.

    • PJ London

      And you don’t have any idea of the meaning of the word “infidel”, even less of the context in which it was used.
      Do you think that “People of the book” which includes Muslims are Infidels?
      How about Moses? or Abraham? or Jesus?
      It is obvious that you have never read the Quean.

      • Shahna

        “All warfare is based on deception” [SunTzu]

        • PJ London

          I was referring to “kee betachbulot ta’ase lecha milchama”
          Translation: “With clandestine terrorism we will conduct war”

          • Shahna

            I know. Mossad.
            Better known by “By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Make War”
            But deception in war isn’t something unique or new or special.

            I’m not sure why so many people seem to find that motto so remarkable.
            They’re kinda… the CIA of Israel – would you expect their motto be “We never lie?”

          • PJ London

            Because every other agency worldwide, claim to be “defending” against war, not conducting war.
            All the others are “Ministry of Peace”

          • Phil

            “Because every other agency worldwide, claim to be “defending” against war, not conducting war.”

            So they are better because they lie?

      • BC Christian

        Well, I have read the Quran – numerous times. Many, many millions of modern-day Muslims believe that violence in the name of their God and their alleged prophet Mohammed is permitted. I am not aware of any modern-day Christians who argue that it is OK to kill in the Name of Jesus. Show me a Protestant or Catholic leader who says that Christ is calling them to kill people. Such leaders don’t exist. However, every single day of the week, atrocities are committed in the name of Allah and/or his alleged prophet. Islam is not a religion of peace. In most countries where Islam is dominant, freedom of religion and freedom of expression do no exist. That’s the future for Europe if people don’t act now. No on in Europe should accept the bullying of Islam. Islam should not be allowed to dictate how people speak of their faith. As soon as people accept this, then freedom is lost.

        • ClubToTheHead

          “I am not aware of any modern-day Christians who argue that it is OK to
          kill in the Name of Jesus. Show me a Protestant or Catholic leader who
          says that Christ is calling them to kill people.”

          “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”– Matthew 10:34 of the Bible reports the words of Jesus the Christ.

          • Phil

            So Jesus brought a sword, which makes him… …a blacksmith?

            It is not in the slightest similar to saying:

            “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the disbelievers wherever you find them. (9:5)”

    • alanh

      You should see what’s in the Talmud..

    • slawea

      Jesus agreed. He was always telling the Pharisees of the incredible sins. He HATED religion, but instead taught of “the Kingdom of God and all of His promised blessing yo those trusting in RELATIONSHIP with THEM. When Pilate asked why His disciples didn’t fight if He was the King of the Jews, He responded that we will not fight for the kingdoms of THIS world, which are currently under THEIR father “the prince of this world”, but that no matter what, His church (body) would never be destroyed. Not His “religion”l His BODY, His FAMILY and He told Christians to flee the coming persecutions. God is still on His Throne and in full control of the future of His Children, not the apostates mostly in the western world. To Alanh: Those fights were ordered against part-human Nephilim societies to purify the human race. Look what’s happening in the world of “Transhumanim” today

    • Aasiyah Sattar

      I’m not sure which comic you read that had you believing is the Qur’aan, because none of what you have stated about the Qur’aan has any truth in it.
      Holy scriptures especially the Qur’aan inform people of past incidents, wars which have been fought, origin of the religion, people who has been given God book which had been altered and edited to suit them and predictions of what the future holds. No where in the Qur’aan does God command or demand muslims to kill, so please if you didn’t understand what you read don’t misinterpret it. Religion serves as a guidance towards mankind and the humility for one another, which clearly you lack.
      You may believe in a God, but speaking the truth or rather differentiating truth from lies is one characteristic that every religion teaches, another characteristic in which you lack.

  • ClubToTheHead

    “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”

    Islam is proven the enemy of peace by these words from sacred text.

    The prophet who spoke these words is of a religion, one would think, that should be wiped from the face of the earth.

    But how did Matthew in 10:34 come to know of Islam? and what prophet did he speak of?

    Mass Man is Mass Murder.

    • ClubToTheHead

      Give Up?

      Matthew 10:34 of the Bible reports the words of Jesus the Christ.

    • Aasiyah Sattar

      Please do not put words in my prophets mouth which has never been heard, or written till now when you took it upon yourself to create it. Unless you misquoted the wrong prophet.
      You quote the bible but break the first commandment brought to christians by Jesus (your God), very contradicting

      • ClubToTheHead

        Matthew 10:34 of the Bible reports the words of Jesus the Christ.

