America Cleanses Southeastern Ukraine of Ethnic Russians

The Western news media have not been showing the footage of this action by the U.S. Administration, but U.S. news media also covered up the Administration’s constant lies about “Saddam’s WMD” (which the U.N. had quietly verified were completely destroyed in 1998), and so Americans supported invading Iraq on the basis of outright lies, and we did so: the U.S. is no longer an authentic democracy, which requires an honest press. America is now doing something that might be even more shocking than that — outright modeled upon the Hitler-movement. The present news report is being distributed to all U.S. news media, so that we’ll all get to see which U.S. media suppress this information, and which ones break the U.S. silence about it — the first-ever blatant ethnic-cleansing program carried out in any foreign country by U.S. Government agents or under U.S. control.

 

Here are photos of what we (our nation’s appointed agents in Ukraine) have been doing since 18 February 2014, and which is being backed up by U.S. tax-dollars under the fake rubric of “national security.” These still-photos are all taken from live videos many of which the present reporter has previously provided the links to, and all of which have been checked thoroughly and verified to be authentic by this reporter, and none of these photos has been found to be doctored. The only organization that checks for doctored “evidence” regarding the situation in Ukraine is Stopfake.org, a website that was recently established by an independent group of journalism students in order to defeat propaganda that is being created and spread by both sides (almost entirely by “our” side) in the Ukrainian civil war; these students are doing this so that honest news reporting can be separated out from that which is based upon, and spreading to the public, lies. They are performing a terrific service in this matter, and all honest journalists owe them a debt of gratitude. So: here are these still shots, of what we, through our national government, have been doing, while the U.S. “news” media have been focused on other matters, and have speculated wildly in order to suggest a very different reality in Ukraine than these pictures show. Please note that all bombs that are being dropped in Ukraine come from government planes and helicopters; the residents in southeastern Ukraine have no control over the Ukrainian military; this is quite simply a war upon the people who live there, and their attempt to form their own local governments there does not empower them with any such military — they simply don’t have that:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqa0MVLIUAAw8xU.jpg:large  (The above is a composite from videos that were taken at recent bomb-sites.)

 

 

(NOTE: This particular image appeared in, and is courtesy of, Britain’s Independent.)

 

and see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEbueqqUugM

http://revolution-news.com/the-bombing-of-civilians-in-lugansk-by-the-kyiv-government-graphic-behind-ukraines-walls-of-fire-iv/

Here’s how the Western “news” media covered that bombing: http://cips.uottawa.ca/media-bias-frames-western-reporting-on-ukraine/

 

And here is how Russian TV, which is the only TV network that is covering this in the English language, is reporting the events as of June 20th:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5LCKotxwyE

 

When one looks at that Russian TV report, and listens to the victims and sees the bombed houses, the only way to not believe it would be to be assuming lots of things that are not so, because that was about the prior 24-hour’s events, and even if the doctoring of a still photo can be done fast (within 24 hours), and even if the creation of a fictional video can be very persuasive if done slow (as a major studio production with hired actors, etc.), this doesn’t look like that at all, and appeared immediately after the event. Moreover, the present reporter has researched extensively the history and events leading up to today’s reality in Ukraine, and the TV news report that is presented there on Russian TV fits 100% with that solidly documented background and history.

 

So, some of those prior news reports will be listed and linked-to here, to provide that background and history, so that a reader can understand not only why Russian Television is covering the American-run ethnic cleansing operation in southeastern Ukraine, but also why the U.S. aristocracy’s “news” media (and those of allied aristocracies) do not.

 

THE STRATEGIC BACKGROUND:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/u-s-re-started-cold-war-backstory-precipitated-ukraines-civil-war.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/indications-u-s-planning-nuclear-attack-russia.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/nato-still-exist.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/really-need-re-start-cold-war.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/ukraines-civil-war-global-historical-importance.html

 

OUR LYING “NEWS” MEDIA:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/independence-movement-southeastern-ukraine-accuses-obamas-agents-slaughter.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/videos-americans-didnt-get-see-nightly-news.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/can-americans-stand.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/propaganda-war-ukraine.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/white-house-sidesteps-fire-bombings-southeastern-ukraine.html

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/06/nyt-stenographically-reports-white-house-ukraine-lies-like-2003-iraq-u-s-invasion.html

To subscribe to, or otherwise pay for, “news” in the United States, is to purchase propaganda; it’s to pay for the “privilege” of being deceived by the national (and/or local) aristocracy. True news can be found free online, and the reader can check its sources instantly by just clicking on its links.

