September 11th and Pearl Harbor

What Do You Think? With Whom Do You Agree?

This is a new film by Italian filmmaker Massimo Mazzucco.

What do you think? With whom do you agree? We know what we think and who we agree with, but we’d like to hear from you.



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  • John-Michael Talboo
  • Not a word of the “official story” of 911 is true, if you examine it and don’t blindly take the word of “officials”.

    • Voice of Reason

      You are over the top. The best lies contain as much truth as possible. I haven’t seen the film yet but I have read enough about the original Pearl Harbor to know that too was at least a semi-false flag operation. In defense of FDR, other than maybe clearing possible impediments out of the way so the Japanese could succeed in taking the bait he planted for them at Pearl Harbor, FDR did not engage in active participation in the operation, as in planting explosives to make sure the old battleships would sink.

      • Why don’t you tell us what’s true about the “official story” of 911?

        • Voice of Reason

          Oh, I don’t know… planes hit building (at least 2 out of 3); buildings collapse as perfectly as possible so as not to damage surrounding property values; big hole in Pentagon wall;

          Here is a ‘charitable’ version. ‘The government’, through the same signals intelligence that gave it advanced warning of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, learned about somebody’s plans to stage a ‘big show’ and decided, for its own purposes, to help make it as spectacular as possible. hence Cheney’s “Let it be” comment in the Pentagon or wherever he was; the stand-downs, the confusion-sewing exercises, etc.

          My point was that if a lie has no possibility of being believed then it fails in its purpose as a lie. I don’t necessarily disagree that this one does – only that “Not a word of the “official story” of 911 is true,…”

        • Voice of Reason

          Oh, I don’t know… planes hit building (at least 2 out of 3); buildings collapse as perfectly as possible so as not to damage surrounding property values; big hole in Pentagon wall;

          Here is a ‘charitable’ version. ‘The government’, through the same signals intelligence that gave it advanced warning of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, learned about somebody’s plans to stage a ‘big show’ and decided, for its own purposes, to help make it as spectacular as possible. hence Cheney’s “Let it be” comment in the Pentagon or wherever he was; the stand-downs, the confusion-sewing exercises, etc.

          My point was that if a lie has no possibility of being believed then it fails in its purpose as a lie. I don’t necessarily disagree that this one does – only that “Not a word of the “official story” of 911 is true,…”

          • Planes hitting buildings: the SAID planes were not the planes.
            Hole in the Pentagon: yes, but what did it? No “boeing” parts…where’s the “boeing”?
            The hijackers couldn’t fly the planes, some of the hijackers reported ALIVE even by mainstream media, no video of “hijackers” in the SAID airports the “boeings” took off from. (the Maine video doesn’t count). No plane in the Shanksville hole.
            Shall I go on? I could list about 100 other LIES.
            No part of the 911 “official story” is true. Not one shred of evidence backs the “official story”.

          • Impossible “cell phone” calls, admitted in court in the Moussoui trial by the FBI that the cell calls weren’t made. Therefore, they were faked or simply lied about. Ted Olson caught in many lies about his CNN wife on the plane and the “box cutter” story. “Magical passport” found at ground zero unscathed implicating a “hijacker”.

          • FBI stated: “NO HARD EVIDENCE LINKING BIN LADEN TO 911 ATTACKS”.

  • xoxxxo

    Agree with Big Dan about the “official story”…the Mazzucco film is great! Also, after watching the new “TWA Flight 800” (Netflix) I think that “investigation” may have been in part an “investigation control exercise/operation” in preparation for some larger event, like 9/11. Be sure to see that film too.

  • Merican

    It’s like being Adam & Eve after a bite of the forbidden fruit….I have become a cynic that believes nothing from my government, nothing at all! I expect the worse.

  • joe anon 1

    9-11 was an israeli op with goyim(hebrew for unclean, pig puppets) inside help (the cheneys, rumsfelds sort of swine bootlicks).
    the many “american” jews involved are israeli.

  • James

    Sorry – I like most of this site – but this Pentagon crash “conspiracy theory” is a giant fail.

    Obviously whoever made that second video analyzing the supposed lack of debris from the airplane doesn’t have a clue what they are talking about.

    They say “the core of the two engines vanish without a trace” while showing a photo with wreckage of the engine(s) compressor stages clearly visible. They show a pile of wreckage and say “this doesn’t look like a wrecked engine” – saying it should look like one of the intact engines from other crashes – while showing a clear photo of a crumpled turbine engine case.

    Believe me, I know exactly what is in those pictures – and it is parts from badly crashed airliner engine(s).

    They say “the vertical stabilizer vanished” while they superimpose it over a perfectly sized and shaped vertical mark on the wall between the windows.

    They say “the wings disappeared” without thinking about the possibility that the debris got dragged into the building by the mass of wiring and bent metal as the plane disintigrated.

    They say “the plane couldn’t have created the perfectly round exit hole from the C ring” but mostly show the post clean up pictures of the hole – the pre-cleanup pictures shows a mound of plane wreckage laying in the hole.

    That video alone debunks the “9-11” conspiracy for me. You’d have to be highly ignorant or hell bent on fantasy to believe that an airliner didn’t go into the Pentagon with the photos from that single video – the proof is plain as day…

  • James

    Sorry – I like most of this site – but this Pentagon crash “conspiracy theory” is a giant fail.

    Obviously whoever made that second video analyzing the supposed lack of debris from the airplane doesn’t have a clue what they are talking about.

    They say “the core of the two engines vanish without a trace” while showing a photo with wreckage of the engine(s) compressor stages clearly visible. They show a pile of wreckage and say “this doesn’t look like a wrecked engine” – saying it should look like one of the intact engines from other crashes – while showing a clear photo of a crumpled turbine engine case.

