Israel Versus Iran: What’s REALLY Going On …

The Conflict Only Makes Sense With Historical Perspective

Israeli prime minister Netanyahu and Iranian president Ahmadinejad both seem like hotheads.  Israel and Iran are making fiery accusations against each other.

There have been religious wars in the Middle East for thousands of years (think Crusades) … are we drifting towards WWIII?

What’s really going on?

It is only apparent when you learn the historical context:

  • The people pushing for war against Iran are the same people who pushed for war against Iraq, and said it would be a “cakewalk”. See this and this
  • In 2002, for example, Israeli prime minister Netanyahu helped convince the American Congress that Saddam was making weapons of mass destruction:

(Of course, American intelligence already knew that Saddam didn’t really possess WMDs. And see this.)

  • The CIA admits that the U.S. overthrew the secular, moderate, suit-and-tie-wearing, Democratically-elected prime minister of Iran in 1953. He was overthrown because he had nationalized Iran’s oil, which had previously been controlled by BP and other Western oil companies. As part of that action, the CIA admits that it hired Iranians to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its prime minister
  • If the U.S. hadn’t overthrown the moderate Iranian government, the fundamentalist Mullahs would have never taken over. (Moreover, the U.S. has had a large hand in strengthening radical Islam in the Middle East by supporting radicals to fight the Soviets and others)
  • The U.S. armed and supported Iraq after it invaded Iran and engaged in a long, bloody war which included the use of chemical weapons. Here is former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld meeting with Saddam Hussein in the 1980’s, several months after Saddam had used chemical weapons in a massacre:

  • Hotheads within the U.S. and Israeli have been claiming for more than 30 years that Iran was on the verge of nuclear capability
  • The U.S. actually helped fund Iran’s nuclear program

  • The decision to threaten to bomb Iran was made before 9/11

Postscript:   Top American and Israeli military and intelligence officials say:

  • Despite its heated rhetoric – Iran is a “rational actor”. For example, in 2011, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified before Congress that “we continue to judge Iran’s nuclear decision-making is guided by a cost-benefit approach.” In February 2012, General Ron Burgess, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told Congress that “the agency assesses Iran is unlikely to initiate or provoke a conflict.” Also in February, General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said: “We are of the opinion that Iran is a rational actor”

And despite the fact that Iran is a Muslim country, it actually treats Jews and Christians pretty well … much better than close U.S. ally Saudi Arabia.

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  • A. Patriot

    You are awesome. I love this blog. I abandoned mine because I would just be reposting yours anyway.

  • geo1671

    Re : “,,,,Iranian president Ahmadinejad both seem like hotheads” Would you like to explain? Seems your blowing and sucking at the same time. FYI:Ahmadinejad is a rational person.I’m guessing the author doesn’t like the truth be spoken about Israel. Time to stop the bashing. What do you want from Ahmadinejad — agree to what the Brits Yanks and the French Frogs and the Israelies want a one way street conversation? I hate folks who staart making ugly accusations and then agrre with the victum :^(

    • Chris

      Keep in mind this is the same guy who continually ignores the mountains of evidence that heavily implicate Israel in 9/11. Half truths abound here.

    • Chris

      My previous comment to you was scrubbed. I’ll try again. The guy who runs this blog feels the need to extend some sort of false equivalence between Ahmadinejad and Netanyahu or Israel and Iran. When there clearly is not one.

  • Bonnie

    “religious wars in the Middle East ( think Crusades)…”

    Actually, I think “Canaanites” – Philistia, Amorites, et al, where the jews slaughtered every living thing, man women, children and animals.

    And I think, islamics in the 600s A.D. and onward, – all over the Middle East, North Africa, Mesopotamia, Anatolia, C.Asia and India, and Spain and E. Eur. later, where the islamics, slaughtered anybody that refused to see things the islamic way. Matter of fact, they’re still doing it.

    • O E

      The most successful meme („Ideology“) of all times was perhaps „Jewish culture“, because all other cultures directly or indirectly stem from it: christians, muslims, protestants, capitalists, communists, Marxists, fascists, Nazis, Hollywood cinema, etc. etc. — and no body has understood so far that he is just a slave of this silly 2000year old Jewish tradition, because all “humans” are under the unconscious influence of these “jewish memes” (i.e., political correctness)!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Lee/100002164448994 James Lee

    Sorry, but the only crazy “Hot head” I see here is the Israeli Prime Minister. Who keeps on crying wolf…..