        I misquoted the wrong prophet intentionally to trick Christians into reading the murderous words spoken by Jesus that are unknown to and denied by most Christians.

        Christians like to call Islam an evil religion, but Christianity has proven to be a very violent religion both in words and in practice.

        I myself am hated by all organized religions because I reject all of them as make believe fictions.

  • Anonyplatypus

    Let’s not forget, humanitarians are responsible for all the War OF Terror that is being carried out in the name of human rights.

    And let’s not forget that 99% of high-profile “Muslim” terrorism is in fact Rothschild-funded terror to complete their global conquest. No one ever mentions the Rothschild cartel because they own the media.

  • What if the whole idea of “radical muslims” is a psy-op?

  • PJ London

    So which of the Kouachi brothers had “Blue eyes”

    JOURNALIST WITH “Charlie Hebdo” CLAIMS ONE OF THE TERRORIST ATTACKERS FROM YEMEN HAD BLUE EYES

  • Brabantian

    10 indicators of why Charlie Hebdo attack was a Mossad – French security operation and not ‘Muslims’, with ‘patsy’ Franco-Algerian brothers Said and Cherif Kouachi likely murdered beforehand in Charlie Hebdo false flag hoax

    (1) Military and intel veterans, including from France, broadly agree operation seems professional state-supported and not likely Franco-Algerian jihadi brothers
    (2) Video claiming to show killing of French policeman thoroughly debunked as fake by military / intel analysts such as at Veterans Today etc
    (3) One masked Charlie Hebdo attacker identified by witness as having blue eyes, unlike Algerian brothers
    (4) Masked Charlie Hebdo killers immediately drove getaway car to Jewish kosher restaurant ‘Patistory’ popular with Israelis / Mossad in Paris
    (5) At Jewish deli Charlie Hebdo killers quickly change to 2nd getaway car and laughably ‘by accident’ leave ID of Kouachi in 1st car
    (6) As predicted Kouachi brothers are allegedly quickly ‘killed’, though likely murdered much earlier before massacre was undertaken
    (7) French police Commissioner Helric Fredou, beginning fascinating work to report on Hebdo massacre, is suddenly found with bullet in head, with laughable claim he ‘committed suicide’
    (8) President of France François Hollande appears on television, looking shaken and fearful, briefly blurts out that Hebdo massacre was carried out by « Illuminés » – the Illuminati – thus hinting it was ‘Deep State’ French security along with Israel, following on Hollande’s decisions favouring Palestine
    (9) French Prime Minister Manuel Valls, married to Jewish violinist Anne Gravoin, is pro-Israel fanatic, supporting and protecting Mossad operations in France, Valls claiming any anti-Zionist (such as many Jews) must be a Jew-hating anti-Semite
    (10) Anglo-Israeli web trolls intensively hit popular websites, arguing fanatically it is all fault of ‘Muslims’, trying to suppress investigation and discussion

  • Jan 10, 2015 Charlie Hebdo Shootings – Censored Video

    This is footage of the Charlie Hebdo shootings which has been restricted or taken down from a number of websites. As you will see it contains no blood, gore or graphic violence. It does however punch a major hole in the official story.

    http://youtu.be/yJEvlKKm6og

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B63FLT4CYAA5CMe.png

  • BC Christian

    This is a nearly insane set of statements. It makes me despair of our culture. Here are the real facts:

    -In almost all the 57 countries of the Organization of Islamic cooperation, freedom of religion and freedom of the press are severely curtailed or nearly non-existent.
    -Twenty-three of these countries make “apostasy” a crime, usually with the death penalty attached.
    -Most of the 34 countries do not tolerate religious freedom.
    -One-third of all British Muslims believe in killing for Islam.
    -78% of all British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Mohammed cartoons.

    The statements in this article are in conflict with any real assessment of the differences between Christianity and Islam. They are totally different religions with totally different outcomes. That’s because one was founded by Jesus who gave himself up to death on a cross to save sinners while the other was founded by a man of violence and perversity.

