Americans Are Finally Learning About False Flag Terror

Painting by Anthony Freda

Governments Admit They Carry Out False Flag Terror

Governments from around the world admit they carry out false flag terror:

  • A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that – under orders from the chief of the Gestapo – he and some other Nazi operatives faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland. Nazi general Franz Halder also testified at the Nuremberg trials that Nazi leader Hermann Goering admitted to setting fire to the German parliament building, and then falsely blaming the communists for the arson
  • Soviet leader  Nikita Khrushchev admitted in writing that the Soviet Union’s Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila in 1939, and declared that the fire originated from Finland as a basis launching the Winter War four days later
  • Israel admits that an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this)
  • The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister
  • As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in the 1960′s, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See the following ABC news report; the official documents; and watch this interview with the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC’s World News Tonight with Peter Jennings.
  • 2 years before, American Senator George Smathers had suggested that the U.S. make “a false attack made on Guantanamo Bay which would give us the excuse of actually fomenting a fight which would then give us the excuse to go in and [overthrow Castro]“.
  • And Official State Department documents show that – only nine months before the Joint Chiefs of Staff plan was proposed – the head of the Joint Chiefs and other high-level officials discussed blowing up a consulate in the Dominican Republic in order to justify an invasion of that country. The 3 plans were not carried out, but they were all discussed as serious proposals
  • A U.S. Congressional committee admitted that – as part of its “Cointelpro” campaign – the FBI had used many provocateurs in the 1950s through 1970s to carry out violent acts and falsely blame them on political activists
  • The South African Truth and Reconciliation Council found that, in 1989, the Civil Cooperation Bureau (a covert branch of the South African Defense Force) approached an explosives expert and asked him “to participate in an operation aimed at discrediting the ANC [the African National Congress] by bombing the police vehicle of the investigating officer into the murder incident”, thus framing the ANC for the bombing
  • An Algerian diplomat and several officers in the Algerian army admit that, in the 1990s, the Algerian army frequently massacred Algerian civilians and then blamed Islamic militants for the killings (and see this video; and Agence France-Presse, 9/27/2002, French Court Dismisses Algerian Defamation Suit Against Author)
  • Senior Russian Senior military and intelligence officers admit that the KGB blew up Russian apartment buildings and falsely blamed it on Chechens, in order to justify an invasion of Chechnya (and see this report and this discussion)
  • According to the Washington Post, Indonesian police admit that the Indonesian military killed American teachers in Papua in 2002 and blamed the murders on a Papuan separatist group in order to get that group listed as a terrorist organization.
  • The well-respected former Indonesian president also admits that the government probably had a role in the Bali bombings
  • As reported by BBC, the New York Times, and Associated Press, Macedonian officials admit that the government murdered 7 innocent immigrants in cold blood and pretended that they were Al Qaeda soldiers attempting to assassinate Macedonian police, in order to join the “war on terror”.
  • Former Department of Justice lawyer John Yoo suggested in 2005 that the US should go on the offensive against al-Qaeda, having “our intelligence agencies create a false terrorist organization. It could have its own websites, recruitment centers, training camps, and fundraising operations. It could launch fake terrorist operations and claim credit for real terrorist strikes, helping to sow confusion within al-Qaeda’s ranks, causing operatives to doubt others’ identities and to question the validity of communications.”
  • United Press International reported in June 2005:

    U.S. intelligence officers are reporting that some of the insurgents in Iraq are using recent-model Beretta 92 pistols, but the pistols seem to have had their serial numbers erased. The numbers do not appear to have been physically removed; the pistols seem to have come off a production line without any serial numbers. Analysts suggest the lack of serial numbers indicates that the weapons were intended for intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government backing. Analysts speculate that these guns are probably from either Mossad or the CIA. Analysts speculate that agent provocateurs may be using the untraceable weapons even as U.S. authorities use insurgent attacks against civilians as evidence of the illegitimacy of the resistance.

  • Undercover Israeli soldiers admitted in 2005 to throwing stones at other Israeli soldiers so they could blame it on Palestinians, as an excuse to crack down on peaceful protests by the Palestinians
  • Quebec police admitted that, in 2007, thugs carrying rocks to a peaceful protest were actually undercover Quebec police officers (and see this)
  • At the G20 protests in London in 2009, a British member of parliament saw plain clothes police officers attempting to incite the crowd to violence
  • A Colombian army colonel has admitted that his unit murdered 57 civilians, then dressed them in uniforms and claimed they were rebels killed in combat
  • U.S. soldiers have admitted that if they kill innocent Iraqis and Afghanis, they then “drop” automatic weapons near their body so they can pretend they were militants
  • The highly-respected writer for the Telegraph Ambrose Evans-Pritchard says that the head of Saudi intelligence – Prince Bandar – recently admitted that  the Saudi government controls “Chechen” terrorists

So Common … There’s a Name for It

This tactic is so common that it was given a name for hundreds of years ago.

“False flag terrorism” is defined as a government attacking its own people, then blaming others in order to justify going to war against the people it blames. Or as Wikipedia defines it:

False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one’s own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy’s strategy of tension.

The term comes from the old days of wooden ships, when one ship would hang the flag of its enemy before attacking another ship in its own navy. Because the enemy’s flag, instead of the flag of the real country of the attacking ship, was hung, it was called a “false flag” attack.

Indeed, this concept is so well-accepted that rules of engagement for naval, air and land warfare all prohibit false flag attacks.

Leaders Throughout History Have Acknowledged False Flags

Leaders throughout history have acknowledged the danger of false flags:

“This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”
– Plato

“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
– U.S. President James Madison

“A history of false flag attacks used to manipulate the minds of the people! “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

“Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death”.
– Adolph Hitler

“Why of course the people don’t want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
– Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

“The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened”.
– Josef Stalin

People Are Waking Up to False Flags

People are slowly waking up to this whole con job by governments who want to justify war.

More people are talking about the phrase “false flag” than ever before.

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  • Andrew Park

    False flags are a real threat. Troubling but great post!

  • C101

    All part of the Anglo-American cartel Hegelian agenda for mankind.

    Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis, you all better learn the rules of the game if you want to defeat the brain dead Globalist psychopath who are in charge of our crumbling economic and social state of affairs. Failing to do so will prove to be detrimental to our Sovereign rights and God given freedom.

    Hegelian Dialectics / Thesis – Antithesis – Synthesis

    Don’t Shoot the Messengers.

    • berger friedrich-wolfgang

      Selling K. Marx’s “dialectical Materialism” – a wretched & crippled Understanding of “HEGEL’s DIALECTIC of the LOGOS”, as “Hegelian Dialectic” seems to be a new Form of “FALSE FLAG OP.”!

      • C101

        Marx’s crisis management credo all be it a wretched & crippled Understanding of HEGEL’s DIALECTIC was mainly brought forth by Fredrich Engels, a strong financial supporter and friend of Marx, socio-political and economic views. the Anglo-American cartel have been playing this game of cat and mouse since it’s inception.

        • berger friedrich-wolfgang

          Today , when “Everything” is tested & tried by the “COURT of REASON” for “it’s Identity with itself”, or for the “TRUTH”, the “gloomy – toxic – Fog” of “covering Intellectual – CREDO”, has to proof it’s “asserted universal VALUE”!

          • C101

            Interesting ! Universal values are the reason why mankind faces such predicament.

          • berger friedrich-wolfgang

            You think HUMANITY TRUTH & JUSTICE are responsibel ?

          • C101

            Our lack there of is responsible. Crimes again Humanity go unpunished even supported by international bodies. Truth is distorted fabricated or repressed by the media outlets. Justice? You get 20 years for selling dope on the corner street, a slap on the wrist for embezzling billions.

            If we the people add any sense of cosmic Truth and Justice, shared, upheld human values and sovereign rights we wouldn’t be in this mess. Instead we follow like cattle blind men who seek self serving values and obey Baal’s ambition for mankind .

          • berger friedrich-wolfgang

            It requires the “Courage of a Hero” , to “purify our Self” from all of those “steadily recurring unnecessary requests and desires” , to “cultivate the Virtues” of “Truth , Humanity and Justice”!

          • C101

            Then we are heros among the cattle. Men and Women of cosmic virtues who stand with honour and a sense of purpose. To do our creative fathers work in the face of evil. We are the soldiers of faith in the wars of Good Vs Evil.

            May our Father, first source and centre of all creation bless the heros who fear not the evil of men.

          • berger friedrich-wolfgang

            “Remain , what You already are ! – Become , what You still do not be”!

          • esquire2

            … Heavy … but a little too dramatic.

            Simplify to “Sacred Contract”.

        • berger friedrich-wolfgang

          For a correct Understanding of Dialectic, the Knowledge of the Difference between Plato’s & Aristotle’s Interpretation of the divine Word of LOGOS, – the “IDEA”, is the necessary Condition ! In Plato’s Idea, the Change into its Counterpart or Non-Being is a “natural Move”.! Aristoteles, according to the “Logos or SELF”, tought, to affirm the Positive by Negating its negative Counterpart ! His famous Philosophem : “The Idea is the Unity of Positive & Negative” still is a unbreakable Barrier for Nature-scientific Intellectualists !!!

      • C101

        I quote.: Mark this well, you proud men of action! you are, after all, nothing but unconscious instruments of the men of thought.
        Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

        All great movements are popular movements. They are the volcanic eruptions of human passions and emotions, stirred into activity by the ruthless Goddess of Distress or by the torch of the spoken word cast into the midst of the people.
        Adolf Hitler

        You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.
        Rahm Emanuel

        • berger friedrich-wolfgang

          “The IDEA is the Unity of the Contradiction”! – (HEGEL) . Without the “acting Subject , the SELF”, which puts this Setting right [“The Good is the Not – Evil”!] , “materialistic / intellectual Ignorants” translated : “In the Idea Good & Evil are the SAME”! – and “They still believe in Their Crap” and “act according to him”!

  • C101

    Lol, the U.S. ain’t no stranger when it comes to False flags opps. White House USAID and Friends have masterfully executed social black opps for decades and they’re not about to stop these Baalite based sociaux-economic credos.

    Wendigo – USAID Foreign-Led Conspiracy To Destabilize Governments


  • Carl_Herman

    Great explanation and documentation, GW; thank you 🙂

  • Tom Joad

    “A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that bla bla bla”

    The victorious Allies tortured the defeated Germans into “admitting” anything they could dream up for them to admit to, including their own crimes, like the mass murder of the Polish elite in Katyn Forest.

    • Horowitz

      “Polish elite” is an oxymoron.

