Muhammad – the Founder of Islam – Specifically CONDEMNED AS SINNERS Anyone Who Failed to Protect Christians or Interfered with Christians’ Ability to Practice their Own Faith

File:The Patent of Mohammed.jpgThe Achtiname of Muhammad – 626 AD

Muslims Who Persecute Christians Are Violating a DIRECT ORDER from Muhammad

ISIS and other Muslim extremists who persecute Christians are disobeying a direct order from Muhammad, the founder of Islam.

Specifically, in 626 AD, Muhammad issued The Achtiname of Muhammad, also known as the Covenant or (Holy) Testament (Testamentum) of the Prophet Muhammad.

The Achtiname – shown above – ordered Muslims to protect and defend Christians, and condemned as sinners Muslims who mistreated Christians:

This is a letter which was issued by Mohammed, Ibn Abdullah, the Messenger, the Prophet, the Faithful, who is sent to all the people as a trust on the part of God to all His creatures, that they may have no plea against God hereafter. Verily God is the Mighty, the Wise. This letter is directed to the embracers of Islam, as a covenant given to the followers of Nazarene [i.e. Christians] in the East and West, the far and near, the Arabs and foreigners, the known and the unknown.

This letter contains the oath given unto them, and he who disobeys that which is therein will be considered a disobeyer and a transgressor to that whereunto he is commanded.  He will be regarded as one who has corrupted the oath of God, disbelieved His Testament, rejected His Authority, despised His Religion, and made himself deserving of His Curse, whether he is a Sultan or any other believer of Islam. Whenever monks, devotees and pilgrims gather together, whether in a mountain or valley, or den, or frequented place, or plain, or church, or in houses of worship, verily we are [at the] back of them and shall protect them, and their properties and their morals, by Myself, by My Friends and by My Assistants, for they are of My Subjects and under My Protection.

I shall exempt them from that which may disturb them; of the burdens which are paid by others as an oath of allegiance. They must not give anything of their income but that which pleases them—they must not be offended, or disturbed, or coerced or compelled. Their judges should not be changed or prevented from accomplishing their offices, nor the monks disturbed in exercising their religious order, or the people of seclusion be stopped from dwelling in their cells.

No one is allowed to plunder the pilgrims, or destroy or spoil any of their churches, or houses of worship, or take any of the things contained within these houses and bring it to the houses of Islam. And he who takes away anything therefrom, will be one who has corrupted the oath of God, and, in truth, disobeyed His Messenger.

Poll-taxes should not be put upon their judges, monks, and those whose occupation is the worship of God; nor is any other thing to be taken from them, whether it be a fine, a tax or any unjust right. Verily I shall keep their compact, wherever they may be, in the sea or on the land, in the East or West, in the North or South, for they are under My Protection and the testament of My Safety, against all things which they abhor.

No taxes or tithes should be received from those who devote themselves to the worship of God in the mountains, or from those who cultivate the Holy Lands. No one has the right to interfere with their affairs, or bring any action against them. Verily this is for aught else and not for them; rather, in the seasons of crops, they should be given a Kadah for each Ardab of wheat (about five bushels and a half) as provision for them, and no one has the right to say to them this is too much, or ask them to pay any tax.

As to those who possess properties, the wealthy and merchants, the poll-tax to be taken from them must not exceed twelve drachmas a head per year [according to Wikipedia, about 200 modern U.S. dollars].

They shall not be imposed upon by anyone to undertake a journey, or to be forced to go to wars or to carry arms; for the Islams have to fight for them. Do no dispute or argue with them, but deal according to the verse recorded in the Koran, to wit: ‘Do not dispute or argue with the People of the Book but in that which is best’ [29:46]. Thus they will live favored and protected from everything which may offend them by the Callers to religion (Islam), wherever they may be and in any place they may dwell.

Should any Christian woman be married to a Musulman [i.e. Muslim], such marriage must not take place except after her consent, and she must not be prevented from going to her church for prayer. Their churches must be honored and they must not be withheld from building churches or repairing convents.

They must not be forced to carry arms or stones; but the Islams must protect them and defend them against others. It is positively incumbent upon every one of the Islam nation not to contradict or disobey this oath until the Day of Resurrection and the end of the world.

(This is the Haddad translation; other, similar translations can be found here.)

ISIS and other Islamic terrorists are not true Muslims, and they have disobeyed a direct order of Muhammad.

No wonder the majority of Muslims all over the world condemn them.

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  • Franklin Beenz

    Islamistic Terrorists Do Not Represent Islam just as terrorists of other faiths do not represent the other religions

    • poete.maudit

      Oh really? And just what are these “terrorists” who supposedly do not represent Islam doing that the armies of Mohammed didn’t do when they swept through the lands of Christendom in the 7th century? Care to tell us?

      • B. Miles Teg

        There is moral historical relativism here that does not hold… the Crusades were very much the same as what the musliims did, what the Romans did, or the Byzantines or Egyptians… Modern times after the UN or Geneva protocols point to different standards… Colonialism was objected to in part because of the civilising mission (of which there was none – just plunder)…
        And I hope that others do not take your reasoning seriously when applied to Apartheid Israel and its warcimes and/or genocide in Occupied Palestine… because then, consistently applied, you would rightly be called an anti-semite…

        • poete.maudit

          No, there is not. I have made no mention of Romans or Catholics, your asinine equivocation of the Crusades with Islamic doctrine notwithstanding. You just invented this point to direct away from mine: the actions of the Islamic State which are here being decried as some sort of faux Islam are completely in accord with Islamic tradition and history. Or would you care to answer the question to demonstrate otherwise?

          • B. Miles Teg

            Seems like you play from the Zionist Troll book. Enough already!

          • BobTrent

            “Equivocation?” — the use of ambiguous language to conceal the truth or to avoid committing oneself; prevarication.
            I don’t see how this means anything.

        • poete.maudit

          You just can’t help yourself, can you? What should we call this? A reductio ad Judaeum?

          • TerryHuggles

            You have a particular fascination about Judaism and you play that victim card like a conman. You are from South Africa, white and ferociously Islamophobic. In apartheid South Africa, you and your family must have been real mutherfcukers.

            We defeated Apartheid South Africa and we will defeat Apartheid Israel.

          • Luther

            @TerryHuggles:disqus Just your use of the word Islamophobic proves you to be ignorant or complicit – neither of which is helpful.

          • BobTrent

            Not to fear the true believers in a religiopolitical ideology that promotes murdering all who are not followers of that ideology, and raping all the females from age 9 up who are not labeled “Muslim” seems unreasonable, naïve. They do not merely discuss their beliefs abstractly in their mosques but large numbers put them into action.

          • Billy Kravitz

            Two million, VOTING, free Israelis of Muslim/Arab background do NOT live in an apartheid state. . You are ignorant of the facts, or maybe you’re not, but just tell lies… In the past, Jews were always the powerless minority you discriminated against or worse… (in your mind)~> compromise with Jews!?!?!? NEVER!… Well God is greater than that. Israel & Ishmael SHALL be reconciled. A strong, mutually respectful, two state solution will work. The purpose of ALL valid revealed religions is to make us better people. If you want to join the haters, I can’t stop you. But we should all aspire to be better than that. Since WW2 alone, borders and populations have shifted all over the Earth. Not an ideal thing but in EVERY OTHER INSTANCE those involved have dealt with it and moved on. You and those like you just don’t want to deal with Jews. You love hate too much. Funny thing though, ALL ‘Abrahamic’ Scriptures attest to Jewish national rights. We didn’t make THAT up. .. I don’t even see how we’re ALL such different RELIGIONS.. ‘Religion’ means how we ‘realize’ God, or the Divine… and we ALL ‘realize’ God in the same way. The differences are more (in a sense) denominational in nature…not that various sects don’t, unfortunately, fight each other too, but ‘different’ ‘realizations’ we are not…. That’s all. didn’t mean to get so preachy… We all got the same choice… Do good or do bad.. and not just whats good or bad for us and our group, but what’s good or bad for everybody… Just don’t throw hate at each other…That’s all SO MANY people do on line… It’s sickening.

        • marvri75

          There is no genocide in anything called Palestine. The Palestineans are the fastest growing population group in the world so by definition no genocide.

          Islam and christianity are the two most intolerant, supremacist and murderous ideologies of all time. And the crusades, brutal as they were, were specifically announced by the then popes as reaction to islamic violence in the Levant.

          • zee788

            True. But not as if secular ideologies are not supremacist. What do you call democracy, the idea that whatever the majority decides must be implemented even until the point of death?

          • Tim Taylor

            Palestinian is a made up word. They are Arabs held in diaspora by fanatic Muslim caliphates. Rather than allow them to go home to Syria, Jordon, etc, they hold them hostage to wage war within a civilian population to exterminate Jews. It matters not what Mohammed or Jesus said. The hierarchy gains control of religion, they use the masses to do their own evil bidding. Islam today is controlled substantially by evil. To deny it is to deny reality. The rape statistics in Europe are through the roof with the rise of nearly 70 million Muslim immigrants who treat women like property. Sweden is the rape capital of the world now. In Britain, they just exposed a rape ring abusing 1400 women run by Muslims. It’s all in the news.

          • BobTrent

            All words are “made up.” “Palestine” is from the name of the Roman province “Palestina,” formed after the Jews were driven out of the region.

          • Yah Saves

            After educating me, I read through some of your posts Bob. I must say that you appear to be one of the brightest people I have read in many years. First of all-Thanks. It is refreshing. Next, I must ask: You are well read and are aware of things most are not, so I must ask how is it that someone like you can call themselves a Christian knowing the myriad of serious problems with it? You must know it is full of lies. Just wonderin”. Ignore if you want. Either way, thanks again. I enjoy your words.

          • BobTrent

            I call myself a Christian because I have conformed to the requirements to become a Christian:
            1. Hear the gospel – the good news of salvation from the just reward for my sins
            2. Believe the gospel
            3. Repent of my sins – be sorry that I have offended my Creator, and resolve not to continue in them
            4. Be immersed in water for the forgiveness of my sins
            5. Persevere – continue in the faith.
            Among the very first Christians were some who incited the Roman procurator, Pontius Pilatus, to sentence Jesus of Nazareth, the Anointed One of God, to be crucified.
            “Knowing the serious problems… ”
            Name them.
            “With it… ”
            What is the antecedent of this pronoun? The most recent noun is “Christian.” Which Christian out of the many millions of us has the serious problems you insinuate?

          • Yah Saves

            “Name them.”

            Editing the Sabbath
            Removing His name
            How many shall I mention?

          • Great White

            Jesus didn’t say follow the Christians, he said follow me!

          • BobTrent

            “Love your enemies.” “Do good unto those who despitefully use you.” “Return not evil for evil.” “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Put away your sword.” “Turn the other cheek.” — Jesus
            Pray tell, what about the teachings of Jesus and His messengers do you find “intolerant, supremacist and murderous” about Jesus’ teachings or of those who follow them?
            [I realize that I am responding to a post from 8 months ago.]

          • Libertybelle

            Perhaps you never read Death by Government (Rummel). The godless commies last century win the grand prize for evil. And in short time (as opposed to the ancient religions you criticize). They are pikers compared to the the dead bodies produced by the godless commies.

        • Yah Saves

          “Occupied Palestine”
          That’s rich. Tell ya what. Show me a map before 1920 that says “Palestine” on it and you can have my house.

          BTW, the “crusaders” were not Christian-that would be impossible. Yes, I will educate you if needed.

          • bot

            I have on from 1880 that shows that area under the name Palestine. Where do I pick up the keys?

          • Yah Saves

            The day after you show it to me, but….. You’re a liar. There is no such animal. This will be proven by you not providing a shred of evidence.

          • BobTrent

            The USA Library of Congress has one titled “Palestina, Sieu Terra Sanctae Descripto,” dated 1650, and another titled “La Palestine, les Tribus, et Jerusalem,” dated 1783. I can give you my address so you can send the deed and keys to YOUR (not some bank’s) house.