    • Aasiyah Sattar

      (I think of the depiction in the media of the “Rambouillet Accords” concerning Yugoslavia in 1999 as “the will of the international community,” when one Contact Group member, Russia, rejected the U.S.-dictated plan for Kosovo outright, and several European states only signed on after their arms were twisted nearly out of their sockets. I think of the calculated, extreme exaggeration of the number of Kosovar victims of Serbian forces as the bombing of Yugoslavia began. The lies surrounding that bombing were obvious to anyone studying the situation, but even some rather progressive academics were all for “Operation Allied Force.”) American academe is—unfortunately— whatever its right-wing critics may contend, not particularly left or anti-imperialist. In any case, such ignorance is not just a national embarrassment; it’s really dangerous. Raw material for a made-in-USA version of fascism.

      To understand the contemporary world, you need to know something about Islam-beyond the inane contribution of the Attorney General cited above. So I have prepared this little primer on Islam for Americans (suitable for ages 13 and above, so appropriate for high school use), dealing not with its theology so much as its general character as an important force in the world, presently encountering unprecedented, unprincipled attack from various quarters.

      1. Islam has been around for approximately 1400 years. Established on the west coast of Arabia 900 years before European settlement in America, and spreading rapidly throughout Southwest Asia and North Africa soon thereafter, it was not designed as an anti-U.S. movement!

      The basic teachings or requirements of Islam are not difficult to grasp. They constitute the “Five Pillars of Islam”: (1) profession that there is no God but God (“Allah,” in Arabic), and his Prophet (the last of the prophets, the “seal of the prophets”) is Muhammad; (2) daily prayer; (3) fasting during the month of Ramadan; (4) charity; and (5) the pilgrimage to Mecca. Whatever you may think of this package, it’s not terribly threatening to the non-Muslim.

      2. Islam’s teachings are contained in a fairly compact book, the Qur’an, which Muslims believe was dictated to the Prophet Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel. They believe of it precisely what Jews and Christians believe of their scriptures: that is, it’s the Word of God. This book, like the Bible, demands belief in monotheism; refers to Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jesus, etc. (far more space is given to Mary, mother of Jesus, in the Qur’an than in the New Testament); has a substantial legalistic component reminiscent of the Old Testament Book of Leviticus, and poetic content as beautifully uplifting as the Book of Psalms. For religious and secular scholars alike, it is absolutely clear that Islam stems from the Judeo-Christian tradition. Indeed, we should think in terms of the “Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition.”

      (Some fundamentalist Christians, of course, see Islam as the work of Satan, and medieval Christians in Europe saw it as a heresy rather than as “paganism. The point is—for better or worse—Muslims have a whole lot more in common with the dominant religious trends in the U.S. than do, say, Buddhists or Hindus.)

      3.Muslims are about 20% of the world’s population; Christians, about 30%. (The U.S. Muslim population is estimated between 5 and 8 million; U.S. Jews between 5 and 6 million). The global Jewish population is statistically quite small, so one can say the Judeo-Christian-Islamic population is roughly half the world’s total. The consequences of a protracted religious war, pitting Christians and Jews against Muslims, are highly unpleasant to consider.

      4. The Qur’an depicts Jews and Christians as “People of the Book,” meaning that they have their own scriptures bestowed upon them by God (Allah is simply the Arabic world for God, related to the Hebrew Elohim; see it as analogous to the German word Gott, the French Dieu, or the Spanish Dios. It’s not the personal name of a deity within a pantheon, like Thor, Aphrodite or Siva.)

      Muslim scripture counsels respect for these communities, and indeed, in the history of Islam, within Islamic societies Jews and Christians have fared FAR better than non-Christians in Christendom. Muslims ruled all or part of Spain from around 800 to the late 15th century, when Columbus’ great patrons, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella “drove the Moors (Muslims) out of Spain,” forced everybody to embrace Catholic Christianity (or be killed), and promoted the exquisite Christian tortures of the Inquisition. Under Muslim rule, Christian and Jewish communities generally flourished from Spain to Iraq. On the other hand, until recent times, Christian intolerance prevailed throughout Europe.

      5. The Qu’ran does NOT call upon Muslims to KILL all non-Muslims. It calls for the destruction of “infidels,” meaning principally Arabs who, during the time of Muhammad (saw), practiced idolatry and polytheism. Again: this is a seventh-century book, produced in a specific historical context! It, and the Muslim religion, should be studied and understood objectively, dispassionately. Islam emerged very quickly, and within decades united under its banner-the banner of monotheism—the various tribes of Arabia. Its violent rejection of idolatry, however offensive to the modern, secular, humanist mind, is hardly unique. It can be compared to the ferocious suppression in Christian Europe of paganism (often associated with witchcraft).