      • Tom Joad

        Yeah, *Horowitz*, maybe now it is since your tribe exterminated them – and please note that in REAL Holocausts, like those committed by the Jews, the dead people do not come back to life to collect *reparations*.

        • bariola

          EVERY race and religion commits evil. It is neo-Nazi cretins/Feds like yourself that are insuring that the Patriot Movement NEVER becomes a mass movement. NEVER. You are your kind have infected the Patriot/anti-NWO movement. The fact that you got so many thumbs up means one of two things: either most Patriots are, in-fact, neo-Nazi slime ball retards, or the tally has been tampered with.

    • bariola

      I knew someone personally who was in a death camp, so go blow it out your nose you freaking Nazi piece of crap. Of course, you could be a Fed like your buddy Hal Turner.

  • mataj

    What do you think about people who are planting bombs, killing innocent passerbys at random? Pretty loathsome lot, aren’t they? Do you think they can be trusted? Absolutely not! One shouldn’t believe a word they say. Yet, our governments insist, that we should trust them blindly about the most important issue: The cause they are fighting for.

    There is no such thing as genuine, honest terrorism. ALL terrorist attacks are false flag. No exceptions.

    • Tonto

      False flags are not all the government is doing. The government has infiltrated the alternative media so thoroughly, even those who honestly believe their views are independent are being skillfully used by government to shape opinions and to get people leaning the wrong way.

      The U.S. government is not just behind Edward Snowden and Julian Assange. The government is also the creator of the Bitcoin, and it has been levitating the price of gold since long before all the gold bugs started saying the government is manipulating the price of gold lower.

      You see, these people who work for the CIA are not just very smart. They also believe in what they are doing. Their morality is a higher-order morality, that tells them, they have to do what they are doing, even as ruthless as it is, otherwise some much more evil group would supplant them.

      They are doing God’s work, and whether or not you agree with them, you are doing your part by being the clueless dupes you all certainly are. It’s not about any given enemy. It’s about controlling the whole game-board, completely, 24/7/365, so that no potential enemy can gain even the slightest of footholds.

      And the truth is, no potential enemy is anywhere near gaining a foothold. They are only capable of begging to be the ally of the CIA, like the Russians who are so tight with the U.S., it’s comical to read how Putin is beating his Russian bear chest. It’s only done at the urging of the CIA, and only to in order to get others leaning the wrong way.

      The U.S. has never been stronger at any time in its history. Scores of trillions of dollar have flooded world markets during this make-believe worldwide depression, and our economy survives. This is the sign of economic strength, not weakness. Even the Iranians have had a change of heart and tone. Why? Because the Americans are the most valued friends on the sovereign landscape of the planet. And Iran just cut a sweet and valued deal that allows them to chum-up with the U.S. and prosper. Good for them. They deserve it.

      No one is making plans to invade the U.S. That would be suicidal. If you don’t believe it, ask someone you know who has recently served in the U.S. military. Drone warfare is already obsolete. The U.S. military doesn’t release knowledge about weapon systems for public view unless those weapon systems are obsolete. Right now there are miniaturized nuclear weapons (neutron bombs) in orbit capable of hitting anywhere on the planet, and, that make drone warfare a laughable head fake.

      False flags? Letting the false flag idea go mainstream, is just indicative of the extent to which completely controlling the game-board is seen as the new battleground of the Twenty-First Century. You can trust the Americans to control the worldwide game-board for another hundred years, hands down, no contest. Anyone not staying home, and instead is thinking about going long on the U.S., is going to get their pants handed back to them, and their ass is not going to be in them any more.

      • CoweringCoward

        Lay off the firewater keemosabi.

      • So how does Israel figure into this world view of yours above?

        • Tonto

          Israel is smaller than the State of New Jersey, has a population much less, and, neighbors that will menace it forever and a day, because Israel is not a legitimate state, has no defined borders, and is but a creation of the West.

          If you mean, does Israel have a right to exist? Sure, if it can manage to get along with its neighbors better than it has thus far. Everyone should note about Israel, more Israelis emigrate to the U.S. every year, now, than the other way around.

          I don’t see how Israel even figures in the equation of this article. False flags? Israel was merely a willing CIA asset on 9-11, not even a co-conspirator. 9-11 was the NEOCON inspired new Pearl Harbor event well documented prior to the event.

          • You don’t see how Israel figures in the equation of false flags? Hmmm……..

          • Boni Biggun

            Exactly, you can spot these government trolls a mile away!

          • Tonto drops out of sight when it comes to the “dancing israelis” on 911 & the 911 israeli art student spy ring on 911.

          • bariola

            Yes, Israel was involved, or rather, the Israeli government and Mossad, who, like the CIA, MI6, etc., are in servitude to the old money powers, i.e, the royal families of Britain and Europe (who gave the Rothschilds their start). Israel is another NWO base of operations in the Middle East as is Saudi Arabia.
            Of course, you are insinuating that it’s them thar Jews that are the sole perpetrators of all evil in the world. It is your kind that is helping to relegate the Patriot/9/11 Truth movement to a fringe neo-Nazi movement that will NEVER gain mass appeal.

            The NWO is not Zionist, it is Luciferian. Zionism, by definition, is ostensibly based upon the promise of Yahweh in the Old Testament that the land of Palestine forever belongs to the Hebrews (which is a bunch of religious malarkey IMO). In reality, it was a brilliant scheme by the Queen’s lackeys, the Rothschilds, to gain further inroads into the Middle East for oil and opium.

          • Paladin13

            Israel is not a legitimate state? The borders of all Middle Eastern countries were set by the West after the Allies defeated the Ottoman Empire. So Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon are not legitimate states?

          • Boni Biggun

            He’s a government shill.

          • bariola

            The Palestinians had been living there for 2000 years and, by decree of the British royal family of leeches via Balfour, and by consent of the other governments who are a part of the Western global mafia, radical Jews who are as bad as the Nazis began displacing them from their homeland, happily hacking and slaying innocent civilians.

          • Paladin13

            Did you make that up on your own or did someone supply you with the idea that “Palestinians” lived there? There were no such people as the Palestinians until 1967 when Yassar Arafat said they were Palestinians, instead of Syrians, Jordanians, etc. Jews as bad as the Nazis, huh? Have the Israelis granted voting rights to Arabs living within Israel? Or did they set up concentration camps? You can wait to answer until your neo-Nazi friends supply you with more crap to throw.

          • bariola

            How the hell would you feel if some foreigners came to your home town, kicked you out of your home at gunpoint or just started shooting at you because you are the wrong ethnicity? That is exactly what happened to the Palestinians. What the hell difference does it make WHAT you call them, these people have been displaced or butchered.

            You’re not actually saying that modern day Jews have a right to the land of Palestine based upon the Balfour Declaration?

          • Paladin13

            Yes I am. The borders were set by the victors in WWI. And many of those so-called Palestinians left in 1947-1948 when the Arab nations advised them to. Palestinians living in Israel have more rights that they and Arabs do elsewhere.

            By the way, God gave the land to the Jews. Who are you to argue with God?

          • bariola

            God gave the land of Palestine to the Jews? Really? Were you there when god did this? Is it right for anyone, god or human, to usurp land from its inhabitants? If god told you to kill your child as god allegedly told Abraham re: Isaac, would you obey him? Sorry, I don’t heed the writings of Iron Age men who considered women to be property, nor would I listen to any voice in my head that told me to do something that I considered to be immoral.

          • Paladin13

            Sure God gave the land to the Jews – it’s in the Bible. Interesting how you make comments about Iron Age men who considered women their property – like the modern Palestinians and Muslims whom you champion.

          • bariola

            I don’t champion anyone. When did I ever say that I approve of or believe in Sharia law? I simply stated that the Jews in modern-day Israel treat Palestinians like Hitler treated the Jews in Nazi Germany.

            As for your Bible, sorry, I don’t believe in a book or a god that commands a woman to marry her rapist (Deuteronomy 22: 28-29) or commands the Israelites to kill all of the men, women and children of Midian except for the virgins, which they were allowed to keep as booty (Numbers 31: 17-18).

          • Paladin13

            You first statement is a lie and ridiculous. The Israelis do not herd Palestinians into concentration camps and exterminate them. Shame on you for this comparison.

            That part of Deuteronomy helps protect the woman who is violated and has lost her virginity. The man is required to marry her and he can never divorce her. So he’s stuck with her. And God gave the Hebrews certain commands to exterminate peoples. Isn’t that ugly? Atheists and communists did it to tens of millions in this century in the name of utopianism. By the way, the little girls and virgins were spared. The males were wiped out. Sounds as if God was discriminating against men, but for what reason.

          • bariola

            A lie? No, you are ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. What would you call being herded into smaller and smaller living areas, in defiance of agreements and all that is holy? And when the Palestinians protest because their allotted space is continually decreased and are then attacked by the Israeli army, that’s okay in your book?

            As for your book of atrocities, you equate forcing a woman to marry her rapist with punishing the man? You are a barbarian. The little girls in question were made sex slaves of the Israelite soldiers. They were spared so that they could be molested every day. You are such a slime ball that you actually can try to defend this insanity? Yes, I do believe that if god told you to kill your first born son, you would gladly do it. That is because you do not have a mind of your own and are without morality.

            If you had a daughter and someone raped her, you would actually think that she should marry him? You are beyond nuts.

          • Paladin13

            You lied when you compared the Israelis to the Nazis. And you showed again your true colors and thinking. There is no comparison. The Palestinians living outside Israel are living there because the Arabs told their parents and grandparents to leave before they attacked Israel. Israel is only a small sliver of land. Why don’t those Muslim countries absorb the Palestinians instead of herding them into those camps? If the Muslim countries consisting of hundreds of millions with much more land than Israel won’t accept the Palestinians, why should the Israelis?

            You’re becoming unhinged. I’ve debated your type before. You believe that Christians don’t have a mind of their own and are immoral. And any man that would rape my child – including Roman Polanski – better get to prison before I’d find him.

            Now have I called you nuts or crazy just because you spout crazy, nutty ideas and diatribes?

            My suggestion to you is to repent of your sins and call upon the Lord Jesus to save you, Why don’t you read Revelation 3:20?

          • bariola

            Accept or absorb the Palestinians? They were there FIRST!!!!!! They were bothering no one other than occasional tribal squabbles amongst themselves.
            My type? I’m not the one who said that it’s moral for a woman to be forced to marry her rapist, am I?

