Video: National School Safety Expert: Sandy Hook shooting was a fraud

43-minute game-changing interview here.

Wolfgang Halbig has the perfect combination of expertise to evaluate what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School:

  • law enforcement: Florida State Trooper, US Customs Agent.
  • education: teacher, assistant principal, principal.
  • current school safety expert: trained key personnel at over 4,000 US school districts, and over 3,500 school safety officers.

His conclusion after ten months of motivated investigation:

“In my professional opinion, [Sandy Hook was] a scripted event… in planning for maybe two, two and a half years.”

Mr. Halbig’s response is demand for criminal arrests of “leaders” involved in Sandy Hook based on rational embrace of the public evidence he explains in the interview:

  • law enforcement parked 1/4 mile away upon arrival. Why didn’t they rush to a heart-wrenching emergency if it really occurred?
  • no trauma helicopters were ordered. This is unheard of for an actual emergency.
  • no paramedics were allowed in the school. This is unheard of.
  • officials refuse to say who declared all 26 people dead. By law, this must come from a doctor. This refusal of so much basic information indicates lies and cover-ups.
  • official narrative claims emergency personnel didn’t find the school secretary and nurse after 4 hours of searching.
  • this “event” included a traffic sign lit with the message, “everyone must sign in.” Officials refuse any comment on this element that would be present for a staged event/drill.
  • porta potties were on site; again with no comment by officials and consistent with holding a staged event.
  • no names were listed for the 26 children and chorus director at the 2013 Super Bowl event in honor of Sandy Hook. The children resemble the alleged shooting victims. It’s unimaginable to not list these names for such a huge deal.
  • no lawsuits filed by parents for negligence against school district. This is unheard of.
  • Asperger’s causes poor motor skills and muscle tone – how did an alleged 120 pound shooter without training carry ~30 pounds of gear to shoot with such precision? This combination seems impossible to imagine.
  • 2 homicide investigators threatened Mr. Halbig for making inquiries consistent with his professional duties to learn about this event for future school safety.
  • Newtown Public Schools won’t return any calls. Mr. Halbig says this non-cooperation to contribute information for other schools’ safety is unheard of.
  • the FBI classified the report on Sandy Hook. This has never been done before, and indicates a cover-up of all the evidence that this was a staged event.
  • radio transmissions are consistent in tone and content for a drill, not an actual emergency.
  • multiple weapons reported at a limited crime scene were never found. This is not credible.
  • law enforcement sent a kindergarten girl from the hall to stay at the crime scene of room 8 to be alone with dead bodies. This is a ridiculous claim that demands investigation and answers.
  • no parents viewed the bodies of their children. This is also unheard of.
  • no documents are being released via Freedom of Information Act requests. This is unheard of.
  • trauma services were never requested. This would never occur.
  • tearing down the school is consistent with destruction of evidence, given the HUGE gaps between official accounts and the evidence.
  • there’s zero evidence that a bio-hazard company was contacted to clean blood, bodily fluids, and officials refuse comment. This is impossible.
  • Mr. Halbig’s inquiries of who installed the school security system has been met with silence. This is unheard of to not get this information to improve other schools.

Mr. Halbig has the professional expertise to conclude the official story is impossible, and to demand arrests in order for the public to have the truth.

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  • gozounlimited

    I couldn’t figure out what the mortuary’s buried…. but since families were instructed not to look inside the box….. most likely the mortician was instructed to do nothing more than bury the box. No body prep, no viewing, no looky inside the box.

    • Scott Neagle

      If the families were actually in on it the whole time, why would they need to be instructed not to look inside the box? Wouldn’t they already know there was nothing inside the box?

      • gozounlimited

        Of Course…..if the parents were willing to deviate from protocol, why would the mortician make any judgement in regards to their behavior? If you have a body bag placed inside of a casket and delivered to the mortuary…. with instructions to not disturb the remains….. No One is going to look in the box. The scene-narrative provides the persuasive factor for dealing with the public and professionals NOT included in the conspiracy. Even if the so-called parents are.

        • Nonya

          How much time does one get for digging up a grave? I dont think its a lot. However, I doubt you could be convicted if you prove that a body does not exist. It would however, open a big can of worms for a kick #ss cleaning house party.

          • gozounlimited

            No statute of limitations but need a court order. Problem is the family has leverage in the court over this issue. Not likely to happen…. but we can still stage the kick #ss cleaning house party…..anyway.

      • Unique

        Glad it wasn’t my child. I would blow the whole thing open.

    • Wolfie

      Then who ID the children if the parents weren’t allow to see the bodies?

      • gozounlimited

        Parents provided photos to the Coroner…… so Coroner ID’d and Boxed the kids…..

  • justsomeguy05

    I will not comment on this post in its totality, but one thing seems VERY wrong with this analysis.

    “a shooter with Aspergers would have poor motor skills and muscle tone –
    how did he carry all the gear and shoot with such precision? This
    combination is impossible to imagine.”
    Sorry, but that analysis illustrates a Complete misunderstanding of Aspergers.

    • gozounlimited

      Adam Lanza’s bedroom appears to be staged or at worse an environment prepared for sensory deprivation. No evidence showing the behavior of a person with Aspergers.

