Countries Which Want to Rein In NSA Spying Collectively Have Bigger Economies than the U.S. and Its Spy Buddies

21 Nations Line Up Behind UN Effort To Stop NSA

Foreign Policy reports that 21 nations have joined the push for the adoption of a United Nations General Resolution protecting internet privacy against NSA spying.

They include the following nations:  Argentina, Austria, Brazil, Bolivia, Ecuador, France, Germany, Guyana, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Liechtenstein, Mexico, Norway, Paraguay, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, and Uruguay.

Those names don’t mean too much in a vacuum … so let’s look at the size of their economies (using International Monetary Fund figures for 2012):

COUNTRYRANK (WORLD’S BIGGEST ECONOMIES)GDP ($USD IN MILLIONS)
Germany4th3,429,519
France5th2,613,936
Brazil7th2,253,090
India10th1,841,717
Mexico14th1,177,398
Indonesia16th878,536
Switzerland20th631,183
Sweden22nd523,804
Norway23rd499,633
Argentina26th475,211
Austria28th394,868
South Africa29th384,315
Venezuela31st381,286
Hungary58th125,660
Ecuador63rd84,040
Cuba70th60,806
Uruguay77th49,920
Bolivia93rd27,232
Paraguay95th26,073
Liechtenstein149th5,113
Guyana157th2,828

TOTAL: $15,866,168 (remember: all figures in this post are in millions.)

In comparison, the U.S. – the world’s largest economy – has a GDP of $16,244,575 … larger than the 21 countries.

But we can’t look at this fight in a vacuum … the rest of the “Five Eyes” of allied spies – Canada, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand – are backing the U.S.  As is Israel (and see this).

So let’s add them to the U.S. side of the ledger:

COUNTRYRANKGDP
U.S.1st16,244,575
United Kingdom6th2,476,665
Canada11th1,821,445
Australia12th1,541,700
Israel39th257,480
New Zealand55th169,831

TOTAL: $22,511,696

But China and Russia hate NSA spying so much that they have joined the  new BRICS consortium – along with India, Brazil and South Africa – which is building its own Internet infrastructure to avoid NSA spying.

So let’s add them to the total opposing NSA spying:

COUNTRYRANKGDP
21 Countries15,866,168
China2nd8,221,015
Russia8th2,029,813

TOTAL: $26,116,996

The bottom line is that there is currently more money aligned against U.S. spying than for it.

Notes:    Japan – the world’s 3rd largest economy – has been a close ally of the U.S. for some time.   If we count Japan’s GDP onto the U.S. side, it would swing the economic balance in favor of the U.S.  However, Japan refused the NSA’s request to tap fiber-optic cables in 2011.

Technical note: For the couple of nations for which IMF figures were not available, we used the CIA Factbook.

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  • If I don’t want that somebody steals my stuff, do I have to be richer than him to be right?

    • wunsacon

      In a fairer world, no. In our world, generally, he who has the gold makes the rules.

      (I agree w/ your point and suspect GW does too.)

  • gozounlimited

    Stop Watching Us: The Video….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmiw_rrNxk

    Washington Whispers
    Actor John Cusack Says ‘Democracy Itself Is Dead’ With NSA Surveillance

    By Steven Nelson
    October 23, 2013 RSS Feed Print

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    Actor John Cusack, left, disagrees with National Security Agency Director Keith Alexander, who argues the NSA doesn’t snoop on ordinary Americans.

    Actor John Cusack, left, disagrees with National Security Agency Director Keith Alexander, who argues the NSA doesn’t snoop on ordinary Americans.

    Actor John Cusack appears in a video released Wednesday by a coalition of anti-surveillance groups, saying, “in the surveillance state, democracy itself is dead.”

    Cusack, who recently portrayed Richard Nixon in the film “The Butler,” was joined in the video by documentary filmmaker Oliver Stone, Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsberg and others to denounce dragnet phone and Internet surveillance by the National Security Agency.

    Cusack warns that the NSA programs, first exposed in June by whistle-blower Edward Snowden, affect “average citizens not suspected of a crime.”

    Drawing a parallel to the Nixon administration’s covert surveillance of political enemies, the actor says, “it was wrong then and it’s wrong now. … The tools for surveillance have never been more powerful and the threat to our civil liberties has never been greater.”

    [RELATED: NSA Opponents Will Picket Congress on Patriot Act’s Birthday]

    The video was produced by the Electronic Frontier Foundation and promoted by the Stop Watching Us coalition, which is hosting what it hopes will be the largest anti-surveillance demonstration in U.S. history on Saturday near Congress. Members of the coalition include the American Civil Liberties Union, the Mozilla Foundation, the Green Party, the Libertarian Party, social news website Reddit, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Demand Progress and Students for Liberty.

  • gozounlimited

    Stop Watching Us: The Video….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmiw_rrNxk

    Washington Whispers
    Actor John Cusack Says ‘Democracy Itself Is Dead’ With NSA Surveillance

    By Steven Nelson
    October 23, 2013 RSS Feed Print

    Comment (8)
    inShare2

    Actor John Cusack, left, disagrees with National Security Agency Director Keith Alexander, who argues the NSA doesn’t snoop on ordinary Americans.

    Actor John Cusack, left, disagrees with National Security Agency Director Keith Alexander, who argues the NSA doesn’t snoop on ordinary Americans.

    Actor John Cusack appears in a video released Wednesday by a coalition of anti-surveillance groups, saying, “in the surveillance state, democracy itself is dead.”

    Cusack, who recently portrayed Richard Nixon in the film “The Butler,” was joined in the video by documentary filmmaker Oliver Stone, Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsberg and others to denounce dragnet phone and Internet surveillance by the National Security Agency.

    Cusack warns that the NSA programs, first exposed in June by whistle-blower Edward Snowden, affect “average citizens not suspected of a crime.”

    Drawing a parallel to the Nixon administration’s covert surveillance of political enemies, the actor says, “it was wrong then and it’s wrong now. … The tools for surveillance have never been more powerful and the threat to our civil liberties has never been greater.”

    [RELATED: NSA Opponents Will Picket Congress on Patriot Act’s Birthday]

    The video was produced by the Electronic Frontier Foundation and promoted by the Stop Watching Us coalition, which is hosting what it hopes will be the largest anti-surveillance demonstration in U.S. history on Saturday near Congress. Members of the coalition include the American Civil Liberties Union, the Mozilla Foundation, the Green Party, the Libertarian Party, social news website Reddit, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Demand Progress and Students for Liberty.