Why Liberals Should be Outraged that the IRS Targeted Conservatives

IRS Targeted those Educating Americans “on the Constitution and Bill of Rights”, or “Government Spending, Government Debt or Taxes” or Anyone Working to “Make America a Better Place To Live”

The IRS started targeting Tea Party members, “Patriots” and similar conservatives starting in 2010.

But the IRS’ harassment of conservatives expanded way beyond those groups.

As United Press International reports:

U.S. Internal Revenue Service inquiry of conservative groups included those lobbying to “make America a better place to live,” new details emerging about the IRS investigation indicated. That lever goes beyond what the IRS admitted Friday, which was that it targeted groups with “Tea Party” or “patriot” in their names, several media outlets reported Monday, based on draft findings from disclosures to congressional investigators by the Treasury Department’s inspector general for tax administration.

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At various points over the past two years, the Cincinnati IRS office, which is in charge of evaluating applications for tax-exempt status, focused on groups making statements that “criticize how the country is being run” and those involved in educating Americans “on the Constitution and Bill of Rights,” the draft report cited by The Washington Post indicated.

By June 2011 some IRS specialists were probing applications of groups focusing on “government spending, government debt or taxes [and] education of the public by advocacy/lobbying to ‘make America a better place to live,‘” the report cited by the Journal indicated.

The inspector general’s investigation also found the head of the IRS tax-exempt-organizations division knew as early as June 2011 conservative groups were being inappropriately targeted — several months before Douglas Shulman, IRS commissioner at the time, denied to a congressional committee the agency was targeting conservative groups, the newspapers said

Liberals should not assume that this is the “other guy’s” fight.

The targeting of conservatives under a Democratic administration could switch to a targeting of liberals under a subsequent Republican administration.

Congressman Mike Rogers is correct when he says:

I don’t care if you’re a conservative, a liberal, a Democrat or a Republican, this should send a chill up your spine.

Remember, governments always target the “out” group first, and – if we don’t protest –  spread the abuse to include everyone.

It is ironic – and downright Orwellian – that the IRS targeted people trying to educate Americans on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Unfortunately, this is not entirely surprising, given that the Bill of Rights have been fatally wounded by the Bush and Obama administrations, and that liking the Founding Fathers or being  “reverent of individual liberty”  could get one branded as a potential terrorist.

And the IRS is acting like Big Brother … spying on our shopping records, travel, social interactions, health records and files from other government investigators. The IRS targeting those who try to educate people about taxes is analogous to the Federal Reserve using web-based counter-espionage to attack critics of Fed policies.

Welcome to modern America …

Postscript: Those who assume that the Tea Party is made up of a bunch of crazies may be interested in learning that – despite the divide-and-conquer tricks that the mainstream media peddles – the Occupy movement and the Tea Party were originally protesting the exact same things: the malignant, symbiotic relationship between big government and big corporations, and the destruction to our economy  caused by the unchecked power of the Federal Reserve.

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  • Monkey’s Uncle

    Sorry the Tea Party is the vanguard of fascism today. To see Obama sic his attack dogs on them is joy and to see Obama exposed for going after the minions of the Cock Bros is like watching a fight to the death between monsters. The “Grass Roots” of the Tea Party were indeed people PO’d about the bail out but they quickly pivoted into being the spearhead of the effort to destroy the New Deal, despite many TeaBagging idiots being retirees and ex-military with plump government benefits and checks going to them every month. They can get screwed in Hell along with their paymasters.

    • moreover504

      Crackhead.

    • David Baker

      Monkey’s Mother, Fascism is what liberals are doing now. We didn’t want Obamacare, Gay Marriage, Gun Control, Drones over our heads OR Hillary. Liberal ‘Fascists’ crammed all of that tripe down our throats.

      • marxmarv

        Remember, it was the liberals, not the socialists. Liberals and conservatives agree quite closely on the value of an authoritarian government. The only difference is in to what degree and depth others should be deputized with absolute power (family abuse, labor standards, environment).

        But, Americans will thoroughly believe some upper-class twit like the Kochs (take your pick) over their own eyes and ears. Therefore, there is apparently no alternative but to ensure that no human need can be satisfied without some upper-middle-class twit taking a cut.

        • David Baker

          Liberals ARE Socialists. Their entire program of expanding our government to ‘protect’ their precious minorities, create “Safety Nets” (While simultaneously creating voting blocks of government dependents..) increase taxation, fees, fines, foibles (You don’t REALLY believe liberals were opposed to casinos and lotteries, do you?) and unfunded liabilities have combined to mimic pre-Gorbachev Russia. We’re flat broke! We’re at each other’s throats claiming some ‘special’, officially-sanctioned status based upon our race/gender/sexual preferences–even our citizenship status! Our nation is rotting from the disease of liberal expansion into every facet of our economy, society, media, courts and government. Read this:
          Socialism, Communism et al are to tyrants as candy is to a child molester. The concepts induce gullible, ignorant and vulnerable populations to cede their liberty, economy, self-sufficiency, religious freedoms and traditions to a perceived form of beneficent government. Government is NOT beneficent!