    • Carl_Herman

      Liar. You provide zero evidence for that claim, while refuted by all the medical information with a simple Internet search that Aspergers in 50% to 90% of people result in poor motor skills.

      Liar: you ignore the overwhelming evidence reported by an expert.

      Liar: you show zero evidence of having listened to the interview to provide an informed comment.

      But go ahead: respond with documentation for your claim and try to refute the easily available medical information. We’ll wait.

      • Ronald Pottol

        Well, show us some links, because I’m not going to try to prove a negative. Aspergers has to do with social interactions, and has zero interaction with motor skills or physical conditioning, from everything I’ve read and seen. This is one thing that I know is 100% wrong, and really calls into question the rest of it. Though the police not following their active shooter procedure is a cover up, but only of their ineptitude (instead of waiting until swat gets there, they should rush in as they arrive, as the active shooters usually stop as soon as there is any effective resistance at all).

        • Carl_Herman

          Sure. Try these three, then try to imagine a 120 pound kid carrying full ammo and body armor achieving a 96% kill ratio.

          50% to 90% have poor motor skills:

          coordination problems:

          balance problems, muscular weakness:

          But you miss the point: it’s the totality of evidence. Go ahead and explain a convincing story that covers those points. Readers can see if it’s more rational than the explanation of a cover-up.

          • Ronald Pottol

            Not to the extent that standing and shooting is an issue. Once again, this is the sort of thing where stressing society generates enough cases to fill any need to scare people. Keeping stuff secret on this level is very hard, and why would they bother, pump things so the crazy people snap, and be ready to move when it happens, and their is virtually nothing that you need to cover up. Have a look a Bruce Sterling’s novel Heavy Weather for some more extreme examples.

            Why would they do all that they claim, when all they need is one nut?

          • Carl_Herman

            Now you prove you’re a liar, Ronald. I provide evidence that refutes what you claim “one thing that I know is 100% wrong, and really calls into question the rest of it,” and then you resort to hypothetical stories that don’t address the evidence.

            Thanks for the propaganda to show readers the difference between those who deal in the reality of evidence versus BS story tellers like you.

            But maybe I’m too harsh: go ahead and address the evidence, like Mr. Halbig and any other professional in his/her field.

            Go ahead.

          • Big Dan

            That guy shows the hallmarks of a shill, especially the use of the word “nut”.

          • TryToUseYourBrain

            Not to mention the classic slip of a shill using multiple personas to propagate their verbal diarrhea: “he”(Ronald Pottol) answers Carl_Herman’s reply to an anonymous post by “as if he IS “justsomeguy05”.
            Rookie mistake or a sign this guy is due for his lunch break at his NSA post, making a living lying about and covering up for serious crimes being committed by our “authorities”.
            When we bring these corrupt and criminal authorities to justice for their crimes, next on the chopping block will be the media shills, soon followed by these professional propagandists that think it’s OK to stab your fellow man, your family, in the back to pay for slave-made goods from this cancerous system that seems to be against everything that is good, honorable and beautiful about this existence.
            Yep, take note of this you lying scumbag shills: “YOU WILL PAY FOR YOUR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY”
            The only chance you have for redemption is to take the evidence you have of these criminals workings, send it to at least a dozen non-establishment media sources for protection, and then go public with your crimes and beg for forgiveness while being part of the solution for once.
            We are all screwed if your bosses win, and by now even you HAVE to realize there is no place at their table for you and your loved ones.
            If you don’t realize these facts then you are truly one of the damned, in this life AND the next.

        • Fineilllookitup

          Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger disorder (AD) or simply Asperger’s, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests. It differs from other autism spectrum disorders by its relative preservation of linguistic and cognitive development. Although not required for diagnosis, physical clumsiness and atypical (peculiar, odd) use of language are frequently reported.[1][2]

          The syndrome is named after the Austrian pediatrician Hans Asperger who, in 1944, studied and described children in his practice who lacked nonverbal communication skills, demonstrated limited empathy with their peers, and were physically clumsy.[3] The modern conception of Asperger syndrome came into existence in 1981[4] and went through a period of popularization,[5][6] becoming standardized as a diagnosis in the early 1990s. Many questions remain about aspects of the disorder.[7] There is doubt about whether it is distinct fromhigh-functioning autism (HFA);[8] partly because of this, its prevalence is not firmly established.[1] The diagnosis of Asperger’s was eliminated in the 2013 fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) and replaced by a diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder on a severity scale.[9]

          The exact cause is unknown. Although research suggests the likelihood of a genetic basis,[1] there is no known genetic cause[10][11] andbrain imaging techniques have not identified a clear common pathology.[1] There is no single treatment, and the effectiveness of particular interventions is supported by only limited data.[1] Intervention is aimed at improving symptoms and function. The mainstay of management isbehavioral therapy, focusing on specific deficits to address poor communication skills, obsessive or repetitive routines, and physical clumsiness.[12] Most children improve as they mature to adulthood, but social and communication difficulties may persist.[7] Some researchers and people with Asperger’s have advocated a shift in attitudes toward the view that it is a difference, rather than a disability that must be treated or cured.[13][14]

    • Rhonda McCauley

      True on Aspergers, motor skills are fine. All the other things do not mesh though. Supposedly the gear he was carrying weighed almost as much as he did. Where did Aspergers even develop in this story, originally I heard Autism.