TV, magazines and newspapers are so passé. If one wants lies, one doesn’t have to pay to be deceived; one can just go to that operation’s website. And if one wants truth, one can get it just by checking out the links. Any news story that doesn’t have links isn’t worth reading, because lies are then being intentionally made difficult to detect.

 

The only way to avoid being deceived is to spot-check an article’s sources.

 

In the new economy, either the reader is in control, or the reader is a fool. No authentic democracy can be a nation of fools. The U.S. is no longer a democracy; the aristocracy has simply taken over. If the people don’t fight back by boycotting liars, they are willing fools and don’t care about their own country.

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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of  They’re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010,  and of  CHRIST’S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity.

 

 

 

 

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  • FailedEvolution

    Cold War 2.0: Dangerous games from Washington’s “hawks”

    http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/06/cold-war-20-dangerous-games-from_23.html

  • cettel

    To judge by the lack of reader-comments here, the readers here do not think that America’s ethnically-cleansing southeastern Ukraine of its residents is even worthy of commenting upon. Racist fascism, or Nazism, as the policy of the United States of America, isn’t even thought to be worthy of comment.

    • Dee

      More like highly skeptical of the authors agenda. Makes Fox look fair and balanced. As a minimum the author seems to be overstating the level of Direct Control Obama or the US has in all this, makes it sound as if the Ukrainians don’t have an agenda of their own, or any say in what is happening and that ethnic or political rivalries never existed until Obama started running the Ukraine. The repeated articles on the same theme are starting to sound like the “Big Lie” theory of propaganda .. repeat it often enough.. and I can see no basis to assume the author has any particular insight or access that would allow him to claim to have the one and only true truth on what is going on.
      It is simply not credible.. you can’t help but notice he mostly references his own writings and is willing to stretch and twist absolutely anything to fit his agenda.

      • http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/ Big Dan

        The #1 superpower is behind EVERYTHING, whether it’s actually our government or foreigners running our military/CIA. Do you REALLY think ANYTHING can go on around the world without us being involved?

        • Dee

          Involved? or in control?
          yeah I think a lot can go on in this world without us being in control or being responsible. Involved? We have embassy’s in almost every country so if you want to blame everything on the US, including rivalries that started long before there was a US, so long as you set your bar low enough.. embassies, maybe trade? then OMG we must be involved.
          But when the article says “We bombed”, “Obama Bombed” it sounds slanted, it doesn’t sound credible… it may be the truth as far as you are concerned .. and that is fine.. you are free to believe what you want .. And if these screes are just for the faithful , then the reason nobody is responding is because there aren’t very many of the faithful. But if they are to convince folks outside the inner circle, they are a total failure, as the very fact you have to ask the question shows.
          I’m just answering the question.. why is nobody commenting?, and I am answering just for myself. The author seems to have a wild hare up his butt about this, and 2 or 3 shills to sing the chorus to provide some positive feed back.. and nothing persuasive to sell such an overreach of a claim.
          If I really didn’t want to sound like some pro Russian tool or some old meme of liberals and socialists blaming the US for every evil in the world, I would confine my claims to things that could be actually proven and confirmed.. And I would realize there is a gap between being the “most powerful” nation on earth and the “all powerful” nation on earth.
          Are there CIA plots and conspiracies , yes, is everything that happens on the planet a CIA plot or a conspiracy.. no, Might there be alien abductions?, possibly.. is every reported alien abduction true?, no
          And that is where you have put yourself , by your story telling style and lack of confirming facts.. your are just another alien abduction story on the internet. Just another conspiracy claim on the internet.. why would anybody get upset about another conspiracy story or alien abduction being printed on the internet? It is just another “it is all America’s Fault” story on the internet.. why in God’s name would most folks ever comment on that?
          I read a lot of things I roll my eyes at, usually on websites and blogs about UFO’s and conspiracies.. they have their fan base, I read them for the fiction, looking for a good story.. doesn’t mean I believe it.. lately on here there has been a lot of the Obama as Moriarty .. I don’t like Obama because he is incompetent.. that is along way from being the Master of the Universe you guys are trying to sell… especially on foreign policy.
          Normally I wouldn’t have commented at all .. but on a couple of these articles folks were asking why nobody was commenting.. I could hear the frustration and the part about “this is being released to all the major outlets and anybody who doesn’t publish it is sold out to Obama and the CIA” .. come on , what are you guys .. 15 years old? How about it doesn’t sound credible on it’s face and there is no convincing material in the article, and I doubt any responsible outlet would publish it for the same reason the Washington Post made Woodward and Bernstein get three sources before they would publish the Watergate stuff.. basic journalistic integrity. I’m betting RT won’t even publish it, and yes, obviously by your standards, that is because Russia Today is part of a CIA conspiracy, probably Al Jazeera as well..
          Do you believe everything you read on the internet? Do you think just because it is on the internet it is true? God I hope not, but that is what you are asking of your readers unless you bring some proof .. and there is a big gap between what happened and is happening, and proving Obama is the Master of all conspiracies and in direct and total control of, and the sole reason behind what is happening in the Ukraine. I think you should start by proving Obama is competent in something.. then try and prove he is capable and competent in Foreign affairs,, then link him to the Ukraine..
          Kind of take it slow, build up the story so the reader has something to hang their suspension of disbelief on.

