How U.S. Torture Led to the Rise of ISIS

Nice Job Creating Terrorists, You Morons …

We’ve previously noted that many members of ISIS were members of Saddam Hussein’s secular Baath Party who converted to radical Islam in American prisons.

And we’ve documented that torture creates more terrorists.   Indeed, Salon notes:

Among the most notable victims of torture was Sayeed Qutb, the founding father of modern political jihadism. His 1964 book, “Milestones,” describes a journey towards radicalization that included rape and torture, sometimes with dogs, in an Egyptian prison. He left jail burning with the determination to wage transnational jihad to destroy these regimes and their backers, calling for war against all those who used these methods against Muslims


“Milestones” remains one of the Arab world’s most influential books. Indeed, it was the lodestar of Al Qaeda leaders like Ayman Al-Zawahiri (who was also tortured in Egyptian jails) and the late Osama Bin Laden.

In other words, it was torture which drove the founder of modern jihad to terrorism in the first place.

ISIS … Created By Torture

The head of ISIS (al-Baghdadi) spent 4 years as a prisoner at the U.S. Bucca Camp in Iraq.  As the Washington Post reports:

But the narrative solidifies in 2005, when [al-Baghdadi] was captured by American forces and spent the next four years a prisoner in the Bucca Camp in southern Iraq. It was from his time there that the first known picture of Baghdadi emerged.

Kathy Kelly wrote in September:

In January of 2004 I visited “Bucca Camp,” a U.S.-run POW camp … located near the isolated port city of Umm Qasr,  in southern Iraq ….


These men at Bucca had been marched naked in front of women soldiers.  They’d been told to say “I love George Bush” before they could receive their food rations.  They’d slept on the open ground in punishingly cold weather with no mat beneath them and only one blanket.   The guards had taunted them and they had had no way of telling their friends they were still alive.


It’s widely acknowledged that the 2003 invasion of Iraq radicalized Al-Baghdadi, with his humiliation at Camp Bucca further hardening him.

Mother Jones noted in July:

According to the Telegraph, members of his local mosque in Tobchi (a neighborhood in Baghdad) who knew him from around 1989 until 2004 (when he was between the ages of 18 and 33) considered Baghdadi a quiet, studious fellow and a talented soccer player. When the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, Baghdadi was earning a degree in Islamic studies in Baghdad.

But within a couple years of the US invasion, Baghdadi was a prisoner in Camp Bucca, the US-run detainment facility in Umm Qasr, Iraq. And a US compound commander stationed at that prison—and other military officials—have in recent weeks wondered whether Baghdadi’s stint there radicalized him and put him on the path to taking over ISIS in 2010 and guiding the movement to its recent military victories.


The reason why he was apprehended is not publicly known; he could have been arrested on a specific charge or as part of a large sweep of insurgents or insurgent supporters. (A confidential Red Cross report leaked in May 2004 suggested than around 90 percent of detainees of Iraqi origin were arrestedby mistake.”) Army Colonel Kenneth King, the commanding US officer at Camp Bucca in 2009, recently told the Daily Beast that he distinctly remembered a man resembling Baghdadi: “He was a bad dude, but he wasn’t the worst of the worst.” King noted he was “not surprised” that such a radical figure emerged from the facility.


James Skylar Gerrond, a former US Air Force security forces officer and a compound commander at Camp Bucca in 2006 and 2007, says that he believes Baghdadi’s stay at the prison contributed to his radicalization—or at least bolstered his extremism. After Baghdadi proclaimed the Islamic State a new nation and himself its leader, Gerrond tweeted, “Many of us at Camp Bucca were concerned that instead of just holding detainees, we had created a pressure cooker for extremism.” Gerrond is now a civilian working for the Department of Defense.

The Guardian reported in 2009

Critics of the facility say it had in effect become a terror training institute, run by resentful inmates under a strict interpretation of Islamic law.”It is al-Qa’ida central down there,” said Sheikh Ali Hatem Suleiman, a tribal leader from Anbar province. “What better way to teach everyone how to become fanatical than put them all together for scant reason, then deprive them?

Indeed, many of the top ISIS commanders – including Abu Ayman al-Iraqi and Abu Abdulrahman al-Bilawi – were high-level Iraqi officers under Saddam Hussein who were imprisoned at Camp Bucca by American forces.