  • Charlie Primero

    I just checked. Virginia Tech shooting: at least 2 lawsuits. Columbine: 17 lawsuits.

  • lawrencebaker

    Building of empire quote from Karl Rove:

    “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while
    you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll
    act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and
    that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . .
    and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” Karl

    Erick Holder, US Attorney General is a traitor to our American Constitution.

    The Supreme Court are traitors that have overthrown our American Constitution and set-up the
    multinational corporate American Empire.

    • Unique

      You forgot to add George W. Bush and Dick the Pr*ck Cheney.

      • Russell C.

        No sorry this is Obama’s baby start to finish. Bush and Cheney have been out of office for 5+ years. Obama was hugging the family’s for his big political moment. Obama is stressing new gun laws have to be passed to keep the children safe from deranged people who actually do not even exist. You don’t have to like Bush or Cheney but they did not have a damn thing to do with this one.

      • johnnypelos

        You suck

    • Russell C.

      Karl Rove can say whatever he wants. He is not a member of any branch of the government. Therefore he could not have been involved in the planning,execution and cover up of the Sandy Hook school shooting’s. There are however plenty of low life turds in office right now that can go to prison for what was done.

      • lawrencebaker

        In reply top Russel: You missed the point, building of empire is an
        ongoing process carried out by new actors for the empire.

        They are at war with American Democracy and the Free Enterprise System-
        free from multinational corporations monopolies—Free Trade is not
        Fair Trade.

        Yes,Rove is one of the actors like the actors at Sandy Hook, 9/11 and the
        other actors that overthrew our democracy.

    • BillRind

      holder is behind the entire scam along with his criminal boss

  • Orangutan.

    Sandy Hook Conspiracy Theory

  • Orangutan.

    The following are his 10 questions:

    1. Why did the responding officers have to park a quarter mile from the scene?

    2. Why were there no Life Assist helicopters called in to help the wounded and take them to the hospitals?

    3. Why were the paramedics forced to remain outside the building, some 500
    yards away at a crucial time when victims were lying bleeding on the

    4. Who pronounced the victims as deceased, something only medical personnel can do on a scene?

    5. Why were several officers recorded sending children back into rooms 8
    and 10 during the initial sweep of the school when according to the
    final report, all the dead children were found in those two rooms?

    6. Why did police at the scene report finding certain weapons inside the
    school and then change their story about what was found and where?

    7. When asking about contractor’s names for such services as installing
    the new security system and cleaning up biological material after the
    event, he was told disclosing that information would “put the children
    at risk”. What the heck is that?

    8. Signs that read “everyone must sign in” on scene the morning of the shooting and porta-potties there within 3 hours?

    9. No law suits filed by the parents against the school district for
    either negligence or how the first response on the scene was handled?

    10. Eric Holder gave officers checks after the shooting?

  • Big Dan

    I didn’t believe the “official story” of Sandy Hook from day one. And it fits the “lone nut gunman” formula of JFK, RFK, MLK, etc…

  • Big Dan

    Carl, don’t forget for the demolition of the school, contractors were sworn to secrecy:

    “Contractors also will be required to sign confidentiality agreements and workers will guard the property’s perimeter to prevent onlookers from taking photographs or videos.”

    BOSTON (Reuters) – Workers tearing down Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, site of one of Americas worst school shootings, have been required by the town to sign confidentiality agreements barring them from discussing or photographing the site.

    Sandy Hook Contractors Required To Sign Non-Disclosure Agreements

    • Carl_Herman

      Yup; thanks Big Dan. I just took a list of what Wolfgang described. There’s probably a dozen more points that require links like you provide for the full list.

  • What_IQ

    You will never bring the Oligarchs to justice, they will have to be served with justice by the sword of the people, dragged into the streets and made examples of. You have people like George Soros ( who should be in prison for crimes against humanity ). I read today that 8 bankers have died since Jan 1st. Either this is the work of Jackals or someone is taking down the global elite. Either way, it has begun..

  • Amanda

    Looks like Wolfgang has gotten a 2nd and 3rd visit from police officers:

    “Cops Harass School Safety Expert Wolfgang Halbig During Radio Interview Questioning Sandy Hook Event ”

    He breaks the news here on DTRH that after doing an interview last week, that went viral over the internet, and literally right before this interview took place, Wolfgang was visited by another Sheriff’s deputy and told again to back off. That’s the second visit. And as if that weren’t enough harassment, during the interview, Popeye and Wolfgang are interrupted, and the interview abruptly ended when a sheriff’s Deputy appeared at the house for a third time. Literally in the middle of the interview. The repeated harassment by “law enforcement” officials just proves that they have something to hide.

  • D Smith

    Even the lead coroner for Sandy Hook couldn’t even say why The shooter died during and inteview afterwards. He also said the town was going to pay for what they did. Very strange thing to say.

  • Scott Neagle

    While this post raises some excellent questions (not making a trauma notification certainly raises eyebrows), a conspiracy of this scale, involving dozens of regular people in a small New England town, is unimaginable. If in fact no one was killed at Sandy Hook, that information would have made it out of Newtown almost immediately. Those not directly involved in the conspiracy would have wanted to know who was killed, and if /they/ couldn’t find out, given the fact that they would have children who attended school with the victims, it would have been damning. However, this didn’t happen. The names of the victims are easily obtainable simply by googling “list of people killed at sandy hook”.