        • Guest

          B. Miles Teg – please, I beg you, answer ANY of the questions in this quiz. I’m trying to prove to the idiots out there that Palestine indeed existed.

          • B. Miles Teg

            As they say, the answer is in the question. But to take you more seriously, the Treaty of Laussane around the league of nations mentioned it, as well as being a Colonial designation (the basis for Israel, and other British terriroties).
            The petition to the International Criminal Court for racist Zionist atrocities will have to make a decision on these matters as Palestine has filed accession to the Geneva Protocols (remember that quaint set of laws that were to be be ‘never again’ for the holocaust). Of course, bias against brown peoples may allow the powers that be to not prosecute Genocide and War Crimes on a technicality.

          • BobTrent

            1. Peleset, called after the Philistine tribes, is known from ca. 1150 BC.

            The Assyrians called the region “Palashtu” or “Pilistu.”

            Herodotus, 5th century BC, referred to “Palaistinê,” a district of Syria.

            Aristotle, ca. 340 BC, referred to “Palestine.”

            Ca. AD 135 the Romans designated the new province Syria Palaestina, a merger of the provinces of Roman Syria and Roman Judea.

            2. Like many nations of the day, Palestine had no definite boundaries until it became a Roman province. Countries faded into no man’s lands where few went and where skirmishes between troops of neighboring countiries took place. They also went from nationhood to province and back again, ruled by kings, princes, dukes, and other degrees of royalty and nobility.

            On the west it was bordered by the Mediterranean Sea. In the east, by the Arabian Desert.

            3. With the merger of Roman Syria and Roman Judea into Syria Palaestina, Antiochia became the capital city of the entire province.

            4. Antiochia, Aelia Capitolina (Jerusalem), Caesarea Maritima.

            5. Septimius Odaenathus, a Prince of Palmyra

            6. Like “melting pot” nations and regions today, Syria Palaestina had a number of languages. Greek, Latin, Syrian, Aramaic are four.

            7. When? Various pagan religions, Judaism, Christianity from ca. AD 29-33. Islam did not exist until the 7th century. The official religion of the Roman Empire was state-worship with the ruling monarch or dictator personifying the Roman state. Rome tolerated all other religions as long as they did not compete with the state cult and the worshippers conducted their rites openly, not in secret.

            8. Coins of many nations circulated freely in the ancient world. As the major coins were of gold and silver alloys, no one cared much what rulers’ mugs and inscriptions were on the coins. Many minor princes minted coins. Who cares today whether the United States’, China’s, Canada’s, South Africa’s, whatever’s name and slogans are stamped on a gold or silver disc, as long as the weight of the pure metal can be reliably and easily ascertained? The abomination known erroneously as “paper money” did not exist then.
            The official coinage during the Roman rule was Roman.

            9. The United States did not exist until 1776. There was no such nation as unified Germany until the 19th century. Germany was a region populated chiefly by German tribes, later organized into various German principalities loosely governed by Holy Roman Emperors. The UK of GB, etc. did not exist until 1707. The people of Rome and Palestine were barely aware of the existence of Nippon until relatively modern times. Same for China, though Marco Polo’s account of his travels to China raised awareness of China’s existence.

            10. Ca. AD 390, the province of Palaestina was reorganized into the Byzantine provinces of Palaestina Prima, Palaestina Segunda and Palaestina Salutaris. With the rise of Islam, these names continued in use. The name “Palestine” is found in Early Modern English, and by the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, or Sanjak of Jerusalem, was an Ottoman (Turkish) special administrative district established in 1872.

            11. They were ruled by the Turks until 1919, when the Ottoman Empire, which was on the losing side in WWI, withdrew, and by League of Nations mandatories more or less until 1946. Jordan gained a considerable independence in 1922. Today’s Syria was roughly the Levant, and was the French Mandate from 1919 until 1946. The British Mandate for Palestine ended in 1948. The State of Israel was established simultaneously at midnight, May 14, 1948, ending the official name of “Palestine” for the same area. The indigenous Arab peoples of former Palestine have various attitudes regarding the handing-over of their country to the State of Israel, ranging from violent hostility to wholesale endorsement.The ones who were hostile never had the military ability to overthrow hegemony by the State of Israel. Most Palestinians were more interested in making a living than in fighting to be ruled by fellow Arabs. Even today, we see only a minority who are opposed to the State of Israel enough to do anything. But this is the case in many countries when secession from a ruling power is in the air. Most are satisfied well enough with their current state of affairs if they can earn a living for themselves and their families.

            “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

        • BobTrent

          The Arabs are largely descendants of Ishmael, the firstborn son of Abraham by his wife’s slave. They are not the Canaanites who were commanded to be slaughtered and driven out of the land promised to the descendants of Abraham.

        • Libertybelle

          The crusades were the response to Muslim aggression, not the other way around.

      • They, too, weren’t following Mohammed’s directive. Duh.

      • The fact there are sizeable Christians in the Middle East & North Africa demonstrates the tolerance of Islam, care to tell me how many Muslims were left in Iberia, Sicily, Crimea, after Christian conquests?

        • 1stworlder

          That demonstrates their ability to defend against Islam with harsh men like Sadam & Bashir. The examples you want of islam and others are Armenians in Turkey, x-tians in Syria & Egypt after bath house Barry supported jihadist groups.

          • So the fact that Christians were members of Saddams government and supported means what? And that Christians support Bashar Assad means what? get your head out of your posterior

          • 1stworlder

            Saddam put down jihadists for every civilized persons benefit. Its the pansys like beheaded James Foley who tweeted that the tea party was more dangerous than Muslims, that thought Saddam was being mean to muslims. What did the O-Hole say in response to beheadings of Americans? I beheading out to da golf corse

          • 1stworlder

            Saddam put down jihadists for every civilized persons benefit. Its the pansys like beheaded James Foley who tweeted that the tea party was more dangerous than Muslims, that thought Saddam was being mean to muslims. What did the O-Hole say in response to beheadings of Americans? I beheading out to da golf corse

        • Avram Cohen

          Sam, your full of poop, the middle east was 80-90% Christian at one time, just look at what Greater Armenia that stretched from Israel to the Black Sea.. Islam has been a cancer to Christians for 1400 years!

    • RealityAlwaysBites

      Yes they do, just like cops, when the good cops don’t stop the bad…. all are bad.

      When a religious monkey stands up and starts shrieking….if the other monkeys don’t beat the psycho monkey…. well you get it.

    • marvri75

      Since the bible and quran are terroristic books ISIS are exactly doing what the quran says muslims should do, and in fact what the socalled prophet Muhammad himself did so often: slaughter entire tribes that refuse to join islam.

      • Care to share your thoughts on the Talmud?

        • Luther

          Are you implying that today Jews and Muslims are equally violent? If so, please give ample evidence.

      • zee788

        And of course that is pretty barbaric. But what happens if someone tries to secede from the U.S. or some other country? Will the army not invade those who refuse to remain a part of this society and kill them if they resist?

        • BobTrent

          Been done before. The northern US states weren’t generating enough revenues for the big-government expansionists in Washington. The southern states were where the import duties were being collected that were funding the US government.
          President Lincoln explained why he could not abide the secession of the south (which included Maryland, encompassing Washington).

          “The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the government, and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere.”

          Lincoln even endorsed the proposed Corwin Amendment (if ratified, it would have been the 13th) which would have made chattel slavery permanent subject to state laws. His purpose was to placate the southern states and to put an end to their secession. Unfortunately he had already antagonized them to the point that this was not enough. The secession was mostly about money (surprise! surprise!), not slavery. The worst thing was that Lincoln’s Congress had enacted a measure doubling the import duties on the main trade merchandise the southern states traded their cotton for from 20% to 40%. This was a measure that the southerners regarded as choking. But the Congress knew that if the Senators and Congressmen from the southern states returned to Congress that this measure would be dead.

          Even on slavery, the killer to the southern states was that the abolitionists insisted that no compensation be paid to slaveowners for the freeing of their slaves, unlike many other countries that had abolished slavery. The northern slaveowners, before their states abolished slavery, had time to ship their slaves south to sell them before slavery ended in their states. That the northerners could sell their slaves to the southerners, then tell them that they had to let them go and lose the money they had paid for them, was rubbing salt into the wound. Only a small minority of southerners owned even one slave, but the ones who owned many slaves were powerful politically.

    • Libertybelle

      Islamic terrorists represent Mohammad. And there is no way for you to get around it.

      Jesus was NEVER the leader of an army which terrorized one piece of land in the Middle East. Mohammad was.

      Jesus never held females captive against their will and raped them repeatedly. Mohammed did,
      Jesus never had sex with a little girl and pretended she was a “wife”. Mohammed did.

      Jesus never plundered the property of others. Mohammed did.
      Mohammad was a criminal and pirate. Jesus obeyed Roman law up to and including his crucifiction on the cross.
      Mohammed destroyed one village after another in Arabia. He attacked those who did nothing to him.

      That is the true way of Islam.

  • SausageUp

    I guess its a bit like Christians who forget the prime directive “Thou Shalt Not Kill”. Supporting wars, torture, assassination and the like.

    • poete.maudit

      ‘Ratsah’ and ‘phoneuo’ absolutely mean ‘murder’. There is no such pacifist teaching in the Christian religion, let alone a “prime directive”. Go back to your re-runs of Star Trek, buddy.

      • SausageUp

        and a drone strike is not murder? How about a tank round through a family home? Napalm on a village? Really, need I go on?

        • 1stworlder

          I guess you should have thought about that before electing Bath House Barry, he fraps to drone strike kiddy snuff vids.

          • SausageUp

            I guess you should return to the point- hypocrite.

        • BobTrent

          It is expedient for Christians to stay out of war as we cannot know what the reasons for a war are, or whether an action is justified.

      • BobTrent

        Self-defense and defense of other innocent people is not violence but is lawful use of force. An important distinction.

    • Skip

      It is against Christianity to kill just as it is against Islam or any other religion to kill. Of course, with that being said all people of all religions still do so. The main difference here is that I don’t believe that these “Christians” that you speak of (who kill and support wars etc.) claim to do so in the name of Jesus Christ (which of course is contrary to his teachings). If they do they are either deceived or hypocrites.

      • marvri75

        It is only against christianity to kill other true christians. However, the ‘god’ in the bible warmly approves of killing when it comes to non-true-christians. Preferably applying the economies of scale.

        Same with slavery, ‘god’ chosen people should not be enslaved, but everyone else that is just fine.

        The 10 commandments should speficially be read as applying only to true believing christians as per the bible. Thou shalt not steal from another true believing christian, thou shalt honor thy parents as long as they’re true believing christians, thou shalt not covet thy neighbours goods as long as he’s a true believing christian and so forth.

        My parents sent me to bible class and sunday school and I had to learn all that stuff. And unlike others, I’m not in denial because I don’t want to let go of my invisible/non-existent friend.

        Like the bible, the quran contradicts itself all over the place. Unfortunately, the further you get in the quran, the more agressive the verses become, rendering invalid the earlier ‘peaceful’ verses that gullible western liberals like to quote so much.

        • Skip

          I’m sorry. You had me at the first line… When did Jesus Christ mention that it is all right to kill Non-Christians? In what part of the New Testament does it mention this?

          • marvri75

            Jesus told you not to ignore the old testament.