There was unquestionably widespread torture at Camp Bucca …

Allen Keller M.D. – Assistant Professor of Medicine at the NYU School of Medicine, attending Physician in the Bellevue Hospital Primary Care Medical Clinic, and a recognized expert on torture – documents in the journal Perspectives in Biology and Medicine various forms of torture at Camp Bucca … including surgeries without anaesthetic, rape and various types of beatings (search for the word “Bucca”).

The Red Cross and 60 Minutes reported that prisoners were shot at Camp Bucca.

The Seattle Times reported in 2004:

A U.S. resident who was held prisoner by the United States in another detention center in Iraq last year says prisoners there were also beaten and sexually humiliated.

Hossam Shaltout said widespread mistreatment by soldiers in Camp Bucca detention center in southern Iraq was as inhumane as that depicted in recent photos from Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

He described Camp Bucca as a “torture camp,” where soldiers beat and humiliated prisoners. He said he saw soldiers tie groups of naked prisoners together. He said they hogtied his hands and legs and placed scorpions on his body.

American soldiers love scorpions,” Shaltout said in an interview arranged by his U.S. lawyer.

The Washington Post reported in 2004:

On May 12, four soldiers from the 320th Military Police Battalion, based in Ashley, Pa., were charged with beating prisoners after transporting them to Camp Bucca. MPs from a different unit reported the incident, saying the legs of prisoners were held apart while soldiers kicked them in the groin.

The rise of ISIS confirms what we’ve been saying for years … torture reduces our national security:

  • A 30-year veteran of CIA’s operations directorate who rose to the most senior managerial ranks, says:

Torture creates more terrorists and fosters more acts of terror than it could possibly neutralize.

Torture puts our troops in danger, torture makes our troops less safe, torture creates terrorists. It’s used so widely as a propaganda tool now in Afghanistan. All too often, detainees have pamphlets on them, depicting what happened at Guantanamo.

“The administration’s policies concerning [torture] and the resulting controversies … strengthened the hand of our enemies.”

  • General Petraeus said that torture hurts our national security
  • The head of all U.S. intelligence said:

“The bottom line is these techniques have hurt our image around the world,” [Director of National Intelligence Dennis] Blair said in the statement. “The damage they have done to our interests far outweighed whatever benefit they gave us and they are not essential to our national security.”

  • A top counter-terrorism expert says torture increases the risk of terrorism (and see this)
  • One of the top military interrogators said that torture by Americans of innocent Iraqis is the main reason that foreign fighters started fighting against Americans in Iraq in the first place (and see this).
  • Former counter-terrorism czar Richard A. Clarke says that America’s indefinite detention without trial and abuse of prisoners is a leading Al Qaeda recruiting tool
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  • Bob

    An empire needs outside enemies to unite its people. What better way to create them ?

    • Monster from the Id

      Hammer. Nail. Bang!

      Creating enemies insures more money for the “defense” industry and more power, income, and perks for “defense” bureaucrats, in and out of uniform.

      “Blowback” isn’t a bug; it’s a feature.

      As General Butler said, war is a racket.

      • majorx

        What money? We owe $18 trillion dollars and when the imbalance goes out of control you morons will finally figure out what the world is really about.

  • gerry d welder

    Or maybe this is the reason?

    Obama Asks For $500 Million To Equip Syrian Rebels As The ISIS … news/ 2014-06-26/ obama-asks-500-million-equip-syrian-rebels-isis-juggernaut-iraq-sprea ds

    … but just for the ‘moderate’ ISIS (so called ‘rebels’)

    Obama Releases 5 Of The Most Dangerous Taliban Commanders …
    …Not a word about any of these guys since?

    ISIS in Iraq stinks of CIA/NATO ‘dirty war’ op — RT Op-Edge –

    “Very revealing is the fact that almost two weeks after the dramatic fall of Mosul and the ‘capture’ by ISIS forces of the huge weapons and military vehicle resources provided by the US to the Iraqi army. Washington has done virtually nothing but make a few silly speeches about their ‘concern’ …”

    Did Obama purposely leave behind all those attack helicopters, tanks, military equipment and weapons when he pulled our troops out of Iraq?

    Still Report #281 – Is Obama a Sunni?

