They’re Going to Dump the Fukushima Radiation Into the Ocean

Yup … They’re Going to Dump It

Tepco is planning on dumping all of the radioactive water stored at Fukushima into the ocean.

The industry-controlled nuclear regulators are pushing for dumping the radiation, as well.

As EneNews reports:

Juan Carlos Lentijo, head of IAEA’s mission to Fukushima Daiichi, Dec. 4, 2013: “Controlled discharge is a regular practice in all the nuclear facilities in the world. And what we are trying to say here is to consider this as one of the options to contribute to a good balance of risks and to stabilize the facility for the long term.”

Shunichi Tanaka, chairman of Japan’s Nuclear Regulation Authority, Dec. 4, 2013: “You cannot keep storing the water forever. We have to make choice comparing all risks involved.”

Xinhua, Dec. 4, 2013: Lentijo said that TEPCO should weigh the possible damaging effects of discharging toxic water against the total risks involved in the overall decommissioning work process. […] Tanaka highlighted the fact that while highly radioactive water could be decontaminated in around seven years, the amount of water containing tritium will keep rising, topping 700,000 tons in two years. […] nuclear experts have repeatedly pointed out that [tritium] is still a significant radiation hazard when inhaled, ingested via food or water, or absorbed through the skin. […] fisherman, industries and fisheries bodies in the Fukushima area and beyond in Japan’s northeast, have collectively baulked at the idea of releasing toxic water into the sea […] TEPCO will be duty-bound to submit assessments of the safety and environmental impact […]

NHK, Dec. 4, 2013: IAEA team leader Juan Carlos Lentijo […] said it is necessary and indispensable to assess the impact the tritium discharge might have on human health and the environment, and to get government approval as well as consent from concerned people.

Japan Times, Dec. 4, 2013: “Of course . . . public acceptance for this purpose is necessary,” said Lentijo, adding strict monitoring of the impact of the discharge would also be essential.

AFP, Dec. 4, 2013: [L]ocal fishermen, neighbouring countries and environmental groups all oppose the idea.

See also: Gundersen: They want to dump all Fukushima’s radioactive water in Pacific — Tepco: It will be diluted, then released — Professor suggests pumping it out in deep ocean (VIDEOS)

In the real world, there is no safe level of radiation.

And there are alternatives.

Dr. Arjun Makhijani  – a recognized expert on nuclear power, who has testified  before Congress, served as an expert witness in Nuclear Regulatory Commission proceedings, and been interviewed by many of the largest news organizations – told PBS in March:

We actually sent a proposal to Japan two years ago, some colleagues of mine and I, saying you should park a supertanker or a large tanker offshore, and put the water in it, and send it off someplace else so that the water treatment and the water management is not such a huge, constant issue. But [the Japanese declined].

Tepco – with no financial incentive to actually fix things – has been insanely irresponsible and has only been pretending to contain Fukushima. And see this.

Unfortunately, Japan has devolved into crony capitalism … and even tyranny.

So instead of doing something to contain the radiation, they’re going to dump it.

Postscript: In related news, the Japanese government has embarked on a massive program of burning radioactive waste throughout Japan … instead of encapsulating it in glass or otherwise containing it.

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  • Tonto

    Dumping highly toxic scientific trash into the ocean is not a new concept. NASA since JFK has been doing exactly the same thing. That is where the Space Shuttle Challenger ended up, dumped into the ocean. Every nuclear-powered satellite ever launched by NASA or the DoD has been designed by scientists with the dump-it-into-the-ocean scheme built into the launch plan.

    The current plan for disposing of Syrian chemical weapons is to dump them into the ocean.

    The criminals behind this anti-environmental scientific wizardry are ubiquitous. Science is full of great ideas, ideas that ignore the constant degradation of the planet’s unique, human-sustaining ecosystem.

    The criminal scientists who work for TEPCO are no different from any other scientists working anywhere else in the world. Every scientist is an immoral, environmental criminal.

    • anon

      Including all the scientists who invented the Internet and the computer which you use to spew your uninformed bullshit. What was the last science class you passed? Clearly you didn’t make it to physics, chemistry, or environmental science.

      • Tonto

        You obviously have never considered the disastrous ecological pollution created by the manufacture and disposal problem of so many computers and related equipage necessary for the Internet.