      And for perspective, while the Qu’ran does call for the extermination of “infidels,” the Old Testament is replete with its own exhortations to genocide. According to the Biblical narrative (of dubious historicity, but believed by hundreds of millions), the Hebrews under Joshua’s leadership, invading Canaan from Egypt, killed twelve thousand “men and women together” in the town of Ai-because God wanted them to (Joshua 8:25). The Hebrews put all the people of Hazor to the sword (they “wiped them all out; they did not leave one living soul.” Judges 11:14). The poetics of hatred are as conspicuous in the Bible as in the Qu’ran. A personal favorite of mine, from Psalm 137, refers to the Babylonians: “A blessing on him who takes and dashes your babies against the rock!” Such references are characteristic of Judeo-Christian-Islamic literature, and are best examined in historical perspective.

      6. Islamic “fundamentalism” is not a species apart from other fundamentalisms, including the Christian, Jewish, and Hindu varieties. They are all anti-modern, anti-science, anti-intellectual, rarely harmless and potentially (if not necessarily) fascistic. They demand belief in received dogma, inscribed in texts, rather than open-ended scientific inquiry. They either legitimate the existing order, or call for a return to a past social order in which class and gender relations were properly sorted out in line with the Divine Will.

      Some (including non-religious people in or from Muslim countries) criticize Islam (appropriately, in my view) for what they consider backward and reactionary features. This is not the place to deal with such criticisms, nor am I the right person to do it. I will merely observe what many others have observed: Christendom underwent the Enlightenment-an evolution towards secularism, rationalism, and scientific thought in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries-which the Islamic world, in general, has not yet experienced. To become “modern” (more specifically, to become capitalist), the West had to become more ideologically tolerant (i.e., less religious), and allow a freer market in ideas than had been possible when the Church monopolized learning. If mullahs monopolize education in much of the Muslim world, they serve a function identical with that of Europe’s medieval Catholic clergy.

      But our own Enlightenment is not irreversible. Top U.S. officials reject the theory of evolution in favor of the ludicrous “theory” of “creationism,”and seek to criminalize abortion on the grounds that a fetus is a human being created by God. Recent changes in U.S. law (allowing the use of vouchers to support religious schools at taxpayer’s expense), and the failure of the courts to prosecute behavior which plainly violates the constitutional separation of church and state, demonstrate that medieval thinking and fundamentalism retain a strong hold in sections of U.S. society, and are well represented in the Bush administration. The American people are, I submit, far more threatened by Christian fundamentalism than its Islamic counterpart. And for a Pentecostalist Christian like John Ashcroft, who believes every word of the Bible literally, to inveigh against Islam (as he has) is (to use the English proverb) the “pot calling the kettle black.”

      7. Islamic fundamentalism (or what some, including CNN Moneyline’s Lou Dobbs calls “Islamism,” meaning a specifically political Islam) has NOT, historically, posed a great threat to Western interests (by which I mean corporate, oil, and geopolitical interests) but rather been exploited to SERVE those interests. Remember Lawrence of Arabia? What was his objective other than to forge a British alliance with the Hashemites, who would certainly qualify as “Islamists” by Lou Dobb’s standards, during World War I? Later, the British boosted the Saudi royal family (patrons of the Wahhabi school of Islam, usually described as among the most conservative, embraced by Osama bin Laden as well as the Saudis in general) into power. The U.S. inherited Saudi Arabia as a client state after World War II, and we all know how well U.S. oil companies have done there ever since. (Aramco alone, prior to its nationalization in the mid-1980s, yielded some $ 3 trillion from the Arabian reserves.)

      The U.S. helped create, recruit, and finance the fundamentalist Mujahadeen, including some 30,000 young volunteers who came from throughout the Muslim world to fight “godless Communism” in Afghanistan in the 1980s. The U.S. encouraged them to view their war as a jihad (in the sense of a “Holy War,” a meaning the term usually does NOT carry), and put many in contact with young Osama bin Laden, then an ally. The Reagan administration was in love with fundamentalist Islam, so long as it served its purposes.

      The California-based company Unocal was cordially negotiating right up to Sept. 11 with Afghanistan’s Taliban for an oil pipeline through Afghan territory, State Department official and oilman Zalmay Khalilzad was arguing up through 1998 that the Taliban were friendly, potential business partners who did “not practice the anti-U.S. style of fundamentalism practiced in Iran.”