          • Ghana

            You have to move the teachings forward, not backwards. He stated not to ignore and to follow the 10 commandments, plus 2. Any law contradicting the 12 is a Satanic Principle. When Peter went to use violence Jesus rebuked him and healed a degenerate just like you who took Him to be murdered. He also pre-forgave a loser like you and me named Peter who knew him intimately and denied Him. He even went further to build His church through Peter the rock instead of some shitty rock temple. He prophesized it’s destruction and the possibility of yours too Marv. It’s not His desire, it’s yours. His ability to understand what sin does to us genetically is only now being signified through our science. The results are in. Adulterers, liars, thieves, frauds, selfish, disrespectful, idolaters, and murders scar their genes. Each sin category creating a stripe on the genetic code in the same spot. Get this through your thick skull. The Christ was hung on you the cross; the RNA contained by each human born of a woman. (Yes, I’m excluding Genetically Modified Humans; not hybrids, but modified. They’re the tares and the issue.) Anointed RNA held between a thief on the right and an unbeliever on the left and twisted into the helix or 2D fish symbol or DNA.
            As you sin you step down Jacob’s Ladder/your DNA. As you repent you climb Jacob’s Ladder/Your DNA. At the end of each life cycle your recorded in the Book of Life(s) more or less. This decides the line of DNA you’ll reincarnate into on your next trip here. You decide if you are lighter/stronger or darker/weaker in the stream of life. Do you understand now, why the meek will inherit the earth? Why the sinners/RNA blasphemers write themselves out of the Book of Life(s)? Can you conceptualize now, why Satanic forces have adopted scanners that are being used at transportation and population hubs? Do to Christ agreeing to donate His RNA for your creation He retains the right to judge you worthy of higher incarnation or lower each time we materialize into any dimension because He did what Adam couldn’t, forsake this world and your Satanic lies and promises. Father rests in the darkness of our unconsciousness because it is the only habitat of peace. He does not rest in the darkness of sinful choices, but allowed His Son to decide if we were worth it and He said, “Yes, forgive them because they don’t have a clue.”
            Ahhhhh, what’s the use. Pigs and pearls shant become acquainted. They run off cliffs and into the sea while the pearls lay trampled in the muck. Mercy to you Marvn and the people we stumble through our ignorance and sin. Stupid is lifelong, but ignorance is a choice.
            Peace be with you,

          • BobTrent

            You started off pretty well, then went down, starting with “build His church through Peter. There is no Scriptural or even profane, uninspired historical basis for this allegation.
            Jesus said that He would build His church on the fact that Peter had just then expressed: that Jesus is the Anointed One, the Son of God [Matthew 16:16]. Anyone who makes that confession recites the same statement of faith. Martha made the same confession [John 11:27]. The Ethiopian eunuch made the same confession [Acts 8:37].

          • sharpin la

            He referred to the law; he was an Essene. Go read their law. They wholly rejected the law of the Pharisees.

          • Lynn Peters

            Shh don’t wake the sleepers who wish to carry on the fun of demonizing JC.

          • Christopher Carnell

            The ONLY people God supported the JEWS killing were those who were threats to the NATION of ISRAEL before its borders were established. Like every OTHER parcel of land on Earth has had countries at one point or another living on it that KILL in order to create their nation and defend it against those who sought to destroy them. Israel is just one of the few people who have the balls to record what it took for them and the blood they spilled in order to establish their promised land. Once borders were established, the only killing of non Jews Israelites called for were enemies of the state and not a single person who didn’t convert to Judaism. So I call your bullshit and raise you the atrocities your forefathers committed to bring you the borders of the nation where you live.

          • It is wrong to kill people, rape their women and steal their lands. Even if you claim God said it was OK. Where is the evidence Joshua had been told by God to do these atrocities? There is none. So I call your bullshit and and raise you the atrocity of claiming God told ANYONE to do it.

        • Baseemah

          What is a true believing Christian? Where can I read the definition and where in the bible does Jesus peace and blessings of Allah be upon him… says he was a christian and if Jesus was a Christian what was Adam the father of Jesus?

          • BobTrent

            Jesus was/is not a Christian. He is the Christ. Christians are those who (plausibly claim to) be His disciples. No Christian has ever lived up to the ideals Jesus and His messengers taught. Too often some Christians do as David, a man after God’s own heart, give unbelievers occasion to blaspheme the name of the Lord [2Samuel 12:14].

      • Or, people all worship the same God in spirit, if you are truely seeking God. And Men, corrupted the words of ALL the prophets.

        Naw. Too easy. It has to be “one way or the high way”.

        You may want to ask yourself the question, is YHWH, not the Father? Is he.. Satan? The Real Father, has no darkness in him. YHWH claimed he does. Conflict resolution is needed.

        • kebcreation

          Darkness is not in God that is true but darkness is a covering for evil and hidden. God is like the light because his ways are not hidden and as a matter of a fact to know God’s ways is to repel the darkness with the light of truth. To God just as to the light darkness is manifested by the light bestowed upon it. But to God they are the same yet divided. Whatever is in the darkness cannot be hidden from God. No where in the Bible does it say darkness is in God.

          • God Dwells in Darkness:
            1 Kg.8:12, 2 Chronicles 6:1
            The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.

            Psalm 18:11
            He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.

            Psalm 97:2
            Clouds and darkness are round about him.

            God Dwells in Light.

            1 Timothy 6:15-16
            Lord of lords; who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light.

            My Statement Stands.

          • Sharon Ray

            Whishful thinking, you really are brain wash

        • Sharon Ray

          It is only a good king and a bad king, one king wanted good for the people and wanted bad for the people and to control them and the bad one won everyone is reading his bible and following him and will die for him the good King do not need a bible or book to go by because the good come from his heart cause he control his brain and he knows what is good for the people, GOD was a two leg evil man and was a king with a crown on his head . And that king was very evil and the people was his children but his son was the son of God the King himself Jesus is not real that is a made up name it’s all evil to control the people and take your wealth. The rich gets rich and the poor stay poor . That’s is how is will stay unless the people take their heads out of their ass and stand up for what is really there, and it is this land it belong to every living creature that have breath in their body, not the dead ones only the living,

          • Faron

            I have NEVER in my life heard your version. Jesus is a real name. Jesus healed many people and continues too. He died for our sins. He put his life before ours because He loves us so much that he died and shed his blood for our sins and we take it for granted so much these days. I love my God and savior Jesus Christ uncondiontionally. When I am down I pray to Him and I feel comfort. I have sinned badly in my past, but have chosen to do better and seek guidance from Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, God…I feel such a comfort now and blessed to be able to wake up and breath fresh air each day.

      • SausageUp

        Nevertheless, Christians in the US remain massive hypocrites and that is a fact you cannot avoid.

        • Skip

          I agree with that completely, which is why referred to those “Christians” in quotations.

        • Lynn Peters

          Then they aren’t Christian.

          I am no more a bottle of wine by claiming I am.

          • SausageUp

            My point entirely – welcome on board.

          • BobTrent

            The bottle label may read “wine” but anything may be inside or it may be empty.

      • Lynn Peters

        Wrong. The Talmud openly says it’s OK to kill Gentiles and to lie to them, deceive them and steal from them. Totally ignoring the compulsion to engage in dual ethics, dual morality and dual application of law.

      • Edward Huggins

        Christians have done it in the name of Christ…WWI, WWII, Crusades..check it…we got pastors praying we are victorious…we pray that a black man doesnt go in office.

        • BobTrent

          So the prayer was answered. The nation got a dark complected Caucasian (“White”) president.
          People may do things in Jesus’ name that He taught against. That doesn’t make all Christians guilty of sins that some commit in the name of Christ.
          The Crusades were in response to the Muslim conquest of the “Holy Land.”

      • prolibertate

        How is it against Islam to kill people? The Quran contains over 160 ORDERS to murder people for various reasons. Mohammed did it himself on a massive scale. In one incident, he had 800 Jewish prisoners of war murdered in a single day.

        Non-Muslims are not even considered as people. You can kill them as you please, the “prophet” or “Allah” will not object.

        • Baseemah

          Prove your statements with verses…do just randomly chose either read the Quran foryyourself… and compare the language and the era of times…and keep in mind the lineage of other sent Prophets peace be upon all of them…from Adam to Muhammed… and then read your Bible and I don’t know how many versionsyou have but read…and allow the best of logic and order prevail

        • Haroon Akhar

          My dear brother in Islam Christians and Jews are people of the book and are belivers not infidels or Kafir, Muslims rejoiced with the victory of Christian Romans aginst the Persian’s, please see surah Rum in the Qur’an. Most the verses in the Qur’an you are talking about are taken out of context, it’s a bit like saying America should respond nicely to the terrorists that attacked on 9/11, without any repercussion. The Qur’an was showing how to deal with the infidels/pagans who were waging war on the believers.All other religions has similar standpoints.

          The verses in the Qur’an are open to misinterpreation, if not understood in the correct context. The actiname of Muhammad May Peace Be Upon him, is clear , concise and sums the position of Muslims in regards to Christians until the day of judgment.

          And yes these crazy fundametalist Muslims/ISIS by no means represent Islaam in anyway shape or form, like Hitler doesn’t represent Christians..we should all unite against these Evil fridge elements.

          • prolibertate

            I imagine that you are a nice person who just happens to have been raised as a Muslim and if that is the case, then you must be very uncomfortable about all the violence in Islam.

            But sadly, I cannot agree with your interpretation of the Quran and the Hadiths!

            My neighbor was this man: Dr.Sami Aldeeb,

            An expert on Islam, having taught Arab and Sharia law at university level and having translated the Quran into multiple languages. He used the oldest existing scriptures and is one of the world’s most advanced experts on the Quran. He even spent the time to edit the Quran in chronological order.

            And he confirmed what my own observation was: the more context you add, the WORSE it gets, for the Quran, the less “peace” there is to be found in its pages.

            NONE of the violent verses stem from a period when Muslims were under attack!

            Mohammed LIED, CHEATED, ROBBED and made OFFENSIVE WAR to spread his cult.

            He dedicated 1 entire Surah to the division of LOOT. Yes, LOOT from WAR!

            And he considered WOMEN, i.e. HUMAN BEINGS as part of the loot, RAPING prisoners of war, turning them into SLAVES!

            In the Hadiths, you can see him handing out young girls or keeping them for himself as he pleased. As if they were his to give or keep.

            ZERO humanity!

            He talks about 1/5th of the loot being “for Allah”. And how was he going to send it to Allah? By Western Union? Why would Allah need any loot? Do you ever wonder about such questions?

            There’s no misinterpretation: Mohammed was just another founder of a sect that he used to achieve wealth, power and unlimited sex. There were hundreds like him. His sect just ended up being very successful, due to military conquests.

            There is absolutely NOTHING in the Quran or the Hadiths that could convey the impression that Mohammed had been inspired by a godly being.


            He didn’t even know that the earth was a planet. Thought it was flat. cf. the verses where he talks about the traveler (Alexander the great) reaching the PLACE where the sun sets and rises. And how the sun goes “under the throne of Allah” at night.

            And his concept of “justice” is HORRIBLE!

            Calls women “inferior”. I can find millions of women SUPERIOR to any Muslim man on this planet in every way – stronger, smarter, earning more money, having more power. So clearly, that is utter crap.

            Wants to main a thief for life – over an extremely common, minor crime that can be fixed through restitution? And he doesn’t even mention the risk of judicial error. Clearly, he was clueless.

            And what is it about pigs being “unclean”? Which genetic sequence is supposed to make them “unclean”? What a primitive perception of reality.

            If you had not been told, since childhood, that Mohammed was a prophet, would you really believe a word from someone so obviously wrong on everything?

          • Zinita

            Bro u clearly have no clue of what u talking about.mohamed didnt know the earth was round or a planet??the quran clearly stated that earth is a ball.cutting a thiefs hand requires at least four eyewitnesses.mohamed aquired wealth and power??when he died he didnt have nothing but the an old carpet he slept on.1/5 of the loot was to allah means it will be giving to the poor.i challenge you to name one war mohamed started?the 800 jews he killed were all men who tried to kill him after signing a not sure u lying or u just plain ignorant.
            U say mohamed raped women,how come his enemies didnt mention any of it.women are not inferior and quran dedicated whole chapters for women to protect their rights and praise them as equal but different human beings.i can go on and on about the lies you and your likes try to spread everytime u get a chance but every day thousands embrace islam despite all the negativity surrounding it.the truth simply cannot be fought.