          • Julia

            Nobody say that Obama is bombing directly “himself”, However the matter is that bombing is performed by “revolutionary” government completely dependent from US and coming to power by very contraversial violent way (in reality not legal). Previously, there was no drastic opposition between the majority of ukrainians and russians, they lived in peace for long hystorical period, there were a lot of mixed families and so on. But during last 23 years, after the ruin of USSR, there was the strong intentional brainwashing of youth by “folk-hystory” nationalistic russophobic tales, to which the most western party of population, joined to USSR only before the World War II, naturally was especially sensitive, And now these young people (in reality the minority of the nation) were manipulated to perform this change of legal power by abuse. All this was made with strong interference of US (everybody knows that such things are quite usual for US foreign policy). So more, it is the favorite plan of such people as Soros and Bzeginsky to artificially construct from Ukraina people some “novel” slavic nation targeted against Russia (they many times rather openly told this). And now simple people who resist these not honest “geopolitical experiments” on their motherland are cruelly fired as “terrorists” by puppet US-controlled government.

          • Dee

            Julia you need to read the link to articles in the above article.. there is a constant repetition that “We bombed” ” Obama bombed” it is very much trying to tie the USA directly to the bombings and in fact all the activity in the Ukraine.

            Julia you do not know you history , well before WW2 Stalin collectivized the Ukrainian agricultural sector.. it is one of the Great genocides of human history the Holodomor by many estimates larger than Germany’s attempted extermination of the Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
            http://www.holodomorct.org/history.html http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/deleting-holodomor-ukraine-unmakes-itself Those that deny the Holodomor are at the same level as those who deny the Holocaust .. and they have had the help of the Communists in covering it up for over 75 years. http://un.mfa.gov.ua/en/documents/holodomor/un http://www.holodomor.org.uk/International_Organisations/UN_Declaration.aspx

