Ron Paul: “What I Fear The Most Is a False Flag – Something Happening Where One of Our Ships Goes Down, Or … a Plane Goes Down, And of Course It HAD To Be The Iranians, You Know, For Sure, For Certain”

Will a False Flag Be the Start of An Iran War?

Ron Paul said recently (at 28:00):

What I fear the most is a false flag – something happening where one of our ships goes down, or there’s a plane that goes down, and of course it HAD to be the Iranians, you know, for sure, for certain.

(Paul previously warned of a “Gulf of Tonkin type incident” in Iran.)

Paul joins numerous other high-level government officials who have warned that a false flag may be launched against Iran to start a war:

  • The highly influential Brookings Institution wrote a report in 2009 called “Which Path to Persia?” which states (pages 84-85):

It would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.)

  • A number of very high-level former intelligence officers – including several that personally briefed presidents every day on matters of national security – stated that better communications between the U.S. and Iran were needed to “reduce the danger of … covert, false-flag attack”
  • One of America’s top constitutional and military law experts – Jonathan Turley – writes:

Many critics have argued that there is a concerted effort to push the United States into a war with Iran by supporters of Israel. Patrick Clawson, director of research for the highly influential pro-Israel Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) think tank, seemed intent to prove those rumors true this week in comments as a luncheon on “How to Build US-Israeli Coordination on Preventing an Iranian Nuclear Breakout.” Clawson casually discusses how to create a false flag operation to push the U.S. into war to overcome any reluctance by the public. We have been discussing how many leaders like Senator Joe Lieberman had begun to use the same rhetoric that led to the last two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how the suggest timing of an attack has been tied to the presidential election.

In his remarks, Clawson helpfully lists a series of historical events used to push the country into war like the Gulf of Tonkin incident that gave us the Vietnam War. Clawson expressed his frustration in acknowledging that it is “[v]ery hard for me to see how the United States President can get us to war with Iran.” However, there is hope. Clawson explains that the “traditional way” to get the country into a war is through false flags or manufactured incidents where Americans are killed. Thus, he observes, “we are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians, we could get nastier about it. So, if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war.”

The fact that one of the leading analysis for the WINEP would feel comfortable in making such comments is itself quite chilling. It indicates that such discussions have become sufficiently regular that it has creeped into public discussion. It is a measure of the secret pressure building to push this country into a third major war despite our crippling economic conditions and losses in military personnel. The assumption in Washington is that neither Romney nor Obama could oppose such a war. Even if Obama does not publicly support Israel, the assumption is that political allies of Israel in Washington can guarantee that we would offer extensive military loans and intelligence. Even if there is a delay in such military loans and support, the assumption is that Israel can go to war with the understanding that the United States will cover a significant portion of the costs. Moreover, in his remarkably candid remarks, Clawson shows how the U.S. can easily be forced into direct combat by pushing Iran to simply kill some Americans or sink a few of our ships. Then members would be clamoring for revenge. Notably, the Israelis have been ratcheting up the war rhetoric in pushing Iran, which predictably has now reserved the right to engage in a preemptive strike not just against Israeli but U.S. interests. We would then, again, find ourselves in a war without any public debate or collective decision.

While Clawson adds a passing caveat that he is not advocating such an approach, his remarks are clearly designed to show how the group can get the United States into a war for Israel if only we can get Iran to kill some of our citizens or soldiers. Those people are of course expendable props in Clawson’s realpolitik.

By the way, Clawson has been enlisted to give his insightful analysis at the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. He is also a member of the National Defense University’s Institute for National Strategic Studies. The World Bank connection is particularly interesting given the history with Paul Wolfowitz who pushed the U.S. into two disastrous wars in the Bush Administration and was rewarded with being made the head of the World Bank.

It is the callous disconnect that is most chilling in these remarks. Thousands of U.S. soldiers have died or have been crippled for life in these wars that have left the country near bankruptcy (and increasingly hostile “allies” in Afghanistan and Iraq). Those casualties and costs, however, appear immaterial in the discussion of supporting Israel in a war against Iran.