          • prolibertate

            Yes, I know VERY PRECISELY what I’m talking about.

            You, on the other hand, are lying through your teeth!

            “the quran clearly stated that earth is a ball”

            ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

            Nonobstanding the lies from Zakir Naik, who makes words up as he goes.

            No, wait, I’m not going to debate this with you: just present your evidence!

            Show me the EXACT place where the Quran says anything about the earth being a “ball”!

            Then explain why there is a passage where the Quran talks about a traveler going to the PLACE where the sun rises and the PLACE where the sun sets!

            And why, in the Hadiths, Mohammed claims that the sun “goes under the thrown of Allah” AT NIGHT, which clearly shows that he didn’t have a clue what “night” is.

          • prolibertate

            “cutting a thiefs hand requires at least four eyewitnesses”

            Hahahahahahaha 😀

            1) That does not appear ANYWHERE in the Quran. It just says that the punishment for theft should be MAIMING THE PRESUMED GUILTY FOR LIFE!

            2) Eyewitnesses mean NOTHING! Any cop can tell you that for any event, say a car crash, 20 eyewitnesses will give totally conflicting stories.

            No matter what, there is ALWAYS doubt! Even with the most modern methods, they still get the wrong people – including with witness accounts etc. – which is occasionally revealed later with incontrovertible evidence.

            Someone who was wrongfully imprisoned can be compensated, at least somewhat.

            But a person who is MAIMED will stay a cripple for life!

            Any intelligent person, let alone “superior being”, understands this immediately.

            3) the punishment of MAIMING someone FOR LIFE is far, far, far more evil than theft! A thief can repay the damage he inflicted. He can make restitution. You cannot restore a man’s hand (although modern medicine is getting there).

            It is totally immoral to punish someone with something far worse than what the crime he was accused of.

            For all the above reasons, a punishment such as cutting off a thief’s hand – and claiming that this is the eternal will of a “god” – is EVIL and INSANE!

            You have to be totally brainwashed to accept such a claim and to believe that this is “moral”.

            If I was religious, I’d say Allah would have to be the devil.

          • prolibertate

            “when he died he didnt have nothing but the an old carpet he slept on”

            Is THAT the bullshit lie they tell you? That’s ridiculous! He LOVED money!

            Don’t get me started on all the SLAVE WOMEN he raped…

            “1/5 of the loot was to allah means it will be giving to the poor”

            No, it means it was given to Mohammed!

            The poor are not “Allah”. And if Allah wanted anything to be given to the poor, why wouldn’t he just give it himself? Supposedly, this imaginary being can do anything it wants. So Allah wants the poor to be poor.

            1/5th goes to Mohammed, who calls his delusional self “prophet”.

            And 1/5th goes to “the orphans”, i.e. ALSO MOHAMMED, as he was an orphan!

            In other words, Mohammed took 3/5ths of the loot, the smart fox…

          • prolibertate

            “the 800 jews he killed were all men who tried to kill him after signing a treaty”

            What level of delusion do you have to reach to make up such pathetic excuses for a mass-murderer?

            He MURDERED 800 Jews who had signed NOTHING. He simply kept demanding money from them and when they said they had ENOUGH and didn’t want to feed his greed, anymore, he attacked them.

            He made 800 prisoners of war, took their wives and children as slaves, RAPED them and MURDERED the now helpless prisoners of war.

            EVIL, period!

          • prolibertate

            Regarding ISIS, the problem is that they can refer to Mohammed for EVERYTHING THEY DO!

            There’s a hadith for every vile deed of theirs.

            And strangely, polls show that 80% of Muslims SUPPORT ISIS!

            Listen to how Mohammed treated camel thieves, according to this Imam. Is that really how a person inspired by a god would act?

            I’d say if anything, he’d have been inspired by the devil, with the violence, the pedophilia and all – but then, I don’t believe in gods and devils. I’ve never found anyone talking about god who had come up with something that could be considered as a god.

            Gods and demons are 100% a human invention with ZERO reality.


      • prolibertate

        “just as it is against Islam or any other religion to kill.”

        That’s completely untrue!

        Also utter nonsense.

        How can you even make such a statement?

        The Thugees had a religion that required them to murder travelers by strangling them with their ritual scarfs, sacrificing them to their god. The Aztecs ripped out their victims’ hearts and presented it, still beating, to their god, the sun. In one instance, they murdered 20’000 men in 3 days like that, all in the name of their religion.

        And the Quran ORDERS Muslims to murder “infidels” – there are 160 ORDERS to kill people for various reasons – and Mohammed practiced it extensively.

        So you are wrong about Islam and “religions” in general.

        A religion is just an ideology that refers to some imaginary being(s).

        How could you make generic assumptions about the delirious stuff that people invent to manipulate other people?

    • 1stworlder

      Keeping in mind that Mo’s greatest victory was from breaking a peace treaty in the middle of the night, at best you could compare the al-hijra commandment to rape non-Muslim women to be like the though shalt not lie commandment, some can chose to break it and not rape without being denounced by their fellows. Christianity only survived thanks to men like Vlad Tepes, Charles Martel, Blackjack Pershing, & Thomas Jefferson who oddly would be called islamaphobes now despite having the best understanding of them, and traded their cloaks for swords.

    • Lorin Chane Partain

      the KJV you cite is inaccurate. The literal translation is “No Murder” just two words in the Hebrew translated into English. And it is NOT the “prime directive” which is a concept from Star Trek. The Golden Rule is more akin to that.

      • SausageUp

        Im pretty certain that the principle of none violence and not murderering is a huge part of Christian doctrine, as I said, American Christians are hypocrites when they support the murder by drone, and the murder by tank and plane bullet and bomb caused by US foreign policy. My point and the principle stand- whichever translation you use.

    • Lynn Peters

      They are not Christian who call for wars and stand with satanic Israel as she slaughters God’s children after bearing false witness against them.

      • Great White

        Judge not lest ye be judged! You have judged the people of Israel as a whole. Go have a cookie now and pat yourself on the back!

    • John Eggers

      War is an act of civil government protection. God created & allows governments to carry out justice. Justice is not to be a vigilante act, hence our court system. “Thou Shalt Not Kill” is a poor translation of the Hebrew text which more accurately says thou shalt not murder. Killing in a war protecting the homeland is not murder. By the way the Christian prime directive is NOT thou shall not kill. The prime directive is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, & strength, & to love your neighbor as yourself. And we are to spread the Gospel & make disciples of all nations.

  • TerryHuggles

    There you go; the proof. It is also forbidden to persecute Jews if you are a Muslim.

    When Muslims are tageted by elements from both groups, they will often accuse Muslims of what they will never do.

    • poete.maudit

      Another ignoramus who doesn’t understand the Islamic concept that earlier words of the ‘Prophet’ are superceded by his later pronouncements that contradict them.

      • B. Miles Teg

        The protection of innocents (women, children, elderly, non-combatants) is part of Islamic Laws of War. Some elements are abrogated, but not the core. For instance, there is a symbolic jizya or tax paid in lieu of military service but most of the rest holds.
        Of course, I am engaging but if we were to replace Muslim/Islam for Jew and Judaism WE KNOW THAT THE THE TWO religions will be treated differently. Islamophobia is acceptable… perhaps consistency in values would be nice… if we are being rational that is…

        • poete.maudit

          Islamic tradition absolutely mandates the ‘atrocities’ of the Islamic State, which is why, rather unsuprisingly, what is happening in the middle East today is not any kind of exception to the history of Islamic warfare. ‘Islamophobia’ is acceptable? Where? In the Europe that imprisons you for it? Or in the peaceful countries run according to Islamic law where you’ll simply lose your life for taking that sort of line? Isn’t it just a little odd how whenever the theoretical religion in the minds of Islamophiles meets the historical and present reality of Mohammedanism, one hears a sound as if of a human skull hitting a concrete walls at 200 miles per hour? I do in fact look on Mohammedanism and Judaism in exactly the same light: it just so happens that the two ideologies don’t appear remotely alike in it.

          • B. Miles Teg

            Well we can argue opinions but I draw the line at facts. You may have the last word.

        • marvri75

          Only if you subjugate yourself to islam, accept muslims as your superiors, pay religious tax and accept inferior legal status.

          Muhammad had entire tribes slaughtered simply for refusing to follow him as a prophet.

        • 1stworlder

          I guess you don’t know about Taqiyya, kitman , diminitude & al-hijra. Al-hijra is why in the UK social workers didn’t want to report mass rapes of 1,400 indigenous girls by mud slimes because it fit the stereotype.

      • TerryHuggles

        You are hot and booking for trouble with Muslims. Keep it up and you may get your just deserts baldy.

      • TerryHuggles

        Actually I understand Islam very well and studied the subject as a minor. I also pursued my interest in the religion as a marine in active service. You, however, are a slack jawed dilettante who borrows his ideas from hate sites. I have met your sort before and when examined always found to be a first class dick with an axe to grind. I bet you have not done one productive thing in your degenerate life.

      • Mmm hmm. Kinda like Christendom and later so called “popes”.

        Guess what, ya both are in the wrong. Same coin, different sides.

        • MCB

          I’m not pointing fingers at anyone here posting in particular as there are some very smart and we’ll read people on the subject, but all too often these topics descend into ad nauseum arguments. This is why I’m an Agnostic and am not a member of any church nor do I participate in any religion actively. I’d rather spend my time and money outside of The Church with the local food bank, SPCA shelter, Wounded Warriors (yes I’m against war even though I’m an 8 year Air Force Vet – 1C6X1 – I check my politics at the door with Wounded Warriors because it’s not about about me) and St. Judes and other random acts of kindness and generosity as I’ve found in my 41 years of life that helping others is also a great way of helping myself at the same time. Just my $0.02.

      • MCB

        These days I’m more concerned with religious “profits”, than religious “prophets.” 🙂

  • poete.maudit

    You’re now having to appeal to documents of doubtful
    authenticity that are not even a part of the Islamic tradition in order
    to maintain the ludicrous assertion that the jihadists are not followers
    of Islam, acting on the words of Mohammed?

    • RealityAlwaysBites

      Monkeys will do what monkeys do, nothing in the universe more ignorant or useless than a religious monkey.

    • 1stworlder

      Not only that but they might as well bring out the peace treaty that Moo ham mad broke in the middle of the night.

      • BobTrent

        Treaties are for stalling until you can build up your military to attack or to intimidate your adversary into submission to what you want.
        Diplomacy is war without shooting. War is diplomacy with shooting.
        Peace is the use of scythes for killing adversaries. Swords are not very good for harvesting grain. Scythes are better suited for killing than swords are for mowing.

  • RealityAlwaysBites

    Do you really expect religious monkeys to understand what they practice? The religious believers brain is broken to the point they simply don’t work…. can’t have a imaginary friend and be sane.

    • Christopher Carnell

      I don’t expect ignorant, spiteful bigots like you to shut the fuck up either, but I deal with it. Learn to do the same.

  • Gallows Judge

    Muhammad gave this document specifically to the Monastery of St. Catherine, which is located at the base of Mount Sinai. It is an eastern orthodox christian monastery. This document is the reason that the monastery still stands and was not destroyed during the repeated military conquests of Islam. While the document can be used as an example to bring good will between christians and moslems, as some modern moslems have done, it is not a general manifesto of tolerance to christians. It has never been scene that way by Islamic scholars. We in the West cannot define Islam, only muslims can. The entire middle east was christian until Islam came on the scene. The history of eastern christianity, commonly called “eastern orthodox christianity” is one of persecution in the lands of Islam. This is just historical fact. The best that can be said is that Muslims are divided on ISIS. A theoretical construct based on a document given to a specific monastery cannot be used to deny the historical persecution of christians in the middle east. Just ask the Armenians.

  • marvri75

    Another gullible westerner fooled by the sanitized quran and explanation sheet that muslims have created for people like you.

    The quran quite specifically calls on muslims to kill unbelievers wherever they can be found. And all references to jihad in the quran, all 100+ of them, every single one, refers to war against unbelievers.

