Proof that NSA Spying Is Not Very Focused On Terrorism

Power, Money and Crushing Dissent Are Real Motives

The NSA not only spied on the leaders of Germany, Brazil and Mexico, but  on at least 35 world leaders.

The Guardian reports:

One unnamed US official handed over 200 numbers, including those of the 35 world leaders, none of whom is named. These were immediately “tasked” for monitoring by the NSA.

That’s just one incident we know about.   The NSA also spies on the European Union, the European Parliament,  the G20 summit and other allies.

The NSA asked government agencies to share their Rolodexes, so the NSA would have phone numbers for top foreign political and military leaders.

A confidential government memo admits that the spying didn’t help prevent terrorism:

The memo acknowledges that eavesdropping on the numbers had produced “little reportable intelligence”.

Because the leaders of allies such as Germany, Brazil, Mexico, the EU and G-20 have no ties to Al Qaeda terrorists, the spying was obviously done for other purposes.

The NSA conducts widespread industrial espionage on our allies. That has nothing to do with terrorism, either.

Indeed, there is no evidence that mass surveillance has prevented a single terrorist attack. On the contrary, top counter-terror experts say that mass spying actually hurts U.S. counter-terror efforts (more here and here).

If NSA spying were really focused on terrorism, our allies and companies wouldn’t be fighting back so hard against it.

And even the argument that 9/11 changed everything holds no water.  Spying started before 9/11 … and various excuses have been used to spy on Americans over the years.   Even NSA’s industrial espionage has been going on for many decades. And the NSA was already spying on American Senators more than 40 years ago.

Governments who spy on their own population always do it to crush dissent. (Why do you think that the NSA is doing exactly the same thing which King George did to the American colonists … which led to the Revolutionary War?)

Of course, if even half of what a NSA whistleblower Russel Tice says – that (and see this) – then things are really out of whack.

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  • f33

    Since the NSA has access to all this private information, I would ask, what’s the overwhelming tendency of people? To be good, or to be bad.

    They are in a unique position to answer that question.

    • k

      it seems to me the overall tendency of people is good but because of our government, and the NSAs lack of respect for the constitution and international law people tend to become, what those entities consider to be ‘bad’. It’s a vicious cycle. They create the problem and then take away our freedoms sighting the problems they created as the reason why.

      I’m really hoping those countries the NSA is spying on bands together and threaten the removal of that terrorist organization known NSA, TSA, DHS.

      • Bob Loblaw

        I’m wondering when Putin or some other world leader will address the UN and tell them how we have been arming Al Qaeda in Syria while threatening to go to war with them with absolutely no interest in a peaceful resolution. I’m wondering when they’ll finally get the courage to say that the US is funding the terrorists and needs a “regime change”.

        I don’t want to “liberated” by the UN, but if any of these nations actually bought the terror hype, they would be calling for D.C. to be ‘liberated’ from the terrorists. The fact that no other nation will do this, shows that they, much like the UK and US, don’t care about the people’s security etc. and are just grabbing everything that isn’t nailed down and sending the dogs after us if we try to hold them accountable.

        • drdebdrdeb

          I totally agree.

        • drdebdrdeb

          I totally agree.

      • Bob Loblaw

        I’m wondering when Putin or some other world leader will address the UN and tell them how we have been arming Al Qaeda in Syria while threatening to go to war with them with absolutely no interest in a peaceful resolution. I’m wondering when they’ll finally get the courage to say that the US is funding the terrorists and needs a “regime change”.

        I don’t want to “liberated” by the UN, but if any of these nations actually bought the terror hype, they would be calling for D.C. to be ‘liberated’ from the terrorists. The fact that no other nation will do this, shows that they, much like the UK and US, don’t care about the people’s security etc. and are just grabbing everything that isn’t nailed down and sending the dogs after us if we try to hold them accountable.

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Regarding “NSA is doing exactly the same thing which King George did to the American colonists…”.

    I want to point out that the NSA is a US government institution and King George was the figurehead of an external colonizer…. Let’s compare to the situation Mahatma Gandhi would face if instead of trying to oust a foreign colonizer he was instead trying to oust a corrupt INDIAN regime or perhaps force a discarding of the Caste system.

    Do you believe he would have had any success with non-violent tactics?