        And as for your holier-than-thou-environmental-scientists, these fiends are compiling a knowledge set that includes information concerning exactly how to destroy the habitability of the planet. Think about that. And think about the fact that your Internet is spreading that dangerous scientific knowledge set over the whole planet.

        You obviously never considered that every scientific knowledge set ever compiled has been misused by humanity from its inception.

        Your tripe is the but the typical “uninformed [scientific] bullshit” that comes from your arrogant immoral crowd of delusional dreamers born and bred to be mindless and immature Star Trek fans.

        Every scientist is an immoral environmental criminal. The ethics of these TEPCO criminal-scientists are not in the least bit atypical of the ethics of every scientist. Every scientist thinks their work is above reproach, when in fact, every scientific venture is nothing more than a selfish, egotistical, fiendish and heinous grasp for fame and fortune.

        Scientists want us to believe theirs is a search for godliness. But they have only embraced the deviltry of witchcraft on a grand and modern scale. Science is completely immoral, because science is a wholly species-suicidal belief system.

        • freedom74

          Morality is not a scientific pursuit. You don’t seem to understand the difference between science, ethics and philosophy. You are insulting and pedantic while being completely off base though. Congrats!

          • Tonto

            You hold a very high opinion of science, if you differentiate it from ethics and philosophy, as if it were rock-solid and god-given. Science is simply another methodology, quite akin to witchcraft. Science is a suicidal methodology, as it turns out.

            Reality is not scientific. That’s an incredibly laughable assertion. Reality is categorical, being what it is, one off, infinitely complex, constantly changing and never returning to the same starting point. Science can measure none of that.

            Science is but a completely inadequate analysis of our infinitely complex reality. Science is the road to infinite delusion, and nothing more.

          • http://resurgenceseries.com/ Sacha Valero

            Why is it that you humanity haters love to use the technology you condemn and never just kill yourselves?

          • Tonto

            Feeling threatened, claustrophobic, a little bit of shame too?

          • http://resurgenceseries.com/ Sacha Valero

            Threatened by someone on the other end of an internet connection? Nope.

            I’m not entirely sure what claustrophobia has to do with your childish remarks. I may be a tad ashamed that I “peeked” at my buddies older sister when she was changing but, that was twenty years ago. Before the interwebs were being trolled by pseudo-intellectuals like yourself.

          • Tonto

            You sound like you feel threatened, claustrophobic and a little ashamed. Otherwise, why are you suggesting suicide? If you mean to defend science, be my guest. You are not doing so well thus far.

            What I have been saying is fleshed-out better when someone like yourself honestly takes up the task of defending science and technology. Are you up for it? is the only question here. Can you muster a real defense of science?

            Telling someone to kill themselves and that they are pseudo-intellectuals trolling the Internet, is just inane rhetoric. Put your arguments in writing. This board is open. Read the articles for a few weeks. You’ll see me post as “Tonto”. The real name is Don Robertson. I live in Maine, and have lived here for the past 24 years. I find others respond better to Tonto, than my real name. But I am not anonymous at all. I live in Limestone, Maine, 250 miles northeast of Montreal, Quebec. I am a mile from the Canadian border, which is to the east of my location.

            You are welcome to be a my sounding board, if you are not feeling threatened, claustrophobic and a little bit ashamed of your inability to rationally defend your beliefs about science and technology. In fact, I welcome all comers, and have been welcoming them for a good deal of time. None has fared very well.

            Right now, I only post on the GW board. I am not here to win friends. I am here to help myself think about what it is I have come to understand. I certainly could be mistaken in my beliefs. I would be the first to admit I have made plenty of mistakes in my life. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

            Let ‘er rip.

          • freedom74

            No one has to defend science. You are using it now and everyday, Q.E.D., you are not really anti-science, you are just a crazy dude on the internet.

            You don’t use common words and phrases the same way other people do, why would someone want to argue psycho semantics with you?

          • Tonto

            I get it. Everyone who expresses an opinion not in line with your point of view is “crazy”, right? LoL

            You’ve done a great job defending science and technology. Bravo, Bozo.

          • Rocky Racoon

            So you benefit from all the good green grown in the eastern regions of La Belle Province. It’s true?