    Christians did the same to their bible, create a sanitized version where they can pretend its all peaceful stuff, despite their Jesus prohibiting any changing of the law for any reason (OT laws were unchangeable and eternally valid and Jesus claimed to have come to defend these laws with the sword).

    The fact remains that the quran and bible warmly approve of killing unbelievers, or stealing from them, besieging them, terrorizing them, enslaving them etcetera. Both bible and quran approve of slavery as long as it isn’t the chosen people being enslaved. And approve of murder too, it always depends of course on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.

    That’s why I stopped believing, despite my parents indoctrination attempts. Why would I waste time believing in things that don’t exist?

    I challenge you to learn Arabic and read the real quran, not the ‘sanitized for westerners’ version. And read the socalled prophets biography and explain how exterminating entire tribes for refusing you as a prophet is in any way peaceful.

      • Christopher Carnell

        The hilarity even further ensues when the Jews only called for slaughter in defense of their country, or in setting its borders by chasing out or killing natives who performed abominable practices like sacrificing babies to Molech on flaming metal alters, also claiming god foresaw which nations would or wouldn’t come back to try to slaughter them all. Nothing else in the bible supports murdering supposedly innocent people. People have murdered innocents in the Bible’s name while ignoring all the parts where it says murderers and thieves and all other unrepentent sinners suffer Gods wrath whether they call themselves Jews or Christians or not. Both sides have abominable, heinous acts against morality, humanity, and justice. I will defend Islam by correcting some people. it was okay to slaughter non believers where they may be found ONLY so long as there either was no alliance or they weren’t under Muslim rule. Everyone else was fair game though.

        • BobTrent

          What is America’s just due as a nation for legalizing the sacrifice of unborn children to “Molech,” known today as the god “Convenience”?
          Though poorly enforced, abortion was against the law as written. But in the 1970s state after state put the unborn out of the protection of the criminal homicide laws. Finally, in 1983 the highest court in the land ignored the plain prohibition in Article 1, sections 9 and 10 of the Constitution and legalized abortion, overthrowing the law in the remaining states.

    • BobTrent

      The law of Moses, the law given to Israel via Moses, was never given to other than the Israelites:

      “These are the decrees, the laws and the regulations that the Lord established on Mount Sinai between himself and the Israelites through Moses.” (Leviticus 26:46)

      “He has revealed his word to Jacob, his laws and decrees to Israel. He has done this for no other nation; they do not know his laws.” (Psalm 147:19-20)

      “Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.” (Romans 2:14-15)

      Basic right and wrong is put into the hearts of all men (human beings). By virtue of man’s original creation in the image of God he has a conscience that informs him – however imperfectly, due to man’s fall – with a sense of moral right and wrong.

      This does not mean the Gentiles are entirely “lawless” or do not have any moral responsibility before God, but simply that they were never under the law of Moses.

      Gentiles (non-Jews/Israelites) had specific laws given to them that we have preserved to this day:

      “God blessed them and said to them, ‘Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.'” (Genesis 1:28)

      “The Lord God commanded the man, ‘You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.’” (Gen. 2:16-17) This has no application to us today, for the tree is long gone.

      “God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, ‘Be fertile, increase in number, and fill the earth.'” (Gen. 9:1) A repeat of the first commandment given to mankind, Gen. 1:28. “Be fertile, and increase in number. Spread over the earth, and increase.” (9:7)

      A new commandment was given to Noah and to his descendants (us, not Israel only):

      “Surely I will require your lifeblood; from every beast I will require it. And from every man, from every man’s brother I will require the life of man. Whoever sheds man’s blood, By man his blood shall be shed, For in the image of God He made man.” (Gen. 9:5, 6)

  • MCB

    I simply have a hard time trusting documents like these. The Bible and The Koran have been under how many corrupt government’s control over the last 1000 years? And I’m supposed to study and trust that the hermaneutics are intact and believe some level of integrity remains? I don’t trust religious documents for the most part anymore than I trust any government which has had stewardship of those documents which is why I’m an Agnostic.

    • Some intergrity remains. Not all was corrupted. When did the great I AM limit himself to just one name? 🙂 much of it probably was though.

      I choose to worship a God of absolute love. Not the religious mens Gods, made into the image of evil men.

      • MCB

        Well said Not Authorized. 🙂

      • Yah Saves

        “When did the great I AM limit himself to just one name?”

        When He told us His name 7000 times as Yahuweh. ” I AM” is the root of His name (hayah) and the next sentence instruct Moses to tell them Yahuweh is His one and only name. The God of Abraham has one name and one name only.

        • Jeremiah 8:8. You give me numbers from the pen of lying scribes. Isn’t YHWH subservient to El Elyon?

          I know of Judaism and its polytheism roots.

          • Yah Saves

            If the scribes are lying, why pose the Scriptural referenced question pertaining to “I Am”. Furthermore, please learn the difference between a word and a name before typing. “El” is a Hebrew WORD for “God/Deity”. El Elyon are WORDS for the most high God or God on high. YHWH (Yahuweh) is His one and only personal and proper NAME. While you’re at it, learn the difference between a title and a name. I am a coach, a father, a husband and a business owner, but I have only ONE NAME.

          • Tell it to someone else.

            What about the 69 other gods and nations?
            Psalm 82? John 10? etc.
            The point is I AM is the name worshiped by ALL the Universes inhabitants. He has no name. HE simply is.

            Can you explain Asherah to us? The queen of heaven?

            PS, Only Jesus has a name that he knows. 😉 Moving the Goal posts won’t work with me. Jeremiah stated clearly, you do not have the law.

            Your religion is “scripture” written by men, redacted, and changed, to suit your purpose over the years. It’s all fiction.

          • Yah Saves

            Your first link is Deut 32:8: ” “When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance ”

            “most high” is ‛elyôn. That is an adjective professor. In thevery next sentence we find :”Deu 32:9 “For the portion of Yahuweh is His people, Yaʽaqoḇ His allotted inheritance.”

            “YHWH” is a proper noun.

            Isa 42:8 “I am Yahuweh, that is My Name,”

            Words do not get any clearer than this.

          • Yah Saves

            If there are 69 other names for the God of Abraham, why can’t you produce a single one of them? The point is…you don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • Yah Saves

            “It’s all fiction. And it’s provable now.”

            And here’s where you get called out. Give me the single most glaring issue you have with Scripture. The most obvious evidence that it’s “fiction”. I am not interested in web sites, or lists. I want ONE!

          • c a martin

            I am YHWH; that is My name; and I will not give My glory to another, nor My praise to engraved images.

          • You’ve been deleted. This is my world now.


          • c a martin

            Is not your wickedness great, and is there no end to your iniquities?

          • Tell it to someone else.

            What about the 69 other gods and nations?
            Psalm 82? John 10? etc.
            The point is I AM is the name worshiped by ALL the Universes inhabitants. He has no name. HE simply is.

            Can you explain Asherah to us? The queen of heaven?

            PS, Only Jesus has a name that he knows. 😉 Moving the Goal posts won’t work with me. Jeremiah stated clearly, you do not have the law.

            Your religion is “scripture” written by men, redacted, and changed, to suit your purpose over the years. It’s all fiction.

  • hvaiallverden

    Its crystall clear isnt it.

    There is NO way anyone can missunderstand this document and its even writen by the man himself.
    Why dont people then listen.
    Well, North Corea is a Democratic republic.
    Jupp, hehe just as you know it.
    Like Norway, a peacfull nation, that had its “racial cleaning” program running untill late 70, and still people in Norway referes people like me as sub humans.
    They have done it all, from forced childabductions to medical experiments, since sub humans dont have the same level of intellegence they dont even feal pain as a “good norwegian” does, the same exuse to treat animals as crueal as we do today.
    They took our land, our farms and simply gace it to the “good norwegians” so a lott of my people loost it all, incl in the Sovjet system of “soscial darwinism”.
    They all where Good Christians, and Norway is a Christian nation as they say it them selfs, and like to portray them selfs as, thats why they havent a problem with slaughtering other christians like the eastern Ukraina.
    They are simply sub humans, Finnish people are considered as lover than catle, the same as we have in the present Israel.
    The ONLY difference is the scale of it, nothing else.

    Do not for a moment try to drule this down to be something about THE religion, this text have isnt even know among the Arabs them selfs, so I am verry pleased this is shown to the people.
    I know this will be a “bomb”.
    You have my deepest respect for showing the truth.

    May our lord/allah/brahman/andsoon, continue to enlighten you path forward and for you to gain wisdom.


    PS: do you know that science, quantum physics, have just confirmed the facts about matter and information/spinn/energy/whatever, can separate, and that time/matter is infact secondary, consciousness is primary, the effect is labeled The Cheshire cat effect, fro Alice in Wounderland.

  • kinky

    That instruction was for protecting Christians who refrained from backstabbing the Muslims and honored the treaties. That was 1400 years ago and is not applicable for Christians who have pledged slavery to Jews and have vowed to get their children killed, their wealth siphoned and their nation raped by the land-grabbing, wealth-siphoning, organ-snatching, piggy-backing scumbags, the Chosen Ones. Fuck you Christians and fuck you Jews. You have done irrepairable damage to whatever good faith was left between Muslims and Slaves (Christians) by the way of that 1400 year-old instruction. While you wave that achtiname, be informed that Muslims are not required to show any liniency to enemies, specially the Slaves and their Masters. It’s Quranic direction to Muslims to chase, ambush and destroy the enemies, wherever they can be grabbed. Christians and Jews have proved beyond an iota of doubt for the last six fucking decades that they are enemies of Muslims, as they have killed millions and destroyed nations after nations. So take your bullshit elsewhere. Take it to your very own ISIS and preach there. Once again, fuck you Christians.

    • 1stworlder

      Considering Moo ham mads greatest victory came from breaking a peace treaty in the middle of the night do you really want to bring treaties up?

      • Christopher Carnell

        I love how the so called mooslims love to lose their shit and start mouthing off insults and hate speech once their bullshit has been found out.

    • 1stworlder

      Do you know why Muslims stone gays to death and mutilate little girls genitals?
      One day Moo ham mads oldest wife hit puberty and he realized the gays where correct about his Penis being smaller than what is now cut off little girls. Now you know why pig tails are offensive as well.

      • BobTrent

        The Qur’an does not teach mutilation of females’ genitals.

        “Female Genital Mutilation occurs in non-Muslim societies in Africa and is practiced by Christians, Muslims and Animists alike. In Egypt, where perhaps 97 percent of girls suffer genital mutilation, both Christian [African Catholics] Copts and Muslims are complicit. Thus, it has long been concluded to be a cultural practice, not connected to religion.”

        “Today, the Grand Mufti of Egypt Ali Gomarsays: ‘The practice must be stopped in support of one of the highest values of Islam, namely to do no harm to another – in accordance with the commandment of the Prophet Mohammed “Accept no harm and do no harm to another.’ This is echoed by many other Islamic scholars who have released Fatwas against FGM…”

        “While there is no mention of FGM in the Quran, a Hadith (saying about the life of the prophet) recounts a debate between Muhammed and Um Habibah (or Um ‘Atiyyah). This woman, known as an exciser of female slaves, was one of a group of women who had immigrated with Muhammed. Having seen her, Muhammad asked her if she kept practicing her profession. She answered affirmatively, adding: ‘unless it is forbidden, and you order me to stop doing it.’ Muhammed replied: ‘Yes, it is allowed. Come closer so I can teach you: if you cut, do not overdo it, because it brings more radiance to the face, and it is more pleasant for the husband.’”

        Many of these Hadiths are in doubt as to their authenticity. Even if this one is not in doubt, a mere comment by Mohammed is not the word of “Allah.”

