The Most Boring Superbowl Ever … Until 9/11 Truth Proponent Interrupts MVP Interview


This clip has gotten a lot of media attention … almost as much as Peyton Manning explaining why the football hit his helmet on the very first play (leading to a safety, and the fastest score in superbowl history).

Winning Seahawks coach Pete Carroll also questions 9/11. As do some old-timers, like 5-time NFL Pro Bowl center Mark Stepnoski (Dallas Cowboys and Houston Oilers) and former NFL running back Bill Enyart (Buffalo Bills and Oakland Raiders).

What do you think? How many of you think:

(1) The government couldn’t have foreseen 9/11, and did everything it could to minimize the damage (while perhaps being negligent in its foresight, coordination, communication, priorities or execution)?

(2) 9/11 was an inside job carried out by rogue elements of the U.S. government as a “false flag attack“?

(3) The government knew the attack was coming, but allowed it to succeed to justify the launching of the war for oil – er, I mean the “War on Terror” – and to consolidate power and crackdown on liberties at home?

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  • gozounlimited

    You Got IT!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8v_Cah-atg

    We Are Going To Do It Again….
    Nor. Cal….. Fans S/E
    Central…… Fans S/E
    So. Cal…… Fans S/E

  • mirageseekr

    Inside job, follow the money. The added motivation was the completion of what we see the NSA doing to us today.

    • Bev

      Agreed. The Bushs’ are trillionaries according to Jim Willie in a video link posted below. Follow that money.

      And, what an opportunity for comparisons. Compare the THOUSANDS of hours of media time devoted to the current missing plane Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, being searched for by many nations at huge cost which is appropriate, versus the day of 911 in Pennsylvania to that scar in the ground/missing plane with NO FURTHER SEARCH.

      It was FOX new’s finest hour (in addition to the network’s current COSMOS series with Neil DeGrasse Tyson, and the Simpsons) for its on-site Reporter (what was that reporter’s name again?) to say “I don’t see any plane. Just smoke.” Then later, other reporters thought the plane had buried itself on impact…and strangely, it did not warrant being dug up. Or, that it had broken up before impact which also strangely, did not warrant a search, which could have been as successful as the search for the shuttle parts in its disaster spread so far. Compare. And, Contrast. Follow the money. Follow the planes.

      From:
      http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2013/12/aa-flight-11-did-not-fly-on-911.html

      The Four Planes on 10 September 2001According to a Freedom of
      Information Act (FOIA) reply from the U.S. Bureau of Transportation
      Statistics (BTS), the last known pre-9/11 flights for three of the four
      aircraft involved in 9/11 took place in December 2000 — nine months
      before 9/11. No pre-9/11 flight information was provided for American
      Airlines flight 77 (N644AA) by BTS. Reference: http://www.wired.com/politics/online…urrentPage=all

  • (2) 9/11 was an inside job carried out by rogue elements of the U.S. government as a “false flag attack“? … and the Mossad.

    The first time I questioned 911 was when I found out they said an anonymous passerby found the passport of one of the hijackers, in pristine condition, amongst the rubble and demolished towers.
    I thought, “NOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!”

    They expect us to believe that a PASSPORT came out of the hijacker’s pocket/suitcase, out of an exploding plane, out of an exploding building, and settled amongst the few spots there wasn’t rubble, melted steel, etc…and an anonymous passerby finds it in pristine condition, “HERE’S WHO DID IT!!!”

    Then, that caused me to extensively research the “official story” and I found NONE OF IT WAS TRUE. That caused me to research MANY “official story”s, such as JFK assassination, MLK, RFK, and examine ALL subsequent “official story”s and I found I was believing LUDICROUS EVIDENCE-FREE tales with blind belief simply in “officials” saying them…with ZERO evidence and, in fact, all evidence I found was the OPPOSITE of the “official story”.

    If anyone researches any of these government/media (the same entities???) “official story”s, you’ll find they’re lying and have no evidence.

    THEN…the tactic they use against those questioning them is to RIDICULE them with their “official mainstream media”.

    Here’s an example:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDvA2a6gfPg

    Here’s another example:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xMzb-SvWcE

    Here’s another example:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-UNwE1pWU

    I can give you more examples, they are like a PLAYBOOK. I wonder if they’re breifed by the CIA with “the playbook” or “script”.