      8. Muslims of the world have many thoroughly LEGITIMATE reasons to resent U.S. policy. Nearly absolute support for the settler state of Israel in its relationship with the indigenous Palestinian people. Imposition of brutal sanctions on Iraq, contrary to logic and morality. Maintenance of bases throughout the Persian Gulf, in defiance of local sensibilities and interests. Support for brutal regimes, including that of the Shah of Iran and that of Indonesia’s Suharto (who unquestionably has more blood on his hands than even that arch-villain and former U.S. buddy Saddam Hussein).

      9. Muslims typically DO NOT hate the U.S. as an abstract concept, reject U.S. culture in toto, or seek the destruction of American civilization. Many are, indeed, uncomfortable with some aspects of American behavior, as are most people in the world, from Central America to Japan. But a Zogby International poll, released June 11 of this year, shows that in nine Muslim countries, including Bangladesh and Malaysia, the most admired foreign country is the U.S.

      10. Muslims and Jews in Palestine/Israel have NOT always hated one another, and the current Middle East conflict does NOT go back many centuries. Rather, it began with the influx of foreign Jews into the region after World War I, which became a flood as a result of the Holocaust, and with international support resulted in the formation of Israel as a specifically Jewish state in 1948. Jewish settlement and terrorism (well-documented by the Jewish Israeli historian Ilan Pappe) resulted in the displacement of 750,000 Palestinian Arabs (including both Christians and Muslims). The Arab-Israeli conflict is not, fundamentally, about Islam, or a clash between Islam and other faiths, but about this-worldly land grabbing, settlement, dispossession and oppression that has enraged the Muslim world, as it should enrage any thinking, moral human being. Unfortunately, fundamentalist Christians in this country tend to depict this history of injustice as the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy, and they will brook no dissent when it comes to the Zionist cause that they have embraced as their own. (“God gave them the land, so don’t bother me with historical details. End of discussion.”) Hard to imagine a delusion more injurious to world peace and to the cause of justice.

      Finally: In understanding Islam, Americans should give some thought to one of the pivotal episodes in world history, the Crusades, or Wars of the Cross, that ripped up the Holy Land between 1096 and 1291. During these two centuries, European Christians seeking to “win back for Christendom” territory that had fallen to the Muslim Turks-territory that had been ruled by Muslims since the early seventh century anyway, on terms generally agreeable to Jews and Christians as well as Muslims-committed unspeakable atrocities. In July 1099 Jerusalem was conquered, the Roman Catholic soldiers massacring all the Muslim and Jewish inhabitants, including women and children. Nor was the Crusaders’ zeal exhausted upon non-Christians; frustrated at lack of success in Palestine in 1204, they instead sacked Constantinople (modern Istanbul), then the center of Eastern Orthodoxy. In comparison, the behavior of the Muslim armies was chivalrous, the twelfth-century Kurdish leader Saladin in particular winning high praise from Christians and Muslims alike for his humanity.

      The Islamic world remembers the Crusades; George Bush, like many Americans, is clueless about them. Hence his amazingly dim-witted reference to the “War on Terrorism” as a “Crusade” last September 16-a statement that produced immediate, widespread outrage in the Muslim world. No offense intended, no doubt. But such ignorance, in action, in a world where religious prejudice generates idiotic action from Belfast, to the Balkans, to Gujarat, to the Moluccas, is perilous ignorance indeed.

      Gary Leupp is an an associate professor, Department of History, Tufts University and coordinator, Asian Studies Program

      • BC Christian

        Your very long-winded reply does not remove the fact that extreme violence is committed every day in many nations by many people in the name of Islam. It does see the the majority of the Muslims of the world are OK with this violence and consider it warranted. I do not believe for one second that Islam is a religion of peace. How can it be when its founder was a man of violence and perversion? If you embrace the Koran, then I consider you co-responsible for the atrocities committed every day in the name of your God. I am sick and tired of hearing the lies that the violence and hatred is somehow only incidental to Islam when the evidence shows clearly that it belongs to the very nature of Islam to encourage violence. That’s why Islamic countries throughout the world today are places of intolerance. Islamists come to North America and western Europe in great numbers. They avail themselves of the freedom of these nations to establish an Islamic presence. Can Christians move to Islamic countries to evangelize and establish churches? No, they cannot since Islamists don’t actually believe in the freedom of religion. The evidence is so abundantly clear on this point that you need to be nearly insane to deny it.