          • marxmarv

            I’m not going to respond to you until you have read Federalist #10. I have no interest in engaging in debate with a completely self-unaware talking point dispenser, but if it makes you feel any better I’d declare both parties terrorist organizations were I in a position to do so.

    • travis690

      Destruction of the New Deal would have been the good outcome. Unfortunately for the future of the nation, it didn’t work out that way.

    • David Baker

      Monkey’s Mother, you might also characterize the Tea Party as the Warmongering Arm of liberals. It’s funny, but liberals seem to be in the majority when our foreign aggressions take place. And yet, they claim to be opposed to such aggression. Bush had a liberal democratic majority in Congress to deal with during his campaign to invade Iraq. Somehow, he was mysteriously granted approbation to deploy our troops for that purpose, despite the clear Constitutional mandate that Congress Declares War (Watch FDR’s post Pearl Harbor speech, where he asks Congress to do just that.)

      The Tea Party has not prevented one abortion. They have not halted the effort to protect and grant gays ‘Special Rights’ to be married. They have not stopped the flood of illegal aliens over our borders, or quota hiring, huge budget deficits, school lunch confiscations, etc. What they HAVE done is give our government the green light to advance a doctrine known as “PNAC”.

  • Guest

    “The targeting of conservatives under a Democratic administration could switch to a targeting of liberals under a subsequent Republican administration.”

    I strenuously agree that: “I don’t care if you’re a conservative, a liberal, a Democrat or a Republican, this should send a chill up your spine. Remember, governments always target the “out” group first, and – if we don’t protest – spread the abuse to include everyone.”

    And yet, without a doubt, this has already happened to “liberals” and “Democrats” under Republican administrations, usually under the auspices of the FBI and/or some other 3-letter intel agencies using the “cover” of the IRS to harass vocal-opposition-to-current-power targets.

    I was one of them during the Bush II “you are either with us, or with the terrorists” Administration. I protested the Iraq War, and am pro-choice/LGBTQ/pro-Palestinian rights. I am a very typical “liberal,” who just happens to have a BA in economics, and is vehemently verbally opposed to neoliberalism/globalism/neocolonialism/shock doctrine/fascism.

    And yet, after the invasion of Iraq, the IRS “targeted” me, specifically with regards to my “lack of marital status” and the IRS’ concern about “questionable income/expenses” related to the facts thereof. Remember, I’m one those uppity “inherently inferior females” that the Bush II Religious Right types likes to denigrate for having the temerity to think she should be anything more than a walking uterus/cleaning lady/cook/trophy asset on a man’s balance sheet. And during the Bush II Administration, those “with us or against us” pitbulls were unleashed onto my doorstep simply for shock and awe intimidation value and because they could, pure and simple.

    It was precisely during the Bush II “third reich” reign after 9/11 that most of the country was in abject fear of being considered “unpatriotic” because they knew that they too could and would be targeted any which way TPTB wanted. (Remember what happened to Michael Moore after giving his Academy Award speech: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/13/michael-moore-death-threats-today_n_960333.html)

    So at least now you can complain and write about it without getting your DHS-affiliated-religious-right-former/current-military neighbors (police/fire/etc-http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/10/190907/tomas-de-torquemada-in-the-us.html) inspecting you under locally severe criminal and/or civil scrutiny for practically nothing because they were both encouraged to, and because they could. I only wish at the time I could have spoken out so forcefully as these groups are now against this “chilling” mistreatment by TPTB without the threat of facing far more severe “penalties” for doing so in the process!

    • Jerry

      Yes I kind of understand where your coming from when my stance of not agreeing with the President on issues makes me a racist. As you explain yourself as being against all these liberal “isms”, for a minute I thought you perhaps were making the case your not a “typical liberal” at all, but then you started in with your victimhood so I guess you are.

      I am a Treasurer for a conservative group and I can say that the larger percentage of Bureaucrats I have dealt with have been a pain in my you know where and looking back at my past as being a businessman my personal feeling is being a conservative doesn’t give you an easy path.

      • Guest

        You’re definitely conservative. Clueless, jingoistic, and frankly, idiotic linguistically. It’s seriously pathological to claim victimhood from the IRS targeting you as a conservative, and then call others from a different tribe having the same IRS treatment, somehow well, different than you! How chosen, unique and well, different you must be!

        • David Baker

          Guest, you mean Hillary had a “Clue” that the ‘Reset Button’ she presented to Russian officials was improperly labeled? And did she have this ‘Clue’ so proprietary to liberals that Democracy was introduced in many European countries when she informed European officials that America was the cradle of Democracy? And Bill Clinton had a ‘Clue’ that Monica was having sex with him, despite his adamantly public denial of that sex? Gee, I guess you’re right. Us illiterate conservatives really need to get up to speed on them clues……….