    And then there’s this:

    CIA Invention of the Phrase, ‘Conspiracy Theory’ to Block Questions on JFK’s Assassination, is “One of the Most Successful Propaganda Initiatives of All Time.”

    http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/07/cia-invention-of-the-phrase-conspiracy-theory-to-block-questions-on-jfks-assassination-is-one-of-the-most-successful-propaganda-initiatives-of-all-time-2453052.html
    GEE! IT’S EXACTLY WHAT ALL THOSE VIDEOS DO!!!!!!!!
    So, an ESSENTIAL part of the government/mainstream media pushing farcical evidence-free “official story”s is to do the “conspiracy theory” ridicule. It’s not one or the other, it’s BOTH.

    • And btw, guess how I found out about this 911/Super Bowl truther? I was on my way to work and listening to a sports channel on the radio, and the mainstream sports guy Erik Kuselias used “the script/playbook” and played the audio of the 911 guy and said, “listen to this NUTJOB, whatever penalty he gets by the police IT WON’T BE ENOUGH”.

      So it adds to my suspicion that EVERYONE in the mainstream, be it sports, “news”, etc…are they “briefed” or their jobs threatened or “it goes without saying” that they won’t have a job if they question “official story”s??? Because it’s 100% one way, what are the odds of that, being there’s literally MILLIONS of people who don’t believe the “official story” of 911?

      • Albury Smith

        There are undoubtedly Israeli intelligence operations going on in the US and many other nations, and Israel and US intel were aware of the threat from al Qaeda to various nations prior to 9/11. The August 6, 2001 PDB makes it very obvious that US intel knew that an attack in the US by bin Laden & AQ was very likely, but that they didn’t know how or when it would happen:

        http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/terrorism/80601pdb.html

        Spin it all you want, but your Fox “News” video does not implicate Israel in the al Qaeda suicide attacks of 9/11.

      • Albury Smith

        It’s a really HUGE conspiracy, Dan. Here are some more of us:
        https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/someoftheagencies%2Corganizationsandindivi
        Loads of them here too, including plaintiffs who don’t care if they win $314.5 million lawsuits, and FDNY who lost 343 of their colleagues on 9/11, but gave false testimony about the severity of the fires in WTC 7:
        http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20FCO%2020131204097
        I guess they haven’t seen the ReThink911 billboard in Times Square, ~4 miles from the federal courthouse in Manhattan where that appeal was heard, huh?

    • Albury Smith

      These weren’t “rogue elements of the U.S. government”:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW8_Zbsirdw

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVC4JBjtEE

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6obQ5naNn0

      From OBL’s 1998 (second) fatwa: “The ruling to kill the Americans
      and their allies-civilians and military-is an individual duty for every Muslim
      who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order
      to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and
      in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and
      unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty
      God, ‘and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,’ and
      ‘fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail
      justice and faith in God [blah, blah, blah…]'”

      • “Muslims” didn’t do 911:

        MASSIVE BIN LADEN BULLSHIT:

        http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/2011/05/big-dans-big-news-may-2-2011.html

      • Mike G

        Osama Bin Laden is about the biggest “rogue element of the U.S. government” imaginable. Also, Al Quida is a completely manufactured entity, created by various intelligence agencies, including the those of the US. But I think you already know all this, don’t you, since you are obviously a paid troll (as noted by your repetition of “official” government propaganda, and constant use of ad hominem personal insults). Thanks for giving me a good laugh, at any rate, you transparent government shill.

        • Albury Smith

          You’re easily amused. My condolences, but your hero has been dead for
          more than 2-1/2 years; he was offed by the US government you know so little
          about. The Al Qaeda terrorist organization of which you’re equally ignorant was “manufactured” by him, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and other Arab-Afghans (look it up before posting any more of your simple-minded foolishness) in the late ’80s toward the end of the Soviet War in Afghanistan, and has been a very real threat to the US and other nations for more than two decades. Fatwas are declarations of war, and he and his pals wrote two of them against the US—one in 1996 and a second in ’98.
          Attacking me personally for posting their own words in both videos and documents is the height of stupidity. You are not smarter than every government, intelligence agency, and legitimate media source in the entire world:

          https://www.google.com/#q=al+qaeda&tbm=nws

          and since you’re incapable of contributing anything but childish fantasies and personal insults, please try to find a new hobby.

          • Mike G

            Thanks for confirming all my suspicions about you in one comment. Well done!

          • Albury Smith

            You’ve confirmed mine too, but we’re not the topic here.

          • ConspiricyMindedTI

            Albury Smith you are a traitor to The Constitution and the people of the United States of America either on purpose or through stupidity. These guys calling you a shill, are being nice. Your a fucking traitor troll. Get the fuck out of America, go to China you totalitarian fuck. We know there is a cyber astroturf army that patrols the Internet and you are one of them. You are all a bunch of fucking traitors. You are on the wrong side of what is going to be a god damn civil war. I do not fight nazis because I will win I fight them because they are nazis.

