Former Marine on Chris Kyle, American Sniper, and Social Implications

Ross Caputi, a former marine who participated in the US’s second siege of Fallujah, writes that the reason the American Sniper book and film have been so successful is that they “tell us exactly what we want to hear”: that US America is “benevolent” and “righteous”.  That, he says, is why the book and film are so popular; their popularity speaks volumes about US society, and signals more danger ahead for the rest of the world.

The killings for which Chris Kyle is idolized, Caputi notes, were perpetrated during his participation in the second US siege of Fallujah, which Caputi, from firsthand knowledge, calls an “atrocity”.

Specifically of the siege, Caputi notes:

  • All military aged males were forced to stay within the city limits of Fallujah” [while women and children were warned to flee through the desert on foot]
  • “…an estimated 50,000 civilians were trapped in [Fallujah] during this month long siege without water” [since the US had cut off water and electricity to the city]
  • “…almost no effort was taken to make a distinction between civilian men and combatants. In fact, in many instances civilians and combatants were deliberately conflated.”
  • “The US did not treat military action [against Fallujah] as a last resort. The peace negotiations with the leadership in Fallujah were canceled by the US.”

In modest conformity with international law originally flowing from the Nuremberg tribunal, he says that neither he or Kyle should receive any “praise or recognition” for their actions against Iraq.

Further, he notes that Clint Eastwood, director of the American Sniper movie, made many changes to Kyle’s accounts of what happened.  For one, Kyle, in his autobiography, recounts shooting a woman who was taking the legal action of throwing a grenade at invading forces.  Eastwood changes this so that the woman gives the grenade to her child to throw at the invaders.  “Did Clint Eastwood think that this is a more representative portrayal of the Iraqi resistance?” Caputi asks. “It’s not.”  (Caputi gives Eastwood the benefit of our lack of knowledge of his thought process; he could have asked if Eastwood did this to try to dehumanize Iraqi mothers or Iraqis in general, or whip up US American xenophobic hatred of foreigners, a not-so-difficult feat which Eastwood accomplished with flying colors.  See The Guardian’s “American Sniper: Anti-Muslim Threats Skyrocket in Wake of Film’s Release“; many who see the film “emerge from theatres desperate to communicate a kind of murderous desire.”)

The US invasion of Iraq, Caputi concludes, was “the imposition of a political and economic project against the will of the majority of Iraqis. … We had no right to invade a sovereign nation, occupy it against the will of the majority of its citizens, and patrol their streets.”

Caputi “holds an MA in Linguistics and … is working on an MA in English Studies at Fitchburg State University.”

Also see Professor of International Affairs Sophia A. McClennan’s piece, where she says the American Sniper movie is “a terrifying glimpse” of a “mind-set that couples delusion with violence”.

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  • Sam

    So what is the point of this article? Printing garbage like this this is the reason we haven’t won a war since WWII. The citizens were lucky. The US should have rolled across that place with 250,000 troops and left nothing behind but cinders. It’s us or them, man….wake up. Junk journalism like this is why the US is now perceived as weak around the world. I guess you idiots won’t be happy until these Muslims nuke LA, Atlanta and DC !

    • ClubToTheHead

      Since most Americans approve of torture and consider themselves to be
      Patriotic, and that is what Obama calls them, this joke should be well received:

      Prisoner is getting a rectal feeding.

      Patriot asks Prisoner if he would like some

      coffee.

      Prisoner nods yes.

      Funnel up the ass, the coffee is poured in

      and the Prisoner screams.

      Patriot asks if the coffee is too hot.

      Prisoner screams, NO! TOO SWEET! TOO SWEET!

      • Will Andermann

        Sam has largely succeeded in dumbing down this conversation. Trolls are all too often successful corrupters of public discussion. Just ignore them. (Hopefully this comes through as ignoring him and valuing what the rest of you say.)

        • jadan

          This Sam character represents the official point of view. Whether he’s a troll or not, I like his contribution because it is a cleverly constructed lie initiated by that ass hole, Bush, who said they hate us for our freedom thus laying the foundation for the official story. We therefore hate them because they hate us. Just look what they did to us! This Sam is military, probably, and I think he’s sincere in his delusions, which means his moral compass has been sabotaged through trauma-based indoctrination. Sam will be awarded officer’s rank when the National Security State declares martial law and goes after the libtards and commies. He’ll gladly explode your head into a red mist at a thousand yards.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            It’s a lotta fun puttin stuff up like the Geneva Conventions and the Rules of land warfare when the troll suggests there are no rules.The NAZIs thought that too!

          • Sam

            You’d find that ALL rules go out the window when you’re caught in a firefight and your buddy’s entrails get splattered all over you.

    • Forney

      You are an idiot. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. The US should not have invaded a sovereign country that was not a threat to anyone outside its own borders. That is a good way to avoid ‘us or them’ scenarios. Those Muslims you refer to are not able to get their hands on long-range weapons. Preventing them from so doing is a task constantly undertaken by the government. Killing people in Fallujah had no bearing on stopping fanatics getting hands on long-distance weapons.

      • Sam

        Our nuclear destruction won’t be from a long range missile dumb*** ! It will be a suitcase nuke constructed from within or trucked across the Canadian or Mexican border… heck, our government can’t even keep weed and illegal aliens out ! It will happen and our children will be the ones that have to suffer.

        • truth

          I see what you mean. You mean a suitcase nuke from a rogue coup upper echelon operatives, and then dressed up to be done by “the lone suitcase nuke nut” in the mass media, his name will be “Abu bin Laden” for full fear affect of darkskin folks. And then the State will use the fear to invest in more war and scapegoat until the United States is a foot note in history like Rome, destroyed by its own upper Elites by False Flags, Hubris, and Arrogance.

          I see what you mean perfectly.

          • Sam

            You’re a joke dude… I see exactly who you and what you are! You’re one of those IDIOTS who thinks our own government flew those jetliners into the Trade Center Towers so we could start a war, correct? Oh, and made up a story about Iraq having WMDs so we could go into Iraq, right?

          • ClubToTheHead

            The USA minimally did use the the Trade Center Towers collapse in a conspiracy to start a war.

            Remember the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Remember nothing there?

            Remember Bush and Blair, who are still fighting the release of their conspiratorial war conversations?

            Are you a rectal feeder trying to justify the unjustifiable for your own mental health?

          • Sam

            Do your homework before you speak…We DID find chemical weapons in the 2003 Iraqi war! Thousands of US and Iraqi soldiers are still suffering from their use on the battlefield. You never heard it in the media did you? That’s because the media is in bed with the liberals and hated George Bush. As usual… just politics.

          • truth

            OH I see, you mean the depleted uranium shells blasted all over iraq by US and UK forces. You mean THOSE chemical weapons of mass destruction?

          • Sean Jones

            No, the weapons found there were no longer functional by some ten years…yes, the same chem weapons sold to them under Reagan and Bush. Idiot.

          • Sam

            So you don’t believe the 9/11 was enough reason to go to war? In many ways it was worse than the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

          • ClubToTheHead

            Go outside and get some fresh air. It might do you some good.

            And turn off Fox.

          • jadan

            If you believe Arab terrorists knocked down the WTC with two airliners, per the official explanation, you’re just a stupid, thoughtless person. And, unfortunately, you have this in common with most Americans. You are so easy to lie to and so predictable in your reactions. The government depends on stooges like you….

          • Sam

            Morons of your kind don’t believe Americans ever set foot on the moon.

          • jadan

            Morons of your kind believe everything Big Daddy with stars on his shoulders tells them. If GW Bush told you to stand on your head and piss in your own mouth, you’d do it.

          • Sam

            A soldier obeys orders, period….or the machine breaks down. Wow, you may have actually learned something today. Write it down before you forget it you little panty waste.

          • catniss

            Adolf Eichmann was hanged for obeying orders

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Assuming he wasn’t hired by the OSS cum CIA.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            If a soldier obeys an unlawful order, s/he becomes a traitor.
            Treason is defined in the Constitution at Article 3, Section 3, as consisting “only in levying War against (the United States), or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”
            All members of the American military take an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; (and to) bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”
            When the military is committed to foreign actions without a declaration of war by Congress, as required by Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 11 of the Constitution, that is a violation of the Constitution, arguably the action of domestic enemies.
            When a member of the military participates in an unconstitutional foreign military deployment, s/he violates both the Constitution and his/her oath to “support and defend” it, giving “aid and comfort” to it’s “domestic enemies,” committing treason by the definition given by the Constitution.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            US soldiers are supposed to obey legal orders of their superiors and preserve,protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
            I was just obeying orders went out with Nuremburg. Trollin must pay well IMHO!

          • brenpd

            Making the argument that being a soldier in Iraq is morally equivalent to being in the Waffen SS and forcing innocent Jews into a gas chamber as the “Final Solution” is apples and oranges. The only comparison that is valid is that they both wore uniforms. Nothing else.

          • bbb126

            Soldiers are thus disgusting, not to mention disposable. Only a fool would give his life, his time, his freedom blindly. Guess thats why the lowest iqs tend to be jarheads.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            I hope you are aware that they had big boots on, so nobody has actually ever set foot on the moon.

          • brenpd

            If you believe otherwise, you need to get back on your meds.

          • NormanKnight

            Both events were planned and expected. 9/11 was an orchestrated sham.

          • brenpd

            I suppose you have empirical proof of this plan?

          • NormanKnight

            Of course, WTC 7 free falls (controlled demolition) minutes after two separate news organization report that it had already fallen. The whole day was planned well in advance. You can find plenty of videos on You Tube. Are you going to believe your eyes, or what liars have told you?

            As for Pearl Harbor, “[w]riters and journalists such as Robert Stinnett and Robert A. Theobald, the former United States’ Navy Rear Admiral firmly hold that the some of the top government officials in the United States government
            and the British government were fully aware of the attack. In fact, they might have even induced the attack just so the Americans could enter the war through the “back door”.

            Vice Admiral Frank E. Beatty, the aid to the Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox remarked the following:

            “Prior to December 7, it was evident even to me… that we were pushing Japan into a corner. I believed that it was the desire of President Roosevelt, and Prime Minister Churchill that we get into the war, as they felt the Allies could not win without us and all our efforts to cause the Germans to declare war on us failed; the conditions we imposed upon Japan—to get out of China, for example—were so severe that we knew that nation could not accept them. We were forcing her so severely that we could have known that she would react toward the United States. All her preparations in a military way—and we knew their over-all import—pointed that way.”” http://tinyurl.com/p5ew6em See also The Pearl Harbor Deception: http://tinyurl.com/6c4oc

          • brenpd

            Right, The FBI and the CIA had info on the hijackers, but they weren’t talking to each other… conspiracy? I think it’s just inept government. The same government you accuse of a conspiracy? Okay, which is it? inept Govt. or they’re so good at setting it up and making it look like they’re inept?

            As for Pearl Harbor, they may have suspected that it might happen but they had no foreknowledge of the actual attack. So the Imperial Govt. tried to do the same thing they did in the Russo-Japanese war at the battle of Port Arthur. Attack before declaring war to destroy the enemy fleet in their home port.

          • NormanKnight

            Funny how a steel framed building free falls to the ground even though it was never touched by a plane and two news reporters knew in advance that it would fall? Inept government? Are you joking?

            “Stinnett adds that after his book was published [“Day of Deceit”], four retired Navy officers who worked at the Navy listening post in San Francisco in 1941 contacted him. One is Charles Black, husband of former U.S. Ambassador and film star Shirley Temple Black. “These guys knew we had broken the Japanese code,” Stinnett said. They didn’t say definitely they knew Pearl Harbor was being attacked. But they said the threat was very well-known in their department in San Francisco,” he said.”

            So, the U.S. had the Japanese codes, but somehow,–we are still told–Pearl Harbor was a surprise. Inept? What a joke.

            As previously stated, both events were planned and expected.

            P.S. Why wasn’t the entire U.S. Pacific Fleet in port? Because someone made sure that it wasn’t!

          • catniss

            LOL….this Sam is really funny…..Pearl Harbour was another false flag….FDR knew Japan would attack Pearl H…..he set them up….Sam…do you know what an OIL EMBARGO is? Back in 1941 the USA was not totally brainwashed….most US citizens did NOT want another european war……FDR and his jewish bankers had to set up a scenario to convince people that Hitler was an actual threat to the US….Hitler was only a threat to the USSR….oh the freakin irony…let’s attack the guy who wants to destroy bolshevism….lol……SAm’s going to tell me now that Hitler had a plan to invade Texas through Mexico by sending subs to Argentina……lol

          • brenpd

            Actually, We declared war on Japan for the attack on Dec 7th 1941. After which Germany declared war on us.

          • Soon To Be YOUR Gaza cage

            Sam, you must work for the CIA or FBI. Good luck when it all comes down.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            They were equally well expected and aided and abetted by our country’s domestic enemies, against which our military is presenting absolutely zero defense.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            Who pulled off 911 Sam? You still believe the government story on that?

          • Sam

            It was undoubtedly an alien race trying to alter the course of history.

          • brenpd

            Remember the hundreds of veterans exposed to chemical weapons that Saddam had stockpiled and buried?

          • ClubToTheHead

            No.

          • truth

            Hey Washingtons blog, do you see this individual’s IP?