        • Aasiyah Sattar

          My reply is only long for those whom finds comfort in their hatred, unwilling or rather unlimited to reason.
          I’m tired of the same monotoneous chorus of Islam being a violent religion, and I’m sure so is every other muslim, there’s nothing said differently on thousands of other Islamophobic websites, I hope you don’t see yourself as extra special after making your comment. You must be the millionth person to have copied and pasted that.
          Realizing that muslims had practiced this unchanged religion for 1400 years, yet terrorism was unheard of then, neither was killing in the name of God which is continuously footnoted at every comment made by the hatred of those ignorant to make it and those ignorant enough to believe. The most hilarious of it all is stating things about Islam and muslims which doesn’t exist, yet when proof of written verses or saying are asked for, arrogance emerges, and the hatred intensifies. Yet when a muslim evidently responds with the written scriptures of the Qur’aan as proof, its dismissed in anger, better yet annoyance. Truth of the matter is, I may quote and spend a lifetime providing you with every proven fact this world has to produce, but you are not willing to accept it. My Qur’aan speaks of you.

          2|6|Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.

          2|7|Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allah’s Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering.

          That alone is enough evidence to me that my creator truly exists, in which you too had a hand in, so thank you . The second chapter of the Qur’aan, dedicated to you.

          2|18|They are deaf, dumb, and blind, so they return not (to the Right Path).

          2|19|Or like a rainstorm from the sky, wherein is darkness, thunder, and lightning. They thrust their fingers in their ears to keep out the stunning thunderclap for fear of death. But Allah ever encompasses the disbelievers (i.e. Allah will gather them all together).

          2|20|The lightning almost snatches away their sight, whenever it flashes for them, they walk therein, and when darkness covers them, they stand still. And if Allah willed, He could have taken away their hearing and their sight. Certainly, Allah has power over all things.

          2|21|O mankind! Worship your Lord (Allah), Who created you and those who were before you so that you may become Al-Muttaqun (the pious – see V. 2:2).

          2|22|Who has made the earth a resting place for you, and the sky as a canopy, and sent down water (rain) from the sky and brought forth therewith fruits as a provision for you. Then do not set up rivals unto Allah (in worship) while you know (that He Alone has the right to be worshipped).

          2|23|And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Quran) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him), then produce a Surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful.

          2|24|But if you do it not, and you can never do it.

          I hope this wasn’t too long to read. I now discovered that your enthusiasm in responding with more lies and hatred is much too overwhelimg for you to waste time in educating yourself. Its not my comment which is long but your eagerness in having to state utter nonsense which doesn’t exist but is very intriguing to everyone else who shares your ignorance.

          • BC Christian

            Your mind is blinded by Satan. You cannot see the plain facts. Wherever Islam is found in the world today, there is intolerance of other faiths. Furthermore, wherever Islam spreads, there is violence. Every single day on this earth, people die at the hands of fanatical Islamists. Nonetheless, in your great folly, you continue to assert that their actions have nothing to do with Islam. They kill in the name of their god and his alleged prophet but you arrogantly say that their religious beliefs have nothing to do with it. People like you make me realize that the doors of western countries should be slammed shut in the face of all Islamists who come here to abuse our freedoms and to justify their insane religion that comes from the mind of a maniac who was a known pervert and man of violence. You choose to follow the teachings of such a man and you will reap the bitter fruit of it in your culture.

          • Aasiyah Sattar

            Like I’ve stated before, your claims are worthless, its just empty words and with childish tantrums, which maybe read today, but will be forgotten tomorrow. Lowering yourself in saying my mind is blinded by satan, really? How old are you? Resulting in childish remarks?

            I no longer wish to use my intelligence in conversing with someone which is blessed with idiocy ,who clearly has his brain still shrink wrapped, labeled “BRAND NEW NEVER USED”

            My religion however instructs muslims to give charity to the most needy, so here’s some knowledge.

            “That’s why Islamic countries throughout the world today are places of intolerance. Islamists come to North America and western Europe in great numbers.

            At Mount Vernon, Washington “signaled openness to Muslim laborers in 1784.”. WOW !! Islam in Washington before the 9/11 attacks ??? Who would have thought..

            The Emirate of Sicily, located in the south of Italy, was a part of the larger Islamic Empire from the ninth to the eleventh centuries, under a variety of rulers.

