Top NSA Officials: U.S. Has Turned Into Stasi Germany or Soviet Union

What the Heck Happened to America?

Senior NSA executive Thomas Drake is an expert on spying in Stasi Germany … having studied it for years.

Drake told Washington’s Blog that the U.S. has adopted the Stasi model:

“Collect it all, know it all” [the NSA’s model] is actually the Stasi model. It’s not just know everything; we have to be able to keep everything that we want to know, even if we don’t know it yet.

It’s a collect it all first mentality … and then we’ll get to know it all. I call it “feeding the beast”.

I keep shuddering because I’m intimately familiar with the East German surveillance state mentality.

A lieutenant colonel for the Stasi East German’s – based upon his experience – agrees. And German Chancellor Angela Merkel – who grew up in Stasi Germany – says the NSA is exactly the same. Top American constitutional experts also say that the Obama and Bush administration are worse than the Stasi East Germans.

Senior NSA official Bill Binney – the senior technical director within the agency who headed NSA’s global digital data gathering program and managed thousands of NSA employees – is an expert on Soviet spying.

Binney spent decades studying – and trying to counter – the repressive Soviet program of mass surveillance.

Binney says that – after 9/11 – America implemented the same type of system used by the Soviets and other authoritarian regimes:

You’ve got the NSA doing all this collecting of material on all of its citizens – that’s what the SS, the Gestapo, the Stasi, the KGB, and the NKVD did.

Postscript:  Unfortunately, it’s not just spying …

In the decade after 9/11, the U.S. used specialized communist torture techniques specifically aimed at extracting  false  confessions.

Under Obama, whistleblowers and dissidents are treated as ruthlessly as in the Soviet Union.

When bad government policy leads to bad results, the U.S. government does what the Soviets did:  manipulate the data.

The Soviets had Pravda … similarly, propaganda is now being used within the U.S.  The U.S. government pumps out massive amounts of propaganda through the mainstream and “gatekeeper” alternative media, movies, video games, and other venues.

And the American economy has gone from capitalism to socialism … at least for the fatcats.

What the heck happened to American ideals?

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  • mmckinl

    “And the American economy has gone from capitalism to socialism … at least for the fatcats.”

    Wrong … we have fascism … labeling the current situation in any way “socialism” is right wing propaganda.

    • 0Washington0

      mmckinl: If you click on the link, you’ll see that socialist and fascist economies are indistinguishable in many ways … and are just like crony capitalism.

    • Ok V

      You have no idea what is socialism don’t even start. It will never happen in USA while the bankers running this country.

    • Cole

      It matters not what you label it..The U.S. will default on its debt and the government will no longer be able to fund most of its programs. Keep in mind there is no Social Security lock box…Just special bonds in a file cabinet in DC..Once the default occurs, social security ceases to exist. For every 1% rise in interest rates, the U.S. accumulates 170 billion in interest payments..a 7% interest rate in the 10 year treasury will just about bankrupt the U.S. government…

      • mmckinl

        It does indeed matter how you define the economic and social disease that is plaguing the US. The solutions come from understanding the source of the problems …

  • TheAtlanticIsPropaganda

    This should be titled “EX-Top NSA Officials: U.S. Has Turned Into Stasi Germany or Soviet Union”, and I think you know it. Binney and Drake are incredible individuals but the title here implies *current* top NSA officials. Binney, Drake and Russ Tice (to name a few) have been talking about this for a decade or more, and I thank them immensely for it. However, I clicked this link because I thought this would have been a new whistleblower, or a sitting NSA official with the utmost candor (talk about an oxymoron).

    I can’t tell you what to do, but because of titles like this, I generally avoid links from this blog and I think I’m not the only one.

  • Carl Herman

    Great 4 articles today, GW! Thank you 🙂

  • joepotato

    When you have an Islamo-Fascist usurper/fraud with the fake ID to prove it acting as a CIC even though he’s obviously a puppet, what could possibly go wrong?

    • volksnut

      tell me about it – hes just a front man – turning out to be along with everything else hes guilty of – a trojan horse – hes following the agenda hes been “hired” to implement – the destruction of this country as world leading power – globalist agenda –

  • joepotato

    When you have an Islamo-Fascist usurper/fraud with the fake ID to prove it acting as a CIC even though he’s obviously a puppet, what could possibly go wrong?