    • Harold Smith

      What’s a “regular” person and how do you know that the people involved in this fraud are “regular” people? For example, there’s photographic evidence linking “Gene Rosen” to FEMA. Is “Gene Rosen” a “regular” person?

      And while we’re on the subject of “Gene Rosen”, why hasn’t the “bus driver” or anyone else come forward to corroborate any of his fantastic tales?

      Anyway, for the sake of argument, let’s say some “regular” person from Newtown uncovers some evidence of fraud, how would such information “have made it out of Newtown almost immediately”? Who would disseminate the information? CNN?

      How would someone actually go about getting the word out? Please give a practical example of how someone would go about informing the world.

      • Scott Neagle


    • Carl_Herman

      Scott, you tell a story rather than deal with the actual evidence. You don’t do this in any area you’re effective at. Deal with the facts, just as you do in real life.

      Which do you choose: your story without the answers to the “excellent questions” you admit, or those answers to best understand what happened?

      If you want a story, you deserve to be dictated to; storied-up about everything. If you want the facts, then you’re worthy of being educated and participating under a constitutional republic.

      • Scott Neagle

        Some of these questions are excellent. Take the lack of a trauma notification for example. I’d like to know why one wasn’t made. However, as a teacher, EMT, and incident assessor for my Building Response Team, I can imagine situations in which chaos and human error could cause a blunder like that – it’s not necessarily evidence of a conspiracy. Some of the points above are ludicrous though. Plenty of people with Asperger’s are able to carry heavy gear and shoot competently (and it doesn’t take a marksman to massacre children at close range). I’ve worked with some.

    • Padraigin

      Dream on Scotty, as the unimaginable is the realm of the unimaginative and the puppet masters love sheep shearing, you clearly well penned and led by the crooked shepherds. I suppose you also believe that those 2-buildings that turned to dust in mid-air and that other one that fell at freefall speed, reported on by the mindless mainstream media 20 minutes before collapso, was as a result of some box cutter felons with beards and semite (Arab) genes.

      • Scott Neagle

        What do anyone’s genes have to do with anything?

        • Daniel

          Man, these nut jobs sure do love bad metaphors and alliteration.

  • what

    This is stupid and sad. This kind of stuff is as disgusting as westboro baptist protesting the funerals of the victims. Ridiculous.

  • Todd Bedard

    I’m sure you all know this, but you are batshit crazy if you think that this is a cover up or a conspiracy. I’d take the 5 minutes to point out why each of you points is wrong, but you’d probably counteract it with some evidence that an alien from outspace gave you.

  • Unique

    Sandy Hook is like what happened at the World Trade Center.
    NORAD never sent planes into the sky, and the US allowed the
    families of Bin Laden to leave the US with interviewing them.
    The American people believe the Government explanations.
    When will the Government garbage end?

    • mo up in the northeast

      Looking back, 9-11, and I’m a conservative Republican, btw, we saw the warnings of Ms. Rowley ignored by “authorities” – those warnings of middle easterners learning to fly, but not to land. Then the next admin- Abdumutullab- his own father warned an African embassy- and Napolitano said the “system worked”. Russian warned about the Tsarnaev Brothers- and look what happened. Globalists creeps are taking over- erased sovereiignty in one country after another. IMF and LaGarde, and Soros: instigators in Ukraine.

  • Russell C.

    I knew from the get-go that whole thing was gun grabbers B.S. The parents were phony,that damn doctor was completely phony and so was the neighbor. If 20 plus kids had truly been shot the actual family’s would have never acted in the way these people did. The parents would have been shocked and out of there minds with grief.

    • mo up in the northeast

      Jennifer Hubbard was among the worst- interviewed a month later, with Anderson Cooper she acted as if the loss of her daughter was a nuisance interfering with Christmas. How does Cooper sleep at night, anyway?

  • Carl_Herman

    NOTE TO READERS ON DELETED COMMENTS: This article explains and documents how government shills infiltrate comments to distract/discourage/repulse readers from thoughtful conversation:

    The deleted comments were character attacks of the most vulgar nature, attacks on various religions, sexist, homophobic, and without a single explanation/documentation of any fact under consideration for this topic.


    Fairly comprehensive list of sandy Hook videos

  • Brian Hawkins

    One thing on your list is BS, just because someone has asperger’s doesn’t mean they are defintiely un athletic. Look up Clay Marzo, a prosurfer for quicksilver from hawaii. You can’t paddle in huge waves and stuff like pipeline without being a strong Mofo with crazy stamina. Look him up, dude is one of the best surfers on the planet, one of best ever.

  • David Howard

    Google “Michelle Obama is a man”

    • FriendofThom

      You’re in dire need of a cranial enema.. better make it a double.

  • John C. Turmel, B. Eng.

    Jct: Great list of reasons showing it was a hoax.

  • Ridiculousness

    Based upon my years in Emergency Response as a first responder, EMT and dispatcher, I can say the first rule is you never go into a scene unless it has first been secured. So your point of why paramedics didn’t come into the school seems easily understood.
    Second, your writing of Asperger’s causing poor motor skill & muscle tone is also inaccurate. My 15 years experience working with children with this and other ASDs recognizes many individuals with highly developed fine motor skills to include one who taught herself to read & write Japanese (conji?) And one who was a champion card house builder.
    Since these two points I’m most familiar with are wrong, I doubt your other claims.
    Where on earth did you get your information?