            Yes, I’ve debated your type before. So the human part comes out every once in awhile when pushed; yes, if someone raped my daughter I’d be out for blood. THAT is a normal reaction.

            I don’t feel the need to ask god forgiveness. It’s not that I don’t feel bad when I hurt someone inadvertently, or have a thought that is negative. It’s just that, beyond there being no proof for a benevolent god that I can see, if there IS a god, that god is a piece of shit. It let’s the innocent be raped and pillaged every day. If I had unlimited power, I would not put beloved children in a food chain.

            If I hurt someone or do someone a wrong, I need to make it right with the person who I wronged, not some shmuck in the sky who allows pedophiles to hurt children without restraint. I

          • Paladin13

            No, many of the Palestinians were not there and many who may have been have died. So those who claim to be Palestinians never lived in Israel. You will someday regret calling God what you called him. You are very angry – being angry at God is easy to do in this life. Not so much in the next one.

            So you believe that Stalin and Hitler and Mao and Che and Pol Pot got away with their crimes? Wonderful.

          • bariola

            Yeah, I believe they got away with their crimes. If I was god, they wouldn’t have committed those crimes in the first place. I wouldn’t have let them hurt one person. I know, god doesn’t like to mess with people’s free will. Well, what about the free will of all of the people who were butchered by genocidal madmen like Hitler and Stalin? Does god value the free will of murderers more than the free will of relatively decent human beings?

          • Paladin13

            Bariola, they did not get away with their crimes. They are in the hands of an angry and just God. If God took away our free will, we’d be automatons or robots with no capacity to chose. God will balance things out in the end. Otherwise, nothing really matters, because we’re just star dust with no destiny and we’re here by accident.

          • bariola
          • Paladin13

            I love the way the articles downplay how hundreds of thousands of Jews were forced out of the Arab countries. The Arabs encircled and attacked Israel in 1948. Imagine if Poland and Finland actually drove back the Soviets and then took some of their land in self defense. Would they be right to keep it? You bet they would. The Arabs attacked and lost. They lost territory. The presence of Israel is a Catastrophe to Muslims because they lost and the presence of the Jews is a reminder to them that there Koran and Hadiths may not be inspired by their god – Allah – the moon god. If Israel allowed 5 million non-Jews to enter Israel, Israel would cease to exist and the Jews would be persecuted, murdered and forced to flee. Well as Helen Thomas said, they could always return to Germany and Poland.

          • bariola

            WHERE YOU THERE? If you weren’t there, then how would you know? I know, because it says so in your bible. How do we know that the bible is really god’s word and is telling the truth? Simple, it says so right in the bible. That’s about right, aye?

            I think you need to look up the term, “circular logic.”

          • Paladin13

            where you there 2,000 years ago when Jesus was resurrected? 4,000 years ago? Where you there in 1947 and 1948 when Israel miraculously survived the Arabs war upon them? The Bible’s history is reliable.

          • bariola

            Oh, so you saw the resurrection of Christ.

          • Paladin13

            No witnesses at that time did. Did you see the Israelis usurp the land from the Palestinians as you charge? Do you believe that Julius Caesar existed? If you do, how can you – you weren’t there.

          • bariola

            There is 7 or 8 decades of historical evidence (in the modern age of mass communication) that the Palestinians have been oppressed by Israel. There is also much historical evidence that the Caesars existed.

            As for the resurrection of Christ, well, we can’t even get the gospel stories to agree with themselves, can we?

          • Paladin13

            There’s a lot of propaganda about the Palestinians, who are mistreated by their own people.

            There is evidence that Christ existed. And what exactly is there about the gospel stories that make you doubt the Resurrection. Remember, the first witnesses to see Christ arisen were women. Women were considered by the Jews as unreliable witnesses. If you were going to invent the Resurrection, why not have men being the first witnesses?

            The gospels report what the authors were told by witnesses or those who spoke with witnesses. That adds to their credibility. No 2 witnesses will report exactly the same facts.

          • bariola

            Truly, I don’t care what anyone believes. I believe in the Bill of Rights which states that the freedom to worship as one chooses is the right of every person. What pisses me off and frightens me is when religious people defend all manner of atrocities simply because they are written in your holy book of choice.

          • Paladin13

            I believe that our rights come from God the Creator as stated in the Declaration of Independence. And we have more than freedom to worship – we have freedom of religion which the current elites in this country are trying to destroy along with free speech, privacy and due process. And I have encountered a lot of bigotry by the atheists who believe I and others are irrational and stupid because we believe in God. I once was an agnostic. Now I know better.

          • bariola

            I really try to spare you religious nimrods and have mercy on you. I usually try to bite my tongue when offended by your idiocies. However, when you use your putrid, barbaric religion as an excuse for bloodshed, well, then I get a little pissed off.

          • Paladin13

            Thanks for going light on people like me. At least the Bible is a historical document. The crap you’ve spouted about the Palestinians is just that – crap. Those people did not call themselves Palestinians until 1967. Yasser Arafat was a clever liar, wasn’t he? Now you believe that Palestinians are a people going back 2,000 years!

          • bariola

            Historical document? Yes, talking serpents and Noah’s ark (how did he get every living species in there?), Jonah’s whale ride – yes, quite the historical document.

          • Paladin13

            All much more possible than believing that life arose from lifelessness and that the universe arose from an explosion and so precisely tuned itself that life could exist. I guess you believe that an exploding hand grenade actually creates order? That the Law of Biogenesis is trumped by the Theory of Evolution? When does a Theory trump a Law?

          • bariola

            I don’t pretend to know exactly how we got here because I wasn’t there when things began. Neither were you and neither were the writers of the bible, who apparently couldn’t even figure out that the Earth was round and the exact value of PI.

          • Paladin13

            They knew the earth was round. They knew there was a beginning to the universe which modern science has finally proven. They knew about hygiene techniques. They knew about vents in the sea. And they predicted historical events.

          • bariola

            I don’t care if they called themselves Martians, they were living there for millennia, just living and minding their own business and out of nowhere they are ousted from their homes, attacked and butchered by the murderous Israeli government.

          • Paladin13

            Minding their own business? How do you know – where you there? The Islamic world never has minded its own business. The Muslims have been fighting Muslims and usurping each others land since the time of Mohammed, who married a 7 year old girl Aisha and then consummated the marriage when she was 9. And if you knew real history, you’d know that the area around Jerusalem was desolate just over a hundred years ago. The Jews migrating into that area brought it back and helped attract the so-called Palestinians who wanted work. The Israelis are there to stay. Get used to it, despite your prejudice and hatred.

          • bariola

            PEOPLE have been fighting people forever – it doesn’t make it right when Muslims do it or when Jews or Christians do it.
            As for pedophiles, I think we both know that Muslims are not the sole perpetrators of this crime. Ancient peoples did marry at younger ages. As for Mohammed, I couldn’t say as I never met the guy.

            As for Jerusalem, it was ruled by the Turks until the 19th century.

            Prejudiced? I’m Jewish. I simply call a spade a spade.

          • Paladin13

            You’re Jewish? I’m part Jewish. But I believe in that which gave rise to the Jewish people – the Old Testament – and in He who has preserved the Jewish identity and religion despite the past 2 thousand years (a miracle). You might be Jewish by background but I am more a Jew than you are. I’ve heard the expression “Hebrew Christian” used for a Jew who is a Christian. So may I call you a Hebrew Atheist?

            You say all these things about the ancient peoples and never met them but you bail when asked about Mohammed. Which is it? Mohammed forced himself on a 9 year old girl. Mohammed forced his son to divorce his wife so Mohammed could marry her. He killed and murdered and stole. And that’s history. But hey, you weren’t there and never knew the guy. But you opine about other matters and peoples without being there.

            You believe in no God because you haven’t met Him. Do you believe Mohammed really existed?

          • bariola

            I can also guess that, if the Chinese invaded America (for argument sake) you would think that the Chinese were acting immorally and you would fight to protect your homeland. What’s the difference between you fighting to protect your home and the local Arab residents fighting to protect their homes?
            BTW, do you think it’s right that Israel is the only nation that has not signed the non-proliferation agreement re: nukes?

          • Paladin13

            Yes I would fight the Chinese, unlike the current administration. But the problem is, the Jews did not invade Palestine. They were already there. And I think it’s great that the Israelis have nukes and don’t admit it. It keeps the Arabs and Iranians from attacking them. Otherwise the Samson option, which almost came to fruition in 1973.

          • Paladin13

            “Is it right for anyone … to usurp land from its inhabitants?” you asked. What exactly did the Romans do to the Jews in 70 AD? Please keep raising arguments. Your contradictions and hypocrisies are showing. By the way, the West Bank belongs to the Israelis who kicked the crap out of its enemies in 1967 who were trying to destroy Israel and exterminate its people. Israel gave Gaza to the Palestinians – how’s that working out?

          • bariola

            When did I say it was okay to usurp land? Did I say it was okay if Romans did it to the Jews? No, I didn’t, so please keep your puerile straw man arguments to yourself, i.e., STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH YOU PUTZ.

            Let’s see, according to your Born Again illogic, it’s okay for the Jews in Israel to abuse and butcher people who had done NOTHING to them but it’s not okay for the Palestinians to fight back against this invasion, simply because you believe in a book in which donkey’s talk, virgins give birth, pre-antediluvian people had lifespans of several centuries and people rise from the dead. But I’m the one who contradicts myself and is hypocritical?

          • Paladin13

            What do you believe – that your ancestors were rocks? That life arose from lifelessness? It takes more faith to believe in that ridiculous fairy tale of life self-organizing itself via evolution than in the Bible and that God created everything, even you. And that makes you and me accountable to Him? Don’t like that – tough.

            Pre-Flood animals and humans lived much longer because they lived in a much different environment. Please explain how 12 inch centipedes existed? And I’ll believe in a virgin birth – you can go ahead and believe that the Law of Biogenesis does not apply to evolutionary science and that life somehow sprang into existence on its own.

            By the way, the Romans did usurp the land from the Jews and forced most of them into exile, where they were mistreated and murdered for 2000 years. And you make an immoral comparison between the Jews and Nazis. Now the Jews have a homeland that theirs and it sticks in the crawl of the Muslims, atheists, communists and leftists. Considering your hatred of Israel and the growing anti-semitism of the world, the Jews are probably safer in Israel than in America, considering our anti-Israel Dear Leader.