  • Dave

    Achmedinejad is no hothead, he calmly & rationally explains his nations right to enrich uranium for electric or medical isotopes.
    It is Netanyahu who is not only a hothead, but a liar as well.
    Here’s what’s going on; Israel was a creation of the Rothschilds, the Rothschilds have a neat little racket called central banking where they loan money to nations (the yare the primary shareholders in our federal reserve).
    Iran has stopped selling oil & gas for dollars, this threatens the US dollar, US economy & its parasite that feeds from it, Israel.

    • Gary McCurry

      people for the most part just watch msm and see how he is betrayed, it would also help if others watched the video war on democracy and see the real story on the other (so called)hot head, chavaz,

  • Yukon Jack

    Iran is surrounded by dozens of US military bases, is being threatened daily, had to endure Saddam’s invasion and 10 year war because they had the balls to regain control of their country from the beast: Zionist / bankster / US military complex.

    The talking head of the beast, Satanyahoo, is frothing at the mouth for the USA to attack Iran. Pretty damn obvious who’s lying and who’s the aggressor. Ahmadinejad is being amazing calm as he talks about the plain as day Zionist problem especially considering what he’s up against and what they witnessed in Iraq.

    It would be nice if we “brave” Americans had the balls to overthrow the criminal Jewish network controlling this nation. We need to emulate Iran, not criticize them, for Christ sakes the Jews are destroying us!!!

  • 12 trees

    The whole nuclear discussion about Iran is a smokescreen for a resource grab, to be implemented by fragmenting the country, as follows:

    1. khuzestan province is to be “liberated.” This province adjoins Iraq in the Basra area and has a high share of the oil and gas resources in the country. Notable also is a network of rivers and reservoirs with huge reserves of fresh water, some operating hydroelectric generation grids. In addition there are large mineral resourcs in the Zagros mountains. Khuzestan has an ethnically Arab majority that does not get along with the Persian (Farsi speaking) majority in the central government. US teams have been working for at least a decade to bring about a revolt in Khuzestan.
    2. Caspian provinces, including those called East and West Azerbaijan, will be split off and annexed to the nation of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijani oil resources are largely Israeli controlled. Adding Iran’s share of the Caspian basin to Azerbaijan will enrich a select group. Please note that Cheney was an executive of the Azerbaijani-American Friendship organization, and most of the key neocons have been heavily into this group.
    3. The Baloch ethnic minority, which spans across the border between Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, will be set up as a new client state annexing territory from all three countries. Balochistan offers mineral and gas resources to be developed and a deepwater port outside the Persian Gulf that is considered to be key to a 21st century Indian Ocean strategy.

    Resources from Khuzestan, including gas, oil, water, and electric power, will be transferred to Israel across the unpopulated Southern Iraq desert, for consumption and transshipment via the Mediterranean. This is part of a larger Israeli strategy for total control of the Mediterranean, now being enacted. That strategy has deep historic dimesions related to ritual revenge against the empires of Greece, Rome, Phoenicia/Carthage (Lebanon), and Spain, over biblical era grudges never forgotten. All of the old empires are to be replaced by a Mediterranean hebrew empire, bought on the cheap through economic warfare now in high gear. Persia, liberator of the hebrews held captive by Babylon (Syria) will finally be punished for its kindness (“let no good deed go unpunished” — must be in the Old Testament somewhere!)

    Stripped of most of its wealth (and water) by selectively stealing peripheral provinces, the rest of Iran will be left to literally starve to death. Certainly no invasion will be required to accomplish this end.

    The flip side of the WWIII coin is that the provocation for war will be designed to engulf Iran’s weak allies in the Americas, Venezuela and Cuba, both with extensive oil resources. The US will use this excuse to implement a major invasion of South America, with a huge buildup in Paraguay that will be used to undermine and weaken all of the surrounding countries, especially Brazil, with its vast deepwater oil resources.

    A third front will develop over control of Siberia, gateway to the Arctic and the last big zone of mineral wealth to be conquered. Russia has weak control of Siberia, the Chinese would like to annex it and have been working toward that end. We might see a resurgence of Japanese militance (as a puppet of the US, which is a puppet of Israel) and a replay of the conflict of 100 years ago before this is resolved
    .
    Sorry this is so brief — for more and better background see Mike Whitney:
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11743.htm

    • amerikagulag

      and the whole purpose is to create “the Greater Israel”
      http://www.trionfopublishing.com/news_page_67.htm
      Biggest little terrorist nation on the planet Israel is.
      More affectionately known as the “Pirates of the Mediterranean”.

      • Blair T. Longley

        It is hard to imagine how Israel could ever have come to exist and survive without the backing of the international bankers. It is only inside that context that the deliberate preparations for, and provoking, and carrying through of one war after another can be adequately understood.

        Control over natural resources depends on control over money. Therefore, the ultimate war is for control of the money system, after which follows control of all other natural resources. The international bankers are basically a gang of trillionaire mass murders, who use every possible means to advance their agenda over the long-term, and “Israel” was another one of those means.