          • Sam

            Does would it matter? But I captured your IP from my log just now dude.
            They found sarin, mustard gas rockets among other nerve-agents. Even the NY Times has recounted their past derogatory statements about George Bush.

          • chrismalllory

            Mustard gas is a blister agent, not a nerve agent. Yes, they did find WMDs, the same one that had been decommissioned and under lock and key since the regime of Bush the First.

          • truth

            LIE #7: “We have seen intelligence over many months that they have
            chemical and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and
            that they’re weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and
            control arrangements have been established.” — President Bush, Feb. 8, 2003, in a national radio address.

            FACT: Despite a massive nationwide search by U.S. and British forces,
            there are no signs, traces or examples of chemical weapons being
            deployed in the field, or anywhere else during the war.

            “Ibn Shaykh al-Libi reported while in [censored: ‘Egyptian’] custody
            that Iraq was supporting al-Qa’ida and providing assistance with
            chemical and biological weapons. Some of this information was cited by
            Secretary Powell in his speech at the United Nations, and was used as a
            justification for the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Ibn Shaykh al-Libi recanted
            the claim after he was rendered to CIA custody on February [censored],
            2003, claiming that he had been tortured by the [censored, likely
            ‘Egyptians’], and only told them what he assessed they wanted to hear.
            For more more details, see Volume III.”

            They knew about the lies and pushed them anyways. That’s called Evil. Facts are facts.

            I see exactly what you are. Injecting division are we? You’re tactics are obvious son. Go back to downloading porn at your computer desk in Virginia HQ.

          • ClubToTheHead

            This Sam guy is a gibbering psychotic.

            He can’t read a word you are saying because he ‘s so preoccupied with the shit going he sees on the inside of his eyelids.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            That’s a pretty well established fact these days everywhere but in Trollmania!

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            The trolls are losing and the Americans are wakin up.

        • Drain52

          And so there we are fighting an aggressive war halfway across the world instead of watching our borders. It’s time for you to say “Uncle,” Sam.

        • LeeO

          That’s a good point. Considering how easily drugs enter the US and how easily our infrastructure – our railroads and power grids, could be attacked – Where is the Semtex and C4, never mind nukes? Doesn’t seem to compute with the picture being painted for us by the government.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Most of the illegal drugs are brought into this country by the CIA, to be sold to finance their black projects. They are on record as having introduced crack cocaine to Los Angeles. Then there was Eugene Hasenfaus.

        • Mark Belk

          The cities that they attack will most likely be the power centers that oppress us and destroy our constitution.

          • bbb126

            One can hope. We need a political purge and I, for one, wont miss any of the bigger cities. Oh well, thanks for taking one for the team but now we can become what we should have.

        • disqus_3BrONUAJno

          It is probably already in the country, having arrived in one of the 99% of shipping containers that aren’t given anything more than a manifest reading. It needn’t be a suitcase nuke, it could be bigger than either of the bombs we dropped on Japan, which would be easy for a third world “terrorist” to construct.

    • Sandilius

      “It’s us or them, man” – THIS is why you haven’t won a war since WWII. Know this – defeat is impossible without the consent of the enemy. NEVER has a battle truly been won against a populace without them deciding to give up, not even Caesar’s campaign against Gaul, which resulted in the entire nation being enslaved. The reason the Romans never fully conquered Scotland is because the Scottish said “Fuck that. Death first.” They slaughtered their own women and children personally rather than let the bastards win, even thought their prospects were hopeless.

      And why do people say “Fuck that, death first” when Americans invade? Because they can see for themselves what you are and NOBODY surrenders to someone that they can see is less than themselves, nobody will EVER surrender to someone who is fighting to prove a point to himself about himself. Such child-like people have no understanding of the other guy, or of warfare and will never let him rest in defeat, as they cannot forgive failure in thenslves or anyone else, they are toxic to the core. It will be evil games forever if you give in, so it must be fighting forever as no matter high the cost, it will never be as high as surrendering to a coward. When the enemy is sickly with fear, he cannot be allowed to win, even if he has vastly over-powered you. That way lies the crushing not of the body but of the soul, which all humanity holds as inviolate.

      You are in Iraq to make yourselves feel good about yourselves because you have nothing in your soul that you value and the only way you can think of to fill the hole is cost somebody else something. The old nations understand this game and there is never an end to it. Perpetual war is preferable.

      “The US should have rolled across that place with 250,000 troops and left nothing behind but cinders.” Anyone can see what is in your heart when you utter these words. THIS is why you are perceived as weak. You are perpetually terrified.

      • ClubToTheHead

        The negative identity of the American Patriot: He doesn’t know who he is unless he knows who he is to hate.

        For the feeble minded many, the loss of authoritarian designated hatred is the loss of personal identity, leaving a hollow shell to contemplate the terror of its own emptiness.

        • brenpd

          Are you quoting from Mein Kampf? Or is that what you really believe? I think you may need to increase the dosage of your meds.

          • bbb126

            I think you may need to shut the fuck up. The man has excellent report and is making sense .

          • brenpd

            Really? And the profanity really establishes the salient points of your argument.

      • Sam

        No, you idiots miss the point…. The reason we haven’t won a war since WWII is because the politicians and the media get in the way. Not to mention that they never put enough boots on the ground. Let the Generals do their job. They call these things wars and the media whines when we lose a couple thousand soldiers over several years! We lost 10x that in single battles during WWII ! These are not wars, they have been minor skirmishes…war games. The Middle East is nothing but a scourge on the Earth that needs to be sterilized…an obvious DNA mutation. Look at the fools. They kill each other in the name of God!

        • the silenced masses

          It’s amazing that there’s people out there as profoundly misinformed as yourself. Politicians and the media are the biggest war-mongering cheerleaders out there, because they are all in the service of Wall Street and the Military Industrial Complex.

          That’s why America is constantly invading countries they have no business being in, like Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Yemen, Pakistan, most of South and Central America, Africa and Asia. Research how many American military bases there are in the world. Research what the true cost of running the Military/Intelligence Industrial Complex actually is. Research how many brutal dictators America has supported over the years, how death squads they have trained, how many terrorists and militant extremists they have supported and still are supporting.

          Most importantly, research the real cost of these wars, the death tolls, the suffering and misery of millions of innocent people whose lives have been destroyed at the hands of the most violent and oppressive country on the planet. Take the time to learn the truth about the American government

          • Sam

            You are misinformed… Note that if it were not for the USA, all of Europe, Africa and Asiabe speaking German now.

          • the silenced masses

            That’s hilarious. Why is it Americans are the only ones who don’t know the actual history of WWII?

            Russia had more to do with the defeat of Germany than any other country. This is a historical fact that everyone living outside of America knows. But of course Americans think they won the war all by themselves, but Hitler lost the war in Russia.

            Not that your ignorance comes as a shock, after all, America ranks well back of all the other developed nations when it comes to education, and creationism is taught in classrooms alongside science. That’s something you only see is backwards countries

          • Sam

            The USA saved Europe. There is absolutely NO way the Russians or the lame armies of Europe could have defeated Germany if the US had stayed out of the war.

          • ClubToTheHead

            The Russians defeated Germany at great cost. The USA came in only after the outcome was pretty well decided.

            Then the USA brought some of the NAZIs back to work in the precursor to the CIA and also in the US missile program. They always like the fascists better. See Lindbergh and Henry Ford.

          • brenpd

            And Russia didn’t do the same?

          • the silenced masses

            I have no doubt you honestly believe that the US “saved” Europe, but your statement is not true.

            Hitler spent two years pounding England, but he could not break them. So he turned his attention to Russia and threw everything he had at them and ended up destroying his army. This is a fact that you should know, but you can easily verify it with the slightest bit of research.

            The US joined in time to help with the clean up. This isn’t to say the US’s role wasn’t important or significant, but America did not win the war or save Europe in the way you are suggesting

          • brenpd

            Hitler changed tactics in the battle of Britan. He had the RAF on the ropes and he switched to bombing cities instead of airfields. He made that mistake. He also made the mistake of attacking Russia. If it wasn’t for the convoys to Russia from the USA, Russia would have fallen. It’s also because the Allies opened a second front in 1944 in Europe that took some of the heat off Russia. All the while we were also fighting the Japanese in the Pacific and winning.

          • Jo

            And Merca landed on da moon too!

            If you’re under 20 start reading…if not you have already been patterned.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4

          • @sam
            Sir, you are totally wrong about wwII. It would not be fair to call the US role in the defeat of the Germans trivial, but it would be say that it was not material either.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            Gimme a break. The Russians had 80% of the German war machine tied down in the old Soviet Union and slaughtered them at a cost of well over 20 million dead

          • Sam

            20 million dead due to a VERY sloppy, poorly trained and inefficient bunch of Russian soldiers…

          • brenpd

            Stalin killed more of his own people than the Germans.

          • bbb126

            Damn near every american is misinformed and it because we are taught lies in our school systems here

          • catniss

            lol…you are overdosing on Macdonalds….get off the monsanto junk mate ….first off….the RUSSIANS did the bulk of the fighting…..the US and their Brit poodles joined in when the war was nearly over…..and IF Germany had won we would have…..no multiculturalism….no “gay rights” and most importantly NO fractional reserve banking ( but you probably don’t know what that is)

          • bbb126

            U are a fucking idiot.

        • truth

          Christians killed Native Americans in the name of God.

          You would have fit in perfectly in Nazi Germany I’m sure manning the Death Camps with your special brand of ignorance.

          Then again, take pity on this Sam character, a disillusioned soul, a troll, or an operative.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            All 3 maybe. These folks are desperate to get us in a war with Russia. If tht happens the “Homeland”will be reduced to ashes.God help us!

          • brenpd

            Are you sure you’re not Mr. Obama? He just made the moral equivalency of the atrocities committed by Christians 1000 years ago to the savages in ISIS are committing in 2015…. TO OTHER MUSLIMS!
            So you’re making the same argument about the Tragedy of the Native Americans? I don’t believe there is anyone still breathing who is responsible for that.

            The bottom line is America isn’t perfect. Nobody is but God. And unless you’ve got something better, THE USA is the best country in the world. I dare you to show me a country where there is more opportunity, more freedom, a higher standard of living on this planet. Why else would millions of people come to the USA (even illegally) Why aren’t there millions immigrating to Spain or Switzerland or Sweden or Iran?

        • freewheelinfranklin543

          War is a Racket Sam. At least according to USMC Major General Smedley Butler winner of 2 Congressional Medals of Honor. He wrote in his book that every US soldier,sailor and Marine was a thug and a bullyboy for the corporations and the banks!
          President Eisenhower spoke out and warned us about Big MIC also!

      • brenpd

        I surmise you aren’t an American. If that’s the case, you’re welcome. After The Spanish-American War, The United States hasn’t conquered any real estate. Any military bases in sovereign countries have been negotiated for. The only land we’ve asked for other than the bases is a place to bury our dead. We fight, then we leave. And we do our best to leave it in better condition than we found it.
        We didn’t lose in Korea… Technically a state of war still exists there. We didn’t lose a battle in Vietnam. It was public opinion and spineless politicians who lost it.
        Now we are in a fight for the survival of western civilization. If the muslim extremists had their way, we would all be living in the 12th century under Sharia Law and women would be property like a car or farm animal. Make no mistake, if they had nuclear weapons, they would use them on America because they are afraid of us! Afraid of allowing women to get an education so they’d realize that there is more to life than cooking, cleaning and making babies and obeying your husband’s every whim.

        I say that the muslim men are terrified of losing their power in muslim society.

        • anonymouse

          Name a country whose population was in a better shape after any engagement by US in 20th century. Nukes were dropped in Japan to make a point to Soviets, who at the time were closer to take over Japan than were allies. Korea? Well, a lot of them came here looking for jobs, didn’t they? Vietnam? Iraq? Where are people who’re better off after US intervention?

          What i did notice that many people on the street were independent from the state and the policies, and that is a welcome respite. There’s still hope, but those from the street must get into action, if the country or the idea of it, is to survive.

          • brenpd

            You’re preaching to the choir 🙂

    • Jo

      Take your meds you raving loony

    • musings2

      So what you are saying is that you feel ashamed of your country for picking a lot of petty fights it cannot win.

    • catniss

      sam is an example why the rest of the world lives in fear of the US…owned by Israel with a significant number of congress holding joint israel/us passports and being suckered into fighting it’s expansionist wars……American kids are sent to fight someone else’s war and then the US public ( world record holders for obesity) are fed junk monsanto food along with junk info (cnn fox etc)…..the joke in europe is …how many Americans can find Ukraine on a map!!!

      • Sam

        The rest of the world SHOULD fear the US! We will be the last ones standing. We are constantly having to come to the rescue because you Europeans are too weak and cowardly.

        • Johnnyrvf

          No, Russia and China will be standing for a lot longer than the U.S. The reason the U.S. has declared all but military war on Russia is because they refuse to become a vassal state. The Ukraine has the CIA’s fingerprints all over it, just as Putin knew it would happen. The reason this war is not escalating is because Russia knows how dangerous the U.S. has become to world peace and stability. You just show a complete arrogance for other cultures that are not your own. Oh and the highest number of kills to a sniper goes to Finland.

          • bbb126

            🙂 nuff said. Especially the end. Fuck Chris Kyle.

    • Soon To Be YOUR Gaza cage

      oh no, we need matial law then don’t we?