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor_genocide_question

          • Julia

            Dee, excuse me, but it is you who completely do not understand Russian history and tragedies, which Russia had to survive in XX century. There was never “separate” nationalistic “holodomor” only for Ukrainians. The politics of collectivisiation was targeted against the whole class of individual peasants: small owners of private property and mainly Orthodox Christianity believers. Moreover, this anti-peasant war associted with tte struggle against Orthodox church and other traditional religions in Russia, the moral values of which strongly contradicted the constructers of Communist social utopia. This politics in different form began already from Lenin’s period. The first hunger happened at this period, in the first years after Lenin’s revolution. Of course there was the mixture of circumstances. The agriculture of this period was more much connected from nature conditions (rains and so on) as now – strong disasters in this field happened in Russian Empire as well. But the politics of collectivization contributed to this. During Lenin’s period there were strong rebellions of peasants in Russia (not in Ukrainian regions), supressed by Lenin power with cruelity. Stalin’ s regim is the continuation of former Lenin’s regim, which by some features was evem more cruel than Stalin. As to Lenin’s regim it replaced not stable and short period of “liberal revolution” happened during the World War I, mainly as a result of the engagement of Russian Empire into World War I. This War was initiated by Germany and some other Europian countries, Russia wanted to escape it but was not able to do it due to connections with different international units. And Western politics “helped” much for ruin of Tsar power (supported by the majoruty of peasant population) in Russia, they also supported Russian revolutionairs during war, the did nothing to save Tsar family (cruelly killed by bolshevics), so more Germany directly helped Lenin to return to Russia from immigration that created conditions for taking power by bolshevics. The “help” of foreigners to White Army fighting with communist Red Army during Civil War was not sufficient, selfish and contraversial. All nations in Russua suffered much during cataclysms of XX century, connected with two World wars and revolutions. However communist regim was different during its 70 year history; at the last post-war period it was rather strongly “authoritarian”. “ideoligy limited” and “paternalistic” then rally “tyrannic”. And it would be not just to blame communists for some “racial politics”. Communists were internationalists. They suppressed people for social and religious reasons, not “racial” and “nationalistic”. And it is impossible to devide the sufferings of two major branches of nation – Russians annd Ukrainians. Only those who are engaged in radical nationalistic ideas may do this.

          • Dee

            So you are saying that genocide for “the moral values of which strongly contradicted the constructers of Communist social utopia” (“And it would be not just to blame communists for some kind of “racism”. Communists were internationalists, not racists or nationalists. They suppressed people for social and religious reasons, not for “racial” and “nationalistic”) or social and religious reasons is okay.. and since they waged war on their own people and killed a lot of them too, it is okay in the Ukraine so long as it is not for racial or nationalistic reasons?
            Hmm Russian committing genocide for the right reasons is okay like religious reasons, like Nazis did the Jews, is okay and you say I don’t understand.. how proud you must be.. and I don’t buy the weather thing.. I think it was because the Russians stole everybody’s land. Deported the rich land owners , destroyed the ability to manage the property, just like when the Russians killed off a bunch of the Officers in the Army and devastated the intellectuals. Sorry to hear the Russians suffered the consequences of slaughtering their , and anybody other nations peoples because they didn’t like their land being stolen and they didn’t want to be communist and ruled by a foreign power. Which is what the Russians are to all the other nations around it. I don’t care if the Russians think nationalism is wrong ( and any empire run by the Russians is good) .. The people you attacked and slaughter thought that nationalism was their Right, as was their ownership and control of their own land and fields.
            I don’t care why the Russians commit genocide.. genocide is wrong. That is why other nations don’t like them much, I can only imagine what a Lithuanian must think when a Russian starts explaining how genocide for social and religious reasons is just fine, and not really a crime at all.
            Julia you are making my case for me by posting some of the most incredibly insensitive and psychopathic statements I have read since the transcripts of the Nuremburg War Crime Trials … and you don’t even have the moral compass to appreciate that.. that is incredible.. I rest my case.
            Geeze Louise..

          • Julia

            Dee, why do you try to alter the whole meaning of my words? It is not honest discussion but manipulations. This is the precise qoute from my previous post: “Communists were internationalists, not racists or nationalists. They suppressed people for social and religious reasons, not for “racial” and “nationalistic”, as it was often happened in the West ( I do not want to say that one kind of supression and cruelity is “better” than other kind). “. Read it attentively and stop oppose different parts of victims to each other.

          • Dee

            Okay you don’t want me to think you think one kind of cruelty is better than another. then why do you offer that folks were “suppressed” ( and slaughtered and had their homes and land stolen ) for social and religious reasons as what sounds like some excuse that makes sense to you and should make sense to the Ukrainians and they shouldn’t hate you guts and want nothing to do with you freaking monsters? Don’t you get that” nobody cares why you did it or didn’t do it.. you did it.. genocide, end of story, never to be trusted again by the people you did it to. Practically the whole world understands that at a visceral level, except Russia. You are offering up the same reasons that North Korea offers for their peoples starvation, that Cuba offered , That Venezuela is offering now for their food shortages. And the Russians made them starve at gun point when they stole their crops to make quota.