          • Rocky Racoon

            I bet she knew and pretended not to notice…..your feeling guilty for nothing.
            Cheers,
            RR

          • Rocky Racoon

            I hate the inhumane way we subject science to the profit motive instead of furthering human development. I mean if they can’t make a buck off it it doesn’t get done. That is not necessary and I object.

          • freedom74

            Says the guy while typing his crazy rant on a computer made by, well, science.

            Science is the study of physical, measurable reactions. I prefer that to “you are sick because you are possessed by demons” or “fire burns because of the fire spirit trapped inside”.

            You are ascribing a lot of things to this “science”. I have hard time believing you are using the word the same way most people would use it.

            Very mystical, pop fiction, anti-reality of you. You must feel very wise and edgy.

            Even before the scientific method, people killed, raped, and destroyed with regularity, have an anti-science stance will not change the nature of the human animal.

          • Rocky Racoon

            WEll I believe that a material world exists independent of my consciousness of it but is also knowable to me….the official pursuit of science is to uncover as much as we can about the world around us but we should never forget that we are part and parcel natural beings just as the trees birds and bees we are biological beings and we had better appreciate just how dependent we are on natural world for our existence. How we have alienated ourselves from nature instead of trying to learn from it and harmonize with it is a rather recent phenomena no?

      • Rocky Racoon

        science has been suborned to the profit motive unfortunately.

  • colinjames71

    There’s bad ideas, there’s really bad ideas, there’s unbelievably psychotically horribly bad ideas, and then there’s this.

    • Zharkov

      Your comment does not refer to my suggestion but rather refers to dumping radioactive water into the ocean without cleanup first. I think my idea is feasible for the most dangerous radioactive elements. Other radioactive pollutants such as radioactive iodine, etc. have shorter half-lives that may be less of a problem to ocean life. Of course, breaking down water into the component elements takes longer than dumping it into the ocean, but death of the oceanic food chain is the probable outcome of dumping. Breaking down the water will eliminate that probability.

      • colinjames71

        I think you meant to reply to someone else? Anyways I suppose only the most dangerous substances really matter in any case, as in, that will be the criteria for evaluating the potential damage. Unless there’s synergistic effects I’m not aware of… isn’t there some kind of filtering process they could do? You’d think there’s no way they could away with this. Insanity.

      • http://www.markmccandlish.com/ Mark McCandlish

        It is a common misconception that isotopes with a shorter half-life are less dangerous. In point of fact, they are far more dangerous. Take Caesium 137 for example. It has a half-life of around thirty years. One might think that this is far better than an isotope with a half-life of 200,000 years. But it is not. You see, the shorter half-life indicates that the decay process occurs more quickly, and therefore the intensity of radiation emissions is much higher over a shorter time span. A physicist who worked on the first Hydrogen bomb once told me that the most dangerous isotope of all is one that has a half-life matching the average lifespan of a human being: around 75 years. It happens to be an isotope of Cobalt. A mere two pounds of this isotope broken down to nanoparticle size and dispensed in the atmosphere would kill every living organism on the planet within two years. And this is why the idea of dumping this radioactive water in the ocean is about as incredibly stupid as it gets. Frankly, if this takes place without IAEA intervention, I think the U.S. ought to take military action against Japan. The entire Pacific Ocean will be dead within ten years otherwise. The ecological consequences are beyond imagination. Think of what it will be like if the only Dolphins and whales of any kind left in the world are the few in aquatic parks. Think of never having another Tuna fish sandwich– or any fish meal EVER again. That’s how bad it will be.

        • Angel McLelland Nicke

          Point on Mr. McCandish

        • 2centsforyou

          Eye opener,big time,thank you for your posting it

  • radii

    at the very least they could build a huge tube that runs along the seafloor to an oceanic trench to keep it out of the human food chain … Russia built the sarcophagus round Chernobyl in a matter of months … what is taking usually amazing Japan so long to cordon off and bury that place?

    • Scotster

      The reactors were built on fill material that is located on what used to be a riverbed. The water table is very high here. Three of the reactor cores have already melted through the containment buildings are now below the water table, which leads right to the ocean. Containment here is much harder than at Chernobyl because of this.

      • Fred

        Built on fill material? And I thought the Japanese were smart.