            The Shah Jahan Mosque, built in 1889 by Dr Gottleib Wilhelm Leitner, was the first mosque to be built in the UK and Northern Europe. The mosque is situated on Oriental Road in Woking, about three quarters of a mile from the railway station and town centre, which is amongst the 362 mosques built in the UK

            When Columbus made his journey to the United States, it is said he took with him a book written by Portuguese Muslims who had navigated their way to the New World in the 12th century.
            Others claim there were Muslims, most notably a man named Istafan, who accompanied the Spanish as a guide to the New World in the early 16th century in their conquest of what would become Arizona and New Mexico.
            What is clear is the make up of the first real wave of Muslims in the United States: African slaves of whom 10 to 15 percent were said to be Muslims. Maintaining their religion was difficult and many were forcibly converted to Christianity. Any effort to practice Islam, and keep the traditional clothing and names alive had to be done in secret. There was an enclave of African-Americans on the Georgia coast that managed to maintain their faith until the early part of the 20th century.
            Between 1878 and 1924, Muslim immigrants from the Middle East, particularly from Syria and Lebanon, arrived in large numbers, with many settling in Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and even the Dakotas.
            The estimated number of Muslims in this country varies, depending on the source. The American Muslim Council claims 5 million, while the non-partisan Center for Immigration Studies believes the figure is closer to between 3 to 4 million followers of Islam. The American Religious Identification Study by the City University of New York, completed in 2001 put the number of Muslims at 1, 104,000. 
            Over the years, the nation gained public prominence due to famous members like Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali. Today, there are more than 1500 Islamic centers and mosques around the country.
            Figures vary, but experts estimate that between four and seven million Americans are Muslim.
            Islam is expected to soon be the second largest religion in America.

            Muslims didn’t infest your country the time when 9 / 11 occurred, which blatantly ignited your hatred and killed your I.Q, they occupied your country long before your ancestors were even concieved. So your statement that was so confidently written that Western countries belongs to you and your westeners is just another worthless tantrum that holds no validity, which again proves your lack of knowledge. “An empty vessels which makes way too much noise”

          • BC Christian

            As I said earlier and as becomes more evident with each of your ignorant diatribes, you haven’t responded to the main points. In the hope of at last piercing the darkness of your empty mind, let me say it again: throughout the world today, in many different countries, horrific atrocities are committed by Islamists. They are done in the name of allah and his alleged prophet and yet you continue to deny any link between violence and your faith. Furthermore, wherever Islam has taken hold, intolerance has followed. In many Islamic countries, turning away from allah can result in death. You are in the grip of delusions and I hope that one day a little bit of light shines into the pit of your mind.

          • Aasiyah Sattar

            What u mean to say is, the only statement which is repeatedly made by you like a broken recorder, is that only muslims commits crimes especially in a Westonised country which in your mind belongs to you bla bla bla. And I repeatedly tell you to prove your statements which you couldn’t , hence the repetition of hatred continues, which has now bore me to death. Childish remarks and pathetic conclusions in labeling me and my religion, is not worthy of my time.
            I do not speak “stupid” unfortunately, so you may direct your conversation somewhere else.
            You clearly live in an animated world created by our mental disability, which I refuse to respond to.
            I was taught to never argue with a fool, as people wouldn’t know the difference. In my country, education is free, I’m sorry its not in your’s. So good luck and goodbye, I hope you don’t end up drowning in your own hatred which seems now to be clothed in idiocy, and gift wrapped in ignorance. Someday people will get tired of you advertising islamic hatred, which will hopefully send you into the direction of learning the truths about Islam and muslims. If not..goodluck anyway

          • Aasiyah Sattar

            For all your worthless statements, here is something worth reading and knowing, which will be read and taught in history classes for centuries to come.

             
            Michael H. Hart, The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc. 1978, p. 33:
            “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.”
            Sarojini Naidu, the famous Indian poetess says – S. Naidu, Ideals of Islam, Speeches and Writings, Madaras, 1918
            “It was the first religion that preached and practiced democracy; for, in the mosque, when the call for prayer is sounded and worshippers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and king kneel side by side and proclaim: ‘God Alone is Great’… “
             
            Thomas Caryle – Heros and Heros Worship
            “how one man single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades?”
            “…The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammed) are disgraceful to ourselves only…How one man single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades….A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world; the world’s Maker had ordered so.”
             