          • Albury Smith

            Move
            to Pakistan where your friends are:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW8_Zbsirdw

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVC4JBjtEE

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6obQ5naNn0

            From
            OBL’s 1998 (second) fatwa: “The
            ruling to kill the Americans and their allies-civilians and military-is an
            individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is
            possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy
            mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all
            the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in
            accordance with the words of Almighty
            God, ‘and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,’ and
            ‘fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail
            justice and faith in God [blah, blah, blah…]'”

          • Albury Smith

            The US fights al Qaeda because they are terrorists who murdered ~3000 innocent people in the US with suicide hijackings and crashes on 9/11, and have threatened “more Manhattans” if the US doesn’t leave all Muslim lands immediately. A traitor to the Constitution and the people of the United States of America, either on purpose or through stupidity, blames his own government for al Qaeda suicide attacks on the US, and exculpates the terrorists who were actually behind them.
            Did any of that register with you?

  • +1 for courage!

    • Albury Smith

      -10 for ignorance & stupidity.

        • Albury Smith

          How did 5 Israeli guys on the NJ Turnpike aid 10 hijackers aboard AA 11 and UA 175, pray tell? If they were involved in the al Qaeda suicide attacks of 9/11, why would they publicly draw attention to themselves? I have quite a few box cutters, so does that make me a terrorist too?
          They were released by the FBI after weeks of interrogation, so didn’t the US care who murdered nearly 3000 innocent people on US soil? Please document some of the NYC attacks carried out by Israelis with vans full of explosives, not the one in 1993 by Ramzi Yousef and his pals in the basement of the North Tower which he freely admitted to at his sentencing hearing.
          The detained Israelis did not say they were there to document the event; they simply said they were doing that (as were HUNDREDS of other people).

      • I already schooled your ass over 9/11, Albury Smith. You and your cut and paste bullshit.

        Offer still stands.
        Let’s do the aluminum cuts through steel test via dual with swords. I get the steel one and you get an aluminum one.

        • Albury Smith

          Tell American & United Airlines what happens when 767s hit steel-framed hi-rises at ~440 and ~540 mph.
          No-planers suck…

          • Logical fallacy #4 from you (yes I am counting). Plea to emotion.

            You need a new schtick . This one ain’t working.

            Maybe you should throw in a “Do it for the children!” while your at it.

          • Albury Smith

            I’m sure American & United Airlines get all emotional over losing passengers, crew members, and 767s worth ~$130 million each, but my “plea” is to common sense and normal vision. MANY videos showed what happened to UA 175, so maybe you should study Newton’s Laws instead of just jabbering stupidly about things you don’t understand.

          • Your plea is to emotion as if somehow murder is unworthy of SUBSTANTIVE inquiry if peoples feelings are hurt.

            You’ve created quite the public record for yourself of using logical fallacies.

            That’s all you have. Your trying to bluff with a shitty hand.

            As shown by your ad hominim attack about stupid jabbering and lack of comprehension.

            The last thing you want to talk about is Newton laws of motion an the physics of a collision.

            Things like the instantaneous peak impulse pressure exert of both surfaces and which object deforms and or shears first. (hint: It’s not the object with the lower shear strength)

            For the record, 550 MPH = 880 FPS
            Muzzle velocity of CO2 pellet gun = 900 FPS.

          • Albury Smith

            I’m sure there’s a message there somewhere. 550 mph is ~807 fps, and it’s sub-sonic. 767s can do it safely at 35,000′, and unsafely for at least short distances at sea level. While you’re telling American & United Airlines what “really” happened to their planes, contact Boeing and explain 767 airspeeds to them too.

          • Funny you should say that. Someone did ask 2 separate Boeing engineers.
            Boeing says their aircraft do not have enough thrust to fly 550 MPH at sea level. They also say that even if they did the air frame can not take the stress.

            Then of course there is John Lear , who is the only pilot to have EVERY airline certification available from the FAA saying it’s impossible.

          • Albury Smith

            When did Boeing ever say that? You’re obviously confused over the difference between “unsafe” and “impossible.”

  • Pronto

    Investigate Enron. Both presidents talked with the Taliban, but with Halliburton in charge, the decision was changed explicitly to plan B: Bomb the problem into the stoneage and seize the wealth and control of mineral rich Afghanistan. Everything else was simply stagecraft with Saudi Arabia provideding the sleeper cell. The war in Afghanistan, like the housing bubble that supported it, was financed with considerable money from China.

  • jadan

    Inside job to create political will for the “war on terror”, and to demonstrate to those with eyes to see a new directed energy weapon. Analogous to the demonstration of the atomic bomb on Japan.