  • MsBowes

    If they need to get rid of the radioactive water,why doesnt Tepco management drink it all,after all they want to poison the rest of us while safely away from the dangerzone in the rich lifestyle.Also IAEA can help drink it imho.they are part of the problem and of course public acceptance everyone is against it,will it stop them doing it,I dont think so.As for burning Radioactive waste….seriously.Im more supporting China against Japan every update I hear.

  • Kate Willens

    I wish there were some way of treating the water, somehow discharging the radiation. I wonder why this is being left to Tepco. It just doesn’t make sense.

    • http://www.markmccandlish.com/ Mark McCandlish

      There is a way to treat the water. The technology exists, here in America. I know the folks who are prepared to help. No one seems to be listening. Take a look at the following video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI8mmUgrWbY

  • Howard Treesong

    So, they prefer to dump it into the ocean instead of pumping it into a super tanker and wait for the radiactivity to sufficiently decay?

    And these people get the authority to make decisions like that?

    What the hell is going on in Japan? It’s like kindergarten.

    Can it be more simple than that? You put it into a ship and you wait for the radioactivity to decay. Of all the costs incurred, renting a ship like that can’t be the most expensive option.

    • dkshaw

      Do ships last 100,000 years?

      • Howard Treesong

        The point, which seems fairly obvious, is to contain the radioactivity in that mass of water.

        If you have it mix with the rest of the ocean, that’s a bigger problem than renting a few super tankers and pumping them full of that kind of water.

        It’s not an ideal solution, but we’re no longer in the world of ideal solutions, we’re now dealing with ‘how can we make this stuff not suck as bad as it does’.

        If one ship is feeling its age, and it wouldn’t have to do a lot, just sit somewhere stable, you could, hang on: get another ship.

        It sounds like a workable solution that’s better than just shrugging it off and going: we’ll just dump it in the ocean.

      • Orthospinedoc

        Well at least it can be contained until a better proposal or technology catches up and if the ship begins to rust or decay pump,it into a new one..but just pouring it into,the ocean is a very, very stupid and irresponsible idea.

  • George Smith

    Obama killing the US now they are going to kill the oceans.

  • Richard Hicks

    AND YOU JAPS ARE SHOWING THE WORLD THAT YOU DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!!

    • Justin

      As if fumbduck tafass Americans give a rats azz about anyone but themselves. And not even that much seeing as they’re too dumb and lazy to even care about what they ingest,who runs the country,what is legislated,what rights are trampled in the name of security,what nations are invaded murdering millions of people. Point your finger all u want. It’s no better than N Korea, China, Venezuela, Iran,Syria. In fact its probably worse. You the proverbial frogs are too stupid to realize u r being boiled.

  • Zharkov

    Here is my free Radioactive Water Disposal Plan –
    Place electrodes into the contaminated water and run current through them to electroplate the radioactive Uranium, Plutonium, and other metallic ions onto electrodes.

    During this process, water itself is broken down into hydrogen gas and oxygen gas. Oxygen can be released into the atmosphere, and the hydrogen can be saved and liquified for industrial uses.

    Eventually all of the water will be gone, and the radioactive contaminants will be contained on a very small number of electrodes which can be recycled.

    A battery of solar cells could be employed to power the process to avoid diverting extra power to the cleanup.

    • Pedecia

      Man i advice u to write to Tepco about this suggestions not on this blog! They for sure will not read it. I am not sure if may work but definitely they need some fresh ideas or a real brain to do the thinking for them! We r screwed!

    • Thorfinnss

      And sell or trade for oil with the Iranians to amortize the cost. Everyone wins!

  • Tyrone_X

    This is how Godzilla and his ilk were spawned, as I recall.

  • GENEIUS49

    The radio active contaminents SHOUNLD BE PUT INTO VERY SOLID CONTAINERS AND DROPPED INTO A SUBDUCTION ZONE ON THE SEA BEAD WERE THEY WOULD BE TAKEN DOWN TO THE ACTIVE PLATE WERE HEAT AND HI PRESSURE MAKE GOOD USE OF THE RADIO ACTIVITY .. THE HEAT IN THE MAGNA WOULD DEAL WITH THE WASTE IN A NATURAL WAY ?

  • TLJr

    Who’s gonna drive the boat?

  • 808Hater

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    TEPCO!