          • Julia

            It is no any excuse of the repressions on social reason in my post, simply I did not speak much about this issue. I think that one even may name these repressions as “social racism” (to distinduish from “ordinary” “biological racism”) because they were targeted to the whole social classes and religions. The resulting misfortunes and evil for all nations (including Russians) were enormous: the elimination of higher educated classes of Russia Empire, the almost disappearance of the whole class of traditional peasants (with its specific culture), the ruin of a lot of religoius and historical building, the enstinction of a lot of nice villages and so on (in addition to ruin made by war). I always considered this as a great tragedy, not depending on “specific nationality” of suffereing region. Moreover, had many friendly talks and discussions on these issues both with the representatives of Russian and Ukrainians old peasants, surviving all these “social reforms”, and their sad stories were very similar.

          • Julia

            P.S. In addition to previous. As regards my opinion on “nationalism”. Nobody is against healthy patriotism or love to one’s nation, which is natural human feeling, like attachment to one’s family. But there also exists radical nationalism, connected with harmful psychological complexes both of “supermacy” and hatred to others nations. It is as some kind of drug abuse, harmful to mental health and intellectual development of both individual persons and whole nations (states). The spread of this evil and dangerous infection is oftenly used in modern time by not honest and envy politics for their own interests. The proponents of such ideology use to contrapose one part of innocent victims to other, by constructing different historical myths, based ob abberrations of real tragedies and historical events.

          • Dee

            Yeah I get that nationalism that opposes occupation by Russia is like a drug and crazy .. and it just makes other nations hate Russia .. couldn’t be they hate Russia because you invade their countries and killed and kidnapped their people .. no nobody minds that .. hating another country isn’t because of anything the other country did.. it is only that evil nationalism , comes out of nowhere , just because folks think they are a separate nation and OH MY God .. some nationalist are so evil and so radical they actually fight back against invaders .. Yeah, I see what you mean.. It is okay to be proud of your nation so long as it doesn’t interfere with Russia enslaving you and stealing your country and language and customs and religions .. sounds fair

          • Julia

            Dee, if you suffer from russophobia, do not say for all nations and people. I myself might find a lot of reasons for “nationalistic” hatred for a number of nations, including Russians, because among my close relatives I have people of different nationalities. On the other hand, among my relatives there were old Russians, who’s country and culture was stolen by novel communist regim. But nevertheless none of my relatives suffered from nationalistic hatred complexes and I also do not want to follow this evil road. The life is not a “paradise”, but hatred, evil and not justice helps nothing.

          • Dee

            Okay , you are right, not all nations, how about just all the nations of the former USSR that broke away and are desperately trying to join NATO so the Russians can’t come back. Which would be just about all of them .

            And Russia doesn’t get to decide what is justice for other countries.. they will and have decided for themselves .. and it is to get as far away from Russia and as close as possible to the west.

          • Julia

            Let these nations do what they want and live as they want. I think the matter is in the interference of great “geopolitical hawks” wich do not want to collaborate but dominate. Otherwise people of different nations could more successfully contact with each others.

          • Dee

            Hmmm could that be Putin?

          • Julia

            Yes, I think the problem is rather not with Putin, but US neocon hawks.

          • Julia

            Also, do not say for all former USSR respublics, that all of them suffer from “russophobic” complexes. There was a referendum in 1991 on the consevation of USSR, and the majority of people (about 80%), including Ukraina and Asian Soviet respublics said they do not want to ruin the country into separated states (though in general people supported the idea of deep political, ideological and social reforms). The results of this choice were further completely neglected by egoistic politics wishing to devide the country to gain power (and strongly supported in this by Western “geopolitics”). But if you speak now with simple people from Asian former soviet respublcs, very many say they regret this separation. Because their level of life, educational opportunities, health system and so on became much lower. And do not compare USSR – the utopian social scientist project (based on marxist-leninist ideology) – with Western-type Emperias, based on other principles. One has to regret and try to improve one’s own “sins” but not the “sins” of others.
            I wonder, if native people (i.e., indians) would suddenly like to separate from US, whether they get such a great territory, as, for example modern Kasahstan Moreover, Kasahstan territory also includes regions historically and culturally Russian, which had been joined together with Kasah regions in one “republic” by Lenin government only after revolution, in Tsar Empire such formations being absent.
            In reality, many troubles conected with separation of former Soviet respublics also arised from the following circumstance. Gorbachev wanted to establish the special mechanism of separation from the USSR (for those Soviet respublics who wanted this). This suggested some prelmenary period, taking several years, during which all contradictions connected with common property, border problems (due to the circumstances described above) and so on would be discussed and solved. And then the separation might be performed at peaceful, not contraversional and stable basis, as it happened recently with Chechoslovakia. But radicals appeared in this period did not allow to follow this rather reasonable politics.