        • David Baker

          Guest, here’s some more ‘clues’ us illiterate conservatives missed: The human anus functions as the means to excrete feces from the body after the digestion of food. There is no sexual function of that orifice. The female vagina is the receptacle for the male penis, which, when inserted and thrust repeatedly into said orifice, eventually ejaculates semen and sperm, usually resulting in the impregnation of the female. Uh, do you like, understand this?

      • David Baker

        Jerry, it would benefit our nation considerably if the prerequisites for political office included the candidate having experience with business ownership, or military experience. It seems today we have a large complement of “Professional Politicians” who never set foot in those fields. Indeed, they have never received a salary or benefit that wasn’t underwritten by taxpayers. One other aspect of this current regime entails many examples of nepotism. Hillary is a glowing example of that scourge. ALGORE, too, was advantaged in this manner. To be in a position of power, one must understand the effects of wielding their authority over populations. This current regime couldn’t care less what their policies have wrought on our society.

  • Jurgensen

    If the proverbial tax man was sent to audit a few Dick Armey(s) and screaming asshole pitchmen like Rick Santelli, it’s a good joke of the day. The remaining middle class, including homeowners who were screwed, ripped off and bankrupted take it in the face year round, and they pay taxes. The truly rich have nothing to worry about except their money, and they have trillions well out of reach of the IRS.

    • moreover504

      This has nothing to do with rich vs. poor. Stop deflecting. This has to do with punishing political speech with an arm of Uncle Sam. Just wait until the IRS controls healthcare.

      Need an organ transplant? What group did you belong to in the past?

      • marxmarv

        Distribution is all about rich vs. poor, whether the currency is cash, organs or whatever other privileges money can buy.

  • Mad Hemingway

    Feel sympathy for conservatives? That’ll be the day. Karl Rove’s groups were posing as non-profits while funneling millions to GOP candidates.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Jay-Murphy/100001565037274 Jason Jay Murphy

      Actually the post above notes that the IRS targeted groups that “educatting Americans on the Constitution and Bill of Rights”

      Is that what you think Karl Rove stood for?

      Maybe you need to pull your head out of your ass and realize that left and right no longer matter, there are those who care about liberty and those who are pushing the merger of corporate and business interests. (Both Bush and Obama are the latter)

      • Mad Hemingwya

        I know what this said. I also know that those only accounted for 1/4 of the 300 groups investigated. And don’t think I’m endorsing Democrats. Obama’s worse than Bush in many respects.

        PS: Did you notice I didn’t mention “ass” either. And I can spell pretty well too.

        • travis690

          What does Karl Rove have to do with any of this? None of his groups were denied status by the IRS!

          • Mad Hemingway

            Here’s where this is really a fake scandal. None of the groups that applied were denied 4c status. They were all self-reporting groups. All this happened under the watch of a GW Bush appointed IRS head, Douglas Shulman, not the temp guy that was just fired, Steven Miller. The IRS mishandled this and didn’t respond appropriately. 501(c)(4) are supposed to be exclusively social welfare according to the 1913 law passed. After Citizens United, the number of 501(c)(4) applications rose to 3,400 in 2012, more than double the level in 2010. Karl Rove’s organization spent, based on its tax filings, less than one-tenth of 1 percent of its 2011 revenue on social welfare.

            Washington’s Blog should do a better job on getting all the facts before putting their screed down for all to see. It was pretty sloppy “reporting” or “blogging”.

            Last thing on this. This is another example of Republicans saying “JUMP” and Obama asking “HOW HIGH”. This guy is truly a disgrace as a person and as a president.

          • David Baker

            Mad Hemingway, uh, so, well…A Bush Appointed IRS Head was involved in targeting CONSERVATIVE GROUPS?! Why would one of your supposedly regressive political appointees advantage liberals and disadvantage conservatives? Personally, I think you liberals are starting to get desperate. You flail around with these ridiculous Conspiracy Theories, and none of them make a lick of sense. Really, you should just learn to allow the facts to accumulate, and the processes of government investigations and Congressional consideration to be completed. If you REALLY want a “Conspiracy Theory”, why not question the reasons why THIS issue cropped up in the middle of the Benghazi Scandal?

          • Mad Hemingway

            Well David, don’t let facts get in your way. But keep talking, because I always need a laugh, and reading you and your buds here is pretty amusing.

            Douglas Shulman was Commissioner of Internal Revenue until November 9, 2012. His nomination was confirmed by the full U.S. Senate on March 14, 2008 and he was sworn in on March 24, 2008.

            So yes it occurred on his watch. But he probably didn’t know it was going on.