        “The late [Shi’ite] Grand Ayatollah Fadlallah of Lebanon opposed FGM. He reasoned: ‘Circumcision of women is not an Islamic rule or permission; rather it was an Arab ritual before Islam. There are many Hadiths that connote the negative attitude of Islam as to this ritual. However, Islam did not forbid it at that time because it was not possible to suddenly forbid a ritual with strong roots in Arabic culture; rather it preferred to gradually express its negative opinions. This is how Islam treated slavery as well.’” This last is BS. Slavery is alive and well in closed Islamic societies. They justify it by the fact that Mohammed not only owned slaves but was a slave trader. If Muhammad wiped his ass with his left hand, all Muslims must do alike.

        Muslims do not stone all homosexuals to death. It is well known that homosexuality is very common among Muslim upper classes.

        “When Mehmed conquered Constantinople in 1453, the Muslim general demanded the 14-year-old son of one of the city’s Christian leaders as his sexual concubine (the father and son chose death instead). Subsequent Ottoman administrators also engaged in homosexuality, often with the boys of conquered populations who could not afford to satisfy the jizya (poll tax on non-Muslims) in any other way than to relinquish their own children to the Religion of Peace.”

        “In 2012, a cleric issues a fatwa endorsing sodomy as a means of widening the anus in order to pack it with enough explosives to kill bystanders in a suicide bombing. As Sheikh Abu al-Dema al-Qasab put it, ‘Jihad comes first, for it is the pinnacle of Islam, and if the pinnacle of Islam can only be achieved through sodomy, then there is no wrong in it.'”

        A sure cure for hemorrhoids. And constipation.

        You’ll enjoy

    • BobTrent

      Name a single Christian who has done any of these vile acts you blanket accuse us of doing. I will show you that this person is no Christian at all as defined by the New Testament. A CINO (Christian In Name Only) but no Christian, a disciple of Jesus Christ.

  • Jed

    The author’s version of injunctive or prescriptive Islam is beside the point. Islam is what muslims do. The times reports “ordinary arabs” participating in efforts towards genocidal slaughter. And that, not some pretty manuscript purportedly from the 7th century, is the sum and substance of it.

  • truthtime

    Just remember who the people are that prop up and support extremists in the Middle East. The Axis Powers – U.S., Saudi Arabia, and Israel. They are proxy armies and the “dogs of war.” They then turn around and seemingly “turn on” their dogs of war and claim ignorance, hypocritically stating that they fight a “war on terrorism.” When in fact, it conveniently lines the pockets of oil tycoons and continually arming people so the Defense Industry can make some bucks in a cyclical process.

    • MCB

      Exactly! TPTB finally figured out that it’s a better PR move to build a proxy army and cheaper too than boots on the ground. The MSM is full of imbeciles that can’t manage more the one or two big headlines at a time. No one gives a damn about dead, rabid, feral proxy army soldiers, but now we deal with the double edged sword as these proxy armies are extremely difficult to control and if they turn on you… well… just look at what’s happening now. More and more chaos.

      “For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat and wrong.” – H. L. Mencken

  • barbara timperley

    Thanks so much for this …as a non-denominational I have read the Qur’an twice and found this is the truth according to Muhammad(PBUH)

  • peaceForAll

    This document is a fake, it was probably written ~1000AD. Certainly not by Mohammed. This was discussed 1918 in a German book:

    • disqus_3BrONUAJno

      Someone as learned as yourself must have participated in the Neo-conservative translation of the Qur’an.

  • jarhead1969

    This article is an absolute lie – Islam teaches all must “convert or die” that they have to have their head, hands, etc, cut off from their bodies, it is a religion of absolute unadulterated hate and violence – and if any say’s otherwise they are either ignorant of the Koran or are some “useful idiot” Muslims with the IQ of a goat.

    I refer all in here to go to and read: “The History of Muhammad & Islam” here you will find a sentence by sentence read of the Koran, all the teaching promoting violence, rape, murder are all in here.

    You see, the first part of the Koran was when the Mohammed had to be careful what he taught as they had not as yet established a power base or absolute authority, later Mohammed explains this and drops the pretense thus then teaching the violence of Islam “convert or die” and “kill them all”, also establishing to all of Islam that his “second teaching” trump and supersede his first teachings.

  • hvaiallverden

    We will await the answer from the Choosenits about this statment if they can, and is this “cutt and Paist” as you do correct or is this a lie.
    Do enlighten us “jews”.

    That the Jewish nation is the only nation selected by
    God, while all the remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.
    That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish
    nation, which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples.
    An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards
    people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable
    to himself or to Jews in general.
    A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which
    should not be perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat, 348

    Tell Me, Jews/ZioNazis/Babbylonian talmud diggers whom have Baal as their Lord, is this a lie, and why dont you show us something sepsific to contradicts the teachings/haddits of Muhammad(pbwh) as to Yeshua(pbwh), do enlighten us all Choosenits/aka the Jews, whom is NOT from Palestina.

    Israel is a complet fabrication, since the letters use isnt in the Semittic language. and the notions of Jew is even wurse a fabrication, and Judea havent anything to do with Jews what so ever, even the Israeli arceological comunety ahevtn been able to digg up a f… pottery that shows us anything, and even less about “israel”. this is a frad that is done by the and of amerikan “jews” or the utterly bonkers JudeoChristians. Whom is spitting the word and deeds of Yeshua in the face.
    And the Vatican, whom is the sprouser of lies, and their forgerys of christianity.
    Read the Gospel of Barnabas, thats why, they choosed him insatead of Yeshua.
    And read the Gosple of thomas.
    The rest of fals teachings and should be thrown into and flushed down the toilet, where it belongs.

    DO not tewmpt to fight boy of your arent able to follow thrue woth better arguments nor sites to show us it all, I have read how the Zioturds deprivate and make the teachings of Yeshua to be about Pedofili, Murder and molestings of others, so the same “truthers” is able to do it with Islam.
    And this goes ot you all, and it still baffels me, the inability to see the books in the contex of the culture it was wrriten in and the lifes they lived, and some of this may be uneasy to read, but child marriges where comon in Norway up to the last centurys, moustly done in the ritch peoples parts, where they consilidated their possitions and to safe gard the future of their propertys and welth, aka intermariges, as Kings/Queens/roaltys did, where they married with their own familys, age no hinderings.
    And so on.

    this drivel we have to wade thrue s comon among the Hasbaratnjiks whomalso hates the Christians, equally as the Mulism, but they use the Chrsistians as their army, since the christians are downright bilnd, and thats done deliberatly, by forging the Bible.
    Do you want a fight, scum, just bring it on.
    Anytime, choosenitts, anytime.


    • Christopher Carnell

      Nice to see a Muslims true colors. Bring more insults, it adds so much credence to every word you say.

  • Lorin Chane Partain

    Unlike Jesus, Muhammad contradicts himself.

  • Chuck B

    All religions are a joke. How about the millions in the US convicted of using marijuana. If there is trial at all everyone must swear in court on the bible which says God gave this plant to the people. Religions just serve to prop the state. Bollocks.

    • BobTrent

      No USA court requires anyone to swear on the, or a, Bible. If any judge does so, s/he risks a complaint filed with the Bar association and the supreme (highest) court of the state (NY calls its lowest courts “supreme” just to be weird).
      The Bible forbids swearing on it or anything. Matthew 5:34, James 5:12
      Nowhere in the Bible is smoking anything specifically prohibited. If one believes smoking anything or certain things to be harmful, then that person should read 1 Corinthians 6:18. This passage refers to fornication, calling it a sin against one’s own body. The same principle MIGHT BE invoked against other practices that harm one’s own body.
      Please feel free to smoke anything you want, all you want. Just not in my car, my house, and also please don’t exhale. I don’t appreciate smokers’ generosity in sharing their used smoke. Keep it to yourself. I’ll try not to fart upwind of you. Deal?
      Also, please don’t crash into me when you are driving under the influence of mind-altering substances. I’d appreciate it.

  • massine

    This document can not be true. The reason is the following: Arabic was not a written language during the times of the prophet Mohammed, The Koran was written two centuries after his death. My two cents ? document is probably fake.

    • BobTrent

      The Qur’an is a compilation of writings on scraps of parchment, potsherds and other scraps, supposedly notes taken by Muhammad’s listeners during his “revelations.”

      “Just the opposite of the Deuteronomic Moses, Muhammad was the definitive Seal of the Prophets: no “prophet like unto me” could be expected to succeed him. Thus the Muslim faithful began to cherish and trade remembered Surahs of revelation, recording these on whatever materials came to hand, scraps of leather, papyrus leaves, parchments, potsherds, even shoulder blades of sheep. At length the first Caliph, Abu-bekr, decreed that the Surahs should be collected, and the corpus of the Koran (Qur’an) was the eventual result. Thus the Book of the Prophet was the only successor to the Prophet.”

      The collection of notes was edited as they were copied and compiled, then the scraps, bits and pieces were heaped up and burned to prevent any further contentions over what was genuine and what was not.
      The Bible is quite different. So many copies were made that it was not possible for anyone to gather them all together, be edited and then burned. Other copies previously unknown keep being discovered. Leaves of one codex, Sinaiticus, which was written between 325 and 360.were found by Tischendorf in a wastebasket in St. Catherine’s monastery near Mount Sinai.

  • Ivory

    All religion is f’***d in the f’***ing head!! and needs to be abolished, because all it does is create fear and antagonism. and all religions contradict each other and further separate people from one another, because of this none of them can possibly be correct. somethings missing big time.

    • BobTrent

      Christianity is blamed for every crime ever committed by every criminal who ever pretended to be a Christian.

  • Man on the street

    Mo beheaded a guy in front of his wife, then raped the wife.

  • Viking Tourist

    This is inaccurate. The ”sunna’s” this article refers, are earlier ”Mecca sunna’s” and the latter ”Medina sunna’s” which are considered the predatorial ones bypass these old rantings in the eyes of the Moslims because the latter ones are considered holy’er. So it’s 0k to kill you and take your women(if attractive) as slave according to Quran. Typical liberal bollocks.

  • David

    This copy is not authentic. No real scholar of islam will ever use this as a testimony of sayings by Muhammad. Its a ridiculous cowardly attempt to promote islam. This document heavily contradicts the Quran, which states clearly to kill jews and christians until they subdue themselves (chapter 9 verses 29 and 30). The Quran also clearly states not to take friends among the jews and christians (chapter 5 verse 51) and it clearly states that muslims are merciful amongst themselves and harsh against the disbelievers (chapter 48 verse 29). Check these verses out if you have any dignity.

    • Muslim

      David, actually this is very Authentic peice of Islamic history and Tradition. I know you dont like it because it does not fit your Contrived narative about islam and muslim. Clearly you dont know any Muslim scholar and therefore dont know their position regarding this letter.
      Your cherry picking of the Quran and translating of these verses out of Context, says alot about your lack of credibility and your bias against muslims. The Prophet (Peace and Blessing be upon Him) pioneered the protection of Minorities in Madina through the Constitution of Madinah, a written documents which ensured freedom of religion for jews and christians in the city.
      Fact is we dont need to promote Islam, islam promotes itself everywhere in the globe.

      • Christopher Carnell

        Funny, since he’s actually quoting from the Quran itself and not some bull garbage Hadith that came along long after Mohammads death.. Also funny considering that document didn’t exist until the 1400s and the Aramaic style of it wasn’t used back in the 600s. Sorry, but it’s more fake than Obamas attempts to be a good American president. Also Islam promotes itself as a religion of hate and hypocrisy well enough, you are absolutely right in that regard. I love how you say he is taking it out of context, but you do nothing to give the RIGHT context, so I will do it FOR you. The proper context is that it is permissible to do these abominable things to those who DO NOT HAVE A TREATY with you or are not under the Muslim state’s protection, but everyone else is fair game and Muslims can cherry pick who they do and do not wish to have a treaty with. Cheers, ya misleading twit. Invading a country that does not have a treaty or is under Muslim rule and slaughtering away is why you have so many terrorists giving the majority of Muslims a bad name. They aren’t going against Quran scripture, they are using the perfect loophole.

