Top Counter-Terrorism Czar: Revealing NSA Spying Program DOESN’T Harm National Security

Terrorists Already Knew about the Programs … The Only People Who Were Kept In the Dark Were the American People

We noted yesterday that government officials aren’t trying to keep the spying programs secret to protect national security, but only to protect their own reputations.

We quoted the former head of the National Security Agency’s global digital data gathering program, who said:

The terrorists have already known that we’ve been doing this for years, so there’s no surprise there. They’re not going to change the way they operate just because it comes out in the U.S. press. I mean, the point is, they already knew it, and they were operating the way they would operate anyway. So, the point is that they’re—we’re not—the government here is not trying to protect it from the terrorists; it’s trying to protect it, that knowledge of that program, from the citizens of the United States.

This was just confirmed by the top counter-terrorism czar under Presidents Clinton and Bush – Richard Clarke – who writes:

The argument that this sweeping search must be kept secret from the terrorists is laughable. Terrorists already assume this sort of thing is being done. Only law-abiding American citizens were blissfully ignorant of what their government was doing.

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  • Tonto

    Let me now quote from the Federalist Papers, James Madison.

    “As there is a certain degree of depravity in mankind which requires a certain degree of circumspection and distrust, so there are other qualities in human nature which justify a certain portion of esteem and confidence.”

    The former sentiment of distrust is generally always applicable to bureaucracies. And the latter sentiment of esteem and confidence, expressed by Madison, is only confidently applied to a few rare individuals. That is human nature.

    Generally, no bureaucracy should be allowed to spy on us, even if we need it. For in so doing, we will corrupt the few rare individuals that really do deserve our respect, while we also will unleash that which is the source of our well-founded mistrust of bureaucracies.

    I have often in my lifetime heard individuals say government should be put under a 24/7 watch and surveillance. Isn’t it ironic how we instead have been put on the same watch and surveillance secretly, without anyone in government ever submitting to undergo what seems so obviously necessary to so many.

    • amerikagulag

      Yes, it’s odd that the government wants a copy of every phone call I’ve made since before Israel did 911, but I can’t get a legitimate copy of Obama’s birth certificate! Something’s just not right.

  • Jason

    Find out what your government is really up to… scary..

    http://tinyurl.com/q5c4qym

  • Jason

    Find out what your government is really up to… scary..

    http://tinyurl.com/q5c4qym

  • amerikagulag

    Imagine that…..a TERRORISM CZAR! Must be the guy in the US in charge of all FALSE FLAG operations ordered by Israel. A czar? When did we turn into a Slavic monarchy?

  • JoanieBaloney

    My concern is how many agents we had in the field that were spying for America may have been killed or had to pull out because of the release of this information? I really would like this question addressed before I can make a determination of whether what Snowden did was for the good of the US citizens or not.

    • lxanth5

      Killed or pulled out? Of where? He was talking about cell phones and e-mails.

      • JoanieBaloney

        You nor I have any idea of what he had in those suitcases of data. He hasn’t released it all. Do you believe that while he was asleep in China and Russia that those suitcases of information weren’t copied. You can’t really be that naive.

        • Mass Independent

          You obviously haven’t been following the situation, but instead just being spoon fed propaganda, and believing it all. Ignorant. “Baloney” is right.

          • JoanieBaloney

            Well, why don’t you enlighten me please with details of what I am ignorant about. No name-calling but a comment with substance that answers my concerns.

          • Mass Independent

            A huge task of unending duration. Why don’t you educate yourself. There is plenty of detailed information on the internet; Google it. Don’t rely on others, find it for yourself.

          • JoanieBaloney

            Love it. You have not one sentence to offer. Go away.

  • futurelife

    time to impeach this prez for good and stop all payments to him and his family that tax payers pay each year to all of them for life. It is time to clean up DC, clean up the Senate and get rid of Reid and Palosi and clean up our Congress and put in non-lawyers and make sure they show their background from “birth” with proof to term limits on all and NO, again, NO benefits for life for any of them. It is a job, part time from what I see and they shouldn’t be getting payments from the hard working men and women who work just to keep these lazy bums set up for life.

  • Kenneth Brooks

    Hi

  • offgridsid

    THEY: Obama and his people, are the scourge of the Earth. They BELIEVE that the Constitution and The Bill of Rights are merely “Quaint Documents” that no longer apply to the America THEY want to
    create. THEY no longer even refer to it as “America” … THEY call it the “Homeland” and their enforcers are the Department of “Homeland” Security … As if we are JUST another nation like Germany with it’s “Fatherland” or Russia with it’s “Motherland”.

    These people have a Lethal agenda that goes far deeper than DHS and it is undeniable that the foundation for what Obama is now doing WAS in fact laid in the four years prior to his so-called election. Hard to imagine, but could it be that the people who controlled Bush now THINK they
    control Obama? … I think THEY have another think coming.