    • Albury Smith

      Here are some of the insiders behind the 9/11 suicide attacks:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW8_Zbsirdw

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVC4JBjtEE

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6obQ5naNn0

      From OBL’s 1998 (second) fatwa: “The ruling to kill the Americans
      and their allies-civilians and military-is an individual duty for every Muslim
      who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order
      to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and
      in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and
      unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty
      God, ‘and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,’ and
      ‘fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail
      justice and faith in God [blah, blah, blah…]'”

  • xoxxxo

    The Split — uses an iPod countdown program and the shadow of a “High School Physics” book to represent World Trade Center, Building #7 that fell into its own footprint at free fall speed (6.5 seconds) on the afternoon of September 11, 2001. We were told that fire caused it to fall, but that is impossible and defies the basic Laws of Physics. The title “The Split” has a number of meanings here, but ultimately it refers to a split with reality that occurred on that day (and obviously ever since). It also refers to the split in society…between those who are aware and those who are not.

    by artist Mark Dotzler

    More at The Split page: http://www.markdotzler.com/Mark_Dotzler/split.html

  • It is part of an ongoing, slow, but sure coup. So, it is an amalgamation of #2 and #3 it would seem.

  • Bev

    Follow the money. Where did the Pentagon’s 2 Trillion dollars go? Why did only the Pentagon’s accounting department personnel and computers get destroyed? How is it that the Pentagon was attached: Our military was not allowed to defend itself? I understand that Forbes (or was it Barron’s) was asked by the only trillionaires on the planet, not to list them among their yearly list of the richest people. So…reporters….

    • Bev

      Spelling correction:
      How is it that the Pentagon was attacked: Our military was not allowed to defend itself?

      • Albury Smith

        From commercial airliners? The Pentagon is less than one mile from Reagan National Airport, which has a runway pointed directly at its northeast corner.
        I hope you’re not serious…

        • Bev

          http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2012/01/aa-exposes-bushs-big-lie-flight-11-did.html

          AA Exposes Bush’s ‘Big Lie’: Flight 11 DID NOT FLY on 911!

          by Len Hart, The Existentialist Cowboy

          American Airlines is the source for information that AA Flights 11
          (North Tower) and 77 (Pentagon) did not fly on 911. If neither flew on
          911, the Bush ‘theory’ is a lie. If the Bush ‘theory’ is a lie, there
          remains only one explanation and that is: 911 was an inside job given a
          green-light by Bush himself.

          These flights are critical to the the government’s crumbling cover
          up! Conan Doyle, the brilliant creator of the character Sherlock Holmes,
          said: “When you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains however
          implausible must be the truth!” Bush’s official conspiracy theory of
          911 is not only impossible, it’s absurd and insulting to intelligent
          people!

          The Bush Conspiracy Theory is impossible! And it’s a Lie.

          • Albury Smith

            Then why did both airlines pay victims not covered by the 9/11 VCF?
            No-planers suck.

          • Bev

            Follow that money also, since there were no flights as reported by AA themselves, there were no passengers that were victims on flights that did not fly.

            So, are you a co-conspirator criminal? Or, criminal co-conspirator?

          • Albury Smith

            Then please explain why American Airlines settled with April Gallop and many other victims not covered by the 9/11 VCF.
            No-planers are even dumber that regular 9/11 truther nuts.

        • Transponder was off remember?
          Any US anti-aircraft system would have fired without a hitch.

          • Albury Smith

            Sure it would; who wouldn’t want innocent airline crews, passengers, and ~70 tons of 757 parts raining down on heavily-populated suburban DC? It would only happen every time there was a transponder glitch or one in your imaginary anti-aircraft system. If you really believe your own crap, avoid flying into or out of Reagan National and Dulles International Airports. Take the short bus, the same way you went to your special ed classes.

          • Sheep Killa

            Just another fruitcake spreading his pro Israeli bullshit. Tell us about the Saudi flights and funding huh monkey boy? Hmmm
            Or Yassin al-kadi, PTECH, Guardium, Mitre Corp and.
            Find another hobby. You’re an idiot.

    • Bev

      Link to above info source, but time on audio not yet found again:

      Time Monk Radio Network
      http://timemonkradio.com/threads/the-plane-truth.281/
      http://www.youtube.com/user/TimeMonkRadioNetwork
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIt_WQu4pJw&feature=youtu.be

      Also @ http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/11/link-112413.html#comment-1649995

      According to Jim Willie, Forbes was asked to not report on the
      wealthiest of people…looks like Bloomberg also is self limiting to
      Billionaires, and not the Trillionaires who do anything for that money.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIt_WQu4pJw&feature=youtu.be

      • Bev

        The top video above has changed. Click on link instead of videos above in case they change again.