        • BobTrent

          Citing excerpts from the Qur’an by reference is hardly taking them “out of context.” What do you expect? Quote entire suras in blog posts?

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  • daytondick

    All religions are full of hypocrites and sinners! The point of religion is to repent and try to be a better person. They regularly fail. I personally try to be a good person, without religion, because it makes my community a better place to live.

  • james of senegal

    Its the mossad stupid.They have even coverted the cia.These guys are the bastards who have the world’s inhabitants hating each other.Think people and unite against these low lifes.

    • Christopher Carnell

      Usual jihadi propaganda. Throw ignorant spiteful insults and cast off all blame onto one organization or group of people, then rile people up to perpetrate violence. Know who else acted that way? The nazis. Are you a nazi? Way to promote the religion of peace and tolerance, ya hateful tool. I don’t need to listen to Israeli intelligence propaganda. I just have to open my eyes and see childrens heads on pikes.

  • ZeroSum1

    “the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn’t exist.”, Same as with Religion who has Corrupted and allowed hypocrites and glory seekers to rewrite the word of god, There is no true religion on this planet until the savior comes to restore his kingdom and restore the true teaching among all men and every knee will bow. Muhammad’s mother was cast out by Abraham where the new tribe originates and teaches the transverse view of Abraham teachings therefore are false teachings. The Catholic Church being of political Corruption during the roman empire Found weakness in man through his faith and Destroyed what they felt as a political threat and imposed a new form of the scriptures as the christian faith therefore is also False teachings. Every Religious Church must understand that the religeious foundation is based on manipulated word of a Man who seeks blind faith of men. Spiritualist like myself believe in a God, but we understand that The Corruption of man has destroyed, disassembled and manipulated the holly word given by god.

    • Aasiyah Sattar

      Mohammed’s (saw)mother cast out by Abraham ? How can that be, when six hundred years after the birth of Jesus Christ (pbuh), Muhummed (pbuh) the Messenger of God was born.
      So clearly you have no knowledge about Islam, even so Muhammed (saw) was the final messenger and prior to his existence these were the prophets that preceded him :

      Prophet Adam
      Prophet Idris (Enoch)
      Prophet Nuh (Noah)
      Prophet Hud
      Prophet Salih
      Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham)
      Prophet Isma’il (Ishmael)
      Prophet Ishaq
      Prophet Yaqub (Jacob)
      Prophet Lot (Lut)
      Prophet Yusuf (Joseph)
      Prophet Job (Ayoub)
      Prophet Dhul – Kifl
      Prophet Yunus (Jonah)
      Prophets Musa (Moses) and Harun (Aaron)
      Prophet Hizqeel (Ezekiel)
      Prophet Elisha (Elyas)
      Prophet Shammil (Samuel)
      Prophet Dawud (David)
      Prophet Sulaiman (Solomon)
      Prophet Shia (Isaiah)
      Prophet Aramaya (Jeremiah)
      Prophet Daniel
      Prophet Uzair (Ezra)
      Prophet Zakariyah (Zechariah)
      Prophet Yahya (John)
      Prophet Isa (Jesus)
      Prophet Muhammad

      That’s one long list of prophets before the final prophet. I doubt the prophet Mohammed (saw)mother had been immortal to have lived that long to be cast out by Abraham who lived thousands of years before . In any case Mohammed and his life is not mentioned in the Quraan, other then him bringing down the final revelation to muslims.
      If Muhammed (saw) is evidently a false prophet, I ask you ,why would a man take up a task of preaching what’s already been written? Why would he endure the pain and suffering that the arabs (his own people )had put him through to convince people of a book that has his name mentioned only five times. Four times as Muhammad and once as Ahmad.
      (Quran, chapter 61, verse 6)

      Furthermore, the Holy Qur’an contains or mentions many matters relating to
      the nature of the universe which were unknown to man before but which
      subsequently through evolution and discoveries of Science have fully
      confirmed – a field where an untutored mind would have most certainly lost
      in wild and contradictory speculations!

      Maybe your religious beliefs were manipulated but mine were brought on written evidence and truth that God truly exists

    • BobTrent

      “If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless. Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.” — James 1:26, 27

  • James Edward Nuxoll

    Protecting ones self over greedy mashociost who desire oil over life

  • ISIS is a symptom of a disease called Islam

    Islam Is The Problem CLICK HERE

    Less Muslims = A Better World

  • Christopher Carnell

    Good ole hadiths and achtiname stones, always coming along warping the Quran to say this or that or whatever suits their needs at the time. The achtiname of Muhammad wasn’t known to exist until the 1400s. The style it is written in wasn’t the style used by Muhammad. There are more scriptures in the Quran and accompanying texts calling for the slaughter of all non Muslims than there are peaceful ones. Prove me wrong. I’ll wait.

    • Aasiyah Sattar

      Punishments (hudood) are only a very small part of sharia law. We need to remove these misunderstandings. First, there are four punishments in sharia law:
      Punishment for sex outside of marriage
      Punishment for false accusation (one who accuses a man or woman of having sex outside of marriage who is unable to produce four just, trustworthy witnesses to the physical act of penetration)
      Punishment for greater theft (rebellion)
      Punishment for theft.
       So, we have four punishments, and also retribution (an eye for an eye). There are ten verses in the Qur’an that announce these punishments and retribution. Two are from Surah al-Baqarah, four from Surah al-Maidah, four from Surah an-Noor. That’s ten verses. Ten verses from a total 6236 verses mention these punishments. So, why do pundits and commentators leave 6226 verses and only discuss these ten verses? In fact, the whole of the Qur’an is sharia law, and this includes belief, worship, morals, and etiquette.

  • Nancy Martell

    I have read the Holy Bible and now reading the Koran. I understand it very much.

  • After the arrival of Jesus, the philosophers or “ethical innovative”, had to compare with him. For some was ally, for others neutral and for other an insurmountable obstacle. History testifies that the harshest competitors didn’t have the hoped fortunes, but they picked up the blame of the posterity that from their ambitions inherited only ruin. They built the own life purpose by discrediting Jesus and contributing to the worse anti-Semitism. For Hebrews their death began a suffering path long two millennium and the Marxism, guilty to have tried “to kill him” conceptually, has been also theirs worse promoter of image. The “guru” Korean Sun Myung Moon, is their emulator of the twentieth century, stretched out in the attempt to rise as fulcrum of history in age sprinkled of hopes and disappointments and anxious of new myths! In this book you found analysis and evaluations on characters that even though lived in very distant historical moments, are similar in purpose and in the immoderate ambition to replace the Christ.


  • kickindachickin

    MuhamMad was buttering up Christians for the ultimate slaughter. This is a BULLSHIT article!

  • Anniyah

    SausageUp: “Thou Shalt Not Kill” is also in the Quran as well as the remaining nine commandments, plus more. Muslims have not forgotten anything at all. The media throw oil in the fire with part-truths and outright lies. For example, Boko haram are sponsored by the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN). See Nigerian newspapers to get the truth. Let your fingers do the googling and read only the credible. That is just one example of many.

  • LogicalAthiest

    is an athiest welcomed here :3 ? If so,fuck both of your religions if you support ‘honour killing’.That’s just a pathetic excuse for a murder.Luckily,the ‘more developed’ countries do not support this barbaric action :).

    • BobTrent

      In relation to Christianity, this is a straw man. Neither Jesus Christ, Founder of our religion as the successor to Judaism, nor any of His messengers taught anything favoring “honor” killing. We do not accept making up a fake example, even with an “if,” to use against our faith.

  • Veritasss

    626 AD …

    Hmmm…this would have been from the Mecca days, when Muhammad was weak and just starting out; he was trying to win over converts among the Christians and Jews in the area. The chronologically later verses in the Quran, those from the Medina days, really do order killings of non-Muslims (though Americans and ‘Peaceful’ Muslims are rarely shown those verses). Devout jihadis know the latter verses abrogate, or replace, the earlier ones, and therein lies the problem. Islam promotes both peace and violence. It’s one thing to claim the teachings in Islam are dangerous (they can be) and another to educate yourself as to WHY they are dangerous. If you haven’t done your homework, your voice is no better than an opinion.

    NOTE: Islam came about as a bedouin (quasi-)fascist political system promoted as a religion because that is what it took to unite the warring tribes in 6th century Arabia. For starters, Islam’s god is not the God of Abraham, nor is the religion Abrahamic (based on the teachings of Abraham). Muhammad just had to make that claim to gain converts among the many Jews and Christians living in Arabia at the time. Want proof? Abraham and his son Ishmael lived about 2400 years before Muhammad; yet Islamic scholars cite 40 generations between Abraham and Muhammad. Do the math. That’s a logic fail. Also look up when the Kaaba was built. The Quran claims it was built by Abraham and his son (who lived 2400 years before Muhammad); yet archaeology proves the Kaaba was built only a couple hundred years before Muhammad. Look up the archaeology of the Kaaba.

    So is the Quran the word of God? Hardly. The teachings in the Islamic trinity (Quran, Hadiths, Sira) are wholly unsupported. The only ‘TRUTH’ in Islam is that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. On the bright side, the teachings support monotheism, build community, and promote charity among believers.

    Allah is NOT the same God that the Jews and Christians worship. There is no continuity in teachings, prophecy, salvation, or intent. Look up anything by Bill Warner on youtube related to Islam–that’ll give you a quick fact-based overview.

  • Gerald Leddin

    I only have one thing to say here, it’s not what people believe, it’s how they are misled, propaganda from most major news agencies all around the world that serve their masters, their masters are the global banking families who finance global corporations, with OIL being the biggest driving force of all the conflict going on, globalists are divvying up resources and driving people against one another…

  • Brass

    Muslims are allowed to break treaties with non-Muslims as non-Muslims are animals.

    • kimyo

      americans aren’t particularly good at upholding treaties as well. since the rules don’t apply to us, we get to torture some folks, drone some folks, start wars against those who pose no threat to us.

      • BobTrent

        My antcestors stole this land from the aborigines fair and square. So there. “Run all the griz and Injines off’n the land and it’s yours.” Many of the abos allied with the whites against other abo tribes. While Old Hickory was driving many Cherokees westward, other whites were reserving thousands of acres in the Smokies for other Cherokees, where many of their descendants live today.
        American aborigines broke treaties with other abo tribes. Human beings are just plain treacherous.
        Treaties are just holding patterns until the decisive blow can be prepared.

  • Bill buzzard

    Pat Robertson was right-muslim religion is gutter religion…what religion is it that cuts off heads and feet and hands for about any infractions the head honcho deams fit? Maybe the islam faith needs a little Martin Luthur don”t you think..noticed it never says love thy neighbor..and if he does not love allah kill him.. oh yea thats what I want and probley about 300 millions people in the USA..These people should go back to the middle east and practice all the chopping off they want.. none obey our laws and want to asimilate into our way of life in america.. they want to take over..guess what? It aint happening.

  • friendlykamustaka

    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Quran 9:29)

    “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.”

    “If they (Christians and Jews) refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.”
    Sahih Muslim (19:4294)
    “Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya (i.e. tribute); and our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says:– “Whoever amongst us is killed (i.e. martyred), shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever amongst us remain alive, shall become your master.”
    Sahih Bukhari ( 53:386)

    There are more hadith which contradict what is claimed in the article. Which merely proves that Muhammad was a mixed-up individual. Anyone who has studied Islam will be aware of the law of abrogation, whereby, if there is a clear contradiction, it is the LATER statement that applies. It should be noted by everyone that the hadiths I have quoted (and there are more) all POST-DATE The Achtiname of Muhammad (626), and therefore abrogate what is contained therein.

  • Steve

    The fact is there are a lot of so-called moderates who are really islamists and often “go rogue” in terrorist acts or otherwise they do their dirty work quietly undermining the west in support of islamists. Polls have proven this support and many examples terrorists acts from within the so-called moderates have occurred. It is unknown just how many mosques in the west are supporting islamists but it again is reflected in polls of muslim opinion. This creates a gray area that will continue to confuse just who is who and so-called moderates not distancing themselves enough and often courting associations with islamists are only inviting trouble and should not complain about phobia attitudes when there’s is callous disregard for others in a country that they have come to supposedly wanting to live in peace.