            Btw, here’s the seven questions the Tea Party didn’t like and what started this fake scandal:

            1. Requested the names of the donors

            2. Requested a list of all issues that are important to the organization and asked that the organization indicate its position regarding such issues

            3. Requested a) the roles and activities of the audience and participants other than members in the activity and b) the type of conversations and discussions members and participants had during the activity

            4. Asked whether the officer, director, etc has run or will run for public office

            5. Requests the political affiliation of the officer, director, speakers, candidates supported, etc, or otherwise refers to relationship with identified political party-related organizations

            6. Requested information regarding employment, other than for the organization, including hours worked

            7. Requested information regarding activities of another organization – not just the relationship of the other organization to the applicant.

            As far Benghazi, if only Republicans were as vigilant when the president is also a Republican. Let’s see, under George W Hoover, there was:
            1) 2002: U.S. Consulate In Karachi, Pakistan, Attacked; 10 Killed, 51 Injured

            2) 2004: U.S. Embassy Bombed In Uzbekistan -2 killed, 9 injured

            3) 2004: Gunmen Stormed U.S. Consulate In Saudi Arabia. 8 people killed

            4) 2006: Armed Men Attacked U.S. Embassy In Syria – 1 killed

            5) 2007: Grenade Launched Into U.S. Embassy In Athens

            6) Rioters Set Fire To U.S. Embassy In Serbia

            7) Ten People Killed In Bombings At U.S. Embassy In Yemen

            According the Wall Street Journal and the London Telegraph the US Embassy was mainly being used for a secret CIA operation and WAS NOT really a consulate.

            According to the Business Insider, in March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group–a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.

            There’s speculation that CIA boss David Petraeus’ affair wasn’t really the reason he resigned. He was scheduled to testify under oath the next week before House and Senate committees regarding the Benghazi consulate. Many speculate that it wasn’t an affair – but the desire to avoid testifying on Benghazi – which was the real reason for Petraeus’ sudden resignation.

          • David Baker

            Mad Hemingway, I had no idea YOU were the official investigation body within the government who will report to Congress and the White House on this matter. Do they assign a number of senators and representatives to your committee, or do you simply operate independently, gathering depositions and witness statements? Please keep us posted on your progress, if the government can spare you during your investigation!

            One thing about liberals, they learn to lie with conviction, and never let the truth see the light of day if it makes them look bad.

          • David Baker

            …Ala Hillary..

          • David Baker

            And, speaking of Hillary, were you the imbecile who labeled the “Reset Button” with an incorrect Russian phrase? We have established that you are an imbecile (And it was well known that Hillary was similarly ‘blessed’…..) but I would like to know if you were involved with that faux pas?

          • Mad Hemingway

            You really don’t have a life outside this blog comments do you?

            You have everything available to you to gather information that I do. I guess the difference is I use it. And you appear to watch Faux news too much.

            It sounds like you really should seek help for your anger management issues.

          • David Baker

            Mad Hemingway, ad hominem? Gee, it’s a little early to start getting personal, isn’t it. I mean, the usual liberal script would entail some racial motives for my concern about this tyrant entrenched in our White House. Instead, you have bypassed a few of the protocols for liberal discourse, and now you presume to analyze me. (Naturally, all liberals are practicing psychiatrists) You don’t tell me what to do, Liberal. If I want to post my views within any comment section of any webpage, you have no say or control over my posts.

          • Mad Hemingway

            Dave,

            You need help with your anger management issues. Please get help before you become a danger to yourself and others.

          • David Baker

            Anger Management is something liberals will have to deal with once your regime is off the throne. Hopefully, they will be disgraced as badly as Clinton.

          • sumpplrstupid

            Typical liberal response…..if you cannot shout your opponent down with revisionist history….you personally attack their mental capacity…..once conservatives have had enough……their possible response is to blow the MF’s head off!….End of problem!

          • David Baker

            sumpplrstupid, Pavlov would have been proud of his little puppy who posts here under the (I’m sure well-deserved…..) title of “Mad Hemingway”. There is no variation from a standard protocol of liberal discourse with the exception of ‘Its’ (Liberals always remain anonymous) apparent jumbling of the sequence. Usually, liberals follow a predictable pattern of insults, analyses, rebuttals, etc. I think these people attend classes, they’re so much alike in this regard.

          • Mad Hemingway

            Dave,

            You should really take a debating class along with your Anger Management class.

          • Mad Hemingway

            So, you’re advocating an Aurora, Columbine, and New Town response. It sounds to me like you’re a dangerous person who advocates violence when you don’t get your way and people don’t agree with them.

            Smile for the FBI when they come knocking.

          • Mad Hemingway

            Dave, I forgot to ask. Why are you so angry all the time?

          • David Baker

            Mad Hemingway, a rather stupid question, considering your handle. So, are you an authority in the government investigating this matter? Do you have specific authority to obtain depositions and sworn statements to compile for presentation to Congress? Are you presenting official data in evidence of this situation? In other words, are you REALLY not a frustrated Janitor?