        • Bev

          It changed. Do NOT click on video above.

        • Bev

          In the video Jim Willie states that the Bushs asked Fortune magazine not to list them as the Trillionaires they are in the magazine’s yearly list of the wealthiest people. Trillionaires. Follow the money.

      • Bev

        Less time than the video is in writing by Jim Willie who calls himself the Golden Jackass. I think he is brave.

        But, I think the people at the American Monetary Institute http://www.monetary.org/ are also very brave, and I want them to address the huge funding necessary to solve desperate problems of the economy, money, jobs, environment, climate change, and Fukushima with a public/government Debt-Free money to get these massive, generational projects attempted for the common good, for all our survival. AMI is a non-partisan group working for everyone and that is a strength. I only mention them in this unrelated context, because as much as I think Jim Willie is brave, his reliance on a gold/silver solution to survive economic upheaval only helps a few and does not address Fukushima nor climate change for all of us. So, I do want AMI to win this economic justice battle for hearts and minds.

        Now, back to Jim Willie’s brave, brief statement on 911: http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article44487.html

        911 struck the nation. After six to eight weeks the Jackass saw the
        inside job, saw the elements of the Nazi Playbook (for which death
        threats were given later), and saw the countless inconsistencies that
        were reminiscent of the Kennedy assassination, which also had countless
        inconsistencies. The events seemed clearly in sequence to be a launch
        of American Fascist State, with the stamps being the Patriot Act seal
        and the dismissal of the Constitution. President Bush II openly cited
        the shredding of it, a mere piece of paper. As the Gestapo apparatus
        was constructed with Homeland Security, the parallels with Nazi roots
        was obvious to the Jackass, but the death threat kept the volume down
        in writings and discussions.

        ……..

        So, I am grateful for this discussion by all to try to solve our common problems.

    • Albury Smith

      Hani Hanjour hit a random spot on the west side of the Pentagon, and this alleged $2(.3) trillion referenced by the SecDef was DoD waste, fraud by contractors, and other government and civilian malfeasance over decades. One 757 crash does not wipe out the records of it, assuming that they even existed, and tracking down and prosecuting every crook involved was not what Rumsfeld was suggesting; preventing more of it in the future was.
      The US military was obviously not prepared to defend itself from airliners being used as weapons, and did not have enough time to respond. Like Nidal Malik Hasan at Ft. Hood, Hanjour and 4 of his pals “defeated the entire US military.”

      • Bev

        From: http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-21-most-obvious-fatal-holes-in.html

        The 21 Most Obvious Fatal Holes in Bushco’s Version of 911
        by Len Hart, The Existentialist Cowboy

        There were no Arab names on the official list of those autopsied
        from the Pentagon. The source for this is Dr. Olmsted, who filed an FOIA
        request. Olmsted had made the point that “passenger lists” are just
        names that someone has typed up on a piece of paper. It is not evidence.
        A coroner’s report, however, is evidence admissible in court. In this
        case, the coroner’s report disproves Bush’s official conspiracy theory
        of 911. There are NO ‘hijacker’ names nor, for that matter, any Arab
        names on the list. Secondly, ONLY Pentagon victims are known to
        have been interred; they were were interred at Arlington. Again –where
        are the hijackers? Where are the Arabs? Where are the passengers?

        On that question, a clue may have been found in an early story from
        the BBC. They interviewed some of the ‘alleged’ hijackers AFTER they had
        been pronounced DEAD by the U.S. kiss-up media.
        …………..

        From: http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2012/01/aa-exposes-bushs-big-lie-flight-11-did.html

        AA Exposes Bush’s ‘Big Lie’: Flight 11 DID NOT FLY on 911!
        by Len Hart, The Existentialist Cowboy

        American Airlines is the source for information that AA Flights 11
        (North Tower) and 77 (Pentagon) did not fly on 911. If neither flew on
        911, the Bush ‘theory’ is a lie. If the Bush ‘theory’ is a lie, there
        remains only one explanation and that is: 911 was an inside job given a
        green-light by Bush himself.

        snip

        To make the point: the source for these changes is American Airlines
        by making changes to Wikipedia. The ‘story’ is not about Wiki. The
        story is about a fact that is consistent with the observed fact that 1)
        no wreckage traceable to any airliner was ever recovered at the
        Pentagon. That the flight was not scheduled AND 2) that no wreckage
        traceable to the flight was ever found nor revealed by Bushco.

        Instead, Bushco ordered the felony destruction of evidence i.e,
        wreckage that most certainly would have been verified and traced –not to
        an airliner but to a U.S. Global Hawk!