            Stanley Lane-Poole – Table Talk of the Prophet
            “He was the most faithful protector of those he protected, the sweetest and most agreeable in conversation. Those who saw him were suddenly filled with reverence; those who came near him loved him; they who described him would say, “I have never seen his like either before or after.” He was of great taciturnity, but when he spoke it was with emphasis and deliberation, and no one could forget what he said…”
             
            George Bernard Shaw – The Genuine Islam Vol.No.8, 1936.
            “I believe if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring much needed peace and happiness.
            I have studied him – the man and in my opinion is far from being an anti–Christ. He must be called the Savior of Humanity.
            I have prophesied about the faith of Mohammad that it would be acceptable the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.”

            Nepolean Bonaparte – Quoted in Christian Cherfils BONAPARTE ET ISLAM (PARIS  1914)
            “I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Qur’an which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness.”
             
            M.K.Gandhi, YOUNG INDIA, 1924
            “…I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.” YOUNG INDIA, 1924
             
            Lamartine – Histoire de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol II, pp. 276-77:
            “If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and souls… the forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold, the unit of God and the immateriality of God; the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words.
            “Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?”
             
            Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay  – History of the Saracen Empire, London, 1870, p. 54:
            “It is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at Mecca and Medina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the Indian, the African and the Turkish proselytes of the Koran…The Mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith and devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man. ‘I believe in One God and Mahomet the Apostle of God’, is the simple and invariable profession of Islam. The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honors of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion.”
             
            Rev. Bosworth Smith, Mohammed and Mohammadanism, London 1874, p. 92:
            “He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope’s pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports.”
             
            Annie Besant, The Life and Teachings of Muhammad, Madras 1932, p. 4:
            “It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher.”
             
            Montgomery Watt, Mohammad at Mecca, Oxford 1953, p. 52:
            “His readiness to undergo persecutions for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement – all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems than it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad.”
             
            James A. Michener, ‘Islam: The Misunderstood Religion’ in Reader’s Digest (American Edition), May 1955, pp. 68-70:
            “Muhammad, the inspired man who founded Islam, was born about A.D. 570 into an Arabian tribe that worshipped idols. Orphaned at birth, he was always particularly solicitous of the poor and needy, the widow and the orphan, the slave and the downtrodden. At twenty he was already a successful businessman, and soon became director of camel caravans for a wealthy widow. When he reached twenty-five, his employer, recognizing his merit, proposed marriage. Even though she was fifteen years older, he married her, and as long as she lived, remained a devoted husband.
            “Like almost every major prophet before him, Muhammad fought shy of serving as the transmitter of God’s word, sensing his own inadequacy. But the angel commanded ‘Read’. So far as we know, Muhammad was unable to read or write, but he began to dictate those inspired words which would soon revolutionize a large segment of the earth: “There is one God.”
            “In all things Muhammad was profoundly practical. When his beloved son Ibrahim died, an eclipse occurred, and rumors of God’s personal condolence quickly arose. Whereupon Muhammad is said to have announced, ‘An eclipse is a phenomenon of nature. It is foolish to attribute such things to the death or birth of a human-being.’
            “At Muhammad’s own death an attempt was made to deify him, but the man who was to become his administrative successor killed the hysteria with one of the noblest speeches in religious history: ‘If there are any among you who worshipped Muhammad, he is dead. But if it is God you worshipped, He lives forever.'”
             
            Michael H. Hart, The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc. 1978, p. 33:
            “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.”
            Sarojini Naidu, the famous Indian poetess says – S. Naidu, Ideals of Islam, Speeches and Writings, Madaras, 1918
            “It was the first religion that preached and practiced democracy; for, in the mosque, when the call for prayer is sounded and worshippers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and king kneel side by side and proclaim: ‘God Alone is Great’… “
             
            Thomas Caryle – Heros and Heros Worship
            “how one man single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades?”
            “…The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammed) are disgraceful to ourselves only…How one man single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades….A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world; the world’s Maker had ordered so.”
             
            Stanley Lane-Poole – Table Talk of the Prophet
            “He was the most faithful protector of those he protected, the sweetest and most agreeable in conversation. Those who saw him were suddenly filled with reverence; those who came near him loved him; they who described him would say, “I have never seen his like either before or after.” He was of great taciturnity, but when he spoke it was with emphasis and deliberation, and no one could forget what he said…”
             
            George Bernard Shaw – The Genuine Islam Vol.No.8, 1936.
            “I believe if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring much needed peace and happiness.
            I have studied him – the man and in my opinion is far from being an anti–Christ. He must be called the Savior of Humanity.
            I have prophesied about the faith of Mohammad that it would be acceptable the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.”

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  • herself311

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