    • disqus_3BrONUAJno

      Why should we attack countries which have neither threatened nor attacked us?
      Your form of jingoism is why we are seeing increasing amounts of blowback, and will justify the alliance of past victims that will make 9/11 look like a picnic.

      • Sam

        One reason is that these countries knowingly harbor, fund and train terrorists. What message does that send? Why don’t they police and cleanse their own territory? I think we all know the answer….

        • disqus_3BrONUAJno

          When they try to police and cleanse their own territories, we invade them to do the job for them, and they have to defend themselves against our invasion instead. Then we have the temerity to call their defense an action by insurgents. There is no country on the planet that invests more time, money, or effort on supporting terrorism than the U.S.

  • Jo

    As the philosemitic charade of the Auschwitz fest gets pushed in everybody’s face (albeit without the heroes of Russia) and the Germans bend over backwards nearly 70 years later still burdened with their collective guilt, arming and egging on the abomination in occupied apartheid Palestine the Mercan masses delight in and celebrate the Anglozionazi wars of the thugocracy in Washing town packaged and sanitised as the serial profitable genocide of our wars are sold to the “smart” phone jabbing ghouls and zombies as real history rather than the debauchery of Pentacon Kill Industries. The triumph of ignorance that Merca has become is a vision of desperation and futility that will one day come back to haunt us all.

    • musings2

      By now, most of the real Holocaust survivors are in their graves. The rest of the people who are being used right now as a smokescreen probably have their genuine stories to tell, and it is an anniversary of sorts. The Holocaust was real, but it isn’t a blank check on future generations to do whatever you feel like doing out of fear or power drives. Plus, the people pushing it never experienced it. They are using the sufferings of others for their own ends. I find it distasteful and dishonoring of the beloved people who struggled against their past and their losses to get on with life, without complaint or injustice-collecting. It’s a bloody shirt that the worst people want to wave, explicitly or implicitly. I think Bush used it, without ever talking about it.

      • Soon To Be YOUR Gaza cage

        the number of six million has been floating around since at least 1915…kind of discredits it’s use in the 1940’s.

    • S.M. Stirling

      I thought a Nazi would show up… 8-).

    • brenpd

      With a name like “Jo” It’s safe to deduce you’re a woman, right? If so, why don’t you go live in a place where Sharia Law is the law of the land, where women have no rights and are the property of their husbands whom they were married to as young as 9 years old. Have yourself circumcized as is the custom in many muslim cultures with a dirty razorblade and no anesthetic. Never be seen in public without a male family member. accuse someone of rape and unless you’ve got 4 male witnesses, you’ll probably be stoned to death for adultery. Expect to be treated no better than a farm animal who’s only jobs are cooking, cleaning and making babies.
      Let alone be allowed to have an opinion or to voice it in a public forum.

  • jadan

    Haven’t seen Eastwood’s film, and will avoid any opportunity to see it. Making a hero out of this creep is like making a hero from one of these drone operators. One of them came to his senses lately and discovered how much he really loathes himself for doing what he did. What makes this Kyle character any different? From my perspective, he’s a coward. Eastwood has much to answer for, influencing a generation of callow youth to believe cowardly sniping is admirable.

    • Sam

      Do you know how many lives snipers save? They are heroes! How are they cowards? Are bomber pilots cowards? Are Howitzer Crews cowards? Are all soldiers defending their partner and own life a coward?And by the way, Chris is dead….murdered.
      And by the way, it is an AWESOME movie! Eastwood is one of the greatest directors of all time!

      • jadan

        Techno war doesn’t make heroes. People who drop bombs on civilian populations are cowards. The artillery crews sponsored and supported by your heroic CIA who are shelling their own countrymen in Ukraine are cowards. Kyle didn’t save lives, he took them and bragged about it because he liked it. Eastwood is a lying fuckhead. But you’re wasting your time arguing with me, Sam. War is a fools game today. I’m agin it and I have no respect for the techno warriors who pull triggers and push buttons and don’t know why and what’s worse, don’t give a shit. I’m impressed by warriors like the ones who fought the British Crown in the late 1700’s. These were real men fighting for a real cause. They weren’t your steroided cultists who follow orders for no good reason. The soldier of today does not serve freedom. Soldiers today are political tools, no better than mercenaries and they have no idea what a real soldier is. The suicide rate is very high because many of these soldiers wake up and realize they have bought a fraudulent bill of goods.

        • Sam

          What’s the Ukraine got to do with anything.The US goes out of its way to avoid civilians. But a civilian becomes a target when he or she picks up a weapon and targets a soldier. So you’d prefer man to go back to sword fighting? What a joke. Your a product of government education no doubt. I am wasting my time with you…. the best part of you ran down your Mama’s leg dude. And the suicide rate is high because of PTSD…. no different than it any other war.

          • Helmut

            You are a crude and vulgar lout, and your level of insight and general intelligence is on the low end of the scale, to put it mildly. You belong to the herd and you act exactly like a member of the unthinking, crude, herd.

          • Sam

            Careful Helmut… Swallow before you speak. Something just drizzled down your chin.

          • jo

            sam, read please for the sake of humanity pick up a book,i beg you.you make yourself look foolish. i was once foolish also,im not trying to tell you somthing for the sake of hearing myself.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Do you have a degree in ad hominem, or is it merely your only competency?

          • SKPG

            The Iraqi war was a war of aggression you idiot, the US were targeted civilians when they bombed Baghdad. All the drone attacks in Pakistan that thousands of civilians, where they avoiding civilizations too? No you are the product of government education, and government propaganda you stupid sheep.

          • Sam

            The drones are targeting the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and other militant groups. Any civilians killed in these attacks are minimal. Maybe these “civilians” should be careful of the company they keep….

          • Sean Jones

            Are you insane? “Any civilians killed in these attacks are minimal.” I suppose China or Russia could claim the same if they drop a nuke on your killitary buddies. (Yes, that’s is the combination of kill and military because you all are only trained to murder.)

          • Libertymike

            He’s trolling.

          • NofDen

            They didn’t drop a nuke. You demonic liars on here serving the devil and communism, muslims, etc

          • bobbyalpy

            It’s killing not murder.In war it is an Infantrymans sacred duty to smite as many enemies as possible.That said,soldiers are bound to obey only lawful orders.They are far more capable than you are of making that determination.

          • Ben Dover

            What??? We have killed many more civilians with drones than supposed militant groups. We are the Nazis now but the RA RA neocons just can’t let go of their sycophantic love of the military. Sorry but “just doing my job” doesn’t cut it. Going to a foreign country to kill people who do not threaten us is a crime, period.

          • bobbyalpy

            Actually,under the war powers act it isn’t.National self interest alone is a legal and suitable rout to war if they refuse terms.

          • LeeO

            out of its way to avoid civilians? I think not. Reckless disregard is more like it.

          • Sam

            The US uses precision air strikes unmatched by any other military force in the world to minimize civilian casualties. Unfortunately, civilian casualties have and always will occur during any war. To make matters worse, these cowardly terrorists, insurgents or however you’d like to label them SHIELD themselves with civilians.They use churches, hospitals, schools, etc. making civilian casualties unavoidable.

          • zman

            You sound just like the Israeli propagandists. Same lies and righteousness. Just remember your BS when someone drops a big one on us. They’ll use a precision weapon though and there’ll only be a few innocent deaths. If you really believe the crap about ‘having unmatched precision’, you really are delusional. You might start by googling Russian armaments. The only reason you don’t ‘know’ about them is because they aren’t using them.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            You are full of it budtroll!

          • Bush

            That isn’t why any military uses precision arms….you use them to cut down sortie rates as every mission brings the chance of counter fire and removes the aircraft from more pending missions. Obviously you know little about how military operations work.

          • Sam

            I don’t think you understand who you’re talking to sir….. I think it is pretty obvious to MOST people the main reason why we use precision strikes on military targets. You missed the point! These type of strikes MINIMIZE civilian casualties! The recurring theme of the majority of these dopes is that the US is intentionally targeting civilians. This is simply NOT true from my experience.

          • Bush

            I did not say in any way, nor do I believe that the US military seeks to cause civilian casualties…what I do say is that from a military perspective precision munitions are for more effective battlefield results not some airy fairy desire to protect people. The only person who would believe that is some cynic trying to justify this spate of idiotic conflicts we have had over the last 20 years.

          • bobbyalpy

            We don’t need justification.War powers act remember.A soldier doesn’t send himself to war and while he doesn’t go looking to harm civilians it’s all part of the fog of war.Shit Happens….suck it up and scrape the sand out of your vagina.Anyone who doesn’t want to become a grease stain can be somewhere other than a war zone,or they can fuming surrender.wether or not they perish is in most cases,entirely up to them.

          • Jim 63

            Your “experience” is incorrect.

            Google “US drone strikes funerals rescuers” and you will see reports documenting US strikes on not only funerals of victims of drone strikes, ie. targeting the mourners, but also US drones strikes that hit shortly after a prior strike, ie. targeting the rescuers.

            Google “Bureau of Investigative Journalism 4% al Qaeda” and see how that is the percentage of drone victims in Pakistan that were al Qaeda members, and only 295 of nearly 2,400 killed were even “militants”. The rest were innocent civilians or unknown.

            Google “Guardian 41 targeted but 1,147 killed” to see where strikes intended to kill targeted “terrorists” killed 28 civilians for ever “terrorist” targetted.

            Then note that these investigative analysis only investigate a small fraction of the many thousands of drones strikes launched by the military and/or CIA.

            Google “Spiegel Online Obama’s List” and see that the “war on terror” is now a war on opium growers and traffickers and even a “suspect” in an “insider attack” who deserted from the Afghan army, in order to “deter” deserters and prevent them from allegedly joining the taliban. Since when is growing a drug (the major export product of Afghanistan under the US/NATO occupation), or deserting, cause for death by drone; both illegal extrajudicial killings of non terrorists and non combatants.

            Finally, note that who is a “legitimate target” of drones is done in secret, with no independent review of allegations and findings whatsoever, all done by the land that at one time asserted that “due process of law” is a fundamental human right.

            I repeat – we target funerals and rescuers, and drug growers and army deserters.

            Open your eyes to a broader “experience” that is being suffered by innocent people around the world who have reason to no longer consider us the “beacon of freedom” but the deliverer of silent death.

          • Sam

            And you believe what you read on the Internet? I’ll bet you believe what you hear on the nightly news, too. Wake up!

          • Jim 63

            Instead of a non-specific ambiguous post, why don’t you tell me with specificity what I posted that you disagree with. But since your posts above demonstrate a near slavish belief in the righteousness of our armed interventions in foreign nations and the benevolence of our bombs, versus the malevolence of bombs used by “terrorists”, I’m sure you have no factual counterpoint to rebut numerous reports of repeated US drone targeting of rescuers and funerals.

          • Stephen Garland

            You gave me a good laugh Sam. You used the wrong spelling of a word in a sentence where you are disparaging someone for being a product of a government education. You’re (you are = you’re, not “your”) obviously a product of a government education. You are just the kind of cannon fodder our government needs to police the world. Carry on soldier and if you’re not a soldier please take your hard-on to your local recruitment office and get signed up. It appears to be the only way to rid the earth of you dumb asses these days now that there are warning labels on everything.

          • Sam

            Big deal chump… Apple’s “autocorrect” can be a nuisance. Anybody can vouch for its erroneous errors.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            That explains why there were more civilians murdered in Iraq than there were insurgents.

          • bobbyalpy

            He wasn’t in Iraq.

          • Who is he?

          • Man on the street

            The Iraqi civilians have avoided messing with the Americans, on the other hand, the Americans traveled thousands of miles to mess with the them. Anyone who does not admit that our invasion of Iraq was a crime, not a mistake is a hypocrit.

          • James Williams

            Even Cheney admitted it was illegal.

            Iraqi civilians are actually justified under international law in resisting the invasion force. It is allowed, period.

          • bobbyalpy

            sure they are…but than they are no longer civilians under international law.By remaining on the battlefield and resisting they become combatants and can be dispensed with.Or the “civilians”,can fuck off the battle field and keep going.

          • bobbyalpy

            Do the Iraqi “civilians” provide any material support to fighters while we are engaged in touching off their sons?If so than they are no longer civilians.If a mother hands her Iraqi army son a fucking thermos,and that Iraqi army son is currently a belligerent,she has made herself belligerent as well and is fair game.

          • 454 casull

            Jadan is a loud mouth idiot who would run to the border if he was called up cuz he is the real coward not those who serve.

          • zman

            And you’re a perfect example of why we’re in the situation we find ourselves in. ‘Merika, wrong or right’, huh? BaaaBaa.

          • bobbyalpy

            Hooah!Love or or leave it peckerwood.

          • Sam

            No doubt. He’d crap in his britches in a fire fight and curl up in a ball like a little girl…

          • jo

            dear sam, im a pretty tough man and would certainly make you crap your pants,but out of love and compassion would not harm you.please find a book and read it , may i suggest the bible.love is the only way to conquer hate.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            You must have a good case of cognitive dissonance. The US military has killed more civilians than the rest of the planet put together over the last 117 years or so. Try doing a little historical research and quit trollin.

          • If the US goes out of its way to avoid civilians, it needs some more experience, because it killed over a million civilians in Iraq, by its own records.

        • James Williams

          Agreed. There is no glory in killing someone who cannot fight back. That is butchery. Slaughter.