    ISIS in Iraq stinks of CIA/NATO ‘dirty war’ op — RT Op-Edge –

    “Very revealing is the fact that almost two weeks after the dramatic fall of Mosul and the ‘capture’ by ISIS forces of the huge weapons and military vehicle resources provided by the US to the Iraqi army. Washington has done virtually nothing but make a few silly speeches about their ‘concern’ …”

    LYONS: The Islamic cloud over Brennan and Hagel

    National security may not be a first priority

    By Adm. James A. Lyons, February 19, 2013

    (Admiral James Aloysius “Ace” Lyons, officer of the U.S. Navy for thirty-six years, Commander in Chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, the largest single military command in the world.)

    Read more:

    “…I am one of them.”

    youtube: Obama Admits He Is A Muslim

    God help our soldiers.

    MM79 – Truth About ISIS Tanks

    …get it yet?

    Muslim Brotherhood infiltrates top Gov. positions

    December 5, 2011 by Victoria Jackson

    Excerpt: Documents found at a 2004 raid in Virginia included a Muslim Brotherhood mission statement that says, “The process of settlement” is a “Civilization-Jihadist Process”…(our) work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s (Allah’s) religion is made victorious over all other religions.”

    • gerry d welder

      Hey, America, guess who else Obama is dumping onto your state … 2014/ 12/ 02/ hey-america-guess-who-else-obama-is-dumping-onto-your-state-welfare-t roughs-thousands-of-refugees-muslim-refugees-some-with-terrorist-ties /
      Dec 2, 2014 … Thousands of refugees, MUSLIM REFUGEES, some with terrorist ties. Instead of importing desperate, terrified, persecuted Christians …..
      get it ……yet?
      Americans will wake up soon, one way or another (but it’s getting very late).

      This video is 5 years old, the percentages have since increased everywhere, can you recognize the trend happening in the USA?


      • gerry d welder

        From comments section:

        “Here is an article written by Pamela Geller I read just a few weeks ago exclusively discussing how “Common Core” is being pushed by the Muslim Brotherhood in the public schools across the nation. For example, there was major protests among parents in a small county in Florida about Islamic teachings in World History pertaining to “Common Core.” Geller has also did a great job of pointing out about other similar incidences occurring across the country. This is all linked to the indoctrination of Islam to our children and youth which is a very serious problem the nation’s educational system. This is a very dangerous trend that has been going on for decades from our elementary schools all the way up to our Universities. See article below.

        “I have been fielding calls from distraught parents all week, reeling from the proselytizing for Islam in their children’s “social studies” or “world history” classes. They are not teaching the children “world history,” which would include Islam’s 1,400-year history of jihadi wars, land appropriations, cultural annihilations and enslavements, not to mention the extermination of the entire Jewish Banu Qurayza tribe of Arabia.

        Instead, children are forced to recite the Shahada. (It’s an Islamic creed one says to convert to Islam.) Instead, they are forced to learn the five pillars of Islam.”

        • gerry d welder

          With newly re-elected Speaker of the House John Boehner presiding AND BOWING HIS HEAD, the Imam for the Islamic Center of Central Jersey praised Islam’s Allah from the House floor as the God who reigns supreme.

          Muslim ALLAH Worshipped and Praised SUPREME on U.S. House …

 2014/ 11/ 14/ muslim-allah-worshipped-praised-supreme-u-s-house-floor-shocking-vide o-must-watch/

          • gerry d welder

            In 1952
            President Truman
            Established one day a year as a
            “National Day of Prayer.”

            In 1988
            President Reagan
            Designated the
            First Thursday in May of the year as ‘The National Day of Prayer’.

            In June 2007
            Presidential Candidate Barack Obama
            Declared that the USA
            “Was no longer a
            Christian nation.”

            President Obama
            Canceled the
            21st annual National Day
            Of Prayer ceremony
            At the White
            House under the ruse
            Of “not wanting to offend anyone”

            BUT… On September 25, 2009
            From 4 AM until 7 PM,
            A National Day of Prayer
            Was Held on Capitol Hill,
            Beside the White House.
            There were over 50,000 Muslims
            In D.C. That day.

            I guess it Doesn’t matter
            If Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, etc., etc.,
            Are offended by this event –
            We obviously
            Don ‘t count as
            “anyone” Anymore.

            The direction this country is headed
            Should strike fear in the heart of everyone,
            Especially knowing that Islamists
            Believe that if ‘any’ other belief (including non-radicalized Muslims) cannot be Converted,
            They should be annihilated.

          • gerry d welder

            Connect the dots and remember Obama has been lying about everything.