        The ONLY rotor that was documented despite Bush’s crime of felony
        destruction of evidence is evidence in itself that it was NOT an
        airliner that struck the Pentagon.

        The story is about how ‘corrections’ to the official story originated with and from inside AA.

        The story is about the fact that the evidence that Flights 11 and 77
        were not flying on 911 comes from American Airlines itself. Just as no
        wreckage traceable to any 757 was ever recovered from the Pentagon,
        there is, likewise, no indisputable or official record that the flight
        –mothballed for some six months –was ever put back into service. And, if
        it had been, the burden of proof is upon Bushco and his league of liars
        to SHOW ME THE WRECKAGE!!!!

        According to a Freedom of Information Act reply from the U.S.
        Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS), the last known pre-9/11
        flights for three of the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks
        of September 11, 2001 took place in December, 2000, nine months before
        the attacks, while no pre-9/11 final flight information was provided for
        American Airlines flight 77 (N644AA).

        snip

        No wreckage traceable to a 757 was ever found at the Pentagon.

        One would not expect to find wreckage of a flight never flown. What
        is significant with respect to the changes to Wiki, with respect to
        BTS/NTSB records is that the burden of proof is now placed upon Bushco
        to prove its theory. Bush et al should be compelled to prove the
        official theory –or face charges resulting from the probable cause that
        Bush himself and high ranking members of his administration participated
        in the crimes of mass murder and high treason!

        Photos of an engine rotor appear to depict an engine
        used in the Global Hawk, a payload carrying missile that was, according
        to Britain’s International Television News, flown from the US to
        Australia completely by remote control. “A robot plane has made aviation
        history by becoming the first unmanned aircraft to fly across the
        Pacific Ocean.”

        Britain’s ITN continued:

        “The Global Hawk, a jet-powered aircraft with a wingspan
        equivalent to a Boeing 737, flew from Edwards Air Force Base in
        California and landed late on Monday at the Royal Australian Air Force
        base at Edinburgh, in South Australia state… It flies along a
        pre-programmed flight path, but a pilot monitors the aircraft during its
        flight via a sensor suite which provides infra-red and visual images.”

        ITN quoted Australian Global Hawk manager Rod Smith: “The aircraft
        essentially flies itself, right from takeoff, right through to landing,
        and even taxiing off the runway.”

        ‘The Missile that Struck this Building’ –Don Rumsfeld

        The Global Hawk is a much better candidate for what Rumsfeld called
        ‘…the missile that struck this building’ than a 757. Here’s what you
        need to know about the Pentagon.

        Only minutes after the strike, [see pic above] there is no sign of an airliner at all!!

        No wreckage traceable to a 757 was ever recovered.

        Only ONE engine rotor (seen in photos) was recovered! This rotor is
        about one third the diameter of a 757 rotor, i.e about the size of a
        U.S. Global Hawk rotor.

        A 757 has two rotors, each of which are nearly three times the size
        of the SINGLE rotor located at the Pentagon. Again –only one rotor was
        found in Pentagon debris.

        Engine rotors are made of a Steel/Titanium alloy to withstand high
        temps inside jet engines and would have been found had they been there.

        Flight 77 could not and did not crash into the Pentagon. That may be
        because Flt 77 had been mothballed and had not flown for some 6 months
        and that’s according to airline records.

        No Arabs Were on Board 77

        If no Arabs were on board Flight 77, Bush’s theory must be trashed!
        There is not only no evidence to support the theory that Arab terrorists
        hijacked 77, there is every reason to believe that none of ever got on
        board. There are no Arabs on the only Pentagon ‘evidence’ that is
        admissible in court: the ‘Official Autopsy Report’ of Pentagon victims.

        The autopsy report was released to Dr. Olmsted in response to his
        FOIA request. In a ‘neat’ cover-up, a 911 memorial lists all victims of
        whatever it was that crashed into the Pentagon. At the same time, 77
        victims were said to have been buried at Arlington National Cemetery.
        All are Pentagon employees! Where, then, are the passengers buried? I
        would be very surprised to learn that there were passengers on a flight
        that cannot be proven to have existed.

        Whatever crashed into the Pentagon was described by a witnesses as
        looking like a ‘hump-backed whale’. Rumsfeld himself called it a
        missile: Below: a US Global Hawk painted to look like an AA airliner. It
        is both a ‘missile’ and it also has a hump back! It ‘fills the bill’.

        • Albury Smith

          What official list? All of the victims aboard AA 77 except one small infant were forensically identified, and some of the hijackers were later on:

          http://www.newsweek.com/terror-remains-911-hijackers-78327

          Since you’re apparently confused over what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11, please feel free to read and learn:

          https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary

          and:

          https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/pentagonattackpage2

          “Normal” 9/1 truther nuts are stupid enough, but no-planers are contemptible.