        I do NOT think it is useful to talk about that as being Jewish, since that is just another misleading label, full of misdirections, and historical pit falls. I do NOT think that the majority of Israelis know about, or are able to control, what their government is doing, and even less can Israelis change what the international bankers plan and carry through.

        Anyway, I do not believe it matters who they are, but rather, what they do. The international bankers have been directing almost everything happening in global politics for a few centuries, and their roots go back in time as far as history does!

        “Greater Israel” may well be the idea behind some of the players. However, others, who are more powerful, may simply use Israel as another tool to advance a bigger agenda. They may be risking the destruction of Israel instead, which seems even more probable than the sustainable triumph of any “Greater Israel.” … THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE REAL WEAPONS AVAILABLE ARE TRILLIONS OF TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN THE PEOPLE, AND ANY TOTAL WAR CAN BECOME TOTAL ANNIHILATION OF NEOLITHIC CIVILIZATION ITSELF!!!

    • Blair T. Longley

      “smokescreen for a resource grab” is about the money system …

      Controlling resources comes from controlling the money system.

      “War is a Racket.”

      — Smedley Butler

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

      One sentence summary:

      The system has become too good
      at ripping people off,
      in order to fund being
      way too good at killing people off!

      War is simply organized crime on a grander scale, and there is no way
      to prevent that. Militarism is the supreme ideology, because it does not
      allow anyone else to refuse to participate: either get with that
      program, and become militaristic too, or be conquered and assimilated
      instead. We are living inside of the systems established by the long
      history of war. Our money system is backed by murder. It does NOT matter
      if you do not like that, or wish that it was not true, or indulge in
      impossible ideals about how it might not be the case, IT IS!

      That
      is particularly bad now that warfare has developed weapons that are
      trillions of times more powerful. War is now an utterly insane racket,
      run by organized criminals that are demented mad men … War was
      ALWAYS a racket, for thousands of years, but it did not become an
      utterly insane racket until very recently, within the life time of those
      still now alive! BUT, we still can not do anything else, and still
      do not have any way out of that runaway insanity!!! The old-fashioned
      imperative of slavery, “do what I say, or I will kill you” has become the postmodern runaway slavery system, “do what I say, or I will kill almost everyone.”
      War was always an obligatory racket. However, every day, more and more,
      the whole world is becoming an increasingly insane place, where the
      most criminally insane people are controlling what is happening, through
      bigger lies, backed by more violence! Warfare
      is the oldest and best developed of social sciences, and it needs more
      profound paradigm shifts than any other science ever did!

      FACT: the mass media are dominated by a handful of enormous
      corporations run by professional liars pumping out propaganda! The supreme organized crime syndicate
      is international bankers. They are the biggest gangsters, the
      banksters. All NATO countries are components of a global system, which is primarily a
      PLUTOCRACY. Since that is directed by corporations, that can be
      qualified to describe it as a fascist plutocracy. The most important
      achievement of the banksters was to take control over the money system. All the Western countries are integrated into a global system of privatized fiat money,
      which has evolved from paper money, backed by gunpowder weapons, to a
      global electronic fiat money fraud, backed by atomic weapons. The
      supreme achievements of the banksters were through their long history of
      dominating the funding of the political processes. Throughout most of
      the history, less than 1% of the people paid for 100% of our
      politics, while 99% of the people paid for nothing. That was what made
      it possible for the banksters, and their buddies, to buy up effective
      control over the politicians. It also helped that the banksters, and the
      corporations that grew up around the banks, are able to control the
      mass media, as I mentioned above. When the banksters could not bribe or intimidate a successful politician, that was a champion of the people, that politician was usually discredited our destroyed through illegal means, including assassination. Plutocracy means government by the
      wealthy. The international banksters have become a group of trillionaire mass murders. The supreme form of “wealth” is the runaway fraud of being able
      to make money out of nothing, as a debt, and, through taxation and
      legal tender laws, forcing everyone to accept that! Privatized fiat
      money is money based on nothing but faith, and the power of the
      government to force everyone to use that fiat money to pay their taxes
      and other bills. Therefore, governments gave away the
      power to make money out of nothing to privately owned banks, those
      governments changed the crazy cult of fiat money into being their state
      religion, that everyone was forced to respect and accept. That system of
      privatized fiat money spread out through the British Empire, and
      through other means, to conquer almost the whole world. After a struggle
      back and forth in the earlier history of the USA, the banksters finally
      won with the creation of the American Federal Reserve Board in 1913, which became the heart of that beast, although maybe not its brain.
      After the banksters recaptured control of the American economy, they
      have been able to use that power to drive forward their global agenda. A lot of other countries always followed along, first as a colonies of the British
      Empire, under the Bank of England’s privatized fiat money system, to
      then following after the USA system. THE WORLD SYSTEM IS DEBT SLAVERY, BACKED
      BY WARS BASED ON DECEITS. The few countries in the world that resist
      that system are being systematically attacked, and forced to be
      integrated into that. Iran is merely the latest example of that
      historical process. Our weapons do NOT protect freedom and democracy,
      they protect the banksters frauds. The next world war will be another
      step in the attempts that the international bankers may take to try to
      advance their agenda for control of the whole world, by total control of
      the money supplies everywhere. To the degree that they keep control over the money system, then they also can control the natural resources. However, their efforts to do that risk
      world war going out of control, and destroying almost all of
      civilization instead. Their social and psychological habits make them so
      that they ARE willing to risk that! Their current wealth and power are
      due to them being the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with
      violence, in the past. Their power to control us, and the rest of the
      world, is due to them triumphantly applying the principles and methods
      of organized crime to take control of our governments. That is what is REALLY going on in the Israel versus Iran situation. That is the latest wave of many thousands of years of Neolithic civilization’s social pyramid systems, which are ALL about a few controlling many, through lies and violence, serving systems of fraud and robbery, in which warfare is merely the most extreme manifestation of that process, which has made the entire mainstream society around us become a money system backed by a murder system.