    Something wicked is coming on the wind and it feels a lot like War. In what is Not the most egregious instance, Obama has just signed a veritable battery of proclamations from the Oval Office, designed to circumvent the recent congressional defeat of his Gun Control agenda. You Need To Read about it here:

    http://redflagnews.com/headlines/tyranny-by-executive-order-by-constitutional-attorney-michael-connelly-jd

    It is now widely understood that the Gov has, indeed, been placing billion dollar orders with every North American ammunition manufacturer and blocking all foreign ammunition imports in a concerted effort to actually cut off the ammunition supply to all American gun owners… No Conspiracy Theory here…It’s a cut-your-nards-off Fact. We are witnessing the final stages of an attempted coup.

    Not so widely reported is the collateral fact that “That Guy” is also ordering up All the spare parts for virtually every weapon capable of being used effectively on the battlefield.

    You can ORDER anything you want, but just try to Actually GET anything in the way of critical spare parts for any weapon you own and you will find that resistance is futile. They aren’t “just” watching us but are preparing for War and they are attempting to disarm the intended enemy … YOU.

    This isn’t the kind of thing that one attempts unless there is a Damned good reason for it, if only because, even with more money than God, that kind of effort can’t really be sustained for much more
    than a year… less than that if they get caught at it… Hmmmm. On this, the IRS, DOJ, FBI, EPA and other things, they are in the process of “getting caught”.

    IT’S SOMETHING THEY INTEND TO DO NOW (they have already gutted the Constitution with the
    Patriot Act and the NDAA) … something long ago planned (they’ve already taken the schools) … and something that is Now Imminent. SOMETHING, in repayment for which, they expect us to rise up as one and slay them. Well, If it quacks like a duck …

    The truth is that we have Tyranny in the White House, Fascist subversives in congress, Traitors and pathological sycophants in DHS, IRS, EPA and all of the other alphabet agencies.

    The camps, whether you choose to see them or not, are already in place, the Fusion Centers feed them intelligence about YOU. Blackwater’s shadow Op’s are alive and well and ON OUR STREETS … You can actually SEE them in the Boston Bombing footage and you really MUST learn to believe your own eyes.

    THEY are not different in any respect than the Gestapo as it existed in 1933. The only substantive difference is that this time not only the Jews, but WE also are the targets.

    As the “Progressive” mouthpiece in the White House denigrates, rapes and pillages our Nation, THEY are actively preparing for War and, what we are witnessing in all of the so-called scandals are actually a series of “trial balloons” intended to define what they can and cannot get away with outside the envelope of Covert Operations.

    These are not stupid people and they would like to set precedents that cede to them by fiat, the absolute power to circumvent the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as and when they see fit.

    Like poking a Tiger with a stick, they are attempting to provoke the so-called “Tea Party” into armed revolt. This is their immediate intent and now, unfortunately they will not be denied … It’s gone much too far and Truth would have it that Civil War is now inevitable.

    Just about every one of us over 50 is a veteran and grew up in America more or less “as it was intended to be”.

    “WE” … This select group of OLD PEOPLE, together with their immediate families, CONSTITUTES THE ENTIRE TEA PARTY … which has no other natural members.

    The Tea Party has no structure and no one speaks for it. It is an irresistible, natural force for good, (the remnant of what we once were) an armed force that will only appear when the need is great.

    “WE” … old beyond years, scarred from being shot, stabbed, burnt and blown up in service to the finest nation ever to grace the face of the Earth, still constitute the greatest armed force in opposition to tyranny that has ever existed. Obama and those who control him KNOW this to be true … and it terrifies them.

    “WE” … EACH KNOW what it is to actually “BE AN AMERICAN”… “Thrifty, Brave, Clean, Reverend” … you know; “Truth, Justice and the American Way”… more compassionate and principled than anyone else on the planet.

    “WE” … Remember the Truth of it because WE LIVE IN IT and IT LIVES IN US.

    Unfortunately, that cannot be said for younger people, nor for our current crop of servile politicians, NOT ONE OF WHOM EVER lived in an America free of socialism and government sedition.

    Even if, by some miracle, we manage to impeach the creature in the White House, we will still need to hunt down and deal with the other creatures in high places and foreign countries who structured and set the patriot act and the NDAA in place, along with all of those who prepared HIS path and shoe-horned his ass into the White House.

    Only through public trials and the subsequent imposition of unthinkable consequences can we assure that this THING never, ever happens again.

    Now that the scourge is within and upon us, you can be sure that when they come, AND THEY WILL COME, they will attempt to remove us first. On a brighter note; Once again, the government is guilty of gross over-spending … THEY have ordered and taken delivery of 4 Million coffins. More than a million of them won’t even be used … since there are only 2.7 Million of THEM.

    WE HAVE EACH SWORN AN OATH to protect and defend both the Nation and the Constitution from ALL enemies foreign and domestic and we are the only ones with the knowledge, training and experience to do so.

    Since 1776, the price for our nation’s welfare has been paid in blood and death and anguish and every single man fallen in war expects us to honor that oath … whatever the cost.

    War, although necessary at times, is a truly terrible endeavor and so, although we will not start it, we will, as the man said, “in our righteous might”, sure as Hell finish it.

  • Henley-putnam.edu

    There is no guarantee when the terrorist attacks will be coming. No early warning and all will be happen in uncertainty. Until now, the government has been anticipating it by tighting safety especially in the airports. But, along with it, the terrorists are clever and using more sophisticated technologies that unable to be detected. It’s completely a huge threat where we will die anytime.

 

 

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