          The last decent foe the United States faced was in Korea, and they lost. They lost Vietnam too, but that was not a war against a conventional army.

          • Jason

            dude, we didn’t lose in korea, it was a stalemate. they had 20 soldiers for every 1 of ours, we mowed them down. Better Equipment, training, but you just get to a point where you run out of ammo. so it ended in a stalemate.

          • NofDen

            Check out the U.N. bull shit.

          • NofDen

            We lost Korea because of the U.N. crap. We lost Vietnam because of so called peaceniks. the communist’s were behind many of the Vietnam protests.
            the war was won in Vietnam and lost on the some of the city streets of the U.S.
            I know this blog is 25 days old here.

      • Helmut

        Yes, they are all cowards. Their victims cannot fight back. It is sheer barbarism to kill civilians in war. And don’t forget, when people are attacked by foreigners they have every right to fight back. You would do the same.

        • Sam

          No Helmut, it’s these terrorists who are cowards.They intentionally target civilians.They hide themselves inside churches, hospitals, schools, etc.making civilian casualties unavoidable. Even big bad Bin Laden hid himself among women and children! Imagine that…the ultimate punk ass coward. Take your ass back to Germany with your Neo-Nazi buddies where you belong.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            Who creates,trains,finances and arms these terrorists?

          • NofDen

            obama for one.

          • zman

            You’re such an idiot. Are you the last person on the planet to know OBL was the same thing as LHO? A patsy…and as far as neo-Nazi…look in the mirror. God, no wonder the rest of the world is horrified by us…there’s no telling what we’ll do next…but whatever it is I’m sure you’ll hail it as great.

          • James Williams

            There’s always a useful idiot at the ready to cheer war crimes by his nation, and excoriate other countries who do the same thing.

          • keithmoon22

            Better make that MILLIONS of “useful idiots” who happen to have something you lack. It’s called Patriotism.

          • Sam

            Would you rather the world DID NOT fear us? Please do not have children. We don’t need pacifistic genes infecting pool.

          • 454 casull

            No shit dude ‘ that asshole z man replied to me as you can see above but his response was so asinine I would not justify it with one of my own.

          • Freedom don’t come free

            Hi all you piece of shits! You call yourselves Americans! And that’s quite funny considering you’ve done nothing to support America or nothing to defend your freedom as an American citizen. Yet you bastards talk the most shit behind your keyboards! Guess what Chris Kyle did he saved Americans who fucking put there life on the line so you could talk bullshit without having your heads cut off he saved a mothers and fathers son, a father who had kids and a wife. He saved many American military combatants because he shot and killed the enemy! What is the American military force for? To protect our country from people who intend to harm us! Keep talking shit back and fourth though because nothing will change you and all of your idiotic views and thought on war! You’ve never dragged your best friend off the battlefield with no legs! But yet people are concerned with the deaths of innocent people! It’s part of war! Have some common since! You can not prevent all civilian casualties! And people stop googling everything because you don’t know shit! The internet has no 100% accurate statements nobody except the men at war and people that give there life’s so you can live.

          • NewHampshire

            To me, you are not a hero if you brag about killing Americans, especially when it never happened, or lied about boasting about punching a geriatric senior with arthritis. I don’t know which is worse — to actually do something about that, or to be so proud to do something like that, that you would make it up?

          • jose

            he saved many american. what about the american indians wipe out for white people english son of english american now and all kind piece shit from europe chris kyle if he was born 300 years ago,now your are counting thousand indians y bufalos death too. put there life on the line, how many indians get head cut off children woman men animal kill for white people. no call terrorist others when all white did terrorist hundred year ago now no neded more for terrorist. i no see any american indian in usa.

          • Jabrea Longz

            just reading your English was painful …

          • Sam

            The Indian tribes were killing each other when Europeans got here Jose!

          • bobbyalpy

            Lol…the way Jose puts it,You’d think they were all sitting around smoking peace pipes and patiently waiting to be conquered.I have Jose’s anger has more to do with how Winfield Scott trounced Santa Anna,than how the big bad White man hurt the poor,sweet and innocent native peoples…lol.

          • 454 casull

            No argument there ‘KYLE WAS A HERO .

          • John X

            Your definition of a hero is different than mine. Parents that have to work two sometimes three jobs and raise their kids in this crazy world are the real heroes. Doctors that leave the comfort of their home to save lives in poor countries are the real heroes. People that work to help teenagers from broken homes are the real heroes. Blindly following orders like a robot with no feelings or conscious is not a hero. I never asked anyone to go to war for me and the day a real war presents itself, I will be willing to fight for the right reasons, not because some politician said so. These wars were pushed on the American people with lies and deception. Not all soldiers are worthy of the title, hero. Don’t be so naive.

          • frank smith

            Of all the comments on here left by people just trying to disprove the people in the comments section, the argument about how people that wake up at 5 am to sit in traffic are the real heroes, has to be the lamest comment.. long sentence…Go Frank smith!

          • Sam

            Give me a f**king break man.. hahahaha

          • bobbyalpy

            A soldier is awarded his rank.wether he is worthy is for higher ranking soldiers to determine.not you.WHAT IS THE CODE OF THE BAYONETTE?

          • wilson blauheuer

            you spell worse than a ten year old. If you can’t spell, you probably aren’t too adept at reasoning and logic either.

          • bobbyalpy

            Oh my…I was drunk.Sorry my spelling doesn’t meet your standard.I’m guessing that that is not your problem with me though.

          • frank smith

            Too much ranting

          • Sam

            Well put !

          • frank smith

            First sensible comment I’ve read so far

          • James Williams

            uh, do you not see the similiarity between fallujah and nazi atrocities?

            It is called COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT.

            Attacking hospitals, using chemical weapons, etc. The Nazis would have approved.

            PS: The US hired ex-SS guys to train their forces in Vietnam, so watch who you call a ‘nazi’.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            Probably never heard of “Operation Paperclip”!

          • Sam

            Not ANY similarity by any stretch of the imagination….

        • S.M. Stirling

          Helmut, Helmut… civilians always get killed in wars. Always have, always will. What do you think happened in Dresden? Or are you still steaming about that one?

          • 454 casull

            No shit ‘look at DRESDEN and HAMBURG which were bombed at night by the cowardly british ‘these assholes didnt have the guts to bomb military targets by day like the U.S did so they bombed women and children under the cover of darkness ‘that is the true sign of a coward ‘why SIR ARTHUR HARRIS head of british bomber command was not brought up for war crimes like the nazis is a question many still ask today.

          • NofDen

            They were bombing cities where industries made war goods. This shortened the war.

          • 454 casull

            Yeah they like to use that excuse ‘real brave men bombing civilian women and children ‘at least the americans restricted themselves to military targets like AIRCRAFT FACTORIES AND RAIL YARDS and they bombed IN BROAD DAYLIGHT and faced the might of the german LUFTWAFFE ‘ THEY DID’NT HIDE IN THE DARK LIKE THE COWARDLY BRITISH .SIR ARTHUR HARRIS HEAD OF BRITISH BOMBER COMMAND SHOULD HAVE BEEN HUNG FOR HIS CRIMES RIGHT ALONGSIDE GOERING AND HITLER HAD THEY NOT TAKEN THE COWARDS WAY OUT .

          • NofDen

            Screw you a.hole those bombing shortened the war and saved many of out troops lives;. The Germans and the Japs attacked us, they got what they deserve. No shutup.

          • 454 casull

            Yeah their women and children attacked us alright ‘what a asshole and coward you are if you advocate killing women and children .

          • bobbyalpy

            The British are our brethren by blood and language.They had a claim on vengeance after what the Kraut’s did to London.You want to hang British Heroes?You won’t find them alone by any means…nor would they submit to be hung under your inverted sense of justice.We did give plenty of Kraut’s the drop though if it makes you feel any better.

          • bobbyalpy

            Need I Remind you asshats that to the victor goes the spoils…and the privledge of writing the history.Do you really think the US or UK gives two shits that we razed some kraut city to the ground?The fucking Kraut’s made a shambles of London and killed and displaced many thousands.Mostly old men,women and children.You see where I’m going here? “When you sow the wind,you reap the whirlwind”-“Bomber Harris.

          • zman

            That’s real cute, did you get your jollies? Who could forget that we firebombed an entire city full of civilians?

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            We fire bombed a lot of cities and have killed more civilians the last 100 years than the rest of the planet’s psychos combined. Worked on the Indians. Kill the women and children cause it is safer and easier.

          • James Williams

            Dresden was cowardice too. What on earth is your point?

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            Dresden was a warcrime.

          • NofDen

            Not, the Nazi’s attacked, Japan attacked. The U.S. finished the job.

        • Sam

          I always liked to just shoot them in the knee or occasionally the balls and keep moving….

        • NofDen

          Terrorists, not civilians.They are using their civilian clothing to get close to the troops and then killing them with bombs or grenade’s,etc.
          Look at 9-11, Marine barracks in Lebanon. This has been going on for 35-50 years in the modern era alone.
          Do any of these terrorist organizations have uniforms.

          • NewHampshire

            WE didn’t belong in Iraq is the whole point.

          • NofDen

            They had wmd’s, hussein was a tryant, killing his own people at will.

          • jose

            we didnt belong to usa too. the indians are the real owners they get killed by terrorist.

          • bobbyalpy

            Possession is nine tenths of the law when it comes to these situations.

          • jose

            yes all army of the world take note catolic muslin jew comunist no comunst countrys, al men born with gun if you get distracted they put the dick inside you you girls, me grandma . see what happens with all american indians, texas stolen from mexican from indians. and so on

          • NofDen

            Jose- learn to spell. Texas was Not stolen, it was won in a war.
            Santa Anna was defeated at the battle of San Jacinto.

          • Jabrea Longz

            still painful

          • Sam

            Sneak back across the border where you belong Jose…

        • mmorris

          you are an absolute idiot

      • musings2

        Hey, Buffalo Bill who did you kill, over the hill?
        Does it even matter that who he killed might have been someone running out to get food or medicine for a suffering person inside his miserable hovel during a siege.
        Tell us about how Saddam attacked us in NYC, okay? So it will be all right whatever we did to the least of these our brethren.

        How does it feel to go through life with only loyalty to your gang members and no regard for the rest of the human race.

        In the end, it will come back to us in spades.

        • disqus_3BrONUAJno

          Maybe my memory fails me, but Saddam was what to Saudi Arabia, from which the majority of the 9/11 scapegoats originated?

          • Cin

            Well with that line of thinking shouldn’t your first question be why didn’t the USG attack Saudi Arabia? Instead they did the opposite…
            http://www.wanttoknow.info/saudisflown913fbi

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            The answer to that is almost obvious. Saddam had made the mistake of trying to kill Daddy Bush too many times, and then he made the whopper, he tried to create an gold-backed currency (along with Ghaddfi, and others) so they could stop accepting the dollar for their oil, like Iran did. Now you really know why we’re pissed at Iran. It’s going to take more than the IAEA saying that the Iranians don’t have any nukes or the ability to make them to keep the Zionists from starting WW3 (or 4) by unleashing the Israeli arsenal on them.

          • James Williams

            what? saddam is connected to the 9/11 guys?

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Only to the degree that your sarcasm detector is inoperative.

          • kerston

            Iraq had nothing to do with 911…I can’t believe how many people still don’t get that. Iraq was based on lies about WMDs.

        • wilson blauheuer

          all US forces had rules which they were bound to follow if they didn’t want to be charged with murder. Do you really think a stable person with a family is going to risk his freedom to shoot noncombatants on a battlefield with plenty of legitimate human targets? To shoot someone, snipers are supposed to see a legitimate reason, which is not of the snipers own making. If you really think the average soldier, and especially the hyper dedicated elite soldiers are on the battlefield acting as loose cannons, you are delusional from your political agenda.

      • freewheelinfranklin543

        It ws an unjust,illegal and Unconstitutional war based as all wars are on lies. Shooting people defending their country from an illegal and unwarranted invasion is a legal action. Jesse Ventura is going to make out just fine on the proceeds.

        • bobbyalpy

          Actually it was a wholly legal war.The United States decides which wars are legal for The United States.Most people understand that concept.War is a Sovreign right that all nations are free to engage in,should they choose.Unwarranted according to who?you?You fall nowhere in the chain of command or the government,Which means you do not have the standing to challenge the legality of the war.That you feel that the war is unjust is irrelevant.The Mexican-American War could be called unjust but it was wholly legal.You don’t Imagine we are going to get all fucking sentimental like you and give back Texas,Arizona,New Mexico and California do you?

      • archer

        I have no doubt he saved American lives, but the bottom line is we invaded the country for other reasons than protecting America, it was an illegal war in which many Iraqi’s and some of our own were killed. The use of DU munitions should be considered a war crime in itself.

        • S.M. Stirling

          Dude, there are no legal wars. There are no illegal wars. War is not subject to law. War is the exercise of coercion through raw violence.

          Oh, and DU busts stuff up and kills people. This is what weapons are supposed to do. It’s a feature, not a bug.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            Got news for you. The conduct of wars does have rules. The Geneva Conventions which the USA has signed. https://www.icrc.org/en/war-and-law/treaties-customary-law/geneva-conventions
            Also The Rules of Land Warfare US ARMY
            Also Operational Law Handbook 2014
            Depleted Uranium has a half life of about 4 billion years and is toxic to boot It’s use is a warcrime. In Iraq it has caused thousands of cancers and horrific birth defects. Same goes to US servicemen and women and their families.
            You really don’t appear to have much real world knowledge. IMHO!