          • Dee

            yeah, I can see that everybody wanted to stay but left anyway .. and Russia wanted to do it slow and easy and everybody rushed off on their own , I assume because, as you said they really wanted to stay .. but slow goodbyes are so painful , so the radicals ( which I assume like those crazy sick nationalists ) want it quick and clean. Do you ever listen to your own double talk?

          • Julia

            You always want to simplify the very dramatic events and, in addition, to alter my words. The Soviet respublics were very different. Baltic wanted to separate, but Asian, Ukraina and the part of Caucasian voted for conservation of the common state in reformed form. This is the histotical fact, the results of this referundum are open. Radicals were very anxious as they always were in history, as they were in the beginning of XX centurary. as well. But then they use to blame for troubles, resulting from their anxious and not resposible behavior, the others.
            As to the erruption of USSR, it was very painful for many people for a lot of objective reasons, for example the follows. In one day, without any prelimenary preparation, due to Belovegskays Pusha agreement there was declared a number of new states in the borders of former Soviet respublics. These territories included also the parts populated by Russians. This “mixture” did not result in nationalictic conflicts during the USSR. We studied together in schools and institutions, worked together and so on (do not think about our life in “late USSR” as “nightmare”). But after so fast ruin of former USSR with its “internationalistic scientist-like ideology”, there began the rapid spread of radical nationalistic movements there, in part due to foreing influences, in part due to the use of these ideas for their interests by local ethno-elites (usually former communist elites), in part due to making free some intrinsic cultural trends (suppresed in communism-based state), it is a complex process. People need the faith, and radical nationalism serves as some kind of surrogate believes, especially in the difficult and dramatic periods. But at the ground of economical decrease and crisis, the lack of work and so on after the ruin of USSR, in many of such novel states there happened some kind of nationalistic aggressive attacks on Russian population, with engagement of young boys and men. Finding themselves under such dangerous conditions, many Russian and Ukrainian people, living there, wanted to escape from these places. But Boris Eltzin government in reality did nothing to help them to come to Russia federation. Often, there was more easy for Russians, Ukrainians, juifs and people from mixed families (there were a lot of such families in USSR) to go to America, for example, than to return to Russia from these places (I have several aquaintances and even relatives finding themselves in such situations, so I know about what I speak about).
            Then the situation became step by step more stable and calm, the local powers made efforts to stop these conflicts, but many Russians already immigrated from, i.e., Usbekistan and some other places. It was really dramatic period in the life of many people.
            But if you only want to “catch me on the word” and feed yourself by “nationalistic datura” (this is a strong “kaif” for certain people) then I think it may be would be better to stop discussion.

          • Julia

            Dee, why do you try to alter the whole meaning of my words? It is not honest discussion but manipulations. This is the precise qoute from my previous post: “Communists were internationalists, not racists or nationalists. They suppressed people for social and religious reasons, not for “racial” and “nationalistic”, as it was often happened in the West ( I do not want to say that one kind of supression and cruelity is “better” than other kind)” (the end of the quote).
            ——————-
            Read it attentively and stop contrapose different parts of innocently suffered people to each other.

          • Julia

            The last comment, Eastern Europe radical nationalsts like to blame Russians for all “sins” due the socialist period in their history. These blames might be considered just under the following condition: if Russian themselves enjoyed “fredom without limits” and at the same time kept these states as “slaves” in “prison”. In reality, communist regim in these states was much more “liberal” and “mild” than those established in USSR (though some transformation to more mild regim also consequently occured) in Soviet Union as well). So more, I know people from, in example, Eastern Germany, former students of Moscow university (there was such an exchange of students among socialis countries) which feel nostalgy for this period (70-th) of their life (it was not “nightmare” in reality). And there is one more point. The question arises: how it happened that in these Eastern Europe states there came to power local communists (certanly supported by Stalin)? It happened only for one reason: the US and allies opened second front only when Red Army was already in German. Russians soldiers would be happy to return home alive, not obliged to struggle with Germans at these territories, if US and allies would make this work for them in the given regions. They waited hoped very much for the second front, to help them. But US politics waited for Russia being exausted in bloodly battles with Germans. And only when it became clear that Russians were going to win themsleves they interfered. If they did this earlier, than there were no communist power in these states. But it is not honest to blame Russian people for this. They themselves were at this time under the drastic dictator power, as Stalin’s regim was.