          • Bev

            co-criminal conspirator?

          • Albury Smith

            Care to throw a verb in there?

          • Bev

            ? is verb enough as it asks a question. However, co- is redundant. It should read:
            Criminal Conspirator?
            or
            Conspiracy Criminal?
            to correct and parallel the put-off phrase of Conspiracy Theorists.

          • Albury Smith

            Whom are you accusing of that? These people actually were, regardless of your denial problems:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnhJwxYsomw

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW8_Zbsirdw

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVC4JBjtEE

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6obQ5naNn0

            From OBL’s 1998 (second) fatwa: “The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies-civilians and military-is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, ‘and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,’ and ‘fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God [blah, blah, blah…]'”

          • Bev

            from: http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2012/01/aa-exposes-bushs-big-lie-flight-11-did.html

            AA Exposes Bush’s ‘Big Lie’: Flight 11 DID NOT FLY on 911!
            by Len Hart, The Existentialist Cowboy

            Recognizing lies for what they are is a part of the process of growing
            up! America, it is time to grow up! It is time to confront this heinous
            pack of lies! It is time to insist that the Obama administration begin a
            REAL investigation of 911.

          • Albury Smith

            Post a statement to that effect from the airline itself, not from some crackpot.

          • Bev

            Len Hart is a true and brave journalist with many years of working for major networks. Dan Rather and Bill Moyers should send him flowers for showing them what bravery is like.

          • Albury Smith

            Len Hart’s a one-trick pony who blames da Joos for deadly al Qaeda suicide attacks, and tries to stifle anyone who disagrees with his nonsense. Before I was banned by Progressive-Tough-Liberal OpEdNews for no legitimate reason, Hart flagged every comment I made there and attacked me personally. The man’s a walking virus.

          • Bev

            No. Wrong again. He blames da Bush.

          • Albury Smith

            Anyone but the al Qaeda terrorists who actually did it. President Bush’s goofy kid’s been out of the WH for more than 5 years, so does he now blame Obama?

          • Sheep Killa

            Assberry…. post up a vid of the OBL burial at sea…. oooops. You have zero. Just like the soil and ground water samples from Shanksville. Zero jet fuel contamnation. Lol

          • Bev

            Pardon me…Co-conspirator is correct usage…rather than co-criminal conspirator.

            http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/co-conspirator?s=t

            “a fellow conspirator; associate or collaborator in a conspiracy”

            So, co-conspirator criminal?

          • Where did the hijacker reference sample come from?

            That Newsweek story is worse than pathetic.

            “Four of the DNA profiles from the Pennsylvania crash site didn’t match material provided by the families of passengers and crew. By simple process of elimination, Smith knew these were the hijackers.”

            BWAHAHA!!! Now ain’t that scientific.

          • Albury Smith

            Read the article again. Move your lips a little if that helps you.

          • Where did the hijacker reference sample come from?

            That Newsweek story is worse than pathetic.

            “Four of the DNA profiles from the Pennsylvania crash site didn’t match material provided by the families of passengers and crew. By simple process of elimination, Smith knew these were the hijackers.”

            BWAHAHA!!! Now ain’t that scientific.

          • Government shill, and not very good at it: Albury Smith.

          • Albury Smith

            I’m not the topic here.

      • Your an idiot or a liar.
        The US was prepared to respond. Operation MASCAL.
        Not to mention fixed surface to air missiles and Manpads at the Pentagon.

        • Albury Smith

          If I were an idiot or a liar, I’d agree with you. Fixed SAMs at the Pentagon less than a mile from Reagan National Airport is one of the stupidest ideas imaginable, and MASCAL debunks your crap about the Pentagon defending itself, since it deals with “MASS CASUALTIES” like the crash of AA 77 AFTER they happen, not preventing them.
          “Your” [sic] the idiot, and the liar.

          • US anti-aircraft missiles will not fire at a civilian aircraft with active transponder.

            Manpads have an effective range of 10KM

            Fixed Surface to air have a range of over 100 KM.

            Nearness to an airport is immaterial with that little thing called target acquisition.

            No airplanes would be hit by accident as you are implying.

            Enough with the playing stupid though. The DoD was doing terrorism hijack drills the very day of 9/11. Obviously they planned for the drill. They didn’t simply ad-lib when they came to work that morning.

            Doing a drill is the very definition of being prepared

            so the statement

            “The US military was obviously not prepared to defend itself from airliners being used as weapon”

            is horseshit.