    Did they knock down the gas chambers to remove a bad memory?
    The SCHOOL was knocked down and removed to HIDE THE SYSTEMS CRIMES!

  • barry soetoro

    Forensic PROOF: Sandy Hook = Gun Grab Hoax.

    Was Sandy Hook shotgun planted by Police?

    Noah Pozner died at Sandy Hook, then died AGAIN in Pakistan 2 years later.

    Sandy Hook LEAD INVESTIGATOR, William Podgorski, vanished at age 49.

    PROOF famous “Sandy Hook Evacuation” photos are fake.

    Veronique ‘Pozner’ HALLER is a long-time Gun Grabber,
    pretending her “son Noah” died at Sandy Hook.

    To learn more about Sandy Hoax, watch the Documentary,
    “We Need To Talk About Sandy Hook.”

    Francine Wheeler (and her husband David) are CRISIS ACTORS. Their “son Ben Wheeler” didn’t die at Sandy Hoax.

    Adam Lanza is fake (he was created in PhotoShop). The fake Newtown shooting never happened. It’s a gun grab SCAM.

  • Carl_Herman

    Nathan, dude, seriously, you argue over a reasoned opinion that a 120 pound guy with a condition making motor skills difficult for up to 90% of those afflicted can’t be imagined making this armed attack with 96% kill rate.

    Dude: he’s a liar for not taking this aspect of Asperger’s into account, and then as you point out correctly, using it to discredit the evidence. That’s a lie.

    And finally, dude: while you’re welcome to argue over reasoned opinion, I will not. You’re welcome to imagine this as possible, and make that the center of comments. I’ll stick to pointing out the totality of evidence, and I’ll keep my conclusion with Wolfgang that I can’t imagine an untrained 120 pound kid with a probable debilitating condition doing it, even without the totality of evidence refuting it as possible

    And that said, those of us who are truth tellers see ALL the evidence and put each piece in context. Programmed? Ok, refute the available evidence to make that case.

    And finally, Nathan, dude: you’re rude.

  • Big Dan

    Anybody can say anything on the internet “nathan”.

  • Harold Smith

    Yo shit-for-brains, shut the fuck up. We’re not talking about “somebody” “wear[ing] some stupid body armor and hold[ing] a gun shoot[ing] people”; rather, we’re talking about a physically small (120 lb.?), relatively “clumsy” person, a “vegetarian” who “didn’t want to hurt animals”, who, with no motive, no training, and no history of violence, allegedly went on a shooting spree that put the two Columbine killers to shame with its deadly effectiveness.

    We’re talking about an apparent “Rambo on steroids” here. Do you see the problem, goofball? The official narrative is preposterous.

    Physiother Theory Pract. 2008 Mar-Apr;24(2):73-81. doi: 10.1080/15368370701380843.

    Motor function in adults with Asperger’s disorder: a comparative study.
    Sahlander C1, Mattsson M, Bejerot S.
    Author information

    In the original description of Asperger’s disorder (AD), clumsiness was an associated feature. Several studies of children have shown deficits in motorcontrol, whereas research regarding adults is scarce. The aim of the present study was to compare motor function in adults with AD, with a normal comparison group. Gross and fine motor skills were examined by a standardized, norm referenced test developed for children, but also used in young adults, the Bruininks-Oseretsky Test of Motor Proficiency (BOTMP). In addition, a questionnaire regarding the participants’ physical activity during leisure time was administered. *We found that adults (age 21-35) with AD (N = 15) performed significantly worse than the normal comparison group (N = 29) in six of eight subtests in the BOTMP.* Males with AD were less physically active than males in the comparison group. Among females, physical activity did not differ between the groups. There was a positive association between physical activity and gross motor function in the AD group. Participants with AD were encouraged by the assessments. Physical coaching may be an important future field for improving quality of life in adults with AD.

    PMID: 18432510 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]

  • Nathan Cline

    What an obtuse douchebag. So the guy doesn’t interpret things exactly the same way you do, and that makes him a liar? 90% of Asperger’s DO NOT HAVE MOTOR PROBLEMS. Which is exactly what I just told you, if you had bothered reading what I wrote. I am autistic, and I obviously know a hell of a lot more about Asperger’s than you do. Just because some fucking web page on the Internet says something doesn’t make it true. You do know that 87% of all statistics are made up bullshit, right? Just because somebody disagrees with YOUR flawed interpretation of the world, doesn’t make them a LIAR! Pull your head out of your asshole and stop being a FUCKWAD.

  • Carl_Herman

    He’s a liar for taking one opinion that a professional with weapons experience, along with an observation of likely skills of an untrained 120 pound kid with a disease that causes up to 90% having poor motor skills, would not be possible to commit an act of combat with a 96% kill rate, and then say that discredits all other factual claims.

    He’s a liar for arguing over an opinion as somehow valid to consider factual evidence. He’s welcome, as are you, to consider the above act as credible.