          • dee

            there is nothing wrong with honest work-“frustrated janitor”

      • David Baker

        Jason, I don’t think there ARE “Conservatives” in our government today. If some public official claims to advance that ideology, with the attendant emphasis on “Family Values”, “Religious Freedoms” and so on, they won’t produce any track record of success against the liberal onslaught. Instead, they’ll be advancing the ideology of making war in the Middle East on the pretext of protecting Americans from “Terrorism”, while quickly promulgating legislation to eliminate sizable portions of our Bill of Rights.

        What Americans should strive to do is to make us safe from GOVERNMENT! That would be more in keeping with Conservative principles.

  • Charlie Primero

    When will you learn what “liberal” means?

  • deanrd

    The IRS targeted the NAACP in 2004 and wrote in a letter because the NAACP criticized Bush. It lasted for 2 years. When ever Republicans are outraged by something, it means they did it first.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Jay-Murphy/100001565037274 Jason Jay Murphy

      And I’m sure when the Republicans get caught, they can also point to some Democrat who did it before they did. I’m so sick of seeing my civil liberties flushed down the toilet by both parties and then hearing some idiot like you tell me it was justified because the “other party” is just as bad. Wake up!

      • marxmarv

        That’s the thing about the movement types. Movements are designed to replace reason and judgment with doctrine and directed emotion. No surprise, then, that message boards have both spontaneous bands of intellectual zombies from either party and mercenary units from whatever think tank doesn’t have a tasking and needs to just stir the pot.

    • moreover504

      What are you talking about? Targeted how? Need more details. Bring it forward.

  • http://www.911Blogger.com/ Orangutan.

    This is somewhat disturbing as well:
    (CNN) — The Justice Department secretly collected two months of telephone records for reporters and editors at The Associated Press, the news service disclosed Monday in an outraged letter to Attorney General Eric Holder.
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/13/us/justice-ap-phones/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

  • HS

    I expect that the reason conservative groups have been targeted is that they exhibit the characteristics that scare those who benefit from the corruption. If you haven’t noticed, any group guilty of organized
    dissent has been ruthlessly attacked over the last 20 years–labor unions, Tea Party groups, OWS, etc. Recent “domestic terrorist” legislation appears to be targeted at these conservative groups and following the media circus that followed the Boston bombings, several “news” outlets ran trial balloons to test the waters, by insinuating that these groups were behind the attacks. Several weeks prior, NPR ran a lengthy story describing how the Southern Poverty Law Center tracks “patriot” groups and characterizes them as hate groups. I imagine that one of the Kleptocracy’s wettest dreams is that they provoke one of these groups into violence so they can round them up and disarm them in the name of National Security.

    • marxmarv

      A number of these so-called “patriot” groups are actually cultural advocacy groups agitating to restore the privileges of being white, male and wealthy. That said, I don’t doubt that a certain amount of it was partisan warfare, with some Democratic true believer hoping to score a few points for the blule shirts.

      But seriously? Put your toys down and pick your brain up. The second you use a firearm against the government, you are a marked man committing to have a police force with essentially unlimited staff and ammo turn you into hamburger and scrape you into a big ol’ Ziploc. The only crime is challenging authority. (Almost) always has been, (almost) always will be.

      • travis690

        I’m still waiting for your old, tired statement about “restoring the privileges of being white, male and wealthy” to come true. Besides: When you read the Constitution, it does not make any reference to any of those categories being entitled to power enshrinement. And if it did? How much national good has come about from allowing people with Marxist tendencies to gain control of the functions of government?

        I could bother to answer that for you, but I think your name says it all.

        • marxmarv

          The best you can do is attack my name? Well, okay then.

          “restoring the privileges of being white, male and wealthy”

          Well… the privileges of being wealthy certainly have been restored. You can ask for the rules of the market to change in your favor at just about any time and get results.

          “When you read the Constitution, it does not make any reference to any of those categories being entitled to power enshrinement.”

          Can you tell me, then, what the 15th, 19th and 26th Amdts. were all about? Actually, it’s very well known that only white, male landowners (the latter implying a certain amount of discretionary wealth) over the age of 21 were guaranteed the right to vote by the original Constitution.

          “How much national good has come about from allowing people with Marxist
          tendencies to gain control of the functions of government?”

          If you’d get your head out of the movement, you’d see they haven’t. What do private corporations for private wealth have to do with Marxism anyway? If there is socialism, it’s ONLY for the wealthy. With a brief blip around the 1950s, that’s how it’s been throughout Western history.

      • David Baker

        “….agitating to restore the privileges of being white, male and wealthy.” What a typically slimy liberal sentiment. As usual, the whiners default to some racial issue when confronted with charges about their official malfeasance. And what if the IRS agents who allegedly targeted these groups were white and male? I don’t suppose you could cook up an even more idiotic analysis than the one you posted. You could also claim the IRS agents were racially motivated, particularly if they were black.