          • Albury Smith

            Doing a MASCAL drill is the very definition of being prepared for mass casualties AFTER an attack, not preventing one. Who operating an armed manpad in the US had a shoot-down order on 9/11 and knew what to aim at, and how many of these shoulder-fired SAMs have ever been shot into US airspace? Prior to 9/11/01, the DoD had never done any drills on a 9/11-style attack, and the only sure way they had to stop more crashes was the nationwide ATC Zero order given by the FAA.
            You’re the one peddling horseshit.

          • Sheep Killa

            Better do better research. MASCAL had everything to do with a plane hitting the Pentagon. Hmmmmmm. “We could never have imagined planes flying into buildings.”

      • Sheep Killa

        Assberry. Not prepared huh? Like the beautiful lie “We could never have imagined planes flying into buildings.” Lol. 46 training exercises on 911. Wanna talk about Operation MASCAL and Amalgam Virgo?
        The newly reinforced wall of the Pentagon was hit by chance? Hahahahaha
        Sorry kid. You’re a joke.

  • FACTMAN

    Lets start with a little Technical info: Commercial airliners are sent radio messages via the Aircraft Communications, Addressing and Reporting System ( ACARS ) from grid of radio towers that blanket the country. The system is similar to cell phone communications where signal strength is used to negotiate the best tower for sending the message. Like Cell phone towers the ACARS radio stations have limited range. All ACARS messages are logged and the log contains the at least the following:

    Sending time; day of the month and exact Universal Time
    Aircraft Registration Number
    3 letter code of the Radio Ground Station
    Flight Number
    Departure and Destination Airports ( 3 char codes )
    Message text
    Name of Sender
    Reception time in aircraft; day of month and exact Universal time.

    According to the Official 9/11 Commission report on 9/11/2001 United Airlines Flight 93 crashed into a field near Shanksville, Pa. Amazingly UA flight 93 received a message from ACARS 7 minutes after it “crashed” and the message was sent from a radio station near Champaign, Illinois which is 500 miles from Shanksville. Not only that UA 93 was sent 7 messages on 9/11 from Pittsburgh, Canton, Cleveland, Toledo, Toledo ( 2nd msg ), Fort Wayne before the last one from Champaign. In 2003. Robert Marr told the 9/11 Commission that UA 93 was circling over Chicago on 9/11 but didn’t mention the time. Amazingly in the Official 9/11 Report in 2002 also mentions that there were 2 phone calls made from the plane in the Central Time Zone on 9/11 as well. That would make it at least 400 miles from the western most part of the official flight path. .

    A very similar bit of magic happened on 9/11 with United Airlines Flight 175 which allegedly crashed into the 2nd WTC tower. It was sent a message 20 minutes after it crashed from Pittsburgh International Airport which is about 350 miles from NYC. ACARS messages DON’T travel hundreds of miles. The official report said the last 60 miles of the flight was covered in 4 minutes and 40 seconds or at 774 MPH. That’s over Mach1. The report also mentioned the Boeing descended at over 6,000 feet per minute or 100 feet per second and 2 passengers talked to their families and during the drop and never mentioned the extreme descent. The conversations that allegedly occurred were tampered with. The transcripts don’t match the voice recordings and the order of the various pieces of the conversations were moved around and/or deleted.

    By the way this information came from official government documents in the National Archives.

    We can thank Elias Davidsson ( yes, 2 Ss ) for providing this information in his book “ Hijacking America’s Mind on 9/11 – Counterfeiting Evidence.”

    The official report has more holes in it than Swiss cheese and smells like Limburger.

    The following is a summation by the author from the back cover of the book, “Readers are presented with numerous examples where U.S. authorities suppressed crucial information, appear to have forged and planted evidence, attempted to intimidate witnesses, and publicized deceptive and mendacious reports. While this book concentrates on a relatively narrow aspect of 9/11, we still need to ask how entire nations were deluded within hours to believe in what can be designated as a surreal legend.”

    Each of the flights as well as the phone calls are analyzed in depth by the author. Plus eye witnesses said the airplane that hit the second tower was gray and didn’t have windows. Independent pictures from ground level at ground zero show that the plane had a pod attacked to the bottom of the fuselage. No commercial air liners have such a pod but military 767’s do.

  • Rehmat

    In an interview in 2012, Israeli author, Barry Chamish admitted that the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack was an ‘in-house’ job executed by Bush administration with the help of local Zionists and Israeli Mossad. Chamish also claimed that Israel’s President Shimon Peres and Defense Minister Ehud Barak were behind the assassination of former prime Robin, President John F. Kennedy and 9/11 terrorist attacks.

    http://rehmat1.com/2012/08/22/israeli-jew-author-zionists-did-911/