    You’re rude and won’t/can’t discuss the comprehensive factual evidence (or even the one point of the above lie). Thank you for demonstrating the difference between those of us interested in the evidence versus the emotional distractions of those in apparent opposition to considering the evidence.

  • Big Dan

    Another sign of a shill: descending into name-calling.

  • Harold Smith

    Physiother Theory Pract. 2008 Mar-Apr;24(2):73-81. doi: 10.1080/15368370701380843.
    Motor function in adults with Asperger’s disorder: a comparative study.
    Sahlander C1, Mattsson M, Bejerot S.
    Author information

    …We found that adults (age 21-35) with AD (N = 15) performed significantly worse than the normal comparison group (N = 29) in six of eight subtests in the BOTMP….

    PMID: 18432510 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]

    Percept Mot Skills. 2007 Jun;104(3 Pt 2):1183-92.
    Motor and visuomotor skills of children with Asperger’s disorder: preliminary findings.

    Lopata C1, Hamm EM, Volker MA, Sowinski JE.
    Author information

    … 17 boys, 6 to 13 years old, with Asperger’s were tested using standardized measures of gross, fine, and visuomotor skills. Statistically significant deficits were found for the sample’s scores compared with values for the general population (using one-sample t tests), …

    PMID: 17879650 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]

    J Child Psychol Psychiatry. 2002 Jul;43(5):655-68.
    The severity and nature of motor impairment in Asperger’s syndrome: a comparison with specific developmental disorder of motor function.
    Green D1, Baird G, Barnett AL, Henderson L, Huber J, Henderson SE.
    Author information


    The aims of this study were to measure objectively the extent and severity of motor impairment in children with Asperger’s syndromeand to determine whether the motor difficulties experienced by such children differed in any way from those classified as having a Specific Developmental Disorder of Motor Function (SDD-MF). Criteria derived from ICD 10-R were used to identify 11 children with Asperger’s syndrome and a matched group of 9 children with a Specific Developmental Disorder of Motor Function. Children in both groups were required to have a verbal IQ of 80 or greater on the WISC IIIR.



    ALL the children with Asperger’s syndrome turned out to meet our criterion for a diagnosis of motor impairment, five of the six most severely motor impaired children in the whole study being from this group. Performance of the Asperger group was also slightly poorer on the Gesture Test. The profile of performance on each test was examined in detail but no evidence of group differences in the pattern of impairment was found.


    This study is consistent with others suggesting a high prevalence of clumsiness in Asperger’s syndrome. Our findings also attest to the widespread prevalence of motor impairment in developmental disorders and the problems such co-morbidity poses for attempts to posit discrete and functionally coherent impairments underlying distinct syndromes.

  • Nathan Cline

    Are you still talking, dipshit?

    Let’s face it: you don’t have a fucking clue what you’re talking about.

    Beyond that, what makes you TRULY FUCKING STUPID is your apparent INABILITY to accept the SHRED OF POSSIBILITY that your interpretation of ONE, INCONSEQUENTIAL DETAIL could possibly have been wrong.

    Further adding to your stupidity is the incredible idiocy of calling someone a LIAR just because their PERSONAL EXPERIENCE contradicts some shit you Google’d off the internet.

    What an arrogant BITCH you are.

    With retards like you on “our” side, who needs enemies?

    Look in the mirror: you are an IDIOT.

  • Carl_Herman

    Yeah, I’m talking. Here’s how I can help readers understand so-called arguments like yours:

    1. interpretations of data are not wrong, dude, only claims of data.

    2. interpretations are never right or wrong because they are subjective choices of what people choose to say about objective data.

    3. Now you’re also a liar for saying it’s “no reason” to say it’s a lie to reject all data points if one makes an argument on one point.

    So, for the third time (at least), I won’t argue your right to have whatever opinion you want about the question of a 120 pound person with Asperger’s ability in full gear for a combat-like operation.

    And finally, Nathan, those of us in serious consideration of topics would remove you from the discussion if you insisted on such rude behavior that now descends into lies of a perfectly rational description of a lie being “no reason.”

    I doubt I’ll have any reason to respond further to you. Thank you for escalating the “beauty” of your argument points to contrast with the evidence in this article for public consideration. You truly help people respond to propaganda versus factual analysis; thank you :)

  • Nathan Cline

    Like I said: you are a STUPID, ARROGANT FUCKWIT.

  • Carl_Herman

    Yup. But you gotta’ love how the shills help people choose between their self-expressions and ours. Funny as soon as the person called “tonto” left, he was immediately replaced by such like-minded new commenting guests! What a coincidence!!!

  • Big Dan

    I noticed that, too. I always notice when a brand new person appears and disagrees with everything. I always wonder why someone “hangs around” a website or blog they totally disagree with. You don’t see me “hanging around” Breitbart’s blog. That’s ridiculous.

  • Nathan Cline

    Which, in the context of this argument, means what exactly Dan?

  • Wsmiles

    You guys all need to calm the heck down. You must know that when you call eachother names you lose the message. Talk to each other like you are human beings. Remember, you are human beings….!! Right!!! Instead of trying to be “right” why don’t you just explain your ideas and maybe somewhere along the lines you will agree to disagree or you will come to new conclusions. You are what is wrong with this world. I wonder how you would behave if you all had guns in your hands. (and I’m all for owning a gun) But, you guys make me worry.