          • bariola

            I already said that usurping someone’s land is wrong, regardless who they are. Stop beating a dead horse.
            As for pre-flood humans and animals, PROVE IT. You see, scientists have those things called FOSSILS. Not absurd childish myths about making woman out of the rib of man, but things you can actually hold in your hand, chemically analyze, etc.
            The bottom line is, like many of your abhorrent lackeys, you would commit the most heinous crimes imaginable as long as your god told you to do it. That is because you are a weak minded asshole with no mind of your own. Guess what Sherlock, I don’t need a stinking book that commands that women marry their rapists to be my moral compass. You see, I simply know that forcing a woman to marry her rapist is beyond barbaric and insane. You apparently think it’s fine. As I said, if you have a daughter (or mother or sister) who, hopefully not, ever gets raped, you can then tell them that it is god’s command that they marry their rapist.

          • Paladin13

            There are Flood legends in all cultures. And fossils – do you know dinosaur fossils with still existing tissues have been found? Is that possible after tens of millions of years? I guess you believe the universe is 14 billion years old. Where you there 14 billion years ago?

            What do you find in the fossil records, in addition to proof that evolution is not true? You find billions of creatures suddenly buried by soil and water. Now what would a cataclysmic flood such as described in the Bible do? Bury billions of creatures suddenly in soil and water. Petrified trees? I’ve seen idiots argue that the trees lasted for hundreds of years in swamps. Many petrified trees are found with there roots up. Did you know that? When do trees have there roots facing upward? When they’ve been in flood waters for a while. Spirit Lake. Look it up.

            I would never force a woman to marry her rapist. If she could not get justice, I would encourage her to expose such a man even if he were the President of the United States or had been a governor at the time of the assault. By the way, who did you vote for in 1992 and 1996?

          • bariola

            Ah, no, we haven’t found billions of creatures suddenly buried. The geologic column proves otherwise.

            So forcing a woman to marry her rapist is abhorrent to you, unless god tells you to do it? That’s what it sounds like you’re saying.

            Who did I vote for? I don’t vote because both parties are the same – they are both corrupt to the core. I occasionally vote in local elections but as far as the office of president, we haven’t had a real president since JFK.

          • Paladin13

            No, the fossils show that they were suddenly buried. Otherwise, their dead bodies would have been devoured by other animals or destroyed by natural forces.

            I don’t know what the law was in the Middle East 3500 years ago. Rape may not have been punishable by the law. So rules were created to force the man to be responsible for the woman whose virginity he took outside of marriage and therefore hurt her chances of getting married. I hope you don’t believe that women were free to marry whomever they wanted in those days?

            I like some of JFK’s policies. He was a flawed man. My father and sister actually met him when he ran for President in 1960. And we did have a real President since JFK – Reagan. The remainder of them – Johnson, Nixon, Carter, both Bushes and Clinton – were either dolts, corrupt, believed in the NWO (do you remember when the first Bush announced a NWO?), or were incompetent. I just hope were not stuck with Hillary or Jeb Bush after 2016.

            And I agree with you about the corruption of both parties – or should I say the 2 wings of the same party?

          • Joe

            Now your talking things that I absolutely agree with , Reagan was a great man with good intentions , thats why their was an intent on his life twice , one failed whole-heartedly and the other time he was shot , but survived , thank god . Who in the world do all you people believe Barry Soetoro works for ? He cant tie his shoes without permission . He belongs to the Clintons mostly , and to a lesser extent Bush . They both give him orders on what to do , say ,and what decisions to make . JFK I Beleive had good intentions , but he was not very smart and made some horrible decisions , he turned his back on the Cuban people , as a result Fidel Castro and his brother along with their Government , have murdered and displaced millions of families not only in Cuba , but throughout all of Central and South America . Confirmed Brutal Dictator , Confirmed sympathizer of Terrorism against the United States , Confirmed Drug dealer and safe haven for some of the worst international criminals in the world, was a personal friend of PABLO ESCOBAR , THEIR IS A PICTURE OF ESCOBAR MEETING CASTRO AT AN ENCLOSED AIRPLANE HANGAR IN HAVANA YEARS AGO . Confirmed to have a hand in Money laundering , and ordering the execution of many Political prisoners and more than enough evidence that he murdered his own cousin in Bogota , right before staging a ” Coup de etad ‘ in Cuba and proclaiming himself the sole leader of that nation .

          • Meyer

            The only thing you said that was right was that our Muslin Leader , is anti – Israel . But then again , YOU VOTED FOR HIM , YOU PUT BARRY SOETORO in the white house ! Also the ASHKENAZI INVENTED AND SUPPORT COMMUNISM !
            SO long as they are on top , and everyone else (the goyim) is enslaved by them. Tens of Millions of people have suffered and died and have had their families lives destroyed by the most disgusting and vile form of government ever created (Communism) by 2 ASHKENAZIS ! Their is good and bad in all religions and denominations , and races , but dont come off with your ” Jews only do good in the world attitude ” , they along with other peoples , have committed and continue to commit some of the most hideous crimes against humanity . It is truly disturbing what some people , wether they be individuals acting alone , groups of people , or whole races of people will do to attain money , power , and influence over the rest of society .

          • bariola

            BTW, you never answered my questions: Were you there when god did this? Is it right for anyone, god or human, to usurp land from its inhabitants? If god told you to kill your child as god allegedly told Abraham re: Isaac, would you obey him?

          • Paladin13

            If God told me to do that, I don’t know if I could. That’s not a reflection on God but on me. But you see, God was testing Abraham and setting an example for the sacrifice of His own Son, Jesus. And the Jews did not practice human sacrifice, unlike the Midianites and others. God can “usurp” the land from anyone – he’s God. People have been usurping land from others for thousands of years. But you only set your sights on Israel and Jews. Most of the people living in the Middle East either usurped the land from others or their ancestors did. So why do you only attack the Jews and Israel?

          • bariola

            When did I attack the Jews and Israel as being the sole perpetrators of Israel? Okay, for the THIRD time, usurping ANYONE’S LAND IS WRONG, CAPICE?????? WTF. Apparently, you think bloodshed is fine so long as your god commands it. I don’t. If someone is trying to take over my homeland, I will fight to the death. If someone is doing me no harm, I have no moral reason to fight them. Hey wait a minute………………………

            You’re not sure if you could kill your own son if god told you to do that? Wow. That actually means that maybe I was wrong, maybe you do have a mind of your own, a conscience of your own, a moral compass of your own? Maybe a smidgen. Guess what? I don’t care who told me, I don’t care what voice I heard in my head – I would NEVER kill my own child. I can’t even believe I have to make such a statement.

          • Paladin13

            You create the false narrative that the Palestinians – who did not exist in that name before 1967 – were innocent and the Israelis were the butchers and bad guys. So you and I will never agree. But what is your solution? How’s that Gaza experiment working out, huh?

            You would never kill you own child? How about he was trying to kill you or a loved one or a neighbor? It’s happens. Of course, it would be the fault of the Israeli government if that happens.

            What you fail to understand is that you and I and everyone in this world are fall sinners who need a Redeemer. I know His name and have called upon him to save me. What do you believe – that your sins go away like vapor?

          • bariola

            Again, what does it matter what their name is? These people were living there for centuries, Jews and Muslims together, and the Zionists come in start holy hell. Sorry, that’s wrong.

            I’ve watched video clips of Israeli teachers teaching Israeli school children that all Muslims are monsters (and I’ve seen the reverse as well). I’ve seen news footage of Israeli soldiers firing upon Palestinians who are told they must move from their homes to make way for evermore Jewish settlers (more like pirates) and fighting back with sticks and stones. I’m not saying that everyone in Israel is a demon, but the Israel government is as barbaric as any.

          • Paladin13

            So it’s not the Jews but those darn Zionists! Has it ever occurred to you that those Zionists were sick and tired of the persecution, murder, pogroms, etc. used against Jewish people in Europe and the Middle East?

            I am not aware of Israelis sneaking into a Palestiniian home, murdering the parents and the beheading an infant and killing their 2 sons with knives. And I don’t remember Israelis dancing in the streets when 9/11 happened.

          • Max

            God is not a HE…Get over it…

          • Paladin13

            God the Father answers it all. And it took you 6 months to formulate an (incorrect) response.

          • Joe

            Yeah , they kicked the crap out of them with the aid , weapons , and intelligence from the US OF A ! THESE ASHKENAZIS whole purpose is to play the persecution myth and the victim game ,then set opposing sides against each other. This is how they control the media , Hollywood , the school and education department , and the governments , and ultimately the Idiotic American masses of people . Their whole thing is to create the idea of conspiracy paranoia , and False flag operations . They are the biggest deceivers and liars . Why do you think they are blaspheming Puting ? Because he is trying to bring Russia back to the old days of Christianity , and some form of decency . So the Ashkenazi through the media and other avenues are painting him as a Rapist , Invader of other nations , and as a returning communist . Which is a total lie , let me tell you Vladimir Putting is the last hope for humanity before we fall into the hands of the Ashkenazi . He is exposing them in Russia , and that`s why their mad . One of the greatest books you will ever read is ” The Creature from Jekyll Island ” , everything that is really happening is in their , written by a great and intelligent author . By the way, it is now believed by credible sources , I`ll say it again , credible sources , that Isis is an ISRAELI FRONT !

          • Paladin13

            Hey we agree about the book The Creature from Jekyll Island. And Putin may want the old Russia back – with pogroms and murder of his political opponents. But being part Ashkenazi and Irish and German, I can see your point.

          • bariola

            Please cease your nauseating neo-Nazi rhetoric. People like you do more to sabotage the Patriot Movement than the mainstream media (who always tell the sheeple that truthers and patriots are neo-Nazi domestic terrorists).
            Yes, the Israeli government is corrupt like almost every other government that has ever existed. Evil is not solely relegated to Jews, but if all you focus on is Jews, that is all you will see. By definition, that is bigotry.

            What all of you neo-Nazis never mention is that the royal families of Britain and Europe gave the Rothschilds their start. Mayer Amschel and sons would’ve remained in a Jewish ghetto were it not for the patronage of William l, Elector of Hesse, who gave the family business a boost, to put it mildly. Yes, the Rothschilds are no doubt one of the most powerful families on the planet, but they are not the only wealthy New World Order family, not by a long shot. A reasonable assessment of just who is in control of the planet can be deduced by viewing a few Bilderberg meeting guest lists. They are not all Rothschilds and they are not all Jews.

            As for Putin (Putting – lmao), he is the former head of the KGB. Yes, I’m sure he is just a darling guy. The fact is, they are ALL Mafiosi, like the Gambino, Bonanno and Lucchese crime families (no, I don’t hate all Italians). Learn how to speak the king’s English and stop sabotaging the cause of freedom with your hate-ridden, simplistic, puerile mindset.