    Believe me, I know exactly what is in those pictures – and it is parts from badly crashed airliner engine(s).

    They say “the vertical stabilizer vanished” while they superimpose it over a perfectly sized and shaped vertical mark on the wall between the windows.

    They say “the wings disappeared” without thinking about the possibility that the debris got dragged into the building by the mass of wiring and bent metal as the plane disintigrated.

    They say “the plane couldn’t have created the perfectly round exit hole from the C ring” but mostly show the post clean up pictures of the hole – the pre-cleanup pictures shows a mound of plane wreckage laying in the hole.

    That video alone debunks the “9-11” conspiracy for me. You’d have to be highly ignorant or hell bent on fantasy to believe that an airliner didn’t go into the Pentagon with the photos from that single video – the proof is plain as day…

    • Jackson

      I was a Doubting Thomas, too, until I watched Barbara Honegger’s “911 Attack – Beyond The Smoke Curtain.” It’s brilliant. Yes, there was an airplane, James, as you and I believe but … well, I’m humble enough to admit that all these years, while I’ve been right in being a 911 Commission doubter, I’ve been wrong about what actually happened.

      • james

        Personally I separate the 9-11 events from the real American tragedy – which is what took place in response to them.

        In doing so I have to give some credit to those who claim “the terrorists won”.

        In reality what happened was that forces that were already working to rewrite and trample the constitution and invade countries for economic reasons and appropriate funds to spy on everyone around the world all the time, and make it inconvenient to travel by air, and, and, and… – those forces were given the opportunity to move in during a time of upheaval. Most didn’t appear because of 9-11, they were already in place. They merely took advantage of the chaos, and some very clever marketing.

        But those changes are not permanent – although they were powerful decisions. We need to take them back. And that process is not unpatriotic – it’s not illegal – it’s not wrong in any way.

        What is wrong is to diffuse the singular focus on getting back control of our country by instigating and propagating silly conspiracies. (Which is likely the purpose of the silly conspiracies in the first place)

        I don’t need an engineering analysis of why the WTC buildings fell down. I watched it happen. I was called to the TV after the first plane hit. I watched on live TV the second plane hit the second tower and a short time later I watched in horror as the top part of that building started to lean slightly and then it fell down. I then watched the top of the first tower start to lean in exactly the same way and knew the same things was happening, then it fell down. I was as surprised as anybody that it happened. I didn’t think it could happen, but I watched with my own eyes. Yeah it was also strange to see WTC7 fall down hours later, but strange things happen all the time. Just because it’s strange doesn’t mean it’s not true.

        My point is that this stuff is produced as a distraction – one that is very carefully produced. And by design, it’s very difficult to discern the distractions from the truth.

        It’s an intentional “whiteout” which allows those skilled in manipulating to operate. Those responsible for false conspiracies are the new terrorists.

        I’m calling foul on this one.

        • jgibsosman

          …”I don’t need an engineering analysis of why the WTC buildings fell down. I watched it happen. I was called to the TV after the first plane hit. I watched on live TV the second plane hit the second tower and a short time later I watched in horror as the top part of that building started to lean slightly and then it fell down. I then watched the top of the first tower start to lean in exactly the same way and knew the same things was happening, then it fell down. I was as surprised as anybody that it happened. I didn’t think it could happen, but I watched with my own eyes. Yeah it was also strange to see WTC7 fall down hours later, but strange things happen all the time. Just because it’s strange doesn’t mean it’s not true.”….

          You mean sort of “It’s just one of those things! Nothing to see here! Move along, folks!” ? I hope not. But it almost seems that you are trying to tell me that.
          If so, you are doing this film, and the rest of us who live in this country, a disservice.

          The movie proves conspiracy and explosive demolition. If you watch it all carefully you will see that, or else you need to get some continuing education. That’s the way it is, just like water is wet, the sun is hot,and amoebas are very small. Elementary my dear Watson. Elementary.

          That’s just the way things are.
          . Sophism will not change what this movie is telling us. Hard facts, my friend. Hard facts and unavoidable conclusions. Help it, don’t walk away.

    • jgibsosman

      Watch it again, and do more reading.

  • Fullblad

    While I have read much of this information before, and other scientific theories on other aspects of this event, this presentation is very well done. What it all boils down to is the need to re convene an inquiry strictly under totally transparent public control with the widest terms of reference so that the truth and then those responsible can face justice. On the face of it, it seems totally absurb that any rational group would do this as a covert operation against it’s own people,unless they were crazy enough and filled too much with their own hubris so that they thought they could get away with this. Noam Chomsky has said this is an absurbity,but adding if this was a conspiracy by insiders they should face a firing squad. Re convene a truth commission and put the firing squad on notice that they may asked to assemble.

  • jgibsosman

    Thanks for creating this page.

    This is the movie that could turn things around.

    It is like a Bayeux Tapestry of 9/11; it tells (within reasonable limits) all of the story we need to know to make a real change.
    Please, everyone, please watch it, all of it, carefully, and then watch it again. You will not be bored.

    Then spread the good news of this remarkable three-part documentary. This is the definitive (so far) movie on 9/11.

    Production values are in every way superb. It’s suitable for a TV miniseries or theater showing. It’s magnificent piece of work and the best of the 9/11 truth movies so far. It’s the strong child of the great work that went before. It brings together their work, and discards what is in error or inappropriate, and the result is so worth watching, I can’t praise it enough.

    This is it. This is our chance to change perception of 9/11 in a big way. I believe it needs our support and attention. It’s a magnificent piece of journalism, and the movie of the decade, and a thriller, and it is honest and everything it says is backed up and explained incredibly well.

    Bravo.
    -Gib Sosman