        Deport a liberal, save a country.

        • marxmarv

          Yeah, on second thought, your entire MO is trolling and pasting Koch propaganda (did you know a Koch founded the John Birch Society to keep the little people in their place?) and trolling. Are they paying you minimum wage for that at least?

  • David Baker

    “Why liberals should be outraged..” WHAT?! A liberal being outraged about something liberals DO? Yes, they should be as ‘outraged’ as a NASCAR Driver who says other contestants drive fast.

    • ResCogitans

      Prove that the IRS is “liberal”, genius. Take your time.

      • David Baker

        Res Cogitans, uh, ‘genius’ (The terms “Liberal” and Genius” are mutually exclusive. Hillary would be a proper exhibit…) you might want to read this article again to possibly glean some vital data you may have missed. Considering the content of your rebuttal, I’ll go ahead and fill you in, since the time factor may exceed even your generous allowances: Now, ‘Genius’, look at the phrase “..conservative groups were being inappropriately targeted.” Do you see that, ‘Genius’? Now, read the part about the “liberal administration”, won’t you, ‘Genius’? You may get the impression that liberals within the IRS were targeting Conservative Groups. Would that be a fair summation, dumbas…..I mean ‘Genius’?

  • SRV ES339

    “The targeting of conservatives under a Democratic administration could switch to a targeting of liberals under a subsequent Republican administration.”

    rotflmao!

    GW, I believe every one of the “Conservative Groups” in question were doing just that… and were fraudulently using taxpayer money (through tax breaks to their corporate handlers) to fund the operations… how about some details (and rage) on that aspect of the story (the IRS should of course be going after all of these groups, and if they can’t be charged through current law, congress should legislate them out of existence).

    p.s. The Tea Party was taken over and funded by corporations in the very early stages, using the “Patriot” meme as cover to ramp up the kleptocracy… OWS remains a (relatively) honest effort to fight back, with lack of success (due mostly to the corporate controlled media and law enforcement) being the DNA evidence.

    • marxmarv

      I seem to remember — the details are fuzzy and I don’t recall where — reading something about some world trade honcho meeting coming to a city. When faced with a very strong demonstration, they ended up cancelling the meeting, but not the police security. Apparently, it was more important for the trade mongers to convince demonstrators that their challenges to authority have failed than to actually have their meeting.

  • Rich H

    test

  • Rich H

    Conservatives are a bunch of whiners. Like the IRS hasn’t done this in the past to any group or individual it wanted to. I wrote my republican congressman I wanted him to support the impeachment of Bush – and all I got in return was an audit.

    • David Baker

      Rich J., we are all in agreement that liberals are the whiners, and they whine and kick and scream and install federal judges in key appellate courts, and use their media campaigns to facilitate their socially destructive agendas. So, you’re wrong. No, more like you’re lying.

      • Rich H

        That’s the biggest crock of bull I’ve read in a long time.

        • David Baker

          Translation of Rich H. Rebuttal:: “You told the Truth”

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominic.blais.5 Dominic Blais

    well conservative groups tend to be supported by people like the koch brothers and claim tax exempt status. so i see it as natural logic if its conservative it must be a corporate pawn and should be treated as such and a lack of transparency if they would admit who paid em and created them they wouldn’t have to be targeted. if you want tax exempt status you may not hide where your money comes from

    • travis690

      That’s not what the law that the IRS flunkies violated says. It DOES say that the IRS, in researching an application for tax-exempt status, is NOT permitted to inquire about who the donors to an organization are.

      And what the Koch brothers have to do with this (except as the bogeymen of the leftists) is beyond sanity.

  • David Baker

    It appears the Obama Regime is dismantling under the forces of human nature. You can only impose your control-freak persona over the teeming masses for so long before people start to resent your arrogance. Arrogance is a trait of liberals, along with the aforementioned need to control the population. One-by-one, their socially destructive tenets were pushed down our throats with the alleged impetus of some “Mandate’ which propelled this ‘monarch’ into office. When kids suddenly were required to turn-in the bagged lunches, which their untutored parents ignorantly supplied them with, those parents were a little upset about such an extension of our government. Gays are now on the Endangered Species List. Budget constraints and American Sovereignty have both been relegated to a quaint notion status.

    Liberals destroy societies. It’s what they do. They can’t help it! I’m only hopeful that Americans realize the extent to which these people have metastasized into our Halls of Power, media and courts, and perform the necessary extirpations to rid us of these whining control freaks.

  • ArchangelMichael2

    Welcome to the modern world of hope and change! Do you like it?