  • robin


  • Libertybelle

    Oh dear, the delusions are rampant.

    First of all, Adam and Eve are proof Islam is a fraud. There are no multiple wives from the beginning, except from the line of Cain, a murderer. Noah and his one wife. His sons and each of their wives. The New Testament and the teachings of Christ lead only to one man and one wife. Even the Koran honors Jesus. Yet it ignores his teaching.

    Also, if Christians attack Muslims, Muslims are permitted by Islam to respond in kind. So there is no solid rule to protect Christians. Christians are dhimmis, or second class citizens ALWAYS. They are to be taxed for not being Muslims. And Muslins are not to be taxed like Christians and infidels.

    No one in their right mind considers this benevolent nor just.

    Mohammad kept and repeated raped a Christians woman against her will for the duration of his “marriage” to her. He raped many women (sex slaves). Allah sanctified it and anyone defending Islam defends rape and sexual slavery.

    Not to mention adult sex with a female child as the learned and revered muslin scholar Bukhari wrote.

    ISIS considers the attacks in their lands to be by Christian nations/peoples. They are, by the laws of Mohammad, absolved from protecting any Christians in their territories because they view the world by religion, not by nations. They view the world in two territories: dar Al Islam and dar Al

    This is a communistic mentality of universal polity. And it is totalitarian and brutish.

    Peaceful and gentle Muslims are disobedient to Allah. The violent ones, as Mohammad pointed out, are the more righteous believers.

    It is vile.

    • Aasiyah Sattar

      Mohammad kept and repeated raped a Christians woman against her will for the duration of his “marriage” to her. He raped many women (sex slaves). Allah sanctified it and anyone defending Islam defends rape and sexual slavery.
      Not to mention adult sex with a female child as the learned and revered muslin scholar Bukhari wrote.
      Sounds like you got your info straight out of a South Park comic book..which christian women was this? Any fictatious name you could quickly bullshit me with? Raped sex slaves LOL..that’s a new one I’ve never heard before..Good attempt but poorly misinformed..Sounds like it was written by someone whose anger overshadowed his intellect, end result stupid worthless information which seemed to have originated from his rectum..Which was is by far the worst piece of crap to be created, which I’ve read thus far..and I’ve read thousands of useless crap created out of hatred for muslims..
      Firstly with your illiterate statement of my prophet’s marriages let’s try to educate you before your common sense is completely lost in fiction.

      First of all :
      Aisha’s parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practised.  And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married.  Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet’s marriage was:
      People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia.   They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum.  So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.
      Marriage for young girls was widely practised among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries. 
      Child brides as young as 8 (eight) were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility!!

      “In 1895, the age of consent in Delaware was 7, according to an article in The New York Times (
      “PURITY CONGRESS MEETS; A Great Gathering for Moral Work in the City of Baltimore. AIMS AND OBJECTS OF THE MOVEMENT Determined to Prevent State Regulation of Vice and to Rescue Fallen Men and Fallen Women.”. The New York Times (BALTIMORE, Oct. 14.). October 15, 1895.
      The minimum age for marriage in the US-State of Delaware in year 1880 was 7
      The following was taken from,

      “Age of Consent Laws ” in Children and Youth in History, Item (accessed March 2, 2013). Annotated by Stephen Robertson.
      And the polytheist trinitarian pagans have the nerve to speak about pedophilia? 
      Never forget also that according to the Roman Catholics’ Encyclopedia “New Advent”, Mary was as young as 12 when she married 99-year old Joseph.  This means that she was around 11 when she got pregnant with Jesus.  Visit:
      Also, Emperors and even Bible Prophets married girls as young as 8. 
      Furthermore, according to the Jewish Talmud, Prophet Moses and his followers had sex with girls as young as 3 years old Yes, THREE years old.  You read it right. 
      It is important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic days used to be married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off.  In other words, when they turn into “women”, then they get married off.  It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life.  So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married.  The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage. 
      That is why you see girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as 30 or even older.  The culture back then and in many third world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite different than what you live in today.
      Prophet Muhammad’s marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!
      So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.
      The pedophilia in the bible was quite different, because girls were raped at 3-years of age by Moses and his men.
      Also, in Exodus 21:7-11 as further elaborated , girls were sold off as slave girls by their own fathers to other men.  So most certainly, no one is qualified to call the Prophet of Islam a pedophile!

      *** X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.

      Young girls in the Bible and Jewish Talmud.  Let’s look at two main points in the Bible:
      1-  3-year old slave girls were forced into sex under the Mosaic Law in the Bible.
      2-  Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls to other men in the Bible.
      1-  3-year old slave girls were forced into sex under the Mosaic Law in the Bible:
      Is the GOD of Israel also known as a pedophile?
      “[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man…….of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [among them were virgin girls].”

      Even though GOD Almighty’s share of the 32 virgin girls is metaphoric, meaning that He didn’t come down and have sex with them, but if any wants to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile or womanizer for marrying (his best friend’s daughter with both her parents’ approval) a young girl and marrying multiple women throughout his life, then he should not only call his Biblical Prophets as such, but also the GOD of Israel Himself!
      Also today, the Jewish law for marriage sets the age of consent for females at 11. (Consent is only one way of marriage) I do not know if modern Jewish law still allows (in theory) betrothal by intercourse as it was practised in ancient times.
      Thirty years ago, the renowned sexologist R.E.L. Masters and Allan Edwardes said in their study of Afro-Asian sexual expression (_The Cradle of Erotica_, Julian Press, New York:1962) said, “Today, in many parts of North Africa, Arabia, and India, girls are wedded and bedded between the ages of five and nine; and no self-respecting female remains unmarried beyond the age of puberty.” Also, the age consent in the US and Europe only 100 years ago for girls’ marriage was as little as 10, and some popular men figures married little girls who were as young as their daughters.  
      Exodus 21:7-11
      7. “If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
      8. “If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
      9. “If he designates her for his son “his son” means that the master is either her father’s age or even much older!, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
      10. “If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
      11. “If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.
      First of all, did the daughter have any choice to be sold off by her father, married off by her master to either himself or his son?  No!
      Also, the fact that the master can either marry her or marry her off to his son, means that MOST LIKELY, SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER’S AGE and younger than his son!!  So he’s probably at least 30+ years older than her.  Yet, he himself (her father’s age or even MUCH older) can marry her. The fact that there is no AGE LIMIT to how girls in the Bible were sold off and married off to other men, WITHOUT ANY CHOICE, who were much much older than them as also the case with the Biblical Prophets who married 100s of wives each clearly proves the hypocrisy of some Christians who attack Islam through Aisha’s very young age, while they clearly ignore the same fact in their own Bible.  Here is a sample of the 100s of wives of the Biblical Prophets:
      In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.
      In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.
      In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
      In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon’s son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.
      Aisha was “9” when she married our Prophet.  If this is weird or unacceptable to you, then are BOTH HER PARENTS and the whole Arabs’ culture BACK THEN also guilty for giving her and others like her in marriage to other men, 1500 years ago?
      Even today, girls in many third-world countries are married off at the same or similar age.  Also, it is believed by many Jews and Roman Catholics that Mary was 12 – 14 when she had Jesus.   Also as I said, the Biblical Prophets who had 100s of wives each most probably married young girls as well.
      Also, what about Aisha’s PARENTS?   Didn’t they see it right and fit to marry their daughter at that age and at that time?
      “Firstly – if the marriage of Aisha (RA) was something which was despicable even at that time and in that culture, this fact would never have been recorded for posterity and all efforts to conceal or cloud it would have been undertaken.
      But the fact that hadith’s had reached us after it was recorded centuries ago and to all the Muslim generations in between proved that the marriage was culturally and morally acceptable and the fact is also that the Muslim community at that time remained unshakened in its faith in his Prophethood and the message which he had brought bear testimony to this assertion.
      Secondly – look at the life of Aisha (RA) afterwards.  She was without doubt one of the foremost scholars of Islam. It is said that she had attained in her lifetime the position of Mufti – (someone capable of giving religious rulings) – a position very few Muslims will ever occupy.
      She was seeked by many, both men and women, who hungered for knowledge and they came to her from all directions, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria. History does not know of any woman who was approached by so many for such a noble purpose.
      If indeed she had became a victim of sexual abuse she would in most probability be devastated emotionally, psychologically, mentally and perhaps even physically but the achievements she had made in her life after the death of the Prophet proved that she was a woman who was in complete control of her faculties, becoming one of the intellectual giants of Islam.
      And the fact that she had spoken so dearly of the Prophet was indicative of the innocence of the marriage and of the impeccable character of her husband because given the trust enjoyed by her by the virtue of her relationship with him, she could have unleashed a vengeful attack against him by attributing to him words or deeds of horrendous nature if indeed she was a victim of his supposed lust, destroying both the Prophet and Islam.
      No sexual abuse victim would ever spoke positively of her attacker, much less becoming a channel that promote love and understanding of him and the message which he had brought.”

      Your uneducated statement which proves your lack in knowledge in regards to religion, I pity you really.

  • Haroon Akhar

    My dear friend,

    If this is the angle you see Islam, I doubt I can add anything to make you change your views, it will take too long to show you another perspective or should I say the truth, and to be honest I’m not a scholar or very eloquent in speech or writing. Please remember it is a very primitive way to see any race, religion as entirely good or bad, most are proportions of good and bad, we are humans and we turn out how we are according to what choices we make in life.

    Muslims don’t equal evil, terrorists and so on. Honestly I can tell you as a Muslim most are to busy taking care of families and going about life in a peaceful way and hate terrorists even more than you probably do, as we are more likely to suffer as a consequence from their actions.

    If you every study the bible it almost mirrors in views with the Qur’an on most issues, Inc eating pork in the old testament, women wearing hijab, this is also a criteria for Jewish and Christian women, distribution of war booty is also mentioned in the bible.

    And no the Qur’an doesn’t teach the world is flat, the verse you quoted is out of context, I will try to explain in another email. As well as many scientific facts discovered in the Qur’an, please search the internet on science and Qur’an, the process of embryology and fetal development described in the Qur’an is also used by modern scientists as an acceptable way of demonstrating this process.

    We may differ on religion, but we shouldn’t be divided on tackling any injustice to any human on the globe, no matter what race, colour or religion he or she is.

    Mankind has done many good things in the world but also screwed up big time,we should be part of the solution not the problem.

    Please accept my apology if I have offended you in anyway.

    From your brother in humanity.

    P.S……remember hate breeds hate….

  • Mahran the Ship

    This letter written in 626 A.D., assuming it is authentic, was obviously abrogated by the “revelation” Mohammed received from Allah in 630/631 A.D. Specifically, Quran 9:29, which gave Christians three choices in life: die, convert or pay a humiliating extortion tax.

  • DiskusSux

    NO ONE will tell me WHY this is not obeyed by muslims…was it later rescinded? Why is this ignored by the majority of muslims worldwide? This document gets trotted out as proof of muslim civility, yet muslim actions worldwide speak otherwise.

    Or is the muslim faith a salad bar religion, where one only has to adhere to the parts one likes and leave the rest?

  • Comedian Gallagher

    No one here is understanding this properly. This protection only applies after the Christians are subjugated and agree to pay the poll tax–the Jizya. Christians also would never have good jobs or valuable property under this regime. This is all a lot of bunk. Most Christians would end up converting to Islam to avoid the tax. So many so, that eventually the Muslims would stop allowing conversions because the tax base would be decimated. After all why should a Muslim work if he can be supported by the Kafir?

  • ecawblog

    Unfortunately the Achtiname, otherwise known as the Covenant with the Monks of Mt Sinai, condemns itself as a forgery. Details here: