Top Spying Experts Explain Why You Should Oppose Spying … Even Though You’ve Done Nothing Wrong

Surveillance Can be Used to Frame You If Someone In Government Happens to Take a Dislike to You … Last Chance to Stop “Turnkey Tyranny”

Top NSA whistleblower William Binney – the former head of the National Security Agency’s global digital data gathering program – has repeatedly explained that just because you “haven’t done anything wrong” doesn’t mean you can’t be severely harmed by spying:

The problem is, if they think they’re not doing anything that’s wrong, they don’t get to define that. The central government does.

Binney explains that the government is storing everything, and creating a searchable database … to be used whenever it wants, for any purpose it wants (even just going after someone it doesn’t like).

And he notes that the government will go after anyone who is on its enemies list:

If you ever get on their enemies list, like Petraeus did, then you can be drawn into that surveillance.

Binney recently held his thumb and forefinger close together, and said:

We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state

Similarly, in response to the question, “why should people care about surveillance?”, the whistleblower source of the Guardian’s disclosures on phone and Internet spying – Edward Snowden – said:

Because even if you’re not doing anything wrong you’re being watched and recorded. And the storage capability of these systems increases every year consistently by orders of magnitude … to where it’s getting to the point where you don’t have to have done anything wrong. You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody – even by a wrong call. And then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you’ve ever made, every friend you’ve ever discussed something with. And attack you on that basis to sort to derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer.

[If people don’t oppose the surveillance state now] it will be turnkey tyranny.

In 1975, Senator Frank Church said about the NSA:

I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.

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  • gozounlimited

    The only difference between the secretive PRISM project and CISPA is that under CISPA personal data will be given to the civilian Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon by communications companies instead of the NSA. Like that matters.

    CISPA Will Legalize PRISM Spy Program (Activist Post)…… read here: http://www.activistpost.com/2013/06/cispa-will-legalize-prism-spy-program.html

  • linda barnett

    What if snowden is a patsy, and this whole thing is just an attempt to get control
    Over the nsa by the dhs/fbi/cia? Something is not right about the snowden thing.
    He has not released any info that really helps the american people, it just
    Discredits the nsa. I see him as heroic, don’t get that wrong, but beginning
    To think there is something more going on.

    • Litchfield

      Very interesting point. The Petraeus affair certainly had some people thinking it was part of an interagency struggle—someone was out to get Petraeus, or the CIA. It certainly looks as though the NSA has a trump card with its massive centers, including in Bluffdale. Perhaps the NSA poses a threat to the CIA and the CIA has a dog in the race of shining a spotlight on the NSA and thereby reducing their power and leverage. Is Obama caught between the two? Not sure where his loyalties, or his interests, lie? Ont thing is for sure: Obama is a shady and very glib (though his “articulateness” is starting to wear thin) character and he could well be a long-term plant. Recall how Willi Brandt was brought down.

  • Finnnnn

    Not that NSA has ever hired any rouge employees, but I am interested in what a potential rouge employee could do with the information gathered. Could the metadata alone allow a statistician to perform the equivalent of insider trading? Could someone get embarrassing information illegally that would lead them to further enquiries, slightly altering the target’s position on a selected topic? It could be nice to know ahead of time which company was going to win a bid on a major construction project. I’m thinking there are a large number of things that could be done with the information depending on the goals of the rouge employee. I know they are not interested in my data, but when one person gets rich on the stock market, someone else has to lose.

  • GodsGurl

    So what do you do if they attack you? Who do you turn to?

    • Lou Reed

      Who do you mean, the NSA? They (and many other government agencies) ALREADY ARE targeting people! Don’t believe me? Search the Internet for ‘Targeted Individuals’ and ‘Organized Stalking/Gangstalking.’ You’ll find countless stories of what it’s like to be targeted by what many believe are a continuation of the supposedly ‘defunct’ COINTELPRO and MKULTRA programs run by the FBI and CIA.

      I know, because I’m one of tens of thousands of Americans whom they’ve targeted. I have been under incredibly invasive surveillance for NO reason and I’ve committed NO crime. I’ve had my house repeatedly burgled, I’ve been drugged/poisoned, harassed, threatened, and far worse. They framed me for several felonies after having a stranger attack me with an axe. THIS is what’s going on “The Land of the Free!”

      I wouldn’t have believed it in a million years if it hadn’t happened to me, personally. I used to believe the government was so inept that they couldn’t even tie their collective shoe laces… It’s truly sad, but we should have seen it coming. I laugh a sad laugh every time someone mentions “the external threat of terrorism.” The real terror is coming from within, and it’s being carried out by Americans. If they do these kinds of things to innocent Americans, I don’t want to imagine what they do to foreign nationals.