  • LOL

    Removed for profanity.

  • Adam Evenson

    Adam Lanza’s mother was his psychiatrist.

  • Nonya

    Prove it.

  • B. Richards McIntyre

    YOU need to shut the hell up, you little shill-troll. Christ on a cracker, your posts are about as nonsensical and brain damaged as they can possibly get. Do everyone a favour and go back under your bridge where you belong. If anyone needs to look in the mirror, it’s you my little troll-ette. Where in the hell do things like you come from anyway? No, don’t answer that. We don’t care. Just go away. Best thing you could ever do for your country and for the planet. You may not have Asperger’s Syndrome but you certainly have a bad case of Hoof and Mouth Disease don’t ya?

  • TryToUseYourBrain

    LOL – Sure sign of a genius is calling people 4th grade names.

    Wow, it looks as though I hit a sensitive nerve or two. Did I hurt your widdle feelings there big guy? Well, very good then!

    I guess you must be a shill too then, that would be the only reason you would get so upset and the only way you would “KNOW” what some anonymous guy posting comments on an internet forum is or isn’t.

    Most likely you are the same guy and can’t stand it when someone makes complete sense quoting actual facts and picks you out for the scumbag criminal shill that you are.

    No one would get as upset & angry as you did there in this situation unless you are in fact the same low-life shill.

    And you didn’t respond to any of the facts I posted, you simply foam at the mouth with anger because someone would dare point their finger at your bullshit and call it for what it is.

    Well, so glad I could make your Mr. autistic super genius who is not a shill who has contributed so much important information to help us answer the endless questions, pretty obvious questions, surrounding this event.

    Don’t worry there lil feller, you will pay for your crimes against humanity just like your co-propagandists and your bosses.

    Hope you enjoy licking the boots of your oppressors, while you sell the rest of us out, including your own family & friends(well, probably no friends), for a few dollars to buy more shiny slave-made trinkets and the patronizing smiles and false praise you get from your masters.

  • B. Richards McIntyre

    LOL…..I’m gay and I should be offended at your use of the Fag word, Harold, but you’re making me laugh hysterically instead! Keep it up and tell Mr. Cline where to shove it. LMAO

  • B. Richards McIntyre

    We don’t CARE what you think, shill-trollboy.

  • TryToUseYourBrain

    Let’s not forget that no one can even prove Adam Lanza is even a real person.

  • TryToUseYourBrain

    Well he is…just ask him!

  • Harold Smith

    “Let’s not forget that no one can even prove Adam Lanza was even a real person.”

    Exactly. Absolutely NOTHING that the government/media complex says, can be taken at face value.

  • Big Dan

    It means you’re name may or may not be “nathan cline” and/or you may or may not have autism. Anybody can say anything on the internet, “nathan”, including their name is “nathan cline” and they have “autism”. Even if it’s not true. Maybe it’s true, maybe it isn’t.

  • Taylor Moore

    Who mentioned Jews or neo-Nazis?

  • Todd

    Awww, Mr. No name is maaaadd. To further this intelligent and
    1) Telling me to learn how to spell and then using the word “cuntard” is a bit ironic, don’t you think? (And please forgive me for misspelling “outerspace” I was giggling too much thinking about how some people have the innate ability to turn any tragic or iconic event in history into a conspiracy. For you, or any other person to believe that Sandy Hook is a conspiracy is beyond retarded.) Furthermore, the fact that you’ve based most of your pointless tirade at one misspelled word shines a very bright light on you inability to even understand the argument.
    2) Calling my argument “ad hominem”, yet leaning on theories that would make Elmo look like a Rhodes scholar is, again, ironic.
    3) I am well aware that our country, hell, all countries, do some pretty nasty stuff. I wear no rose colored glasses, nor do I wrap myself in the American flag while decrying everyone else and cheering for the good ole U.S. of A.
    4) Trying to use Ed Snowden as your trump card shows your incredibly narrow view on the world. Did Snowden bring to light some downright illegal activities by the US government? yes he did. Personally, for myself, I have no care in the world that my emails, texts, or phone messages are being parsed through the NSA, because I have nothing to hide. I’m not a terrorist, I’m not running drugs, I haven’t killed anyone, and I’m not worried about Obama finding out about my kids Lemonade stand that they haven’t paid taxes on. I realize, as an intelligent human,that there are things in place behind the scenes that are there to protect the whole. I may not like them, I may not agree with with the way they are set up, but I shudder to think what may have happened in this country if those methods were not being used.
    5) I clicked on your link.. um, what does that have to do with anything? What snowden did, in my view, borders on treason. I say borders because I feel he did the right thing by whistle blowing and pointing out something that the government was doing that was certainly stepping over some lines. But he lost me when he decided the best way to defend himself was to seek asylum in Russia. When he did that, he defined exactly the person he is: a coward who felt that the only way to seek moral high ground was to leak government secrets and then shack up with one of America’s long time enemies.
    6) Did you actually notice when you typed “outerspace” that you had that red squiggly line under it? that means that YOU spelled it wrong too…. its “outer space”.

    Lastly, since right now we’re just trading insults why don’t we actually turn this into a real discussion. Please provide for me and our listening audience of no one your reasoning for your belief in the whole “its a hoax” thing. I would honestly love to hear what your undeniable facts are.