          • LysanderSpooner

            Even the indigenous Jewish people were originally called Palestinians. Palestine is the name given to the region by the Roman Empire (i.e. Europeans). That is why Palestinians cannot even pronounce the name fostered upon them. They pronounce it as Balestinians. There are not any Palestinian kings, coins, pottery styles, unique architecture, etc. Things that would normally indicate a previously existing indigenous kingdom or empire. That is because the region was so valuable as a trade route that other world empires have almost always occupied it. So just because a people never formed into a kingdom (except for the Hebrews and a few other kingdoms for very brief times); and instead made the wise choice to live free as nomadic tribal family units; shouldn’t mean they are open game to be victimized and told they have no rights to their ancestral land.
            The reality is history, and even the Bible, shows of constant inter-marriage in the region. The truth is that many of what are called Palestinians have more Hebrew blood in their veins than the Asian Ashkenazi Khasars ( so-called Jews) that now lay claim to the land. Click on the photo of this blog if you want to read more about who the Khasars (Khazars) are.

            And to Palidin; Who gives a rats behind about any Balfour Declaration. Balfour was at the time in the second layer of the illuminati circle formed by Cecil Rhodes. Unless you submit to decrees of the NWO or tyrannical governments. And I am redundant when I use the word tyrannical and government in the same sentence.

          • bariola

            I am aware of the Khazars, although I’ve also skimmed over a couple of genetic studies which indicate that many so-called Ashkenazi do, in fact, have Semitic gene markers, which is hardly surprising. I’ve read that Jews and Arabs lived peacefully in the region for a long time before the British Crown and its lackeys usurped the area. Also, as you say, there was inter-marriage between the region’s inhabitants down through the millennia. As well, Jews emigrated from the Middle East before and after the Khazar conversion (the extent and nature of which is apparently not agreed upon by historians). So, I don’t believe the Khazar/Sephardic dichotomy is as black and white as some claim.

            I believe that evil is an equal opportunity employer. At the same time I am not blind. European Jews have indeed played a major role in American politics as they have in Britain. As they were oppressed and persecuted throughout the Middle Ages, primarily for being labeled Christ killers by the Catholic Church, it is doubtful that they managed to covertly overthrow empires that had been around for centuries and had armies and assassins at their disposal.

            As for the story of the Rothschilds taking over Britain by convincing people that Napoleon had defeated Wellington at the Battle of Waterloo (has that deception even been confirmed in a proper source?), thereby manipulating the stock market in their favor to the point of gaining ownership of Britain, my question would be: “What in the hell would’ve kept King George lll from disappearing Mayer and his five sons? The British Empire, with its armies and assassins, got financially womped by six clever Jews and the King just said, “Oh darn, those Jewish bankers are so clever, I guess we’ll just have to bow down to them from now on and pray that they are merciful.” Seriously??? I’ve asked this question many times before and no one has given me an answer.

            So, IMO, Jews are a red herring of sorts, used by the royals to divert attention away from themselves. The vast majority of Jews in the U.S. don’t even know what the NWO is – they are just regular people. But yes, Rothschild’s minions have played a significant part in the NWO. I still maintain that you can’t call them Jews, just as you can’t call the Pope and his pedophile priests good Catholics. They are most likely Luciferians; what they definitely are not are decent, god-fearing people. Traditional religion is simply a cover for these monsters.

            As for the patriots that focus on all things “Jooo,” they are slitting their own throats IMO. Even if Zionist Jews ARE at the very top of the pyramid (which is ludicrous to me because the NWO do not worship Yahweh, whose promises in the OT form the ostensible basis for Zionism), even if they are at the top of the Illuminati heap, SO WHAT? If I read a news story about some La Cosa Nostra gangsters who just got busted, do I automatically say to myself, “Them damn Italians?” Of course not. It wouldn’t even cross my mind, as I know that ethnicity has zero to do with evil. I would simply think, “Those damn criminals.” It matters not whether the said perpetrator of a crime is White, Black, Jewish, Christian, Italian, Polish or Irish.

            Whether or not the top NWO dogs are Ashkenazi Jews or not means nothing to me, because if they are, they do not represent the vast majority of Jews and do not adhere to the 10 Commandments. Aside from the alleged Ashkenazi/Sephardic dichotomy, they are not god-fearing Jews. Therefore, focusing on all things “Joo” only serves to dissuade most sheeple from seriously looking at government corruption (who don’t want to be associated with bigots and neo-Nazis) while accomplishing nothing positive or enlightening whatsoever.

            If the top dogs are not Ashkenazi Jews, the NWO still scores a major victory by convincing so many patriots that all of the evil in the world is the sole doing of Ashkenazi Jews. EITHER WAY, THEY WIN by relegating the anti-NWO movement to a fringe, neo-Nazi movement that will never gain mass appeal.

            So, that’s my take on the focus by some on all things Zionist. Before I was awakened to the existence of the NWO, I had no idea that many patriots were so hung up on race and religion. Not all to be sure, but far too many. All of the myriad crimes committed by non-Jews (who vastly outnumber Jews both now and in the past) are never mentioned or are downplayed by some as being “Zionist manipulation of the goy,” as if non-Jews really are incapable of truly evil acts. If an article deals with Bill Gates, no mention of religion or race is mentioned on the Infowars and Prison Planet comment sections (for the most part). If Diane Feinstein is the subject of the article, the race bashing unabashedly commences. The whole thing depresses me greatly, as I fear that we will never defeat the NWO, but even if we do defeat them, the hatred and division will simply continue in another form.

            As for Palidin, it seems that if government “authorities” decree something, even the partitioning of foreign lands by means of military victory, it’s moral and legal in Palidin’s eyes. I guess, by that definition, U.S. and U.N. sanctions against Iraq in the 90’s that resulted in the death of half a million Iraqi children was moral, legal and proper. WTF!!!!!

          • LysanderSpooner

            There is a way to settle the genetics for sure. Both the Jews and Arabs protect Abraham’s tomb. Also buried there is Sarah, Jacob, Leah, Isaac, and Rebeka. That is where the true genetic marker lies for all Hebrews; and if the DNA of Abraham could be singled out, the marker for the Arabs would also be identified. But the Khazars (Ashkenazi Jews) know better than to let this happen and use instead some unsubstantiated source as a reference marker. The solution is available if they really want to know.
            Have you ever read The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion? It originates from the former Khazar region of Russia. And why do they refer to other Jews as second class citizens? Just like the Ashkenazi majority treat the Shephardic minority who look a little too much like their cousins.
            They recommend that the goyim to treat the decsenants of Amalek; just like the Babylonian Talmud says. The occult Kabbalah in its modern form also originates with the Khazars.

          • bariola

            I’ve read the Protocols. Hundreds of lines are plagiarized almost verbatim from Joly’s 1864 book, “The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu.” The Protocols were first published in Russia in 1903. Sorry, I put zero stock in that putrid attempt to demonize all Jews.
            As for medieval Jews not viewing their Catholic oppressors too fondly, that hardly comes as a surprise. The Catholic Church blamed the Jews, ALL Jews, for Christ’s death on the cross.
            Tribalism and hatred can be found amongst all peoples in all times and places. To focus only on Jews is racist – period. Mind you, I am not saying that Jews are above reproach, I am saying that ALL people are basically the same. Are you implying that all people are not the same?

          • LysanderSpooner

            I am saddened to think that I came across as demonizing all Jews. With my ancestral background I may be be part Khazar or Jewish myself. Almost all people likely have some sort of Hebrew DNA. Undoubtedly Zionism is a conspiracy, as are goyim illuminatists, etc.
            What is interesting about my background is that I read the Torah regularly; in the original Hebrew language. I have had multiple conversations, some face-to-face with a Rabbi from the Temple Institute and one who is famous on Israeli radio. (Because of this format I don’t care to drop their names here). I have seen, in person, the blue prints for the Temple’s Sanhedrin and the Breast Plate of the High Priest with the Tribal Stones embedded in it..
            I have studied the Talmud and Kabbalah and reject them both. I read the Tanakh but only consider the Torah as inspired; and only as a narrative on the ways of righteousness and justice (in combination with philosophical teachings on the Natural Law)..
            Most of the Scriptures are written in ancient Hebrew poetry and cannot be realistically understood unless a person reads ancient Hebrew and understands the poetic format. That is why Christians will never understand its true meaning, because hardly any of them read Hebrew and they interpret it not as narrative and poetry; but rather hermeneutically (etymologically linked to the god Hermes for a reason).
            I consider myself completely non-religious, but if a label must be applied I am a Tseduqeem (Sadducee), and not the false Christian definition, but defined as one who seeks the way of righteousness and justice. That would include gaining wisdom from the writings of Cicero, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Ayn Rand, and especially Lysander Spooner.

          • bariola

            I apologize for jumping to conclusions. I guess, after debating neo-Nazis for the last 5 years, I’m a little hyper-sensitive. I just wish we could all get along. There is so much division that I fear that good people will never be able to get organized enough to defeat the power elite.

            As for your beliefs and inspirations, that’s a pretty eclectic mix.

          • LysanderSpooner

            I understand, and thank you for the kind words. I sincerely believe we would all get along better if we all were more eclectic in our beliefs. Anything else from my point of view is a mindless cult.

          • ElevatorUrinator~

            ^We’ve definitely found a jew. It’s screen name is “bariola” jeweyola is more like it.

            Did you forget that Hitler was a jew, as was a portion of the nazi leadership, and the unmistakable fact that jews funded the nazis and got their exact stated objective out of WW2 (which they created) which was the theft of Palestine?

            Oh, those jews are just oppressed people and some of them fell in league with the “luciferians” lolol Riiiiiiight. Fucking skumbag kike, you’re trying way too hard it gave you away, better luck next time.

            Let’s not forget that monotheism started with judaism, and the “jewish bible” and all the jewish characters plagiarized into previous pagan lore and turned into people like “jesus christ” lol what kind of name is that? FAKE! The muslims are the jews perfect controlled opposition, ISIS anyone?

            Jew religion, jew banks, jew media, jew hollywood, jew entertainment industry, wars for jews that only gentiles fight which benefit pissrahell the jewish war machine, yet the jews are innocent.

          • Elevator~

            should read *from previous religious lore.

            Also, the Protocols are the jews exact plan. There is nothing fake about them.

            Again, nice try crypt0-kike.

          • bariola

            Yes, the Protocols are genuine, which is why whole passages are stolen from Joly’s book, written a half century before the Protocols were first published. Nice try Adolph.