      You asked who a person could turn to for help if they were to find themselves targeted? It’s been my (and many others) experience that there is NO ONE who can help! I’ve filed FOIA requests, I’ve contacted the ACLU, attorneys, and anyone else I could think of. All to no avail. We targets quickly realized that any attempts to get help, only lead to being labeled “mentally unsound,” creating even more problems than we already have. These programs were certainly developed with this in mind. I can only hope America wakes up before it’s too late!

      • R. InOahu

        I can attest that everything “Lou Reed” said in his post is indeed happening. I have also been targeted. I am no criminal. I am not a terrorist. I am a single mom. I am not perfect but I have done nothing to deserve the invasive surveillance and criminal monitoring of my computer, emails, phones, vehicles, sabotaged relationships, smear campaigns, anonymous letters and phone calls to friends and family, gag orders on friends and family etc….Look up Jane Clift (blacklisting) and modern COINTELPRO. It’s Stasi on steroids using crisis actors and surveillance role players (hired by Masy Group, Lockheed Martin and many others) who also participate in street theater stalking. See 3 in hawaii blogspot . Mahalo to all targeted individuals for speaking out and not being silenced.

        • Lou Reed

          Thanks for confirming what we targets know all too well. I hope things improve for you soon. Speaking out is absolutely the right thing to do! I’ll check out your blog, too.

  • Old Wolf

    If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him. — Richelieu

    • elle

      “If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him. — Richelieu” – And Richelieu’s true sentiment is now used as a seeming guideline for a slander and misinfo system currently used by informants that have infected America.

      Message to Informants / Monitors / Role Players (or whatever else you euphemistically call yourselves) : JUST SAY NO and realize that you are being used as “useful idiots” and most likely the info you have on your target is wholly slander, twisted intel, lies and mis-information and that you are aiding and abetting the destruction of innocent, sane people’s lives along with breaking numerous laws to include Federal Statute 18 USC 241 .

      • Old Wolf

        18 usc 242 is also heavily violated by official sources, for which said officials are civilly as well as criminally liable. Title 42, section 1983 dissolves civil immunity for the executive branch, title 28, section 1343 does the same for any judge, legislator, or executive who had the power to prevent the same act. Any prosecutor who fails to act is criminally liable under title 18, section 3 and 4.
        And anyone who ordered or instructed it be done is a principal to the felony act, and fully criminally liable under title 18, section 2.
        The civil rights laws history make it plain that invasions of such type against rights are fully actionable, and cannot rely upon the office to protect the individual so acting from liability, be it criminal or civil, as the act could not be lawfully done within the office.

        • elle

          Old Wolf, Very Helpful info. Thank you.

          Re:”18 usc 242 is also heavily violated by official sources, for which said officials are civilly as well as criminally liable. Title 42, section 1983 dissolves civil immunity for the executive branch, title 28, section 1343 does the same for any judge, legislator, or executive who had the power to prevent the same act. Any prosecutor who fails to act is criminally liable under title 18, section 3 and 4.And anyone who ordered or instructed it be done is a principal to the felony act, and fully criminally liable under title 18, section 2.
          The civil rights laws history make it plain that invasions of such type against rights are fully actionable, and cannot rely upon the office to protect the individual so acting from liability, be it criminal or civil, as the act could not be lawfully done within the office.” end quote

          • Old Wolf

            For further reading, I highly recommend Monroe v. Pape, and McDonald v. Chicago (2010). The law is quite clear that all rights, privileges, and immunities are fully immune to state actions, but the remainder from the Democrat party’s control and implementation of the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws have left a wake of destruction in the US, and may be bringing the union once again to the brink of destruction.
            Lot of old history there, from the debates on the floor leading to the 14th and Dred Scott v. Sandford being intended to be overturned by that amendment to the constitution, as well as by the civil rights acts of 1866 and 1871. That’s what those earlier codes were, the remnants of that act.
            But if it’s a felony to do something, does it help if the very people who must enforce the law are most guilty, and have the greatest vested interest in maintaining the power to commit crimes in office?

  • elle

    Another reason to oppose surveillance is that it’s CORRUPT. Google COINTELPRO Martin Luther King Jr. FBI Suicide Letter via Oil Empire…it’s an unclassified redacted copy of the letter the FBI sent to King to try and compel him to suicide….they use the same tactics today in their 4D’s as seen on the NSA training slides (Disrupt Deny Discredit Deceive). They will use your fears and weaknesses against you. If you love animals they will start a rumor mill that you abuse animals…if you are a parent they will claim you neglect your kids…if you’re married they’ll send a honey trap to ruin your marriage….they will financially sabotage you (just like it says to do on their training slides). If “they” target you they will scrutinize ever little thing you do inorder to twist and manipulate info about you in your database profile (allegedly there are over 8 million innocent civilians in the Main Core database hit list). SOME people in the Sheriff’s Dept are also involved with stealing court docs and have undermined our court system. They will make false claims to get CPS, HHS, DHS and others involved to include corrupt community watch programs. Don’t take my word for it…simply research and you’ll discover what I am saying is true.

 

 

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