  • David Baker

    “I think it’s time for all us Transylvanian peasants to pick up our torches and march menacingly up to that castle on the hill.” That’s a line from the movie “Critic’s Choice”. It is also a rallying cry for anyone mildly interested in protecting what vestiges of our crumbling nation, along with our Bill of Rights, still exist from the grasping claws of this liberal cabal. We have sat back and endured the “Obama Miracle of Hope”– which, in the altruistic panacea of liberal egalitarianism, entails every ‘minority’ taking a crack at being in high office no matter what their political stripe (subtract “Conservative” from that list)–with a jaundiced view of this administration doing the dirty work of installing socialism. Naturally, under the threat of being labeled “Terrorists”, “Racists”, “Extremists”, or “Religious Fanatics”, we have been conditioned to sit on our hands and let our nation dissolve into the Third World Nirvana of Tin Hat Demagoguery liberals thrive within.

    No longer. We have seen how low liberals will be willing to descend in order to eliminate our freedoms and destroy our cultures. They never quit, and it should be clear to us that we should never relent in our efforts to restore America to it’s former glory.

  • Canistercook

    Oh what a devious web we weave when we decide to deceive! Sure makes me shiver when my government becomes so untrustworthy! Integrity seems to be vanishing in our society. Right or left wing should all be concerned. And they have their hands in our pockets. Have we become slaves to crooked government workers?

    • David Baker

      Canistercook, there is much corruption in our government, for sure. I worked for the government, and I can assure you there are elements within that entity who seek more power than they are accorded by statutes. The people I worked with were Retired Military ‘Double Dippers’, who in some cases receive up to three separate federal paychecks at the end of their careers (Military Retirement, Civil Service Retirement and Social Security. Some even have their wives on the public dole.) These people are used to having a fence around them which limits their powers. Once they get out into civilian life, their gung ho ‘tudes’ are kept in check. However, if they RETURN to Federal Service (as many do..) they instantly restore their stripes on their sleeves, or officer badge of rank, and continue on with their ‘Military-Political’ activities. People in civilian government sectors are considered by these authoritarian “Lifers” to be in some ad hoc ‘Boot Camp’, with Double Dippers established as the D.I.s. I’ve seen many examples of this type of behavior (Do you remember Retired General Haig, who ‘took charge’ of the government after the attempted assassination of Reagan? That is not an isolated case…)

      One remedy for preventing this type of situation was eliminated by Clinton: The “Dual Compensation Act”. Once that measure was repealed, Double Dippers flooded into organizations like Homeland Security, FEMA, TSA, DoD, the FAA and other government entities, rank intact. Perhaps much of this authoritarian hubris now displayed by our government arose from a large complement of “Lifers”.

  • David Baker

    The United States Constitution was established to both define government, and limit that entity. The Framers realized what power would be vested in our political offices, and set about designing several means to empower the people to resist, petition, publicly denounce and if need be, FORCEFULLY REMOVE a corrupted government or official. What we have in place today was a situation understood by the Framers: Tyranny. Our government has expanded to a level unprecedented, plunging our nation into unfathomable debt, forcing society to accept fringe-element perversion as criteria for marriage, and “Special Rights”. Removing our borders to allow illegal aliens to parade onto our land with the promise of American taxpayer funded benefits. They have deliberately violated the Constitution by infringing upon the 2nd Amendment Right of American citizens to Keep and Bear Arms. They have also respected the establishment of religion by enacting “Hate Crime” Laws that protect Jews. We are constantly told of pending wars in countries which cannot–and HAVE NOT–threatened the United States, costing us hundreds of billions of dollars, and thousands of American lives.

    We are in the realm of a tyrannical regime, and it is being demonstrated with armed drones gamboling over our heads, U.S. Gulags, Congressional Legislation which labels dissidents as “Terrorists” with no Constitutional Right to defend themselves (Indeed, they cannot even retain an attorney) This is what TYRANNY IS, PEOPLE! WAKE UP!!!

  • David Baker

    The United States Constitution was established to both define government, and limit that entity. The Framers realized what power would be vested in our political offices, and set about designing several means to empower the people to resist, petition, publicly denounce and if need be, FORCEFULLY REMOVE a corrupted government or official. What we have in place today was a situation understood by the Framers: Tyranny. Our government has expanded to a level unprecedented, plunging our nation into unfathomable debt, forcing society to accept fringe-element perversion as criteria for marriage, and “Special Rights”. Removing our borders to allow illegal aliens to parade onto our land with the promise of American taxpayer funded benefits. They have deliberately violated the Constitution by infringing upon the 2nd Amendment Right of American citizens to Keep and Bear Arms. They have also respected the establishment of religion by enacting “Hate Crime” Laws that protect Jews. We are constantly told of pending wars in countries which cannot–and HAVE NOT–threatened the United States, costing us hundreds of billions of dollars, and thousands of American lives.