  • steelhead

    It’s always been the preferred choice. Feature not bug and you get rid of overpopulation and the 1% can hide in their nuclear shelters. Rockefeller is beaming.

  • Midndh

    Just use it as bong water. Marijuana fixes everything man.

    • youarestupidandugly

      Yes, it does. Marijuana is a really great thing.

  • Pedecia

    Not one wants this radioactive waste in the sea!! I live in Australia and already came news here about radioactive water from fukushima have reached our coasts. Just drink it you idiots! You caused this problem in the first place wanting to save the reactors and injecting sea water to cool them down only at the last possible second and only when was already too late! Congatulations and thank you for the bright future u r donating us and our children! Bastards!

    • Draebe Killas

      Glow in the dark isnt bright enough? Jeez, some people are so picky.

      • youarestupidandugly

        Draebe, shut up you imbecile. Better yet, take a swim in that radioactive goo, along with those two insane science lovers.

  • Joe__A

    Why not hook up with bottlers of mineral water? Bottle the water and market it as ‘powered water’ or something

    • justme

      Nuka Cola.

    • Draebe Killas

      A century ago radioactivity was new, exciting and good for you—at least if you believed the people selling radium pendants for rheumatism, all-natural radon water for vigor, uranium blankets for arthritis and
      thorium-laced medicine for digestion (you don’t even want to know about the radioactive suppositories).

      Been there, done that. We even sold devices to make your own radioactive water at home so you could enjoy the benefits all the time.

      I guess its been a while though, if they shipped it here we’d probly use it again.

      • Thorfinnss

        Take the same approach as fluoridation of water took. Convince the medical establishment that it confers health benefits and add to the water supply everywhere. Give it a catchy name – ‘Club of Rome Final Solution’ or some such.

        • youarestupidandugly

          Yes, all scientists are Satan worshippers and are Masons/Jesuits. They take orders from a small group of Jewish-Zionist elite, and want to kill 99% of humanity. Look it up, it’s on their list. It is called Agenda 21, or Operation End Game as they call it.

          All scientists are rapists, murderers, torturers and pedophiles, have no doubt about it. They are guilty for war crimes and genocides, and love Satan and the Rothschild (Rot’s child) scumbags.

          Science is Satan worship and witchcraft in disguise. The scientists (sorcerers) know it. Jesuits/Rothschilds control all the scientific groups and companies, and want to kill most of humanity and make the rest to worship The Antichrist. Bilderbergs are in it too.

      • Jarek Wiatr

        So U see how easy it is to flow with the main stream media and commit suicide just because they make it sound attractive – trendy. Irresponsibility of “illuminated scientist” creating freak – still deadly structures for your money. Think for yourself and get a chance to learn how nature is good to you and how easy it is to spoil the vast. Ask questions and use your rights – Greetings

      • Joe__A

        They are still selling radioactive bracelets and necklaces somewhere to give you ‘energy’. Yes, human kind is that stupid. Thanks for the reference to that article!

  • JdL

    All this mindless hysteria is indicative of the extreme state of ignorance in the world today.

    The volume of the earth’s oceans is about 1.4 BILLION cubic kilometers. That’s plenty to dilute the Fukushima radioactivity to completely safe levels.

    Get off your high horses, people! There’s been background radiation in the world since it was formed, and this release will not change it by any significant amount.

    • Rocky Racoon

      You missed to post about hot particles.
      RR

  • Pacific Lover

    If TEPCO and the Japanese government are willing to eat the fish from that area for a year then give them the go ahead, but I bet they wont want to !

  • Pacific Lover

    Hats off to you Tonto, for calling it how it is, I agree whole heartedly !

    • youarestupidandugly

      Agreed. All scientists are evil and worship Satan. Most scientists are also Jewish, which explains alot.

      Science is witchcraft and Satan worship in disguise, and the scientists -all of whom are Freemasons, by the way- know it. I miss the days of good old witch burnings.

  • Eric

    Are you all really this stupid?

    “In the real world, there is no safe level of radiation.”

    Really? You’d better move out of the universe then, since you’re exposed to more radiation from cosmic rays and the Sun than you’ll ever get from Fukushima. And stop eating bananas now before it’s too late!

    Even if they don’t treat the water they’ve been storing on site (which the article clearly stated they would be doing), it will only statistically raise the level of radiation in the oceans, and even then you’ll need some very sensitive test gear to measure it.