          • Dee

            Your history is again flawed , The US started air bombardment and put troops ashore in North Africa while Russia was still defending Stalingrad.. US troops were ashore and moving up the Italian Peninsula and US and British Troops knocked the Italians out of the war about the time you were taking Kharkov. That was the second Front .. The Third front France was opened before the Soviets conducted Operation Bagration to liberate Belarus , The Soviets were nowhere near German soil.

            The Massive losses the Soviet Army endured were mostly self inflicted .. you killed off your professional officer corps before the war even started and you sent unarmed conscripts into combat with no training and orders to pick up a dead soldier’s rifle in order to fight.. you machine gunned them down when they broke and retreated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union..

            The reasons your losses were so high, aside from poor training and outdated tactics was the cruelty of the Soviet system, the families of captured Russian Troops suffered , the POW’s were declared traitors for being captured and their families lost all ration privileges. Because Stalin’s Order 270 refused to allow Red Cross and Geneva Convention treatment of Russian POW’s, all food packages from home were forbidden.. The treatment by Russia of the troops captured by the Germans, and their families back in Russia caused about a quarter of a million Soviet POWs to enlist in the German Army to fight Stalin

            http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/Teplyakov.html You must read this link, it is by a Russian historian, you need to understand what is says.

            in addition to the North African, Italian and French fronts The Allies lost about 10,000 merchant marine delivering lend lease supplies through the Murmansk Run, the United States supplied the Soviet Union with 15,000 aircraft, 7,000 tanks, 350,000 tons of explosives, and 15,000,000 pairs of boots. American boots made a difference on the Eastern Front, especially during the harsh winters. We also send over half a million military trucks and vehicles, more than Russian made during the entire war. http://ww2-weapons.com/History/Production/Russia/Lend-Lease.htm.
            most of the Russian war dead were directly cause by Soviet and Stalinist policies , not lack of American participation.

          • Julia

            I think I know better than you about repressions in Russia. It was the tragic period of my nation history. But for me, it is not reason for hatred and depression speculations, because in spite of this, just at the same time, many people were able to demonstrate the best human properties, moreover in extremely difficult conditions. As to Stalin power, what to do, there are a lot of circumstances in human life which could not be taken under our control and changed, And I do not blame Americans or any other nations for the troubles of Russia, because both persons and nations should be able to take responsibility on their history, with all its happy and tragic aspects, otherwise it would be some kind of “infantilism”.
            But unfortunately, as I can see, you seem to be ready to blame Russians for all “sins” in the earth. But this is your problem, not mine.
            As to the history of War, I know many facts from my parents, both of which were military doctors, working in medical centers in tank army just near the front, from the beginning to the end of the war (coming with army to Berlin). On the other hand, I have read the books of German historian scientists, and there they reported in detail the “contraversial” intrigues underlying the interference of Western politics into the war. Of course, it is not the reason not to respect heroism of ordinary soldiers and to be grateful for those good that was done.

          • Julia

            P,S. The addition to previous post. I would like to add that after Stalingrad it was completely evident both to Soviet and US “high” politics that Soviet Union is going to win the war.

          • JB

            Wrong. Stalin admitted he needed our help. We got involved on an agreement with Stalin that we would help him beat Germany if he would help us retaliate against Japan for attacking Hawaii. But secretly, The US and Britain knew Stalin was just as bad as hitler so we also got involved to prevent Stalin from taking advantage of war torn europe to expand his territory.. Later Stalin fell through on his word to help with Japan, so we nuked Japan to prevent another 10 years of conflict.