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Actually, depleted uranium has a half life of 4.458 billion years, but what’s half a billion years?:-) Because of the use of depleted uranium in every military adventure since Bosnia, we are the only country that has committed nuclear war, with the help of the jet stream, against the entire planet. S.M. Stirling is about as educated as those in power want us to be.

          • bobbyalpy

            Waaaaa

          • zman

            Are you and Sam twins?

        • freewheelinfranklin543

          When you shoot women and children you enrage their family members and friends and they join the resistance and guess what? They kill American soldiers and Marines. Kyle’s sniping of civilians cost more American lives in the long run.

          • Sam

            These so-called “civilians” became enemy combatants(targets) the moment they took up arms against our soldiers. Kyle carried out his job magnificently!
            RIP Kyle… The Ultimate American Hero!

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            They had a right under international law to fight back against this illegal under international law invasion and illegal under the US
            Constitution which all American soldiers take an oath to preseve protect and defend against all enemies foreign and domestic. You sound like a domestic enemy of the US Constitution to me or are you a foreign troll trying to start more wars?

          • Sam

            When a so-called “civilian” fires or even points a gun at a soldier they also have earned the “right” to die. Just like anyone who threatens a police officer with a weapon. Expect to die….

        • 454 casull

          Soldiers don’t get to pick and choose where they fight ‘he served his country leave it at that .

          • bbb126

            First of all its called awol. We dont shoot our people for refusing to fight for bullshit. If you dont have to listen to common sense as its clouded by your annoying “mericanness” then conversely i dont have to respect someone like him and furthermore, good riddance. He didnt just “serve his country” he killed innocents and enjoyed it. Nowhere in military training does it say, lose your humanity and kill indiscriminately. Any one who comes home from war proud of what theyve done needs to be sterilized if not exterminated. Glad hes dead. Clint eastwood was an amazing fixture in cinema but has since lost my respect. Glorifying war and killing of humans is just fucking disgusting.

          • 454 casull

            he served his country ‘ you don’t get to pick and choose your battles moron if you are a soldier ‘you go where your told and shoot who you are told to shoot .

          • bobbyalpy

            What the fuck is wrong with you people?A FUCKING AMERICAN SOLDIER IS AMERICAN….AS IN NOT SOME JAWA GOATFUCKER,AN AMERICAN.WE ARE OBLIGATED ONLY TO OUR OWN PEOPLE AND IF OTHERS DO NOT WANT CONFLICT THAN FUCKING SURRENDER WHEN YOU HAVE A HUGE ARMY PARKED IN YOUR SHITTY DESERT.OR TAKE OPTION TWO AND FIGHT.EITHER WAY WE DONT FUCKING CARE.YOU CAN THINK IT’S DIGUSTING ALL YOU LIKE,YOU WILL NEVER BE IN A POSITION TO DO ANYTHING BUT OFFER YOUR SHITE OPINION YOU BELLY CRAWLING WORM.HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!THIS IS NOT A FUKING GLOBAL GOVERNMENT ASSHOLE IT’S A SOVREIGN NATION STATE THAT YOU ARE ACTUALY REQUIRED BY LAW IN SOME INSTANCES TO KEEP GOOD FAITH WITH!THE LIVES OF YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS AND ALLIED COMRADES SHOULD ALWAYS BE WORTH MORE TO ALL OF YOU THAN THE LIVES OF ANY NUMBER OF NON AMERICANS.WHY SHOULD AMERICAN LIVES BE WORTH MORE TOO YOU?DEEERP…..BECAUSE YOU ARE AMERICANS AND WE ARE YOUR FUCKING PEOPLE.ITS YOUR FUCKING DUTY TO VALUE THE LIVES OF YOUR PEOPLE OVER ALL OTHERS YOU HOPELESS RETARDS!

        • bobbyalpy

          It is in no way illegal when the government approves it.How can you not understand this?Moreover,The victors generally decide what is legal and what is not in the countries they CONQUER!

      • disqus_3BrONUAJno

        Treason is defined in the Constitution at Article 3, Section 3, as consisting “only in levying War against (the United States), or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”
        All members of the American military take an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; (and to) bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”
        When the military is committed to foreign actions without a declaration of war by Congress, as required by Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 11 of the Constitution, that is a violation of the Constitution, arguably the action of domestic enemies.
        When a member of the military participates in an unconstitutional foreign military deployment, s/he violates both the Constitution and his/her oath to “support and defend” it, giving “aid and comfort” to it’s “domestic enemies,” committing treason by the definition given by the Constitution.

        • S.M. Stirling

          Snicker. Oh, brother, there’s a wealth of abysmal historical ignorance there. Did you ever hear of Decatur and the war against the Barbary Corsairs?

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Since neither of us was there, how is that germain to contemporaneous treason?

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            You are dealin with a troll who thinks there are no rules of warfare. Doesn’t know about the Geneva Conventions,The Rules of Land Warfare,The US Constitution or the UN Charter. Evidently never heard of Nuremburg either.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            PNAC doesn’t have any use for anything that might get in the way of their quest for worldwide American hegemony.

          • bobbyalpy

            Not treason…president has war powers…if congress funds an undeclared action,by funding it they are in essence approving the presidents war powers and shelving the declaration of war.

          • The War Powers act has never been vetted by the Supreme Court.

            As such, the president has no legitimate powers that allow him to actin a treasonous manner with impunity or immunity.

            Treason is defined in the Constitution at Article 3, Section 3, as consisting “only in levying War against (the United States), or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”
            All members of the American military take an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; (and to) bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”
            When the military is committed to foreign actions without a declaration of war by Congress, as required by Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 11 of the Constitution, that is a violation of the Constitution, arguably the action of domestic enemies.
            When a member of the military participates in an unconstitutional foreign military deployment, s/he violates both the Constitution and his/her oath to “support and defend” it, giving “aid and comfort” to it’s “domestic enemies,” committing treason by the definition given by the Constitution.

          • bobbyalpy

            The fact that the Supreme Court has refused to ever hear any challenge to the war powers act means that the court implicitly approves.When they feel otherwise it is their privledge to strike it down,but as for now it stands.You should know this.

          • You have a highly divergent understanding of the operation of the Supreme Court. You should inform it by reading the Madison decision.

          • bobbyalpy

            The point is that the Supreme Court refuses to hear challenges to the war powers act,by refusing to hear those cases they are in essence legitimizing the war powers concept.No president will ever be charged with treason and certainly no president will ever face justice outside our system.We recognize no authority save our own.Were any president in actual danger of prosecution after leaving office,he would be immediately pardoned by his successor and for good reason.

          • It doesn’t really matter if the SCOTUS hears challenges to anything now that their legal reasoning is as solid as Mickey Mouse’s. The War Powers Act is violated as regularly as the Constitution, whereas it only allows the executive to engage the military for 90 days without a declaration of war by Congress, which has only happened once in the last century.

          • bobbyalpy

            So you agree with me when I say that the Supreme Court need only hear a challenge to the war powers act if their intention were to reign the executive in?I disagree with your account of The Court.It’s the only branch that can challenge the other two.

          • You need to read more about the balance of powers inherent in the Constitution. Any of the three branches are able to challenge either or both of the others. The SCOTUS has absolutely zero enforcement capability of their decisions. All enforcement capabilities reside in the executive branch.

          • bobbyalpy

            The Supreme Court does not need enforcement abilities.No modern law enforcement agency would openly defy a Supreme Court ruling.Those days are long gone…in matters of law the Supreme Court is the final arbiter.The Executive has no authority outside of war powers,that allow it to defy The High Court.

          • The SCOTUS has always been the final arbiter, but they have never had a need for any enforcement mechanism because they never go above the least important cases unless they can find some wonky approach that wouldn’t mean anything to anyone in the real world anyway. Mack, Prinze, et al is a case in point. It affirmed the power and authority of county sheriffs to enforce any law against any bad actor, but so far, no one has been arrested for treason or malfeasance, even if it was committed in plain view on the media.
            War powers don’t give the executive any powers they didn’t already have.
            What is a “high court”? That language doesn’t appear anywhere but in the media.

          • bobbyalpy

            The United States Supreme Court is The Nations high court.I was saving myself from Having to write out United States Supreme Court because I was feeling lazy and I assumed you would get my meaning.Since you did get my meaning,I also assume you are splitting hairs to be annoying.I’m no longer sure why we are arguing anymore.We both seem to understand that No President of The United States will ever be impeached for a military action against mere foreigners.What’s more,there is a better chance of hell freezing over than an American citizen being delivered to an international tribunal,let alone a President.We police our own if and when it suits us.World opinion and sensibilities mean exactly nothing.

          • Do you have a phobia of acronyms? SCOTUS works fine.

          • bobbyalpy

            It didn’t occur to me…honestly.I’ll use that from now on.

          • Nobody in the government is going to get impeached because they are all guilty of provable treason, but as long as nobody talks… They will stuff their pockets until the dollar becomes so worthless that no one wants to use it anymore and most have moved to straight barter or begun to use gold and silver. Something will be a trigger to send the cockroaches scurrying for their underground condos, after which we should be finding a way to make sure that’s where they will stay, period. There will be more then enough resources and angry people to seal them into their condos. Then, we restore and enforce the Constitution with the support of true Oathkeepers. That is one organization that has the potential to restore the republic, if enough people can become acquainted and supportive enough of it before the collapse goes too far for anything for Mad Max tactics.

          • bobbyalpy

            The current President is the only one I think I’d like to see strung up on treason charges.

          • Obama is just another executive puppet, like all before him since JFK, and hanging the puppet only inconveniences the puppeteers, they have plenty to fill in for his minor role. If all of the traitors in the government and the military aren’t rooted out, it doesn’t finish the job.

          • bobbyalpy

            Still…it’d be nice to see him hang.I mean this turd of a president makes Jimmy Carter look good.I’m sure Carter is stoked that he’s no longer considered the worst president ever.

          • That is the kind of blood lust that carries homicidal ideation to school shootings.

          • bobbyalpy

            No it doesn’t.Stop being dramatic.There is clear precedent for hanging traitors.To equate that with pubescent,poorly disciplined retards shooting up schools is silly.

          • There is clear precedent for hanging traitors, and we could start with every surviving president (the correct usage of that word, by comparison). Most school and theatre shooters are not pubescent or poorly disciplined, since almost all of them had no trouble with law before they started killing people.
            Liking to see people die is the definition of blood lust, as you expressed a desire to in your first sentence.

          • bobbyalpy

            I was in the infantry for four years.Bloodlust has it’s uses.

          • Just as the oath you took to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies has its uses.

          • bobbyalpy

            I never violated the oath and challenge you to prove otherwise.

          • Only you have the facts, so you’ll have to judge for yourself.
            Treason is defined in the Constitution at Article 3, Section 3, as consisting “only in levying War against (the United States), or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”
            All members of the American military take an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; (and to) bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”
            When the military is committed to foreign actions without a declaration of war by Congress, as required by Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 11 of the Constitution, that is a violation of the Constitution, arguably the action of domestic enemies.
            When a member of the military participates in an unconstitutional foreign military deployment, s/he violates both the Constitution and his/her oath to “support and defend” it, giving “aid and comfort” to it’s “domestic enemies,” committing treason by the definition given by the Constitution.

          • bobbyalpy

            Hanging traitors is not bloodlust,it’s Justice.I value AMERICAN lives only and to a lesser degree the lives of allies who we are bond by treaty to protect.Everyone outside our circle of protection must fend for themselves.You have to break some eggs to make an omelette.

          • Then if you have violated an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, I’ll be happy to personally place the noose around your neck, if that is what you want.

          • bobbyalpy

            Government traitors fine…the military however is where I learned to defend the constitution on behalf of civilians who are wholly incapable of being trusted to protect it.Our military class is the only thing standing between the commie civilians who wish to alter it to suit their utopian ideas.

          • The military is part of the Department of Defense, which is part of the Executive branch of the government, which is the government which is subordinate to the Constitution, in which treason is defined. When a military member violates the Constitution AND their oath to protect and defend it, they are uber traitors.

          • bobbyalpy

            What kind of fucking American uses the kraut word uber in a sentence?You must be a millennial.

          • Hardly, just know what it really means.

          • bobbyalpy

            The Supreme Court is the final and only arbiter of law.It’s congress who funds all program’s executive or legislative.So long as congress continues to fund actions,they are essentially voting support of those actions.So long as the Supreme Court refuses to hear any challenges to war powers,they are essentially supporting executive privilege in that case.

          • The SCOTUS can hide behind their inability to hear more than 1% of the petitions for cert that come before them in each session, when the docket is reset.

          • zman

            The real question is…Did you? Ever hear of piracy, paying tribute and kidnapping? Yes, there is certainly an abysmal historical ignorance abounding.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            Try reading the Constitution.

        • bobbyalpy

          War Powers act fool.If war is not declared than the way congress can stop a president from using war powers,is not to fund the action.They did fund it and by doing so implied their consent.Case closed

      • 454 casull

        Jadan is a idiot who has no grasp of war and how it is fought ‘he probably saw SAVING PRIVATE RYAN and thought that’s how wars are fought ‘GIVE ME A BREAK .