And false flags have long been planned against Syria.

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  • mmckinl

    Israel has already tried several false flags recently … India, Thailand, Georgia and then Bulgaria …

    The NYT immediately blamed Iranian surrogates for the Bulgarian bombings … and more !!!

    “The New York Times outrageously said if Israel’s accusation is true, “the Bulgarian blast would be the first successful attempt by Iranian operatives to kill Israelis in attacks abroad after a string of failed bomb plots targeting Israeli diplomats in Georgia, India and Thailand this year.”

    Israel has probably learned its’ lesson. They will need a really large false flag against the US or a very close ally like England to get things rolling along.

    http://theintelhub.com/2012/07

    Noam Chomsky sees a “false flag operation” coming …

    “”CHOMSKY: Well, Israel is a pretty crazy state. My suspicion is that they are trying to create the circumstances under which the U.S. will attack Iran – they don’t want to do it themselves.”

    • Sassan

      You’re an idiot. The Indian and Thai authorities have linked the terror plots in their country directly to the Revolutionary Guards in Iran and have arrested individuals and have warrants for others. Kenya already has members of the Guards in their custody that was behind the plots in their countries. People like you are indeed brainless imbeciles that fail to look at the evidence of such a heinous, Islamic imperialist regime.

      • loveatari

        says the jew

        • Sassan

          lol is that all you anti-Semite Paultards can do? Call others a Jew? If I was a Jew, I would be proud to be a Jew. After all, they have great numbers of Nobel Laureates. But no, I am Iranian-American atheist and “technically” born a Muslim. Get a life.

          • MikRom

            Sassan you are a phony. Johnathan Azaziah already outed you as a phony.

          • Sassan

            All of you fools are so predictable in your responses.

          • PotcallsKettle

            You are so predictable running to your “Anti-Semite” defense! Zionism is a political movement not religious don’t get it confused. When people are anti American I’m not stupid enough to think they hate Americans because of their freedoms or who we are. It’s the foreign policy, it’s what Americans do around the world. So hide behind that silly defense seeing as it is the ONLY one you have.

          • Sassan

            Yes, ignore the evil Islamic ideology. Just as all of you Paultards do and why most of you are anti-American and anti-humanity.

          • B Jackson

            Make no mistake. Islam is a vile-evil Death Cult, but they had nothing to do with 9-11. While this comment may get me banned, 9-11 was a Mossad Operation (except for the attack on the Pentagon)
            Signed:
            A Former Republican and a professional investigator.

          • Sassan

            lol thank you for affirming that Ron Paultards are pretty much all a bunch of conspiracy laden maniacs.

          • Sassan

            When someone’s first response to attack me is “says the Jew”, it is clear for all to see that they are an anti-Semitic bigot. Just like most of you Paultards.

          • PotcallsKettle

            Which evil Islamic ideology is that exactly? The MEK

          • PotcallsKettle

            The MEK is supported by Israel just like Al Qaeda was created by the US and is supported by the US and other EU countries. You call all Paultards anti-Semites while calling the whole of the Islamic population evil. Do you not see a pot calling a kettle black situation? Why should you be allowed to attack an entire religion while condemning others that do the same? That’s called hypocrisy and it buys you no credibility. Israel is guilty of acts of terror, war crimes and wars of acquisition. Do you denounce them for their evil ways? And when was the last time Iran invaded someone?

          • B Jackson

            (Raises hand) 1798!

      • mmckinl

        “The Indian and Thai authorities have linked the terror plots in their country directly to the Revolutionary Guards in Iran”

        No they have linked them to possible Iranians, probably MeK. The Revolutionary Guards in Kenya were set up by the Mossad through operations in Iraq, home of the MeK. These two have been released on $22,000 bail each pending their trial …

        Both the Burgas and Bangkok operations were botched … or were they? In both cases the explosives detonated too early. Looks like a setup to get rid of evidence while creating a terrorist attack.