          • Julia

            Interesting, that there was one period in American-Russian relations, when there was no place for “russophobia” and hatred, but, contrary, the relations seemed to be sincerely friendly, I mean the time of American Civil war, when Russia helped americans in their struggle with Britain. And America’s support of Russia during Sevastopol war. However further there appeared russophobic publicists trying to mask and deny this important period as well. http://www.voltairenet.org/article169488.html

          • JB

            HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA WTF Are you talking about??? Russians helped americans beat Britain during the Civil war???? OMFG that is hilarious. First off, the civil war was just as the name suggests…. Britain was not involved at all. Maybe you are referring to the Revolutionary war which was 100 years earlier but Russia didnt do anything significant then either. The only problem then was beating the British navy which we did with the help of France and Spain on the condition that we would announce our Independance and open trade with them.

          • Dee

            “And it is impossible to devide the sufferings of two major branches of nation – Russians annd Ukrainians. The latter are the nationalistic “folk-history” myths.”
            The Ukrainians don’t see themselves as a major branch of Russia, the Russians see them as a major branch. Russia doesn’t get to go around pronouncing other countries part of Russia. When the USSR collapsed all the conquered and “suppressed” nations left.. and I might add are trying to join NATO so the Russians can’t come back and rape their women and starve their children and steal their land again. That is not a folks -myth, that is history for the rest of the world.. only in Russia is it a myth.

      • cettel

        Did you click on even one of my links in this article? You provide no evidence. The article is loaded with evidence. The article provides solid documentation on each one of its claims that you rejecting. To reject a claim without even checking to see what the documentation for it is, is plain stupid.

        • Dee

          Yeah, I did .. there was no evidence of who did the bombing .. all they said was a SU-25 Frogfoot was seen in the area .. even some speculation a Manpad missed the plane and hit the building ( IMHO SA-7 Manpad have a very small warhead, unlikely it would do as much damage as, say, an RPG round) . Both Ukraine and Russia fly Frogfoot’s no marking of the plane were visible in the picture nor reported. Obama doesn’t have a pilots license, we don’t have any frogfoots , if we did , they don’t have the range to get from the closest US base.
          Hence , it was either a Ukrainian or Russian Frogfoot nobody says which. They are having a civil war.. people get killed . Some Ukrainians want the Russian out some want them in .. the victims are not even clearly identified as to which side they are on, or if they were on any side at all, look like mostly innocent civilians to me . Adds up to no proof who did it and even less that the US sponsored or directed the attack. In fact I couldn’t find anything in your evidence where anybody claims the US did it or was behind it, other than the author.
          But, okay, say I am wrong, and you are right.. the reason nobody is responding or posting or publishing your material is still because it isn’t credible and offers no proof, no evidence of who did what to who.
          Somebody’s plane dropped something on some people, is all you got.

          • cettel

            Maybe the tooth-fairy did it.

          • Dee

            maybe, maybe it is exactly like you say.. you don’t have the evidence either way.
            maybe the Ukrainians and the Russians did it based on long term ethnic animosity. And maybe the Ukrainians weren’t happy with their government. And maybe Russia is having a midlife crisis and wants a little of the old Empire back.

  • Arnold Lockshin

    How many thousand more deaths in the US – NATO inspired war against the people of sotheastern Ukraine?

    Arnold Lockshin, political exile from the US living in Moscow

  • JB

    Tha lack of comments is due to the fact that we are bombarded daily with fake Russian sponsored propaganda using photographs from the balkans or other wars to depict fake atrocities in Ukraine. Russians are in such a frenzy making fake news reports against the new Ukrainian government that we refuse to believe anything we read on the subject. Sorry Russia, but your propaganda war is starting to backfire.

  • fratdawgg23

    It is easy to obsufcate what is really taking place when so many Americans are largely incurious and woefully uninformed. Since much of U.S. foreign intervention is dishonourable, disingenuous and utterly indefensible, it is sugarcoated as “fighting communists” or “fighting terrorists.” Thx for providing clear-headed analysis on Ukraine, the latest victim of “freedom and democracy.”

  • Jerry Howe

    The Kremlin, going back to the time of Peter the Great has always been very masterful at propaganda. They are by far the best of the lot out there.

    Fortunately, regardless of what the western industrialized countries, Edward Snowden, and those of true democracies think of the U.S., the CIA is a counter balance.

  • Andrean Tantiono

    nice info man

    Medionize

 

 

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