          • bariola

            Of course, since I hate neo-Nazi cretins, I MUST be Jewish.

            Hitler was supposedly something like 1/4 Jewish, if that is even true. What’s your point exactly about that?

            I’m not religious, but what’s your beef with monotheism? Is Pantheism better?

            Question: Who gave the Rothschilds their start? Ah yes, Protestant royalty. LMAO

          • bariola

            Elevator urinator – an apt moniker.

          • ElevatorUrinator~

            YES. There are humans and there are lowly kike parasites such as yourself.

            Jews are like everyone else? Let’s see does everyone else



          • bariola

            Ya know, a lack of paragraphs and small letters indicates that you are an uneducated, hate-ridden reject.

          • This is a really well written comment. I believe the Joos are a red herring as well. Have you researched the Jesuit angle of those that control us?

          • bariola

            Thanx, and no, I haven’t really read too much on the Jesuits. Do you know of any historically accurate books, articles or documentaries on them? There’s so much disinfo on the web that it’s hard to navigate through all of the muck and mire at times, at least it is for me.
            Truthfully, I don’t know who is at the top of the NWO pyramid, as I don’t go to their meetings. The absolute head of the NWO could make a TV appearance on Oprah (just for fun and to mock us) and we wouldn’t even know it. Given that the power elite are sick phucks, I wouldn’t put something like that past them. My bet is on the royals of Britain and Europe, but it could be the Pope, or some black Pope behind the curtains. I think they are all Luciferians.

          • I tend to agree with you about Luciferianism. Even if they don’t really believe it, the fact that it messes with most of the bible believers is good enough for them. I think the power structure is mostly an illusion propagated by the top 300 families. There HAS to be a top 300 families in terms of wealth in our money system, whether their wealth is thousands of years old is another question. I have a few links here you may persue

          • Paladin13

            It’s spelled Paladin. And whether or not Balfour was an Illuminati is not relevant. The British promised Jews before WWII occurred a homeland. And who aided and abetted the Nazis in trying to exterminate the Jews? The Muslims in the Middle East. The modern borders in the Middle East were written by the western nations in 1920 – 1922. So let’s reorder all borders in the Middle East. Let’s give a large part of Jordan to Israel, as was originally promised.

          • LysanderSpooner

            Sorry about misspelling your name.
            I used to think as you did. The moral question is by what right and authority did western nations have a right to decide borders in the Middle East. Unless you believe that ‘might is right’ over ‘justice and righteousness’.

            More often than not the western nations divided tribal families with histories going back as far as can be remembered. Was this perhaps done on purpose to cause conflict; so that they could be manipulated and controlled? Most of the ruling families, who comprise self proclaimed kings, are not even of the majority tribal units; but were put into power by the west.

            if you are a Bible believer what was promised to Abraham is to be divided as follows:
            Deuteronomy 21:15 “If a man has two wives, the one loved and the other unloved, and both the loved and the unloved have borne him sons, if the firstborn son belongs to the unloved,
            Deuteronomy 21:16 then it shall be in the day he wills what he has to his sons, he cannot make the son of the loved the firstborn before the son of the unloved, who is the firstborn.
            Deuteronomy 21:17 “But he shall acknowledge the firstborn, the son of the unloved, by giving him a double portion of all that he has, for he is the beginning of his strength; to him belongs the right of the firstborn.

            Clearly these verses are in reference to Abraham’s unloved wife Hagar’s. And yes, in the original Hebrew it is clear that Abraham married her. The firstborn of Abraham is clearly Ishmael; from whom the Arabs are descended. So they get 2/3 of Abraham’s inheritance. if you give the Sinai Peninsula back to Israel then things would be per the Scriptures. The Gaza strip belonged to the Philistines; who were not Canaanites. That territory was never promised to Israel. Yet today there are no known descendants of the Philistines; so that makes it a disputed area. Maybe it should be made a UN protectorate and a free trade zone. Imagine how that area would economically prosper instead of being a liability and cesspool of terror.

          • Paladin13

            Hagar was a concubine, not a wife to Abraham. Wives and concubines were not equals.

          • LysanderSpooner

            Genesis 16:3 After Abram had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Abram’s wife Sarai took Hagar the Egyptian, her maid, and gave her to her husband Abram as his wife.
            The word ‘wife’ is the Hebrew word ‘eeshah’ that indeed translates as wife. However clearly in that chapter Hagar remains as Sarah’s maidservant; demonstrating that Sarah as wife was superior to Hagar as wife. Also the vowel/consonant letter ‘yod’, that is left in the word wife in reference to Hagar seems to indicate a wife in a lower sense.
            The Hebrew word for concubine (pilegesh) appears nowhere in this verse or in any other reference to Hagar. Besides read the Genesis story of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar and tell me to what other story in Genesis this reference in Deuteronomy 21:16 could be inferring to.
            Thanks for the challenge. I like it when I am forced to recheck my facts.

          • sailorbill

            well written guest,jews should be sent back to RUSSIA

          • Jay Zaim

            so the Balfour declaration of 1917 is a myth.A jewish national home in “PALESTINE”.I smell hasbaraT.

            The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom’s Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.
            QUOTE: “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in PALESTINE of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing NON-JEWISH communities in PALESTINE, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

            and give us a break the holocaust card which is maxed out. Tens of millions died in that war,we know they did,yet we dont receives a weekly reminder. Move on Mr.NAzionist.

          • Paladin13

            Thank you for the quote. It confirms that there was no “Palestinian” people by that name until 1967. Otherwise, Lord Balfour would have specifically used the name Palestinians or Palestinian people. Those living in the area called Palestine were subjects of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years until it was defeated in WWI and were most likely of Syrian descent.

            Here’s a website about the prophecies of the jubilees as predicted by Rabbi Judah ben Samuel:
            Your side – the modern neo-Nazis – are already destined to lose according to the Bible. I suggest you turn away from you current path and embrace the Lord Jesus as your Savior, Redeemer and God and repent of your sins.

          • Jay Zaim

            Get back on your meds.Jesus.

          • Paladin13

            I’m not Jesus. But thank you for this answer also, as it lacks any rebuttal or content and therefore confirms my position and repudiates yours.

          • Jay Zaim

            Big words for a kike.Whats the going rate for hasbaraT now? On Lord Balfour using the term Palestine ment the land existed.The rest of your argument is redundant.Colour it as you may FREE PALESTINE.

          • Paladin13

            I’m only part kike. The rest is Goyim. Glad to see that you’ve revealed that you’re an anti-Semite. Refreshing. May the Messiah Lord Jesus, the only begotten Son of God and God Himself – and a JEW – cause you to repent of your sins and believe on Him as your Savior.
            Palestine is the name the Romans gave the land after they forced the Jews out after the conquest and destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD on the ninth of Av. Both the First and Second Temples were destroyed on the 9th of Av. No coincidence with God.
            I feel sorry for you. You think you know a lot but you are truly ignorant. This Kike/Goyim mix will pray for you.

          • Jay Zaim

            LOL Amazing the shadows you create all to keep your true intent hidden.That of genocide and plunder of middle east newly discovered oil.So Syria,Palestine,Lebanon,Libya,Yemen all go up in flames. The naZionist Yinon plan in full flow while you keep the world buzy looking at your bastard creation ISIS. You sick fuk:

          • Paladin13

            You’re ranting. It’s your side that’s calling for the destruction of Israel which means the genocide of the Jews/Israelis. I understand that Obama is funding ISIS. Well, Obama is pro-Muslim and anti-Jew, anti-Israel and anti-Christian. Obama’s on your side. Unfortunately for you and him, your side loses according to the Bible.

          • Jay Zaim

            The oldest lie ever told. Free Palestine.

          • Jay Zaim

            Yup any time a naZionist cant reply to logic the famous “antisemite” card or better still remember the holocaust.Guess what kikeman millions of other people died in WW2 but you dont get a weekly reminder.Woe is me.As per your logic why go roman lets go even futher back when the jew was a wandering mix of idots.Who parked where ever they could suck the lifeblood out of the race that lived on the land till they got booted out onto the next host.Working that logic every historical empire has claims all over the globe. isREAl is a blot on humanity funded by stole loot by the jew.Get used to it.No whitewash here.

          • Letitride

            Might want to check your history…about who lived there first and which religion came first

          • bariola

            Who lived there first? The Hebrews 2500 years? Yes, I’m sure no one lived there before the Hebrews (well, except perhaps for the people that Yahweh allegedly told the Israelites to exterminate).

            Are you freaking for real? If I have ancestors who lived on a small parcel of land in Ireland 2000 years ago, am I going to go to Ireland in 2015 and claim that land is mine? Are you daft? The fact is, the Brits gave the land to a bunch of sociopathic Jews who delighted in usurping the mish mash of Arabs who are now referred to as Palestinians. They did this in order to establish a base of operations from which to pillage the entire Middle East for oil, opium, minerals and sheer land mass, which is exactly what they’ve done (along with the other western nations in tow). How the hell would you like it if some foreign government gave your property to someone else?

            BTW, lest you pull the race/religion card, I happen to be Jewish. However, I don’t give a rat’s ass about religion, as religion is simply a way for elites to control sheeple. What I care about is truth and justice – period. And just FYI, many Israeli citizens hate the Israeli government and just want peace. Pretty much all governments are corrupt – some just hide their tyranny better than others.

            Sorry, I don’t base my socio-political world-view on a book of myths in which donkeys talk, virgins give birth and god commands his people to kill every male – even male children and take the virgins as war booty/slaves. Why the hell would you?

          • Letitride

            I’m a diest I don’t necessarily believe in God just don’t discount the possibility of the existence of a “god”

            We were not discussing the ideals of government

            That’s the furthest claim I can find in history to that land now.. please explain to me why you think its Palestinian and what do you think should happen to the current state of Israel?

            Also around ww1 there was the Balfour declaration…

            Many Jews already lived in the land, after ww2 they just finally decide to recognize Israel as a state mainly to help protect it…

          • bariola

            I apologize for accusing you of being a religious fundamentalist and for being a bit snippy. Yes, Arabs and Jews had been living together more or less peacefully for many centuries in the region. It wasn’t until the Balfour Declaration and the forced expulsion and sequestering of Arabs that relations began to deteriorate. As I might’ve stated elsewhere here, this was not done for the benefit of the Jewish people, but in order for the Brits and its Western allies to establish a base of operations from which they could pillage the entire region for oil, opium, minerals and sheer land mass, which is exactly what they have done. Save for Syria and Iran, every Middle Eastern nation is controlled by the Western mafia/corporatocracy, which they themselves have referred to as the New World Order.