    We are in the realm of a tyrannical regime, and it is being demonstrated with armed drones gamboling over our heads, U.S. Gulags, Congressional Legislation which labels dissidents as “Terrorists” with no Constitutional Right to defend themselves (Indeed, they cannot even retain an attorney) This is what TYRANNY IS, PEOPLE! WAKE UP!!!

  • David Baker

    The United States Constitution was established to both define government, and limit that entity. The Framers realized what power would be vested in our political offices, and set about designing several means to empower the people to resist, petition, publicly denounce and if need be, FORCEFULLY REMOVE a corrupted government or official. What we have in place today was a situation understood by the Framers: Tyranny. Our government has expanded to a level unprecedented, plunging our nation into unfathomable debt, forcing society to accept fringe-element perversion as criteria for marriage, and “Special Rights”. Removing our borders to allow illegal aliens to parade onto our land with the promise of American taxpayer funded benefits. They have deliberately violated the Constitution by infringing upon the 2nd Amendment Right of American citizens to Keep and Bear Arms. They have also respected the establishment of religion by enacting “Hate Crime” Laws that protect Jews. We are constantly told of pending wars in countries which cannot–and HAVE NOT–threatened the United States, costing us hundreds of billions of dollars, and thousands of American lives.

    We are in the realm of a tyrannical regime, and it is being demonstrated with armed drones gamboling over our heads, U.S. Gulags, Congressional Legislation which labels dissidents as “Terrorists” with no Constitutional Right to defend themselves (Indeed, they cannot even retain an attorney) This is what TYRANNY IS, PEOPLE! WAKE UP!!!

  • David Baker

    I’ve always suspected Rush Limbaugh was a quasi-conservative scarecrow, who left just enough rope in his near-missing, anti-liberal screeds to let liberals excoriate him and conservatism. Now his admonishment that impeaching Obama would be fruitless has vindicated my view. Like the so-called “Tea Party”, Limbaugh’s main concern is Israel. The PNAC Doctrine, cooked up in the 1990s, is basically a blueprint for American/Israeli hegemony in the Middle East. The impetus to convince Americans to adopt such a bellicose plan was plainly described to be a ‘New Pearl Harbor’. Ever since 9/11, these ‘Conservatives’ have harped unceasingly about invading and/or making “Regime Changes” in every Middle East country that just happens to be listed on the PNAC Protocol. Though true conservatives would eschew irrational reactions to foreign intrigue if it had no effect on America, Neo Cons jump like scalded monkeys (usually a liberal tactic..) when they get a chance to address these ‘atrocities’.
    Neo Cons talk the conservative talk, but they don’t walk the walk. Indeed, in Limbaugh’s case, he has “Presided” over two Clinton Presidencies, Two Obama Presidencies, Hillary’s undeserved political appointment, Gay Marriage, ad nauseam. It would seem to those of us who evince a conservative stripe that we’re placing our political eggs in a closet liberal basket.

  • Dario Fosca

    As long as Congress continues to let the IRS run our treasury department,since it it prints our money at interest to our federal government,there is no hope for our country!

  • Canistercook

    Amazing how many people support this government tyranny and even more so it’s scary!
    What happened to the old saying “I don’t agree with what you are saying but I support your right to say it”. Guess we no longer had ‘free speech’ only the kind of speech those who support the Democrats allowed! Made the Constitution a worthless document!

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  • Sam

    Not only does the IRS target tax payers, but they target their own employees for harassment as well.
    While working for the IRS, I had all fantastic appraisals, three formal awards, and letters of recognition from other employees and managers. Then suddenly I was moved to another manager (a member of the executive team at the New Carrolton, MD. site). That’s when my career fell apart. In the course of working for this manager for a few months, she assaulted me twice, wrote me up for not turning in work that I had turned in, and, once I filed a complaint about her physicality, accused me of being physical toward her. She got several members of the executive team involved in harassing me out, then issued me a suspension based on fiction. (Notice that, in my 30 year career in the industry, I had never once come close to any kind of discipline.)
    The manager in question brought me before her manager (someone who wielded even more power) for a bawling out whenever she felt I had dome something wrong. The union admitted to wrong-doing on the part of the manager, but never lifted a finger to help out. The purported wrong-doing was always a piece of fiction, and provably so. (I was once falsely accused of going AWOL for three weeks because I purportedly had not filed the right paperwork. Not only had I filed the right paperwork, but management actually knew I had, but wrote me up anyway.) When the woman’s manager had me to his office to issue the final notice of the suspension, For about half an hour I explained why the suspension was not deserved. Finally I burst into tears. Then he said: “You are too emotional for us.” Notice that this was after several months of harassment at the hands of the executive team.
    Finally, all charges were dropped on appeal and I left with a positive reference from management.
    This experience is going to haunt me for the rest of my life. The executive team spent hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars to bully me out.
    The IRS should make training videos for managers on how to bully people out. (Maybe they already know how.)

 

 

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