  • Lou Hodges

    Well DUH, that’s because the NSA used a senior KGB officer as a consultant in 1973, Deriabin. Deriabin defected to the CIA in the 1950s and then acted as a consultant to the NSA when they geared up operations in the 1970s – I know, because he recruited my ex husband from the Russian Department at UC Davis. The Dean of UC Davis Russian Department was a KGB operative, Valerie Tumins. She retired in her home in Washington DC. I have the declassified document showing they were there. I divorced my ex husband in 1977 when he finally took the job. Never saw him again. If you email me,, I’ll be happy to show you a copy of it, and give you the details. DUH

  • ThisObamaNation

    What went wrong?
    America has grown effete.
    We have become a stupid, lazy, fat, gullible, bunch of idiots.
    That’s what went wrong!

    • Twisk

      You have become “a stupid, lazy, fat, gullible, bunch of idiots”, you say.
      Then, how come the USA has become the most militarized country in the world? The truth is that, while the average Joe was pursuing his own consumerist vision of the “American dream” and entertained himself with Hollywood vacuousness (and, by the way, was being trained in “might is right” and “everything goes” perspectives by its ever-increasing levels of violence and dumb sex), the country was being hijacked by the military-industrial lobby. Big corporations, big money, big ultra-modern weapons ultimately paid for by taxpayers.

      How it works? Huge funds are allocated to some country (say, Egypt) ON TAXPAYERS MONEY so these countries buy, with American tax money, weapons manufactured by huge weapon corporations.
      See? The money goes out of your pocket into Egypt, and then gets back into the pockets of American private corporations. Or the Government itself buys weapons against phantom security threats. Or starts wars, which need constant buying of weapons… all with that poor sod’s money, our average Joe.
      A neat scam.
      And strictly nothing to do with commies.

  • Janet Innes-Kirkwood

    I think a lot of this when taken in its entirety and experienced in ones own personal experience that it is very disturbing to say the least. I also think it undercuts the type of world we would all want if we think about it. Some peoples’ family and business and academic and legal and political lives can span continents and stretch all sorts of places and this can be used against people or used to manipulate with or without their consent and awareness. Paranoia leads to closed down creativity driven by fear and constant self and social censorship and threat by multiple governments and misc. Pandas. Good thing Drake is speaking out….

  • dusel1

    Buck Farack and his/her supporters.

  • Cole

    The smartest move anyone could make is leaving the U.S….The smart money is doing just that and of the smart money people, the smartest money is renouncing citizenship…

  • Paul McSharry Jr

    Well, I don’t think the comparison with the Stasi is really appropriate and I’ll just mention a few of the more obvious reasons:

    1) East Germans did NOT have the Rights of Free Speech: We obviously do just by virtue of this webpage.

    2 East Germans did NOT have the Rights of Free Assembly as do citizens in the US

    3) East Germans did NOT have free access to technology as citizens in this country do: in the GDR, photocopiers and typewriters had to actually be registered with the police.

    4) Media in the GDR was state-controlled and generally state-owned while in the USA we have a myriad of privately and corporately owned newspapers, websites, radio stations and TV stations.

    5) USA citizens have the right to travel and even emigrate almost at will: in the GDR travel rights outside the East Bloc had to be ‘granted’ and you had to go through a rigorous background check to even travel to the west, often without your family. Emigration in the GDR was also tightly controlled – attempting to Emigrate without permission was a crime called “Republikflucht” punishible by 2 years in Stasi prison. Even applying for legal emigration would warrant suspicion and could also lead to a prison sentence of up to 2 years.

    I would continue but I think the above points suffice without even mentioning the vast number of personal and legal rights which citizens of the US possess but GDR citizens clearly did not.
    -Paul McSharry jr.

  • Truthtoevil!2015

    I really wish one of these whistleblowers would come out with evidence of the Stasi machine that is at work in our neighborhoods, workplaces, etc. Americans need to know that their friends, neighbors, coworkers, and others are essentially being deputized by our “security services” and “law enforcement” to keep an eye on them. All it takes is for someone to spread a rumor, and bang! you’re under the spotlight 24-7. Cops just don’t seem to be bright enough to sort out what is rumor and what is truth, and in this atmosphere of paranoia, they just KNOW that if they watch you long enough, you’re going to do something, and then they’ll be the heroes. Problem is it ruins many more lives than it saves. Google “fight gang stalking” for the best explanation of it.