            So, as I see it, we are indeed talking about ideals of government; in this case, imperialism under the guise of giving the Jews their own homeland. As one example, IMO, it is no coincidence that since our occupation of Afghanistan in 2001, opium production has risen from around 10% of world supply to over 90%. Geraldo Rivera even did a piece on how we help the Afghan locals grow opium – all to establish friendly relations. You don’t really think that Achmed, the local goat-herder and part-time drug dealer is making billions? Every major mega-bank has been repeatedly caught laundering billions in drug cartel money and not one banking official has seen a day in jail. Have you heard of the Opium Wars?

            The fact is, the British East Indian Company never died, but brought in the rest of the Western nations to form their New World Order mafia. Malthus’s dire predictions re: overpopulation gave them an impetus to unite and plan for their ultimate goal of culling the herd. Social Darwinism gave them the rationale for their right to do this to humanity. The power elite will ensure that their bloodlines continue – at any cost.

          • Boni Biggun

            Both Israel & the USAcorp are ROTHSCHILD PUPPETS. Hence, Israel was behind 911 and most FALSE FLAGS. Along with the rest of the banker cartel ABC agencies, CIA, MI6, MOSSAD…
            NEOCON has nothing to do with it, so stop parroting “their” Hegelian dialectic!

          • bariola

            The royals gave the Rothschilds their start and no doubt still hold a position of authority over them. The Rothschilds were the ultimate hofjuden.

          • Letitride

            911 was not a false flag operation it was an act of terrorism that the United states government did not take seriously they have done a good job covering up the true menace… Government incompetence

            The war on drugs is big government at its worse it’s not a conspiracy its real the politicos just stay silent and don’t connect the dots that make up the war on drugs

            The oppression you are looking for is here it’s just not a conspiracy its out in the open the populace to blinded by years of drug war propaganda to see it

          • You are very misleading & off base. Let me clarify it for you. 911 was an open conspiracy, but the average person would think of it as conspiracy. It was a pre-planned event, to bring about a desired reaction/solution. This is the very definition of a false flag operation. The FAKE/REAL war on drugs, is the exact same thing. The CIA is well known to be a major player & can anyone say “OPIUM WARS!” I’m sorry, but you don’t know what your talking about or do & are a disinfo agent. Shalom

          • sailorbill

            Israel did 911 its coming to a head and no matter how you change subjects,put up barriers the truth will prevail.

          • sailorbill

            get a life ,how mush proof dos one need ,hells bells i could list a dozen absolute proofs,done be blind,Zionists are the USA’s problem they are like a disease in the politics of the USA

          • AliasEight

            gee sailorbill I don’t need “mush” proof at all – I’ll settle for some proof though! thank you.

          • sailorbill

            911 was an attack on the USA the same as pearl harbour, It was an act of WAR against the US and c***s like you who keep asking for proof piss me off.There is so many truths coming out pointing to Israels involvement with the help of the elites in the white house and you wont open your f*****g eyes because YOU are the problem,a shill traitor.well buddy its coming when every Israeli and dual citizen will be interned.

      • Boni Biggun

        How ironic, a government shill trying to call out someone who is telling the truth, like he’s the government troll! We can spot your kind a mile away! Now go slither back to whatever hole you came out of!

        • bariola

          Why is he a shill?

          • “The U.S. has never been stronger at any time in its history.” One of MANY OBVIOUS SHILL COMMENTS. He’s either evil, willfully ignorant or BOTH!

      • esquire2

        Your post ignores the fundamental elements of “natural law” … laws of gravity, magnetism, heat an light … and the most basic law in the human existence …

        “Good vs. Evil”, a testament to the existence of both.

        “The Word “Happiness” would lose its meaning if it were not balanced by Sadness”.

        Carl Jung

        The conflict is whether each of us chooses to strive for “Good” … or “Evil”.

      • bariola

        America is simply a member of the Western global mafia. It is the primary military ho bag of the old money powers that run the West and much of the globe. Once we have outlived our usefulness, we will be decimated, unless enough people wake up in time to the political reality around them to make a difference.

        As for the CIA, as with all of the alphabet agencies, you do have grunts who think they are doing the right thing and you also have Machiavellian warriors who believe that the end justifies the means. However, the atrocities that the CIA have committed attests to the fact that some operatives are simply evil bastards.

      • disqus_qbAqOQYRap

        I realize it’s late,but you wouldn’t happen to play chess would you?

  • gozounlimited
  • Lee Oswald

    You forgot to mention Operation Northwoods, a potpourri of false flag events that was proposed to JFK back in 1962 which he subsequently rejected. And probably got himself killed by the CIA for doing so too.

    • that was mentioned, it’s the 6th one down.

  • Zenobia van Dongen

    Talking about false-flag terror, WashingtonsBlog really blew it with its “Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil” item on May 1, 2013. It swallowed hook, line and sinker a line of condswallop it picked up from Loonwatch. If you measure terror attacks by the number of people killed instead of by the number of attacks, it turns out that Islamist terrorists scored 94% pver the 1971-2005 period. Read all about it at

    • vance

      Interesting how the “left-wing” is now Islamophobic and the “right wing” is now tolerant of Muslims. Governments wage war on their own citizens. Governments have done this since their inception, when they were roving bands of marauders on horseback that settled over a few villages to exact “tribute” on a regular basis — this came to be known as taxation. “Governments do not raise taxes to fight wars; government wage wars to raise taxes.” — Thomas Paine

  • berger friedrich-wolfgang

    What happened to “Zenobia van Dongen”? Did She undergo “Gender-Change”, or is your machine playing “FALSE FLAG OP.” ?

  • The mainstream media is the biggest false flag of them all.

    • berger friedrich-wolfgang

      Do We “trust” in “God”, – in the “Over-All Good”, or in the “sucked-up NARRATIVES”; used to “deceive” the ‘Consumer(?) , transported by the Media ? – The Fraud is not the Media , but the “Publisher” , pursuing “his hidden Agenda”, “Manipulating /covering” the “TRUTH”!

  • onebornfree

    Strange that there is zero mention of the biggest and most successful false flag in modern history: 9/11,[complete with 100% faked “live” MSM TV footage on that day, see: ] nor of the baby children it has spawned, 7/7, Sandy Hook, Boston etc. etc.

    Regardless, the fact of the matter is that if you have a government in the first place, false flags carried out by that government, to justify its existence, increase its power and financially reward its many sycophants, are an inevitable consequence of having that government.

    For the individual who comes to understand all this, the only answer I can see is personal [i.e individual] secession from “the matrix”.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • vance

      Unfortunately, the American people are not ready for that much truth.

  • Charles

    Wow! You mean the state is a mass murderer of totally innocent men, women and children? …. Who’d a thunk?

  • royals85

    America we have a problem, which is an out of control elite seeking to rule the world and enrich themselves. The Davos club, or whatever they call themselves, will seek control through any means available to them. Whether by murder, war or outright buying of anyone who is willing to accept their blood money.
    The Davos Club is now planning to rid the world of religion by fomenting hate between the Big Three, Christianity, Judaism and Islam. We do have good people within our FedGov who are trying to stop this war. Davos has folks in both the Dem and Repub parties, so withdraw your affiliation with these parties immediatley, if not sooner. The future of a free America is at stake.
    I have looked the enemy in the eye and he are U.S. Once we get rid of our first enemy, then we can a identify the second and that is the Davos Club.
    Good day!

  • anarchyst

    What about the deliberate Israeli attack on the U S S Liberty??

  • Veracity

    Still don’t dare to go all the way to the recent big one: 911? Are the Zio crimes off limits? The US is totally in control of the Zio crims so maybe we better keep quiet about their FF Terrorism.

    • bariola

      Zionism is an NWO red herring meant to attract idiots who tends towards bigotry and tribalism. This narrow focus on all things “Jooo” by some so-called patriots is insuring that the Patriot Movement is forever relegated to a fringe movement that will NEVER gain mass appeal. Good freaking job.

      Got news for you: if every Jew were disappeared off of the planet – NOT ONE THING WOULD CHANGE. This is because PEOPLE are corruptible. There are traitors and thieves and sadists in all races and ethnicities – why do I even have to say this to adults?

      • Duhmazing

        I think you have a nice brain. 😉

        • bariola

          Why thank you (I think). I just want the good guys to win. And I hate the bad guys, whether we’re talking about the Pope and his pedophile priests, the royal leeches of Britain and Europe or the Rothschilds and their cronies. I need a drink……………..

        • bariola

          Seems that this post just disappeared. Don’t know why. Again:

          Why thank you (I think). I just want the good guys to win. And I hate the bad guys, whether we’re talking about the Pope and his pedophile priests, the royal leeches of Britain and Europe or the Rothschilds and their cronies. I need a drink……………..

  • “Terrorism” has been made The Issue of the Century, for which Americans are expected to tighten their belts, pay countless billions in taxes so the U.S. government and its allies can arm to the teeth, and suffer an escalating repression of their liberties.

    Yet who the terrorists are supposed to be remains vague and shadowy. Their only apparent common characteristic is that they are swarthy and foreign; no Nordics need apply.

    In New York and many other cities of the United States, hundreds of innocent men, women, and children are terrorized every day, in crimes called mugging. Should the United States government carpet-bomb New York City, destroying it for “harboring” terrorists, and for allowing them to use the city as a “base”? But, you might say, that would mean murdering masses of innocents? Sure, so why then is it OK for the United States government to shell middle eastern villages, murdering the innocent?

    The U.S. says that they deplore having to kill innocents, but since they feel that they must “retaliate,” and they can’t pinpoint the actual terrorists – in fact, they don’t know where the terrorists are or even who they are – therefore, they must do something, and killing the innocent becomes a regrettable necessity.

    But how does such an argument differ from the U.S. government carpet-bombing New York City (“We must retaliate, and it is regrettable that we have to kill thousands, but we can’t pinpoint the SOB’s”). Or, for that matter, how does it differ from policemen trying to catch a criminal fleeing into a crowd, and simply machine-gunning the entire crowd?

    Furthermore, every group on both sides of this perpetually insane war on terror has grounds to believe that they are “retaliating”.

    The rule should be absolute: no “retaliation” is ever justified that injures or kills innocent people, and that means people who are not themselves active criminals. Anything else is an apologia for unremitting and unending mass murder; anything else is chaos and old night, and a justification for “anarchy” in the bad sense.