        • Sam

          i know what you mean man 😀 I’m starting to believe most of these dudes are queers and cross-dressers. Or maybe the plastic toxins in bottled water has shriveled up their gonads? Low T?

          • 454 casull

            Could very well be.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            When you have nothing to back up your delusions just name call. You lose!

        • bbb126

          And where did you get your limited info? Pearl Harbor?

          • 454 casull

            Meaning what .never even mentioned pearl harbor .

      • James Williams

        Yes, bomber pilots that drop bombs on civilians (who lack any defensive weaponry) are cowards.

        So are drone operators that attack civilians from the safety of a bunker 300+ miles away.

        Cowards, every single one of them.

        Unless you are risking your own life, you are a coward.

      • seewillie

        Seriously? Most of the people this psycho wasted were more than likely just ordinary people. WE SHOULDN’T BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

        • bbb126

          Any white american would beg to differ. They bring new meaning to the term Entitled Behavior. Its there so if I want it, all I have to do is take it. Unfortunately, whitey never hesitates to pat itself on the back for all the havoc they cause in tge world.

          • bobbyalpy

            Fuck you twat

      • jo

        sam killing in any circumstance is not a heroic act it is a act done by ignorant, uneducated , non-spiritural humans.war is not to spread freedom or democracy it is in fact waged in all cases for natural resources,political gain,greed and psychological control of a population.it would be a great service to you and the rest of the world to educate yourself and others so that in the future you and others aren’t so easily manipulated by certain people to gain power,money and control by preying on your ignorance.sorry to sound so harsh but thats the truth GOD BLESS YOU this advise is given in love not hate.

        • brenpd

          Killing in the defense of your own life or the lives of your family or to go even broader, countrymen is not only spiritual, it’s mandated by God. The Commandment “Thou shalt not kill” has been mistranslated for millennia. It’s actual translation is “Thou shalt not murder” HUGE difference there.
          Kill is too broad a term. Thou shalt not kill what? Humans? animals? plants? Whereas the word “murder” is by definition the unlawful premeditated killing of one human by another.
          To kill is to cause the death of a human,animal or another living thing. But there’s nothing in there about it being unlawful.
          Example: A man can murder another man, but a man cannot murder a lion and a lion cannot murder a man.
          Men kill each other in wars. They have been since the beginning of time, and will probably continue for as long as there are humans on the planet. Believe it or not, the civilians killed in Iraq, Afghanistan is actually very low as compared to wars of the past.
          The average American has probably forgotten what Saddam and his regime had been doing to Iraqis before our “illegal” invasion. Mass graves with thousands buried in the desert have been found. He used nerve gas on the Kurds, and helicopter gunships on the southern Shiites after the first gulf war. Under the table deals with UN officials selling oil to make billions for himself and the rest of the Baath party members. Not to mention the rape and torture rooms he and his secret police maintained. The horror stories of the antics of his psychopathic sons, Uday and Qusay.
          He convinced the whole world’s intelligence agencies that he was again making chemical,biological and nuclear weapons including the British, the Russians, The CIA, Mossad, The Saudi’s, Egypt.

          In closing, the only thing evil needs to triumph in this world is for good men/women to do nothing. The only thing that can stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun and the willingness to use it.

          I’ve done my time in the sandbox. and unless you’ve been there, in uniform carrying a weapon, then I suggest that doing the “armchair quarterback” thing is just showing your ignorance.

          • bbb126

            No where in the bible does it justify Chris Kyles actions and I know damn well it isnt mandated by god to kill your fellow man for a cause you do not directly b enefit from or are oppressed by. No the devil os a lie
            Try again, dumb bitch. Nothing Chris Kyle did was “mandated by god”. Typical american thing to do, try to make the situation less impacting by throwing religion over it like a blanket. Nothing in the bible condones thus bullshit. Matter of fact it says eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth. By that logic Kyle DEFINITELY HAD NO BUSINESS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND CERTAINLY NO REASON OR RIGHT TO KILL ANYONE. THEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO ATTACK US.

          • brenpd

            It’s people like you that make unsubstantiated arguments and resort to name calling that causes everyone to ignore you. When you have some facts or even a cogent point of view, then by all means, I’m interested in a spirited debate with you. Until then, I will quote: “It is better to remain silent and have people think you are stupid, than to speak and remove all doubt.”

          • bbb126

            Profanity doesnt negate my point. So if you choose to be offended by words then continue on misinformed. JACK ASS bible thumpers like you CLOUD FACTS. Really? Mandated by god? Stupidity begets profanity and a well deserved tongue lashing.

          • brenpd

            Ad hominem attacks are for when you no longer have a cogent point to your argument. All it shows is your lack of maturity. One would expect this from a third grader.

      • JD

        Sam, you need major education pal !!! You defiantly show and prove the dumbing down factor is real!!!!

      • Kent Prather

        Sam, thank you for recognizing true American patriots. The negativity against US military service individuals is fueled by ignorant individuals that have no clue why they sleep soundly in their expensive homes with a 80,000 dollar car parked in the garage and pantry full of food. I would love to see how long these morons would last in an all out firefight. All I can say to these pitiful liberal cowards is bring your Depends I’m sure you’ll need them.

      • Friendly Troll

        Snipers don’t save lives. They take lives. And in case with Chris Kyle – he took lives of many innocent civilians and bragged how much he liked the killing. Yes, he is dead. Good riddance. Cowardly dog got what it deserved – got put down.

    • Man on the street

      Actually ROOF TOP SNIPER TEAM is the new way to foment revolutions. American, and British sniper teams were arrested in Syria as they were shooting randomly at people from roof tops and saying that Assad forces were do such. In Kiev, a similar teams were reported doing to creat anger and chaos.

    • S.M. Stirling

      Dude, war is not supposed to be fair. It’s coercive violence, beating someone into submission while they try to do the same to you, instilling obedience through fear.

      The ideal military operation is one in which the opponent is as helpless as sheep in a slaughter chute.

      Unfortunately it’s usually not possible to achieve this ideal, though drones come close.

      Snipers most certainly don’t; you have to get within rifle range to kill with a rifle, as I would have thought was sorta obvious. Usually less than a thousand yards, couple of thousand at maximum with a heavy-caliber weapon, a .338 or .50.

      It’s a hideously dangerous MOS, even worse than being a grunt.

      • 454 casull

        Those calling snipers cowards have no idea the courage it takes to become a skilled marksman and go into enemy territory by yourself or with a spotter .They know going in that if they are caught they will be executed on sight for there is no mercy shown to a sniper ‘I would advise JADAN to read a book called MARINE CORPS SNIPER BY CARLOS HATHCOCK and then call this man a coward .

        • James Williams

          Funny, because in WW2 snipers were called exactly that by other infantrymen.

          Are you claiming that the devil’s brigade and other elite units lacked courage?

          • 454 casull

            Nope but people have this stupid idea that shooting the enemy while hidden is unethical as if anything in war is ethical’you kill the enemy before they kill you ‘ bottom line ‘ and who gives a rats ass how it is done as long as you survive and the battle won.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            You have any idea what US Army infantry or combat Marines did with an enemy sniper if he had the bad luck to be taken alive?

          • Sam

            Well, I know that, a US sniper, would never allow himself to be taken alive. Unconscious or asleep would be the only exceptions. Even if you’re out of ammo you always save one bullet in your sidearm for yourself.
            A US Marine would probably not take a sniper alive either. He’d be capped on the spot. Or maybe death by a thousand cuts……

          • 454 casull

            What point are you trying to make ‘I already said there was no mercy shown to the sniper.

        • Libertymike

          So, joining the biggest, baddest gang equipped with multi-billion dollar weaponry and invading the land of another the people of which pose no danger or threat to you is courage?
          Cognitive dissonance on roids.

          • bbb126

            THANK YOU! COMMON FUCKING SENSE HAS FINALLY MADE AN APPEARANCE. IT ISNT WAR WHEN EVERY ASPECT OF IT IS PLANNED BY SOMEONE SITTING BEHIND A DESK. JUST BECAUSE HE FOLLOWED ORDERS WELL DOESNT MEAN HE DESERVES OUR RESPECT. NAM VETS WERE DRAFTED THEY DID NOT HAVE A FUCKING CHOICE. THIS PEICE OF SHIT CHOSE THIS PROFESSION. FUCK HIM GOOD RIDDANCE

        • freewheelinfranklin543

          I read Hathcock’s book. He was head and shoulders above scrags like kyle. Didn’t kill children or bait his kills. Hathcock didn’t lie about numerous and sundry imaginary events to sell his book either. And Hathcock was a US Maine!

          • 454 casull

            Oh yes he did ‘read it again and get to the part where he shot the kid hauling ammo to the enemy troops ‘Hathcock shoots the front tire off the bike and thinks this will scare the kid off but he grabs a ak47 and slams a clip in it so CARLOS smokes him’I would have too .

          • trob

            wow, never heard of a us maine, plus, if you had acutally read the book and not just the movie, you would have realized he did not kill a child. Even if he did, if the kid has a grenade, you wouldnt shoot him? you are the coward my friend

    • disqus_3BrONUAJno

      There are several generations of callow youth who have been indoctrinated to believe that all forms of military service are honorable and a desirable pursuit. I doubt that Eastwood’s intent was to do so. He just wanted to make a successful movie, and did. I’m surprised that the military recruiters haven’t been lurking outside the theatres like they were when Top Gun was doing as well on the screen, if they haven’t been. Until young and ignorant Americans get tired of fighting and dying to advance the goal of hegemony, we will continue to lose some of our best to such acts of deliberate treason.

    • Johnny Rambo

      Useless fucker!!!FUck your momma!!!!

      • 454 casull

        He is that in spades.

    • Stinger1

      Why dont you personally go up to a sniper and say what you just said. Then we will find out who the true coward is. Don’t talk all tough if you can’t back up your lip service libtard.

      • bbb126

        Why the fuck should he have to prove his bravery? He wasnt stupid enough to join the military.

        • Stinger1

          If you’re gonna talk tough you better be able to back it up. Sissified pansies like him and you only hide behind a safe keyboard. I will give you the same advice. Shut your pie hole unless you can back up your tough typing. But you won’t. You will insult back and hide. It’s in your yellow streaked backbone genes.

    • Eastwood is just going where the money is: mindless jingoism. It will turn and bite him, eventually.

  • musings2

    So what I am hearing is, and this is the beauty part, as Hollywood would say – Fallujah is Gaza. And we are supposed to swallow.

  • Fred

    Nothing drives the neocon chickenhawks more nuts than a combat vet who criticizes their wars.

    • disqus_3BrONUAJno

      Pointing out that they are traitors is less common, but far more annoying.

  • disqus_kmfbvvDWiZ

    After having spoken with several seals they confirmed what an army officer and NCO told me, kyle was using ‘baiting’ in order to increase his kill numbers. This is a tactic some seals used which entails putting an item on the side of the road and shooting the first person to touch it. This is highly illegal and unethical.

    • Sam

      Items such as weapons? Who gives a f**k !!

      • disqus_kmfbvvDWiZ

        Wow. So if a teenager sees a gun on the side of the street sees a gun and decides he will sell it so his family can eat a little better or bug gas for the car he deserves to did for picking it up? We were over there to fight insurgents, not kill people trying to make a few bucks. Do you knkw what happens when you kill someone in Iraq? You turn his whole family against you. So by this one killing you now have five or six guys joining the insurgency. It also doesnt qualify as combat. It doesnt take much skill to do that. And now you just got some young american soldier blown up as a secondary effect.

    • Sam

      You’re full of sh*t dude…. No Seal would EVER associate himself with a cowardly scumbag such as you.

      • disqus_kmfbvvDWiZ

        How am i a coward? Do my 24 months of combat time not count because i didnt write a book full of lies?
        Also, army SOF doesnt go out of its way to meet SEALs, we generally avoid them, but I do know a few, despite your ignorant pronouncement. I dont care if you saw a movie or read a book, that doesnt make you an expert. Wanting something to be true doesnt change what really happened.

  • I suspect Eastwood intended American Sniper to be a deliberately ambiguous film, not a Rambo-esque action flick.

    Consider this exchange between Kyle and his wife Taya, in one cut of the film, the one I viewed.

    Taya Renae Kyle: Then just tell me. Tell me why you do it. I want to understand.
    Chris Kyle: Babe, I do it for you. You know that. I do it to protect you.
    Taya Renae Kyle: No, you don’t.
    Chris Kyle: Yes, I do.
    Taya Renae Kyle: I’m here. Your family is here. Your children have no father.
    Chris Kyle: Well, I have to serve my country.
    Taya Renae Kyle: That’s fucking bullshit!

    Most Jingoist hawks missed the significance of this.

    • disqus_3BrONUAJno

      Would the film be as popular if it had been named “Government Hit Man?”

      • Sam

        Yes….

