Head of Congressional Intelligence Committee: “You Can’t Have Your Privacy Violated If You Don’t KNOW Your Privacy Is Violated”

Argues Spying Okay As Long As Government Doesn’t Get Caught

The chair of the House Intelligence Committee – Mike Rogers – said yesterday in an NSA spying hearing which he led that there is no right to privacy in America.

Constitutional expert Stephen I. Vladeck – Professor of Law and the Associate Dean for Scholarship at American University Washington College of Law – disagreed.

Here’s the exchange:

Rogers: I would argue the fact that we haven’t had any complaints come forward with any specificity arguing that their privacy has been violated, clearly indicates, in ten years, clearly indicates that something must be doing right. Somebody must be doing something exactly right.

Vladeck: But who would be complaining?

Rogers: Somebody who’s privacy was violated. You can’t have your privacy violated if you don’t know your privacy is violated.

Vladeck: I disagree with that. If a tree falls in the forest, it makes a noise whether you’re there to see it or not.

Rogers: Well that’s a new interesting standard in the law. We’re going to have this conversation… but we’re going to have wine, because that’s going to get a lot more interesting…

What Rogers is really saying is that the government has the right to spy on everyone so long as it doesn’t get caught doing so.

How’s that different from arguing that it’s okay for a thief to takes $100 from your bank account as long as you don’t notice that the money is missing? Or that it’s okay to rape a woman while she’s passed out so long as she doesn’t realize what happened?

That’s beyond ridiculous.

It flies in the face of more than 200 years of American law. In fact, experts say that the NSA spying program is wildly illegal, and is exactly the kind of thing which King George imposed on the American colonists … which led to the Revolutionary War.

Hat tip: Tech Dirt.

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  • colinjames71

    The rape thing was the exact first thing that came to mind. Between this and Alexander’s incoherent bath/shower ramble, and every other thing, I have to seriously question the IQs of the people in govt theses days. Dumb AND psychopathic, not a winning combination.

  • colinjames71

    The rape thing was the exact first thing that came to mind. Between this and Alexander’s incoherent bath/shower ramble, and every other thing, I have to seriously question the IQs of the people in govt theses days. Dumb AND psychopathic, not a winning combination.

    • jo6pac

      That’s for sure and the problem is the cycle-0-paths are everywhere in govt. and corp.

      • colinjames71

        Is that like “cycle” in-and-out the revolving door?

    • http://grero.com/ Grero.com

      They couldn’t try to manipulate others if they didn’t have high IQs. I would question the IQs of people falling for this complete nonsense though.

      • colinjames71

        No you’re right that was more of a spontaneous and slightly sarcastic rant than some kind of analysis. Of course there are many smart individuals in govt/military, but they say some dumb sh*t sometimes, and look what all those collectively high IQs have done to this country. Anyways I’m not tryin to start a debate over it. There’s dumbasses too. The psycopathy, on the other hand, is pervasive and readily apparent, and actually it’s the high IQ psyychopaths that constitute the biggest threat now that I think about it.

  • http://bigdanblogger.blogspot.com/ Big Dan

    This is exactly why our country stinks: we have “officials” who say it’s OK to do something you’re not supposed to, as long as you don’t get caught. These are are LEADERS, OFFICIALS, our EXAMPLES of how we should act: JUST DON’T GET CAUGHT. OK, will do!!!

  • MAL3313

    So I could hide a camera in a women’s dressing room and it’s OK as long as they don’t find out. Rogers has the IQ of a rock.

  • MAL3313

    So I could hide a camera in a women’s dressing room and it’s OK as long as they don’t find out. Rogers has the IQ of a rock.

  • http://www.FailGov.org/ FailGov.org

    There has GOT to be a way to instantly remove a politician from office when they show such complete ignorance. But there’s not. And this one instance (even though there are uncountable other instances) shows that our government is INCAPABLE of actually fulfilling its duty to the citizens.

    The government has already failed us and there’s no way to ask nicely to have it back.

  • wallery

    How is it these people get their positions?
    Surely, they must have an intelligence of that beyond a box of rocks.?
    This man makes me feel like an Einstein- I could replace him in a second- in fact, he should move over for Homer Simpson .

  • NJK

    This guy is a moron and a traitor. HE’S LET THIS HAPPEN.
    Rogers is alright with spying on Americans while he let a Muslim Brotherhood member usurp the White House and other departments throughout the govt. HE AND EVERYONE ELSE ARE IN CYA MODE.

    YOU LET SOLDIERS AND THE NAVY SEALS DIE UNDER A FAKE PRESIDENT! TOO BUSY SPYING ON AMERICANS, RIGHT, CREEP?
    DHS Muslim Adviser: “United States of America Is An Islamic Country”…
    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/31/dhs-muslim-adviser-united-states-of-america-is-an-islamic-country/

    Egyptian media says Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood member
    http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/egypt/egyptian-media-says-obama-muslim-brotherhood-member

    Mr. Rogers, it’s going to come out eventually. YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THE FAMILIES OF THE WAR DEAD, WHY YOU AND OTHERS ALLOWED THIS STEALTH JIHADIST IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND OTHERS IN DHS.

  • Jasonn

    No problem, Mike. I’ll be over to toss your house sometime next week to see if there’s anything there that I think you shouldn’t have because after all you have no right to privacy… EITHER.

  • gozounlimited

    To whom do I complain Mr. Rogers? You stepped all over my privacy when you tapped my land-line and sent out the FBI looking for something smarmy after homeland insecurity left a family member to die in the Pacific Ocean of hypothermia and drowning. How is it that your malfeasance instigated treating me and my family like criminals…..? You can consider this my official public COMPLAINT!

  • Ancient_Pollyanna

    That sounds like the entire premise of “The Ed Show.”

 

 

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