            What do we know at this point:

            -The Islamization of American schools, Google it (too much to list here)

            -The FBI dropping Islam from it’s list of terrorists while expanding ‘domestic’ definitions. Your probably on the list.

            -NASA tax funded Muslim outreach mandate.

            -US taxes rebuilding and renovating mosques AROUND THE WORLD (much of that money has been re-routed back to America? (mosque building in the USA has gone up surpassing 70% since Obama took office, wow – coincidence?

            -International effort to make criticism of Islam illegal in the USA, supported by Obama and, yep – Hillary Clinton. Google it.

            -CIA Director John Brennan alleged to have converted to Islam

            -Ex Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel alleged to have converted to Islam. What’s his replacements belief? And not a WORD about those 11 (that’s ELEVEN!) ‘missing’ jumbo jets?

            -7 BILLION US tax dollar project to build a NEW power grid for (Muslim) Africa while the US power grid deteriorates and is vulnerable to EMP attacks.-Funding, equipping and advanced tactical support from USA highest federal agencies for the expansion of ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood around the world and soon (now) on our streets here in the USA.

            -6 Muslim Brotherhood ‘advisers’ in Obama Administration.

            -Muslim Brotherhood infiltrates top Gov. positions, yep, Google it

            -Muslim Brotherhood MPAC Trains TSA to give Muslims VIP pass, Google it.

            -Release from Gitmo of 5 of the most dangerous Taliban commanders, not a word about any of them since.

            -Botched US attempt to trade kidnapped Benghazi ambassador Stevens for the Blind Sheikh. The same operation was also used to ship US “heavy” weapons to al Qaeda (now called ISIS). . Google it.

            -Our US military (being defunded, demoralized and weakened defunding veteran benefits and services), increasingly under foreign command, are now fighting against an enemy that is trained, funded, given tactical weapons, infrastructure and support (and probably top secret planning) from our own federal government?

            -Illegal invaders flooding across our open borders are not just from Central America.

            قهر الطواغيت @Sunna_rev
            #AmessagefromISIStoUS We are in your state We are in your cities We are in your streets You are our goals anywhere
            6:47 PM – 9 Aug 2014

            (think they are empty handed?)

            …get it yet?

            … and the push to ban gun ownership for law abiding US citizen’s.

          • gerry d welder

            Maybe Hillary will save us? (that is if the CFR tells her to -in her own words). NOPE, like in HOPE.

            Google:Hillary Clinton Pushes to Make Criticism of Islam a Crime in the US

            By snipe December 11, 2011

   united-states/ hillary-clinton-pushes-to-make-criticism-of-islam-a-crime-in-the-us/ question-2333671/

            Huma wants Hillary to be president more than Hillary does.

            If Hillary Clinton is elected president in 2016, guess who will be her closest and most trusted adviser; Muslim Sisterhood daughter …

            “It would have been quite the notch in the Brotherhood’s belt to see one of its daughters become he first lady of the city that was hit on 9/11 by… Muslim Brotherhood terrorists.”


            Hillary’s Valerie Jarrett in 2016

            By Ben Barrack on October 9, 2014


            “Abedin, whose familial connections to the Muslim Brotherhood are as irrefutable as they are extensive, could very well have her eye on the 2020 Muslim Brotherhood prize.”


            The Dark Muslim Brotherhood World of Huma Abedin | FrontPage …

   2012/ jamie-glazov/ the-dark-muslim-brotherhood-world-of-huma-abedin-2/

            ( 8/8/1999 – Hillary at a White House function, proudly tells some Muslim groups she is gaining a greater appreciation of Islam because Chelsea was then taking a class on the “religion of peace”)

            (and Huma is her top aid) “This becomes an issue since Huma sits in the U.S. State Department with eyes and ears to classified government secrets. ”

            …and Bloody Hillary Benghazi, leave them to die Clinton wants to be commander in chief of our armed forces?? God help our soldiers.

          • Foster Patterson

            Oh, and for those who haven’t forfeited their intelligence to the conservative devils, the real enemy of the world are the European Banking families (and American counterparts), whom express their control through Central Banks, and the Global Corporations, not to mention the International Scam Organizations like IMF, World Bank, etc.

            Any presentment of an alleged takeover by any other group, including Islam, is part of the strategy employed to keep all eyes off of our true enemies.

            Just because various groups fight back against American domination doesn’t make them evil. America is the Great Satan (we use the euphemism “American Exceptionalism”, but the meaning is exactly the same). In fact, anyone who fights against the government of the United States is a friend to the people of America, who are currently nothing more than the disposable pawns of Global Banking/Corporatism.

