U.S. Officials: The Missile May Have Been Launched By a “Defector from The Ukrainian Military Who Was Trained To Use Similar Missile Systems”

Rampant Speculation … Few Facts

U.S. officials said earlier today that Malaysian Airlines flight 17 was probably shot down by mistake … and there was no proof that Russia was directly involved.

The Los Angeles Times reports:

U.S. intelligence agencies have so far been unable to determine the nationalities or identities of the crew that launched the missile. U.S. officials said it was possible the SA-11 was launched by a defector from the Ukrainian military who was trained to use similar missile systems.

In other words – despite the incessant beat of the war drums and false claims – the U.S. has little evidence that Russia is responsible.

Moreover, former AP and Newsweek report Robert Parry reported last week:

I’m told that some CIA analysts cite U.S. Regarding the shoot-down of the Malaysian jetliner on Thursday, I’m told that some CIA analysts cite U.S. satellite reconnaissance photos suggesting that the anti-aircraft missile that brought down Flight 17 was fired by Ukrainian troops from a government battery, not by ethnic Russian rebels who have been resisting the regime in Kiev since elected President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown on Feb. 22.

According to a source briefed on the tentative findings, the soldiers manning the battery appeared to be wearing Ukrainian uniforms and may have been drinking, since what looked like beer bottles were scattered around the site. But the source added that the information was still incomplete and the analysts did not rule out the possibility of rebel responsibility.

If true, then the U.S. might be grasping for a way to explain the Ukrainian uniforms.

As Parry writes today:

That statement about a possible “defector” might explain why some analysts thought they saw soldiers in Ukrainian army uniforms tending to the missile battery in eastern Ukraine.  But there is another obvious explanation that the U.S. intelligence community seems unwilling to accept: that the missile may have been launched by someone working for the Ukrainian military.

In other words, we may be seeing another case of the U.S. government “fixing the intelligence” around a desired policy outcome, as occurred in the run-up to war with Iraq.

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  • Dee

    Aren’t all the Ukrainians in the pro-Russian terrorist groups defectors from the Ukraine? It is either that or they’re Russians. It sounds like you are trying to throw the pro-Russian Ukrainians under the bus for no other reason but so you can say it wasn’t Russians.
    I know you guys got a job to do , generate some pro-Russian sentiment, and circulate the current cover story from the Kremlin and in this climate it really doesn’t matter what you say so you can be a creative as you want because the whole world thinks the alternative Russian theories are the biggest joke going, told by the biggest assclowns in the world .. I personally really liked the Sherlock Holmes airliner full of dead bodies one.. but I would point out that was pure MI-6 and not CIA in the TV series.

    • Dan

      Your argument contains all kinds of inconsistencies, leaps of logic, and unproven assumptions. If you think you are going to change anyone’s mind, you better up your game, because currently you are borderline pathetic.

      • Dee

        Would you mind listing by category ( ie: leaps of logic) what, in my short post, that could qualify for the flaws you list.
        Oh , I know I won’t be changing anybody’s mind on this blog, but it doesn’t seen I would have to change anybody’s mind any place else, because pretty much any place else they have figured it out and pretty much agree with me to start with.

        • mcnugget

          Everything was illogical. Like he said, up your game. It is sloppy.


    Who in they right mind will believe any thing that the psichopatic Obama LIAR in chief, say when he has been lying for 5 years? he LIE on his birth certificate, he lie on his Selective Service Registration card, he lie on his social security number, he lie on his school records, he lie on Fast and Furious, he lie in Benghazi, he lie in Obamacare, he lie in Syria chemical attack(it was his CIA trained terrorist), I can go for ever, but the sad part is the systematic and “choreographed propaganda campaign,” against Russia and Russian President Vladimir Putin, deliberately attempting to demonize Russia and Putin, watching it come from all sides as “everybody is getting into place for World War III.”and even more shamefully, how US politicians and media always provides PR support for these contrived LIES and situations. It all has backfire and explode in his face.

  • llewellynh

    Great for a Creative Writing 101 course.

  • Two things appear to be happening (in addition to the complete lack of response to legitimate questions). Media organs of the CIA mind control apparatus are now pushing the idea that the evil Russians are engaging in a ‘propaganda war”.

    “(CNN) — In the tangled aftermath of the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 disaster, two narratives have emerged — one that most of the world subscribes to, and another that Russia and the rebels are pushing.”

    This idea that “most of the world subscribes to” the baseless accusations of the emperor is just another lie. Even those hopeless souls who comment on the CNN website are far more inclined to believe the evidence offered by the Russians than they are the hot air and bombast from the likes of Marie Harf-a-brain.

    And the next thing is demonizing the people who do not blindly follow the lead of Washington/Langley.

    “Don’t forget, the mentality of Russians is to think of conspiracy theories,” said Jill Dougherty. “So when they hear something that is outrageous, they might believe it.”

    One thing that has happened over the last six or seven years, is that people who do not accept the fantasy matrix (911, muslim terrorists, Seal Team six, Obamagot Bin Laden, the shoe bomber, underwear bomber, and the liquid bomb plot) have gradually been excluded from all positions of power and influence. There is not one person working in broadcast media who could be described as a truther. No truther would join the military, the police or homeland security. No truther who happened to be a teacher, could identify herself as such for fear of losing her job, and the same is true for many millions of people in the USA.

    So the evil Russians are trying to pollute the pure and innocent minds of special indispensible US Americans with their evil propaganda war, turning them into the dreaded “Conspiracy Theorist”, who should be mocked and laughed at by all regular people.

    Looks like the Pentagon is monitoring social media, and refining their message, so that it stays close to what they think they can get away with. Interestingly, my Facebook feed has not carried a single status report from anyone (other than me) that refers to the incident in Ukraine. Strange that.

    These tactics indicate that the die has been cast, and
    official Washington will never accept any narrative other than that on which
    they have already staked their credibility. They are on a one way street, a
    highway to hell, and no deviations will be permitted.

    “We” are going to war, again.

  • Karel Babače

    kecy v noci