  • slobotnavich

    I can’t quite figure out all the “moral objection” to the use of snipers in warfare. Last I heard, the idea of organized warfare was to kill enemy combatants. And accurate rifle fire does just that, unlike the hundreds of thousands of tons of high-explosive and incendiary bombs we and the British dropped on helpless Japanese and German civilians in WW II, now somehow characterized as the “good war.” Accurately directed rifle fire is the most humane means of conducting warfare, inflicting the least collateral damage on non-combatants. Incidentally, I’m not exactly a pacifist, being a two-tour veteran of the Vietnam war with the 5th Special Forces Group and the 1st Inf Div. I was the only guy in the camp who knew how to mount a scope and zero a scope-sighted rifle when we got the first M40 sniper rifles in FOB2 in Kontum, so I got the assignment of mounting the scopes and zeroing the rifles. We had no 7.62 mm ball ammo available, so I just broke down some belted M60 machinegun ammo and zeroed the rifles for 300 meters. The M40 was simply a standard Remington M700 bolt action with a varmint-weight barrel. I don’t know whether they were ever carried on a SOG mission, but even with the MG ammo they were phenomenally accurate rifles.

    • disqus_3BrONUAJno

      Does it matter that most of the people that snipers target are unarmed at the time they are murdered?

      • S.M. Stirling

        That’s “some”, and actually no, it doesn’t matter crap. You’re entitled to kill the enemy armed or unarmed, coming or going awake or asleep or sitting on the john.

        The only time you’re not allowed to kill them is when they’re actively trying to surrender — and you’re under no obligation to give them a chance to do so.

        (And in point of fact, surrender at the sharp end is a risky business; about 50% of the time you get capped if you try, which has always been the case.)

        War is not a police matter. It’s not about finding people who’ve individually done something wrong and trying to arrest them. It’s about killing people because they’re on the other side.

        • disqus_3BrONUAJno

          So why can’t we shoot lying, cheating, traitorous politicians?

          • Sam

            What an IDIOT !

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Go take another Prozac…

          • brenpd

            there would be none left.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Are you saying that honest people would never be willing to be politicians?

          • brenpd

            I’m saying that the process of becoming a politician will corrupt an honest person.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            If money is the causative, a deflationary depression, such as the one we are skating along the edges will make every politician honest? Look up the lyrics for Jackson Browne’s “Lives in the Balance.” A crook is crook before they act like one.

          • brenpd

            Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

            But the lyrics to a decades old song is more empirical evidence than I can muster.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            So a couple of centuries old unattributed quote from a long-dead british lord is more relevant than a very contemporaneous lyric from a living musician?
            Salience is the issue, so here is the musician’s testimony:
            I’ve been waiting for something to happen
            For a week or a month or a year
            With the blood in the ink of the headlines
            And the sound of the crowd in my ear

            You might ask what it takes to remember
            When you know that you’ve seen it before
            Where a government lies to a people
            And a country is drifting to war

            There’s a shadow on the faces
            Of the men who send the guns
            To the wars that are fought in places
            Where their business interests run

            On the radio talk shows and TV
            You hear one thing again and again
            How the USA stands for freedom
            And we come to the aid of a friend
            But who are the ones that we call our friends?
            These governments killing their own?
            Or the people who finally can’t take anymore
            And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone

            And there are lives in the balance
            There are people under fire
            There are children at the cannons
            And there is blood on the wire

            There’s a shadow on the faces
            Of the men who fan the flames
            Of the wars that are fought in places
            Where we can’t even say the names

            They sell us the president the same way
            They sell us our clothes and our cars
            They sell us everything from youth to religion
            The same time they sell us our wars

            I want to know who the men in the shadows are
            I want to hear somebody asking them why
            They can’t be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
            But they’re never the ones to fight or to die

            And there are lives in the balance
            There are people under fire
            There are children at the cannons
            And there is blood on the wire

          • brenpd

            So you’re for non-intervention regardless of the circumstance without an official declaration of war? But as long as there’s a Declaration of War it’s ok?

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Nope, I’m non-interventionist, period. If they don’t attack us, we’ve no legitimate reason to attack them. I agree totally with the positions of Washington and Jefferson, TRUE free trade with all and entangling alliances with none.

          • brenpd

            Jefferson went after the Barbary Coast Pirates in 1801 without a declaration of war from Congress.

            So you’re saying that the rest of the world can go to hell because the only superpower on the planet shouldn’t intervene anywhere, ever?

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            The only remaining superpower has been taking the majority of the rest of the world to a hell of our own creation for decades. If the Barbary Coast countries can’t provide their own security, and our shipping companies won’t, then we should take the threats in stride if we want to do business there. Do you think we should invade and occupy every country that American tourists frequent on the same specious premise that Jefferson used?

          • brenpd

            They were capturing ships registered in the USA as well as American Citizens in international waters and demanding ransom and tribute. Therefore Congress and Jefferson were justified in going there and kicking some Barbary ass.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            I guess the crews on board those ships couldn’t be counted on to exercise their own rights to keep and bear arms in defence of their own lives and property, as maritime law has always allowed for?

          • brenpd

            When a lightly armed or unarmed merchant ship is attacked by a heavily armed warship, you have two choices… surrender or die.
            Just look at what’s been happening in the Gulf of Aiden near the horn of Africa. Somalis armed with RPGs and machine guns riding in small, fast boats have taken ships 100 times larger as well as the crews.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            I suspect that the American colonists who supported independence from Britain heard similar things about their chances against the King’s navy.
            Most merchant ships are totally unarmed. Those who go into a blast engine without any FR deserve what they get.

          • brenpd

            That’s why they sent Ben Franklin to Paris to get France and her Navy into the war.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Then why did Lafayette come over here?

          • brenpd

            He came on his own. We needed the backing of the French king.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            We must be talking about different Lafayettes.

          • brenpd

            He was in America from 1777-1779, returned to France on Feb 1779, and returned to America in April 1780 and remained there until after the end of the war in Oct. 1781

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            It is very confusing when you refer to here as there.

          • brenpd

            He believed in what was happening in America and went to fight for the cause.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            He was already here when it started.

      • slobotnavich

        If the targets are legitimately identified enemy combatants I don’t care if they’re armed, taking a leak, planting a mine, or lighting a cigar. They’re a legitimate target and fair game. Just what do you think war is all about? Reasoned negotiation? War is what results when reasoned negotiation finally breaks down altogether and the killing starts.

        • disqus_3BrONUAJno

          War which is not declared by Congress is treason, by definition.
          You should read and understand what you intent to rebut before you do.

          • slobotnavich

            Well, every war we’re been in since WW II has had no formal declaration of war. Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, the current squabble in Afghanistan, the so-called War on Terror, the French and Indian War, all the Indian wars of the 19th Century, etc…………If you’d ever been in a war yourself, whether undeclared or fully declared, I doubt that you’d obsess over the distinction.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            I’d probably spend the “war” like Michael New did, after he refused to don a UN uniform. Until and unless Americans refuse to call treason committed by a domestic enemy, we will have to continue to ignorantly call them wars. Our involvement in the Vietnam treason was my sole reason for declining a scholarship to the Air Force Academy, my father’s final attempt to interest me in a military career.

          • Sam

            What a p*s*y….

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Better a patriot than a treasonous p*s*y.

          • Sam

            I hope your father disowned you for that poor decision. It had to have destroyed him….

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            No, but he did abandon my mother and I before honoring his promise to me of four years of tuition. He then married a woman whose taste in lifestyle required him to work until two weeks before he died, at 81, to support his never ending quest for apparent parity with the upper middle class. I discovered, 15 years after he’d left, that he was working three blocks from where I was, and surprised him at work. I subsequently went on to become a successful truck driver, after staying with him for the two months after graduating truck driving school that it took for an older (35) rookie driver to get a job. Now, 25 years later, I’m glad I didn’t sacrifice my life to the illusion of a righteous government pursuing world hegemony.

          • Sam

            Sorry for your pain but am glad you at least got a chance to reunite with your father. Hope you both were able to make amends for the past.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            He got born again, and I didn’t bother wasting the time and effort to revisit what he couldn’t correct, anyway.

          • bbb126

            Then he wasn’t shit to start with. You condemn people for not praising chris kyle or the military when you work at fucking krogers. Will that be paper or plastic? If u actually had any military service under your belt or are a member you wouldnt be on here defending yourself. Stfu already. Not everybody follows political agenda blindly just for a false sense of glory and heroism. You sir are a fucking twat and its too bad you can join chris kyle and lick his coin purse in the after life as well. The man was a sick ass psycho and he deserved to die.

          • bbb126

            Better than being a fucking idiot. Twat

          • Sam

            I served two tours over there…. Iraq and Afghanistan…
            All you cowardly pacifists should give thanks to those of us who served but you’re all too ignorant to understand what it means to be willing to give your life for your country!

            You sir, would certainly be ‘friendly fire’ …

          • bobbyalpy

            Well said…the number of men on here who need to have sand excavated from their vaginas is terrifying.

          • freewheelinfranklin543

            So the oath means nothing?

          • slobotnavich

            Umm, what oath is that?

          • slobotnavich

            Just what oath are you referring to?

          • slobotnavich

            Just what oath are you referring to? If you mean the presidential oath of office, it clearly means nothing to the current occupant of the White House.

          • brenpd

            90% of the laws passed by congress and signed by a president are unconstitutional. Perhaps you should read and understand Article 1 Section 8 which enumerates what the federal government can actually spend money on.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Treason isn’t about what the government is allowed to spend money on. It is about the unlawful actions of persons in positions of trust who have demonstrated that they aren’t trustworthy.

          • brenpd

            That’s my whole point. The laws they enact and enforce are unlawful actions under the Constitution. You say that the Iraq war was unlawful. But congress passed a resolution: Authorization of the use of force against Iraq 2002. So congress actually passed a law 297-133 in the House, 77-23 in the Senate. before G.W. Bush signed it into law.
            Under the Constitution, Congress is the sole authority that can declare war. Perhaps they did in this instance and just used different terminology? What’s the difference between a Declaration of War and Authorization of the Use of Force Against Iraq? Semantics?

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Americans frequently confuse lawful with legal.
            A declaration of war is a declaration of war, using those exact words.
            Authorizing the use of force was the purpose of the war powers act, whichallows the president to dedicate military forces to a defensive purpose for 90 days without any input from Congress. We haven’t engaged in any military action that could reasonably be considered defensive since the war of 1812.
            Congressional resolutions have the same force of law as presidential executive orders, basically zero. Neither have any authority beyond the formal memos that they constitute. When there aren’t any trustworthy persons involved in government, government becomes tyrannical.

          • brenpd

            http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ243/html/PLAW-107publ243.htm

            This was the resolution in congress that was signed by G.W. Bush on 2002. It appears lawful to me. The War Powers act is a different matter entirely.

            You don’t consider WWII to be a defensive war considering the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and actually invaded the Aleutian Islands of Attu and Kiska?

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            You appear not to understand what makes a resolution legal and not lawful.
            Aside from the fact that the attack on Pearl Harbor was well enough expected to have been discussed on the front page of the Honolulu newspaper, it has been well documented as being a response to our president’s threat to starve the Japanese if they didn’t attack us, to justify a declaration of war. This in several books and articles that will never be found in a public fool system classroom.
            We committed war against Japan long before they attacked us, in the same way that we committed war against Cuba 50 years ago, by blockading them, which is considered an act of war in international law.

          • brenpd

            As I understand it, the blockade was for specific vessels transporting nuclear-tipped missiles from the Soviet Union to Cuba. I wasn’t aware that it was a total blockade.

            Regarding FDR, I don’t know which is more relevant, The fact that his New Deal policies were prolonging the depression and he used the war to pull us out of it, or that he disliked the Japanese and just wanted an excuse to declare war on them. Either way, by withholding vital information he’s responsible for every death at Pearl Harbor. So how is that different to what Obama is doing now with Russia and Iran? He’s using sanctions in an effort to stop (Russia) or prevent (Iran) aggression.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            FDR was looking for an saleable justification to get us into a war so he could justify the military buildup to plump up his war profits, and the war didn’t pull anyone but the military-industrial complex out of the depression. Obama has less to do with what “he” is doing in the Ukraine than the PNAC criminals, who are behind the Pentagon’s winnable first strike agenda. Their hope is to provoke a military response from Russia, which Putin is way too smart to make. Since Russia, China, and Iran are committed to a mutual-protection agreement, if we attack any of them, they’ll all respond in kind. Iran is the only non-nuclear of the three, and they have demonstrated to the satisfaction of everyone besides our warhawks that their interest in nuclear matters is power-only. Crimea returned to Russia through a vast majority vote, recognizing that their security is tied to Russia’s, not Ukraine’s. Since Russia and China (not to mention others) have had submarines on patrol or station off our coast for as long as they have had them, with our coastal cities targeted, if the PNACers are stupid enough to rattle our nuclear sabres, our largest cities could be gone before our missiles could reach theirs.

          • brenpd

            Beijing, Moscow and Tehran would be clouds of radioactive dust as well…. It’s called Mutually Assured Destruction. Putin didn’t take into account the nosedive the price of oil futures made and now he’s worried.

            The bottom line is we’ve been too soft with Russia… First it was Georgia, then it was Crimea, now it’s Eastern Ukraine. He’s actually invaded a sovereign country and we’re sitting on our hands. Who’s next? Latvia, Lithuania? China is doing the same making territorial claims on Japanese islands and in the South China Sea.
            Russia and China are pragmatic. If Iran was attacked, they would only back them up if they felt it was in their best interests.
            If Iran were to build nukes, they would most likely fire on Israel. Then all bets are off. Iran would cease to exist.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            Mutually Assured Destruction was abandoned by the Pentagon after the failure of the USSR, and replaced with a policy that assumes that we could attack them first while preventing serious retaliation.
            Since Israel refuses to admit their nuclear arsenal exists, they obviously don;t want anyone to use MAD against them.
            With the extensive monitoring that is carried out by all of the nuclear powers, we’d be best off to not attack anyone unless in retaliation, because everyone would know where it came from, if delivered from the air.
            I never cease to be amazed how many Americans are totally ignorant about the fact that less than 1% of the shipping containers that are offloaded from ships in our ports receive anything more than an manifest examination. The other 99% could easily contain pre-programmed or remote-controlled nuclear warheads, which could be crated and marked as household appliances, delivered to and secreted on the top floors of our tallest skyscrapers. No missile required.

        • freewheelinfranklin543

          It wasn’t a legitimate legal Constitutional war.Nor was it a legal war under international law.

    • 454 casull

      Yup the m40a1 was a ridiculously accurate rifle and is still standard issue for snipers .

  • azlibrabbit

    My stomach is turned every time I hear someone mention this movie, because I know I am about to hear more hero worship of a man who made his living killing people who had done nothing to deserve it.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall at Kyle’s meeting with his Maker.

  • Man on the street

    You came home to find that somebody has burned your house to the ground, when you asked the neighbors, they said that there were a bunch of blond teenagers attempting to brake the doors. You go and get some guns, and a bunch of your friends, and proceed to kill and beat all the black neighbors. Since you have a powerful friends no one can stop your slaughters. But, years after the dust settles, and rational people reflect on that outburst, no one says you owe these black families an apology and compensations for wrongfully slaughtering their families. Instead, they make a movie about one of your friends who single handily killed a whole bunch of innocent black people. This is what our criminal invasion of Iraq (instead of bombing Saudi Arabia, the country where the 9/11 terrorists came from) resembles, and our ignorant sheeple fail to understand.

    • disqus_3BrONUAJno

      Justice wouldn’t have been better served if we’d done the same stupid things in Saudi Arabia.
      Our efforts should have been directed towards determining which members of the Bush administration were involved, and insuring their subsequent impeachment (where appropriate), indictment, prosecution, conviction, and public execution. Several of them are dodging indictments for war crimes and crimes against humanity in The Hague, where we should make every effort to deliver them. This will never happen as long as we lionize and deify our political criminals instead of seeing that justice is done.

      • Sam

        You’re right… I say we should turn the whole Middle East into a piece of glass and eliminate these hybrid beings from the face of the Earth.

        • disqus_3BrONUAJno

          There being damn few purebreds around, most of us are hybrids now.

          • Sam

            No. There is CLEARLY some piece of DNA either missing or altered in the degenerated inhabitants of this region. Their behavior, actions and savage traits defy logic. The Israelites seem to be the only people left there with untainted DNA.

          • disqus_3BrONUAJno

            So far, they have the sense to understand why they shouldn’t use their nuclear arsenal to turn the middle east into glass.
            Would you be so kind as to share your academic papers with us, supporting your premise of missing or altered DNA?

  • S.M. Stirling

    I’m amused at the people who continually express shock that in “this bad war” (presumably as opposed to “that good war”) we killed civilians and conducted reconnaissance by fire and similar “atrocities”.

    Dudes, in the month before D-Day, we killed 30,000 French civilians during our attacks on the transportation net. That’s about 1000 a day when the B-25’s came calling, just in one operation.

    Oh, that reconnaissance by fire thing?

    I first heard the term from a WWII vet who used it to describe how his unit determined if there were Germans in various French and Belgian farmhouses. When I asked what it meant, he specified getting his M8 in a nice hull-down position and pumping half a belt of .50 through the house. If there were Krauts inside, they’d shoot back or move because if they didn’t they’d be killed when the house caught fire and collapsed. I asked what happened if it was just farmers and their families inside.

    He laughed and said: “Oh, then they just died. Better them than us, junior.”

    We also shot prisoners all the time (I’ve talked to guys who did it) and as for field interrogations… well, as one of them put it to me, “We used to say that Geneva was far away, and my .45 was right up the Kraut’s nose.”

    As to screwups, usually between 5% and 15% of our casualties were friendly-fire; that actually has improved a lot, though it still happens.

    So much for the Good War, which was actually just the “effectively censored war”.

    It’s always like that.

    • freewheelinfranklin543

      And some people could never figure out why the French don’t like us. Go figure.

    • 454 casull

      All wars are and it will remain that way till there are no more ‘if the human race can become that civilized.

  • Lorin Chane Partain

    saw Unbroken instead. Zamporini was a real war hero.

  • TRUTH

    War is a Racket by Smedley Butler
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0

    United States marine LT.Col. (Ret.) Field McConnell on the cause(s) of 9/11/01
    http://www.abeldanger.net/2010/01/field-mcconnell-bio.html

    Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot (BUAP)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422503916&x-yt-cl=85027636&v=B5C1aYniIFA

  • USMC SNIPER

    Iraqis Weigh In on ‘American Sniper’ – and Their Views Will Shock You
    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/iraqis-weigh-american-sniper-and-their-views-will-shock-you#gKaAV7:QoE

  • ThePowersThatBe

    you know.. why don’t ya’ll take your complaints to nazi, drug kingpin, ghwbush and the other 1%’ters
    Do your homework before ya’ll crap on the Seals, and other Snipers.. Wars are started for profit .. who ends up benefitting from said conflicts ? The top 1%.. The opium trade’s been dominated by the Brits for many, many years…
    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/after-killing-more-than-1600-people-this-drone-operator-called-it-quits_012015

    http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/201311/drone-uav-pilot-assassination?currentPage=1

  • disqus_kmfbvvDWiZ

    What a well thought out response. Way to go. I spent the same amount of time as Kyle fighting in Iraq so Im a coward how? No I dont to out of my way to find seals to hang out with, but I do know a few, the special ops community is a small place. There were plenty of heros to come out of iraq who are much more deserving of your blind admiration, but if you only relegate that to folks who write books about themselves you are going to be dissapointed.

  • Angie Miranda

    How can u call cris kyle a coward if he protected our troops and fought for his country… Let me see u do his job and save ppl not only did he kill but he saved many lives.. B4 u talk trash on him go do his job and b as good as he was.

    • bbb126

      Stfu. Before you defend him understand why we were at war in the first place
      He got what he deserved.

  • bobbyalpy

    Snipers are the backbone of a good counter insurgency,just like Infantrymen are the backbone of armies.You can bleed all you like,but that is how wars are fought.

    • bbb126

      Snipers are lame and LARGELY unnecessary.

  • bandoogie

    I’m just sitting here wondering what the huge amount of success for this film says about American society?

  • Daniel

    If it were up to the Muslim extremist (terrorist) there would be complete genocide of anyone who does not support the Muslim faith according to the Quran. During the battle of Fallujah the civilians were given the opportunity to leave the city. The civilians that chose not to leave were not targeted for no reason, and were avoided at all cost, even the life’s of many Marines. Your article is full of false accusations. Furthermore you do not deserve to be called an American citizen. Also, stay off of our land if you do not support our troops.

  • The film is definitely flawed but children throwing grenades at US troops is not an inaccurate depiction. My platoon was attacked several times by children under the age of ten who threw grenades at our Strykers. One of those grenades severely wounded four US service members in Dora, a neighborhood in Baghdad. Just as the movie painted a false narrative related to our involvement in Iraq, Caputi is taking things too far in the other direction.

  • Ricky Recon

    4 those of Us who know War know this is Madness in this World Aye Aye Semper Fi

  • Commander Charles Stilwell

    Well Jadan and the others bashing Chris Kyle and not very informed by the experience of war in my opinion. After what was done on 9 11 war was unleashed. The discussion was pointed to one mother and one child. and nothing about the approximately 3000 in New York. I wonder if the discussion would be different if you family member was in the twin towers? 10 years. we Put the Nazis in place and the Japanese in 4 years. I remember those solders and a lot of funerals. If anyone got in the way they were killed. You will never win a war in stupidity. God told Israel in the old testament they were to kill all men women and children in a particular place, but they didn’t and this is why we are in the middle east trying to finish a war that GOD ordered.Get a Bible and Read it lets see what you find out. ” COWARDLY ” You didn’t even Know CHRIS KYLE. You sound like one of these Preachers preaching on sin and not preaching power we have by not sinning. Have you seen Chris’s wife, do you know why Chris Left the military? HE WAS A MARINE. AND ALWAYS A marine. If you have a problem with that you must have missed a lot of your training.You were in IRAQ? COME ON MAN.

    • bbb126

      Your redneck is showing.

  • Commander Charles Stilwell

    could i DEPEND ON ONE OF MY BUDDY’S IN A NEIGHBORHOOD BRAWL? JUST ON MORE THING. PEARL HARBOR. aS THE OLD SAYING GOES WAR IS HELL.YOU GUYS KNOW ANY OF THESE? THESE ARE THE TOES YOU ARE STEPPING ON. yES THERE ARE SOME OF US WHO PRAY.

  • John Doe

    You are one big piece of shit, and that’s saying too much about you, why don’t you and Berghdal run off and get married. Good luck and happy honeymoon. This country is too good to have traitors like you in it. You and Isis and anyone that thinks like you are a cancer to our society.

  • MR>X

    So when i was younger and the internet was just really starting to take off i was extremely excited. WOW so the whole world can communicate and exchange intelligent thoughts???? Now Look at all the @@@@ that is everywhere. No one is totally right but there are plenty that are very wrong.

  • Jason

    This is why I try to stay outside of politics, so I don’t have to pick sides, and live my life. What the soldiers and politicians do is none of my business, as long as it doesn’t effect me directly (most of the time, it doesn’t).

  • YellowYam

    Honestly, I celebrate Chris Kyle’s death moreso than Osama Bin Laden’s. At least Bin Laden wasn’t a psycho.

  • John X

    My constitutional rights were not given to me by Kris Kyle or anyone else alive today. They were already here. They were not fighting for my constitutional rights, they were fighting for the politicians in Washington, DC. Being an American has nothing to do with fighting unjust wars. They lied to us.

  • sixguinness

    Stopped reading the comments on this one. Too convoluted, off point, argumentative, baseless, and subjective.

  • Serge Krieger

    America and huge part of American population are dangerous psychopaths.

  • Anonymous

    This is a social network for world’s shipping community: https://www.shippingcluster.com/

  • ex-marine3321

    I’m just reading this leftist rag I should wipe my ass with. Let me tell you pussies something. Get out there on a fuckin rooftop and get that rifle up against your eye and then try to second guess this guys actions. you make me sick, this country makes me sick. try to make a decision not to shoot in a split second with someone running up on you or your friends. Thats what wrong with you turds. plenty of time to sit at home preaching non-violence and communism or wealth redistribution or the fact that this country lies in the bottom of a toilet. Its a WAR get it… Ill stick you in that guys situation and you’ll drop that weapon and allow your fellow marines to get blown away. Before you can criticize a soldier try being one. I have more bad news for you too. We are going to have a goddamn civil war in this country soon that none of us may survive. time has turned life into a living hell that we must face in the future. Death, Destruction, poisoning this planet with burning fossil fuels. Ever see Road warrior, what a bleak ass future is in store for us I can’t even speculate. myself included along with this entire fucking planet well be lucky to see another human once the fuse is lit. Do I sound apocalyptic? pray you have a weapon. Then when the shit hits the fan you pick your side and good luck to ya. We are all going to get consumed in a bloodbath beyond all imagination. lucky to even wake up the next day. Get used to marshall law and some latino right wing dictator ready to snap on this pile of shit we all created voting for the worst excuse for a president this world has ever witnessed. I’ve said enough. this world belongs to satan and good luck yanking it from his evil grip.

    • ex-marine3321

      at the end of the day kyle got killed from his own stupidity trying to help some lunatic get his head straight. guess he got what he deserved you all say. Just more death and blood piled on top of this travesty like a cherry on an ice cream sunday. insanity and chaos and a bunch of predictors with all the answers. More great advice from me. Open a school that trains you how to duck from live fire coming your way. BEST business opportunity in the forbes 500. get out your sex pistols album and listen to your copy of their first release…great lyrics in God Save the queen, it ends with “no future for you, screamed by a psychopath who will end up predicting the fate of this god forsaken nightmare existance we call life. play it over and over till they cut off your power. then you can break it and find a corner of your bedroom to lay down and commit suicide to escape the sheer shock of being cornered like a rat in a maze. I pray for us all. you, me your families, my dad, my sister, your relatives. only christ can save us now

  • Don

    War is the health of the state. If you don’t like big government than perpetual war is a living nightmare.

  • mcdougal2013

    I am currently serving and I have been saved multiple times by a sniper. I didn’t ask to go to iraq or iran I done it because it my job to lay down my life to protect our freedoms. I obey my orders amd in doing so I must take a life but if we didn’t they would show no mercy on us on our soil so is it necessary yes to ensure our way of life. Chris Kyle was a hero he brought many men and women home to their families i thank everyone one of the snipers who saved me because they are the reason I am alive. You can bitch and moan all you want about our government but leave the armed forces out of it until u have walked a mile in our shoes don’t bitch about what we do because we are the reason you can’t post what you want on here we are the reason you can do just about anything you want so next time you start to bitch leave the armed forces out of it

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  • keithmoon22

    I admire every soldier out there. Don’t care what kind of person they are. They keep us safe. They don’t have be my friend! But they have earned my respect and thanks.