  • Daniel

    “Alliteration is the repetition of the same
    sounds or of the same kinds of sounds at the beginning of words or in
    stressed syllables of an English language phrase.”
    sheep shearing
    fell at freefall
    mindless mainstream media

    all examples of alliteration. I understand, you just needed a reason to share your copraphiliac artwork, but you are wrong.

  • FriendofThom

    The moon landing was a hoax too, right?

  • noname_noslogan

    Sandy Hook comment

    “Personally, for myself, I have no care in the world that my emails,
    texts, or phone messages are being parsed through the NSA, because I have
    nothing to hide. I’m not a terrorist, I’m not running drugs, I haven’t killed
    anyone, and I’m not worried about Obama finding out about my kids Lemonade
    stand that they haven’t paid taxes on.”

    What an idiot.
    You’ve demonstrated for all what a mindless tool you are.

    This quote from
    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn comes to mind:

    “Everyone is
    guilty of something or has something to conceal. All one has to do is look hard
    enough to find what it is.”

    Everyone has
    something to hide. Everyone has something that can be used against them.
    Privacy matters regardless if Todd Bedard thinks everyone should give up all
    privacy because he is a fucking idiot. You are a fucking idiot, it’s an apt
    description. People, me included, don’t need to justify our position. You, the
    US Government bureaucrats, police and others who want everyone (except themselves of course) to give up our privacy, need to justify
    theirs. Come back when you have a warrant, you dildo.

    What Snowden did
    was reveal the depths of depravity and criminality the US Government has gone
    to and covered up. Without the information he released via Glenn Greenwald,
    we’d still have fucking dumb turds like you denying the US Government had done anything wrong at all, saying “everything’s
    fine”, “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.”
    You stupid, stupid man. It took 50 plus years for the CIA to admit it was
    behind the coup in the sovereign nation of Iran. It’s illegal; they broke so
    many laws that it would be impossible to list them all. That’s just one example
    of the hundreds of examples of vile, disgusting, totalitarian behavior the US
    Government and its corporate partners in crime have exhibited. Not everyone who works for the US Government is “bad”, duhh, but, mindless
    drones like you have “no problem” with the US Government doing
    whatever it wants and, in fact, being totalitarian scumbags who have completely ignored the US Constitution. That should concern you just a little, but dumb animals walk into slaughterhouses everyday, so it’s no surprise that you aren’t even the least bit concerned, too many dumb and ignorant Americans probably feel the same. Hey, did you see Miley Cyrus twerking on TV?

    Let me ask you a question.If someone were to ask you “what is money” and to show them an example, what would you do? If you pulled out a Federal Reserve debt note and showed it to them, that would demonstrate the level of intelligence you are functioning with in life. It would also tell me how aware you are of the system of slavery you live under and the outright abuse you are willing to accept on behalf of your government, and certain powers that be, without so much as a peep from you.

    Fortunately, there
    are men in America who speak out against the abuse of power by governments and
    are against pieces of shit like you who think governments and people in
    positions of authority can do whatever they want, including destroy the lives
    of millions of innocent people.

    Snowden gave up a
    $200,000+ per year job and a great life, he gave up seeing his family and
    friends, he gave up living in this great country and much more. He’s far from a
    criminal. The real criminals are the people in government and their private
    contractors who committed serious crimes, like mass murder, torture, rape,
    heroin smuggling, kidnapping, false imprisonment, stealing billions of dollars
    from US citizens, treason against America and idiots like you who remain willfully ignorant of the serious criminality and thug behavior of people
    who hide behind positions of authority and are protected by government. A coward
    like you wouldn’t understand what true patriotism is, no true patriot would so
    easily surrender their privacy to ANY government authority without a fight.
    ..and you did it OPENLY on a public forum. Being that you are a coward and a
    pussy, it makes sense that you would.

    As for why Sandy
    Hook is a conspiracy. Google it, do your own work. You won’t of course, you’re
    a moron. However, if you do, you’ll see that there are a great many things that
    do not add up or jive with the “Official Government Story™®”. I’ve
    read a great deal about it, including information debunking some of the
    conspiracy theories. I’ve even listened to the radio program Adam Lanza called
    in to, but there is much, much more. If something seems too unbelievable,
    that’s probably because it is. Rational, intelligent people understand that
    there is nothing that evil people with an agenda and nearly unlimited resources can
    and will do. Because the case has now been “classified” by the FBI, it’s hard
    to find any evidence of a mass shooting, except local and state reports, but there seems to be more than ample
    evidence of a cover-up. This is the first and only school shooting to be
    classified, not releasable to the public. Why not just release it to the public?
    These are just a few examples, there are more and it doesn’t mean what allegedly happened didn’t happen, but there’s ample room for doubt and it wouldn’t be the first time something this important was covered up or lied about by people in positions of authority whom we are supposed to trust.
    Use that thing in your skull and try
    to rationalize and explain why a mass shooting like Sandy Hook would be classified.

    As for proof that the US Government lies, covers up and commits serious crimes,here, read. I can
    explain it for you but I can’t understand it for you.

    Now, fuck off you stupid

  • noname_noslogan

  • Fred

    I haven’t heard a thing about where the children are, if they were real or not are they being held, what ?