    Unlikely.

    The people who plan, authorize, and actualize the policies the NSA programs use are literal traitors to the American ideal of a free society, are an enemy of the people of the US, and need to be, literally, destroyed, not just dunned or exiled.

    • Bob Loblaw

      Very true, but the administration can be considered a figure head of an international conquering force, that has already occupied and carried out a silent coup.

      In that respect they are very much the same with the main difference being that George never pretended to be working for us. He was just a ruler, wheras these are indeed traitors. The solution to the problem is quite different here. We can either try to reboot the republic which wil likely get bloody, or we can try to get these people tried, convicted and lawfully executed for treason which may not be any smoother.

      At this point we’re approching a time where ending this activity is more important than how, costs, risks, etc. If we don’t bring this criminal war on the people to a halt, we’ll be hiding from ARGUS drones and running from swarms of HELLADS drones which are being developed to have 150KW lasers on them. Just imagine what the generation after that will be like.

      prism-break.org

  • http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/ RazerRay

    Regarding “NSA is doing exactly the same thing which King George did to the American colonists…”.

    I want to point out that the NSA is a US government institution and King George was the figurehead of an external colonizer…. Let’s compare to the situation Mahatma Gandhi would face if instead of trying to oust a foreign colonizer he was instead trying to oust a corrupt INDIAN regime or perhaps force a discarding of the Caste system.

    Do you believe he would have had any success with non-violent tactics?

    Unlikely.

    The people who plan, authorize, and actualize the policies the NSA programs use are literal traitors to the American ideal of a free society, are an enemy of the people of the US, and need to be, literally, destroyed, not just dunned or exiled.

  • Mike McClanahan

    NSA website seems to be offline at the moment. Anonymous apparently claiming responsibility.

  • drdebdrdeb

    I was on my iPhone today with a friend. I am hard of hearing and she is not. She heard a female voice say tape it and then she heard a click. I commented to my friend, “Perhaps I had better quit blogging.” We were simply chatting about meeting tomorrow for a trip.
    I am VERY CONCERNED!
    OUR REPUBLIC is GONE!

    • Bob Loblaw

      You gave your freedoms away so what did you expect. What kind of person uses an IPhone and pays to be spied on? Use an android phone with Replicant or something else open source instead of android.

      prism-break.org has tips for securing your data etc.

      • drdebdrdeb

        Excuse me, Bob. The reason I purchased an IPhone was that it is easier to use (I am a new cell user) and it was compatible with my IPad. I thank you for providing the link to prism-break.org..

      • drdebdrdeb

        Excuse me, Bob. The reason I purchased an IPhone was that it is easier to use (I am a new cell user) and it was compatible with my IPad. I thank you for providing the link to prism-break.org..

  • Don Stone

    “Produced little reportable intelligence,” emphasis on “reportable.”

    Classic splitting hairs pseudo legal argument because, with dollar hegemony in jeopardy, it surely produced mountains of actionable intelligence.

  • patriot85

    I believe this level of data collection will forever more make it impossible for any political figure to do what is right for their constituents. Based on the facts that most people have some skeletons in their closets which they would never want exposed for crucifixion by the media, many seemingly have had to compromise some aspect of moral fortitude to get where they are, they keep passing laws which are unconstitutional, and none have stood up to the craziness and greed which is rampant through out our governmental structure. They have taken an elected pubic position and sworn an oath to protect this country, but will never sacrifice their career or portfolio to do what is right. They know as soon as they make any move against the controllers, their deepest darkest secrets will “magically” come to light and they will then be attacked by the media by design. They are a tool developed to confuse people who have turned off their critical thinking abilities. It seems many of us have become parrots of the system as it is operating at this time. I love this country, we as individuals need to accept each other’s differences and work together to bring real awareness to these internal attacks on our way of life

  • Lisa C.Collins

    It seems that #America’s #Government has previously attempted to#spying against countries that have good relations with them through its #embassies. …
    http://www.docexblog.com/2011/12/virtual-us-embassy-for-iran.html

  • Lisa C.Collins

    also i found this page. :All of the evidence found in this timeline can also be found in the Summary of Evidence we submitted to the court in Jewel v. National Security Agency (NSA).https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline

 

 

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