    Everyone rightfully scorns Communists for holding a double moral standard, for holding that no acts are immoral so long as they advance their cause. But what about the egregious and flagrant double moral standard upheld every day by the American establishment: from the White House down to the major political parties and the media? If they did not hold such a double standard, they would be forever condemning the countless flagrant acts of immorality committed by their government.

  • berger friedrich-wolfgang

    A certain kind of “Global FALSE FLAG OP:”, not yet mentioned , is the “Substitution of Natural Crops” , for “Gen – modified Ones”; – “Huge Profit – generating”, is “FOOD”, produced by adding “Sickening Substances”. But already the willful “innocent little Lie” is a “false flag”!

  • John Y.

    It is amazing how much GARBAGE is on the internet. This discussion is a great example

    • Alleged Comment

      You wouldn’t believe the amount of ignorant sheep that write like you do, also.

    • bilwis

      ironic, you are in it. you are part of it now and forever a ingredient of this garbage stew.

  • Giancarlo

    “A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that …”

    Pity that you
    are endorsing the very sources you seem to denounce: if you had widened a bit your perspective, you might have realized that reference is given to kangaroo trials where the accusers got all the confessions they wanted. Style & script have not changed, e.g. see Khalid Shaykh Muhammad,
    Abu Graib & Guantanamo..

    As for examples, it i rather odd you look that far while missing the obivious, see USS Maine, SS Lusitania, Pearl Harbour and USS Maddox to mention some oldies, then Beyrut83 , Alkhobar, Bali, Madrid, London and, it goes without saying, Nine Eleven..

    Quoting T:E: Elliot:

    «The last temptation is the worst treason, doing the right deed for the wrong reason..»

  • Rogoraeck

    Well, I don’t give a s**t what you call me, but IMHO scratch every false flag operation the last 150 years or so & you will find ” The light upon nations” behind it!

  • Gman

    TPP- Fukushima – False Flag events, all should be permanent links on Front Page.

  • scs2000

    Sandy Hook
    Boston Bombing
    Aurora shooting
    Siekh Temple shooting
    LAX shooting
    Navy Yard shooting

    Just a few in a long long long list of false flags

  • Rivertree1024

    If you want to learn more, lots of historical written & video evidence of such government activity in this documentary

  • Arizona

    NOW that america has no rules ,THE government really doesn’t need a reason to NUKE americans,as a matter of fact they’ll welcome it,this country used to make things for every household to use,BUT not any more,americans only make things to KILL someones children,spy drones,weapons of mass destruction,poison virus to inject into the children,and poisons for the air force to spray on the land KILLING everything,AMERICA YOU HAVE BECOME A VERY DEMONIC NATION,and your so LAME you think the rest of the world likes it,WELL they plan to BLOW your demonic ass off the planet…..ALL the nations are waking up,THEY have realized who the real TERRORISTS are,the USA…………………

  • Arizona

    IN the not to distant future,some brave soul will shoot your demonic black lab dog right in the head,WHEN that happens,YOUR going to see 70 federal agencies waring it out for control,PLUS all the foreign military thats in this country,I surely hope YOU realize whats about to happen,YOU BETTER WAKEUP,your families LIFE will be on the line,this will be a bloodbath to end ALL BLOODBATHES,it will completely destroy america,and you have no excuse,THOMAS JEFFERSON warned you a standing military would destroy your nation,IF YOU ALLOWED IT,so wakeup or kiss your ass good by……………….

  • John62

    Wait, whut? 9/11/2001 was NOT a false flag event? Only the mother of all!

  • Amos Martin

    “Garrow and Rush, a Fox News regular, have both insisted that Obama almost nuked America until three anonymous members of the military [brass] blocked his deadly false flag plan, which Garrow claims was meant to help George Soros make money by betting against the US dollar.”

    • Alleged Comment

      If they can put in a sodomite negro as your phony leader, they are capable of fooling anyone. Including you.

  • Alleged Comment

    On the Radio show Ground Zero, the host claims the D.B. Cooper hijacking was done as a FF operation to justify a law regulating airlines for some sort of nefarious control over its citizens.

    D.B. Cooper I think he said was a SF soldier used to carry out the job as evidence seem to suggest this.

  • Ricky Ross

    Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the

    And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with ear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.

    How do I know this? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.

    – Julius Ceasar

  • Ricky Ross

    Judge Napolitano says the FBI is behind most “terrorist attacks”…

  • usmcmailman

    Also, Israel committed the attack on the U.S.S. Cole and aided in 9/11 .

  • esquire2

    Raises Questions about Benghazi, Fast & Furious, and even courting political support for ObamaCare and Immigration Reform.

    “The Constitution of the United States” is the greatest document ever created to control a government via “limitations” on governmental powers.

    Most of our statutes comply with constitutional standards.

    What reason would anyone have (or “create”) to undermine what has been the most successful exercise of government in the history of this planet? and where will it be born?

    The Answer is obvious … GREED and POWER! most probably … from the “left”.

    To combat the efforts of the “left”, the US needs to return to its Constitutional roots.

    * REPEAL the 17th Amendment:

    * implement TERM LIMITS;

    * and Terminate any and all RETIREMENT PAY for ALL Elected Offices.

    We must remain alert for incursions into the roots of this Nation … for purposes of undermining our resolve. These incursions will most likely come from liberals / progressives … etc. and will be initiated (accomplished) through our courts. … and that’s a Fact, Jack!

    Thos. Jefferson warned against this TYRANNY in 1821.

    Less than 200 years later, it is nearly a fait accompli!

  • Arminius Aurelius

    Let us not forget the biggest most viscous False Flag operation of all. On June 8 , 1967 , a U.S. Communications ship the U.S.S. Liberty was in International waters and was attacked by Israeli Jets and Torpedo Boats . This was done in broad daylight , the ship was flying a large American Flag and was clearly marked with the name of the ship and its identification numbers [ 6 foot tall ] . It was only lightly armed [ not being a war ship . 34 U.S. Sailors and Marines were murdered and 171 were severely wounded out of a crew of 294 . [ 70 % ] The idea was to sink the ship with no survivors and then blame it on Egypt so that the U.S. would declare war on Egypt . To this day our Congressmen ignore this massacre and still gift Israel with over 3 Billion dollars every year . Traitors All .

    • vance

      Remember the USS Liberty! I spoke with two survivors of the Liberty. They said that the Liberty had intercepted communications that the Israeli Army under Moshe Dayan had massacred more than 850 Egyptians in the Sinai desert after they had been handcuffed and captured — a war crime in gross violation of the Geneva Convention. They were determined that they would not let this secret out, but the Liberty had intercepted Arabic translations of the events just before and during the massacre, and Dayan had determined that the Liberty could not under any circumstances relay the message to the world. The Liberty was attacked in broad daylight with the US flag in full view of the airplane attackers, who also used torpedos.

  • shannondede

    People have gone INSANE with their paranoia. We are the US and Bad things happen either individually or to a state or a nation. These conspiracy theories are getting out of hand and Obscene. The fact they even are saying the government is controlling the weather. Where will it end? I do believe however that our food being modified has led to an overwhelming populous of Mental Illness that has gone untreated. Maybe Obama needs to write that into the ObamaCare law.

    • KeepTheChange

      You couldn’t be more wrong. Everything you thought you knew to be true is a LIE.

      • johnrhett

        I agree. Nothing is what it seems to be. Everyone lies, and the government lies 100% all the time.

    • bilwis

      agree or disagree, just keep thinking.

    • vance

      Who are the paranoid ones, Shannondede? The ones criticizing the government for its false flag terrorism, or, the ones in government and their sheeple voters who demand more surveillance, more overseas wars, more taxation, more oppression and a domestic police state?? Just who are the paranoid ones? Hint — try walking into an FBI office sometime and tell them you’d just like to “look around.”

  • ZeroSum1

    Us Political Jhadist, Mass shooters for the gun ban was not listed? wow really. that is the most obvious one the media tries to bury so vastly.

  • King Kung

    God bless America and the CIA ! – may you continue to prosper and do the right thing.

    • vance

      “Guest” works for the CIA.

  • disenfranchised

    I think people have to realize that false flag operations are occurring all over the world. I served with many other soldiers in north Africa/middle east between 2004-2007. I’ll never forget the fresh-faced kid from Blackwater that was working as an intelligence analyst and strategist at the time. Benjamin Gotchberg (Gochberg?) didn’t look like much, but most people who spoke to him had now idea that he was running flase flag and propoganda campaigns in multiple countries. I hear he eventually left service and ended up in operations domestically under some other false flag campaign.

  • Sad from War

    Dr. Alan Sabrosky makes a very convincing case that Israel with the aid of their neo-con allies did 9/11 as a false flag.

    Dr. Sabrosky is part Jewish & taught for more five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute. The Army War College graduated famous Generals such as Dwight D. Eisenhower, George S. Patton, Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr. & Tommy Franks.

    Dr. Sabrosky points out that most Americans don’t know 3 things about 9/11:
    1. World Trade center bldg. 7 (WTC 7) was the 3rd building to free fall into its own foot print on 9/11. This is without a plane hitting it or any apparent external damage caused by debris. Demolition expert Danny Jowenko said it was a controlled demolition.
    2. The secondary explosions at the base of the twin towers (WTC 1 & 2) before they fell. Not only was bldg. 7 was a controlled demolition, but also the twin towers.
    3. The suspicious vans (i.e. the dancing Israelis).

    Dr. Sabrosky said that only Israel has the 3 factors for a group that could do a controlled demolition of all 3 World Trade Center buildings. The factors are the motivation, expertise & critically the access.
    See Dr Sabrosky:

    This is very concerning. Patrick Clawson, Washington Institute (WINEP) Director of Research has implied in 2012 that Israel should create a false flag to start a war with Iran.

    WINEP is a think tank that has close ties to American Israel Public Affairs Committee or AIPAC. AIPAC is a pro-Israel lobbing group. It’s one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful lobby in the U.S.

    See Patrick Clawson:

  • The fact that such a large world population has access to instant media (smartphones,PCs, Internet, TVs everywhere, etc) makes false flags even more effective as a tools to sway the entire world’s thinking all at once. For the first time in human history, the whole world can be lied to all at once with the same lie instantly. If all of a sudden, all the phones, PCs, Internet, TVs, etc all went dark, there would be no way the world could be lied to instantly. The very thing we all enjoy is the very tool that will change the world’s thinking all at once.

  • Lou Hodges

    You also forgot to tell people about crisis actors. Www, and Visionbox.