        Just a theory but it cold be that MeK operatives could be responsible for both the attacks inside Iran and the operations in Burgas, Tblisi, India and Bangkok. Looks like an Israeli crew that got too far along in Burgas … or maybe Netanyahu needed Israeli blood to start his war with Iran.

        The arrest of the Swedish-Lebanese in Bangkok that was supposed to be Hezbollah support for the “Thai Bombers” has been cleared of any charges in that case but faces charges on the chemicals he said were to be exported elsewhere.

        You really need to do your homework dear Mr. Sassan …

        • Sassan

          lolololol… this regime has been involved in terror attacks throughout the world including the killing of hundreds of dissidents worldwide ever since its inception. This is a regime of overseas terror. This is what they are all about. And again, Thai, Indian, Georgia, Kenyan, Azerbaijani authorities have all linked the plots DIRECTLY to the Islamic Republic Revolutionary Guards. Grow up and get a brain. Educate yourself about this regime..: http://www.iranterror.com/content/view/38/56/

          • mmckinl

            More lies Mr Sassan … They have NOT linked these plots to the Revolutionary Guards but to Iranians that are MeK.

            These Israeli false flags are falling apart at the seams … It is becoming clearer everyday what exactly happened … and it is just as I have laid out …

          • Sassan

            You repeating a lie doesn’t make it so. These countries have directly implicated the Revolutionary Guards and Qods force. You keep keep repeating the same nonsense but it doesn’t make it true. Simply go by what the authorities from all these countries have said after their thorough investigations. Particularly in Thailand, India, Georgia, Kenya, and Azerbaijan.

          • mmckinl
          • Sassan

            LOL, Thai Shiite Muslim religious leaders are now “Thai authorities”? lol

          • Nish Mahan

            @mmckinl:Thank you so much for bringing out the truth.
            @Sassan: Calling others fools & idiots just reflects on how shallow & biased your own arguments are and it doesn’t take a genius to see through the charade of deprecating lies you are trying to knowingly & deliberately float across to an audience that is smart enough to see through you!

          • Sassan
          • mmckinl

            Old news Mr Sassan … Israel has overplayed its’ hand. The truth is coming out.

          • mmckinl

            More lies Mr Sassan … They have NOT linked these plots to the Revolutionary Guards but to Iranians that are MeK.

            These Israeli false flags are falling apart at the seams … It is becoming clearer everyday what exactly happened … and it is just as I have laid out …

      • jay r.

        Phony baloney sassan you are trolling the wrong site dude. Its not Christian-Jew-Muslim its right vs wrong. The particular people doing the bad deeds are Israelis, Americans and Saudi’s of wealth and influence. Its a few bad apples in this bunch that ruin it for “many”, regardless of faith and state.

      • EdD

        “You’re an idiot.” Well, I guess that makes everything you say unarguably true, doesn’t it? You’re a shill. That much is obvious.

  • 12 trees

    Iran is allied with Cuba and Venezuela. Cuba is leasing deep water oil exploration rights to China, some in waters that overlap US territorial waters. Venezuela kicked Exxon out, among others, and has vast oil reserves that do not need to transit the Strait of Hormuz. Both socialist states give transnational predatory piracy a black eye, so they need to go.

    Look for a false flag said to originate in Cuba, with a dirty nuclear bomb exploded near New Orleans, radioactive material traced from Cuba back to Venezuela, originating in Iran of course. Presto — Caribbean lockdown, Cuba finally retaken, invasion of South America, never to leave, and then of course the Iranian consequences, Partition of Khuzestan and Balochistan, reannexation of Azeri pluralitiy provinces to Azerbaijan, oil, gas, electricity, and water all rerouted from Khuzestan to Haifa. Fragmentation of Iran solidifies the position in Central Asia, ready for the big push into Siberia, the real prize. World war indeed.