  • MrLiberty

    “Japan has devolved into crony capitalism.” Japan is following in the great tradition of their conquerors the US. We were a crony capitalist society well before we won WW2 and restructured their economy and for US too it has only gotten worse. Just look at how the US government actively protects the nuclear industry in this country from real costs, real responsibility and real accountability. The same is true for every major industry in this country.

    • sam little

      Japan isn’t really capitalist. They became a big government spending economy to prop up their bubble and avoid contraction, it happened, they spent more and their economy isn’t very productive and the state is huge. So say whatever you want, but you’re deluding yourself if you think Japan is genuinely free market.

      • Rocky Racoon

        Those reactor’s were designed by GE and American company I don’t know how many of the same faulty designs you have up and running in America but I know it is more than two and one is one to many.
        RR

        • sam little

          The anti nuclear lobby is a big reason that new safe reactors aren’t being built. But I agree with you about the faulty designs.

  • jack

    We should have nuked ALL those fucking Japs in 1945, not just Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

  • prov6yahoo

    Of course they are going to “dump” it in the ocean. Where else can they “dump” it? It HAS to be “dumped” somewhere. I have heard many arguments that nuclear power is safe. I think the world is finally finding out that it is NOT safe. Several nations have figured this out and have started the process of removing nuclear power. All nations need to follow suit. There are lots of “experts” that say “we have to have nuclear power, there is not enough power otherwise.” Well I think it is past time to figure out another way.

    • Rocky Racoon

      This is exactly why we are not getting any responsible reaction to this mess to many governments in cahoots with GE who pay no taxes and actually get refunds……

  • Thorfinnss

    It’s in water? Then why not evaporate the water through a filter to reduce it to a powder residue? Then encase this powder residue in glass. Is that so difficult? Better yet, sell it to the Iranians and let them process it.

  • slinker

    Because everything dumped into the sea just disappears forever. You know, what they are going to do is what made Godzilla…or Gojira. If Gojira comes and lays waste to Japan, well, I guess they had it coming to them. But seriously, this is why you can’t trust any corporation when it comes to the safety of the population. They don’t ever put a cap on “acceptable losses” except when it comes to money. Profit above people, after all.

  • Don Jusko

    What if the world demands the radioactive material be contained in their own island? They built the plant, they keep the contamination. Dumping the killing waste will start a world war.

  • Jarek Wiatr

    The world wide cooperation is the only solution to the drama of so far irresponsibility evolving homicide results. There is NO Excuse. If we – as loving parents care for life of present, so future generations have to make simple step towards Opening Eyes and Facing the Real Problems. Sue the predators with no excuse and have revealed so called sci-fi space science. For Our Sake – Weak Up and Not be Afraid to Save Your Life. Forget the shallow attractions, FOCUS on Your present and use your rights and force MPs to act for yours sake immediately!!! There is no time to narrow minded estimation game…warm hugs and spread good and learn…from the past (ancient achieved more than we can imagine…)

  • P Chanterelle

    In most cases dilution is a viable solution for low level radiation. In this case it depends what is kind of material you talking about. One thought put it in tankers ship it to bikini islands block off the lagoon mouth and pump in in. It will filter through the island back out to sea but will take many years. Most the heavier isotopes will be filtered out. Because the area is already uninhabitable and will be forever it will as least reduce the effected area. Ocean going ships if well maintained last about 80 years. Abandon? How knows. Maybe 20?

  • Fan B

    So, all you scientists, engineers and other “professional” “experts” who recommended nuclear energy as being safe and economical, THANKS ALOT FOR FUCKING UP OUR WORLD! I hope you all are the last to go assholes! You’ve got all future generations on your heads.

  • Kristie Thompson

    This is how we get mega godzilla ants!

  • Godblessourchildren

    Every dark cloud has a silver lining; let them dump it in Washington D.C.!

  • Aaron Wedgewood

    dump it. I think we’re all ready to die anyway.

  • Medicine Wheel

    This is a PowerPoint presentation that I made on ionizing radiation, to be used for education of others. Please embellish and update it: http://www.tuberose.com/Radiation.ppt
    This one is about the Fukushima FUBAR: http://www.tuberose.com/Cluster%20Fukushima.ppt

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