            You can fool most of the people most of the time. If you think Islam is the problem then you’ve been fooled. Fractional reserve banking is the greatest fraud in human history, the most cunning device for world domination ever devised, and clearly the handiwork of evil-minded individuals. That’s your enemy, my enemy and the enemy of every living entity on this planet today. If you aren’t absolutely convinced of this it’s because they’ve effectively neutralized your intelligence.

            Anything else is nonsense uttered by brainwashed minions.

          • gerry d welder

            “forfeited their intelligence to the conservative devils”?

            I think your confusing the neo-con progressives that are the current leadership of the GOP and who work in tangent with Obama, Kerry, Kissinger, Rowe and Obama, etc. and hate Constitutional conservatives and the Tea Party.

            You should re-read my posts and see how they intend to use (and are using) Islam in concert with their ultimate goals.

            We seem to agree on many things.

            Anarchists and communists (etc) also love to pummel capitalism.

            ‘Capitalism’ is a word incorrectly used by itself and by useful idiots or their puppet masters

            They are referring to crony capitalism, which is what we have had for many years.

            The reason the USA was >once< the envy of the world, the land of the free, the home of the American dream, the land of golden opportunity and that regularly lifted 'legal' immigrants from rags to riches was:

            'Free Market Capitalism', protected by the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, supported by US laws and uncorrupted regulatory agencies and uncorrupted politicians.

            We in the USA now have corrupt regulatory, corrupt and bought politicians (RINOs and all democrats, our Tea party is fixing that, but slowly, we likely will need another revolution), elected officials that act treasonously for corporations and banksters, etc. which is the furthest thing from what you call 'capitalism'.

            What do you want instead, communism, socialism, fascism? That worked for nobody throughout history and is now again wrecking France and all of it's neighbors.

            ALL young anarchists should read "The original Arguments', by Glenn Beck. It is the Federalist Papers in easy to read and understandable form and was the means to explain to the newly formed citizens of the new experiment called the USA that was to try it without a monarchy or dictator.

            They did well …

            but couldn't keep it (as Franklin worried) due to the allowing of liberals to infest education, MSM and the judicial branch of government (they of course in their hubris always know better).

            When people say 'capitalism', they're just recycling tragic history.

            “It is labor alone that is productive: it creates wealth and therewith lays the outward foundations for the inward flowering of man.”
            ― Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism

            “The law-abiding citizen by his labor serves both himself and his fellow man and thereby integrates himself peacefully into the social order. The robber, on the other hand, is intent, not on honest toil, but on the forcible appropriation of the fruits of others' labor.”
            ― Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism

          • Daniel Doyle

            There are A LOT of conservatives who know the Federal Reserve Bank is a cancer upon the surface of life. Your skewed observation was ignorant and unfounded.

          • Foster Patterson

            America has never been a Christian nation. Not one word to that effect has ever been codified.

            America was deliberately created with the intention of accepting and tolerating all religions. It is almost inconceivable that any intelligent, honest person has not understood this concept, and understands that it is completely incompatible with declaring America as a Christian nation.

            Persons of insufficient intelligence insist on beating this broken drum of falsehoods.

          • Daniel Doyle

            You need to read more about the founding events and people who acted on that stage. It was, perhaps in a state of blissful ignorance, not foreseen by those founders that God would one day be dispensed with. The concept of a creator was not even considered abandonable by those people. We have done in our time what they would have considered unconscionable.

  • Foster Patterson

    Did you ever read Noam Chomsky (as an example of someone with good journalistic writing skills)?

    The authors on this site suffer from extreme emotional connection with their topic, which diminishes the impact of their writings. I am personally getting sick of it!

    I have a great respect for the intentions of this site, but seriously, you are getting in the way of your own message by including the personal feelings. Good writers, who actually move their readers into beneficial thought and action, keep the narrative neutral, presenting fact, logical conclusions from those facts, and suggested responses. Insults, tirades and emotionally charged expositions detract from the message and infer an immature analysis.

    Grow up if you want to make something of yourselves.

  • majorx

    Complete and utter nonsense….this is the false con of those enemy within that would weaken our resolve to defend America. Some of these are fools or useful idiots being used by the enemy others are dedicated ideologues. In either case they are traitors and need to be destroyed to protect America.