  • jay r.

    It seems as the Media outlets that use these warped headlines never have the guts to have a comment section.

  • Snord ster

    Ahmadinejad a hothead? I think you’ve not done your research. How can you possibly put him in the same context as Nutty Yahoo? I see you now.

    • Chris

      He seems to feel a need to extend some sort of false equivalence between Israel and Iran, or at least Irans Prez and Netanyahu. Which is completely at odds with the available facts about both.

    • Chris

      My previous comment to you was scrubbed. I’ll try again. The guy who runs this blog feels the need to extend some sort of false equivalence between Ahmadinejad and Netanyahu or Israel and Iran. When there clearly is not one.

  • Rob

    rofl if Israel just stayed quiet and stopped trying to force a conflict with Iran then they wouldnt have all these problems, bottom line israel is greedy, wants war with its arab neighbours, and also give the land back to palestine please, Israeli pride and arrogance should be dropped to allow the palestinians their land back, stop saying you’re the victims, because Israel isnt a victim, it is an agressor just leave the arabs along ffs, they arent disturbing Israeli national security…Israel needs to be quiet and stop aggravating conflicts, we are not going to help them, our soldiers are not dying for their personal agenda and motive.

    • moira

      long live palestine.

  • Chris

    WHY ARE MY COMMENTS BEING DELETED. My previous comment to you was scrubbed. I’ll try again. The guy who runs this blog feels the need to extend some sort of false equivalence between Ahmadinejad and Netanyahu or Israel and Iran. When there clearly is not one. (screen grab to prove censorship)

  • Rehmat

    Ahmadinejad has never threatened to “wife Israel of map” or sent secret agents to assassinate Israeli nuclear scientists. What Ahmadinejad says is a warning for the Zionist entity and its western anti-Muslim backers. How he is seen by some of the western anti-war activists. Israeli-born British author Gilad Atzmon called Ahmadinejad ” a man of morals as compared to British prime minister Blair”. American writer John Kamenski said he wished American had president like Ahmadinejad.
    http://rehmat1.com/2009/07/11/ahmadinejad-beyond-the-zionist-propaganda/

  • amerikagulag

    Here’s the likely scenario: Jewland will take down the US financial computers and blame it on Iran.

  • Alexander

    The Netanyahu video doesn’t claim that Iraq has WMDs, only that they want them…. Yet the blogger snidely replies to Netanyahu, “(Of course, American intelligence already knew that Saddam didn’t really possess WMDs. ”

    Israel has reason to fear Iranian nukes because Iran has a long history of supplying Hamas and Hezbollah with weapons, and is run by people who say in public that they’d like to see Israel destroyed.

    Whether or not you think that Iran would actually give WMDs to Hamas and Hezbollah, and regardless of what you think of Netanyahu himself (most Israelis don’t care for him by the way), the Israeli fear of an Irananian nuke is a real fear that must be addressed directly. When someone feels that he is defending his very homeland, no amount of external pressure will get him to change course. America and many other countries have launched wars with far less of a pretext than this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1200351841 Jason Rahall

    Thank goodness Romney lost the election. 17of the 24 foreign policy advisors to Romney were leftover neo-con-artists from the Bush administration. With that crew whispering in Romney’s ear, the US would once again be leading a mission to impose liberty and democracy with bombs and bullets.

 

 

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