    All of this has been in the works for a long time and is running unopposed. Haiti was backfield in motion — watch what happens when the ball snaps.

    • Sassan

      I’ll say that you fools have great imaginations.

      • expat

        Sassan = COINTELPRO

        • lilbear68

          that was a FBI program and as we all know they shut it down after being threatned with public exposure. unfortunately it has magically re appeared recently. but nonetheless it was a FBI program

      • 12 trees

        Few remember that on the first night of Baghdad shock and awe in 2003, the first thing that happened was looting of the national museum. This was a primary objective of the entire Iraq campaign — to remove priceless cuneiform tablets from Sumerian times, most of which had never been translated. Shortly after, when victory was declared, the second part of the antiquities hunt that began with daily “no fly’ runs under Clinton continued under the guise of a search for nonexistent ‘weapons of mass destruction’. Looting of the museum and the land produced a priceless trove of treasures, taken to Tel Aviv for destruction.

        Truth had to be destroyed, because the Hebrew Old Testament was based entirely on earlier documents, plagiarized, but misstated for public consumption. What they found and destroyed was every iteration of the core directive in the OT, which is also the secret oath of the Mossad disinformation center where you work ‘Sassan’. Those immortal words, passed along in secret for these countless centuries, remain hidden but visible through the actions of yourself, ‘Sassan’, and your zionazi team (the Nazioni). Hidden but visible, because you walk the talk, and vice versa. These key words, pillars of a historical process now playing out, words that guide you and countless other quislings, are actually imprinted in the tiniest of type on the backside of a shekel, hidden in plain sight. They are: “Baffle with bullshit!”

        GW is far too nice in printing your own version of the Mossad psyop trademark, argumentum ad insultem. You should go over to Veterans Today for a proper circumcision. Having said that I have to feel some compassion. Because I know that you, ‘Sassan’, are most likely a Ukranian sex slave in Tel Aviv, once a beautiful young woman but now a blown out sack of shit, too old for blow jobs and almost but not quite ready for the Israeli ‘final solution’ — organ donor. And in this purgatory you are forced to write simple minded crap like what you presented above. So let me say I hear your hidden cry for mercy and feel your pain. I know this analysis is correct because in Ukranian slang ‘Sassan’ means either ‘blow job’ or ‘spitting on the sidewalk’. It depends on context. Shalom, and don’t despair, little one — the truth shall set you free. And everyone else.

        Thanks GW for shining such a brilliant light. With it we are finding our way out of darkness. This is the real Exodus.

        • Sassan

          lolololololololol

        • B Jackson

          Nailed it!
          It’s all bull pook, going back to the time of the Annuaiki!

        • EdD

          “the Mossad disinformation center where you work ‘Sassan’” Probably not. Paid shills like this guy usually work in little boiler room offices in crummy buildings and their worksites are moved frequently. They aren’t allowed to work unsupervised, but never really know who they’re trolling for or who actually pays them.

    • lilbear68

      dont forget that last year hugo chavez re patriated all venezuelas gold so now they are not subject to US economic sanctions and has hinted that all oil sold will soon be paid for only in gold

      • Bob4587

        dont forget that last year hugo chavez re patriated all venezuelas gold so now they are not subject to US economic sanctions and has hinted that all oil sold will soon be paid for only in gold

        You are definitely right, but I have a little other opinion

        plagiarism in seo

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000056431693 Russell Lawrence Benford

    Why do detractors keep acting like the U.S. doesn’t already have a history of false flag operations?! smdh

  • lilbear68

    i thought that the enterprise CVN 65 was gonna be used as the sacrifical lamb in a false flag over there to start the war with iran as its due to be retired anyway but i guess not, as far as i know its now headed back to norfolk for de commisioning

  • http://slrman.wordpress.com/ James Smith

    “Naturally, the common people don’t want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine policy. It is always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it is a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.

    This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”

    Hermann Goering Hitler’s Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg trials after WW II

 

 

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