12 Million Americans Are Sociopaths

Posted on August 5, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog

Are The Inmates Running the Asylum?

We’ve extensively documented that sociopaths in D.C. and on Wall Street caused the financial crisis.

But we didn’t realize how many people are sociopaths.

Psychologist Martha Stout – who – clinical instructor in psychiatry at Harvard Medical School for 25 years – estimates in her book The Sociopath Next Door that as many as 4% of the population are conscienceless sociopaths who have no empathy or affectionate feelings for humans or animals.

4% might not sound like much.

But – using the U.S. as an example, that means that 12 million Americans are sociopaths.

Because sociopaths are ruthless and will squash their rivals and burn institutions to the ground in order to reach their goals – but great at pretending that they care about people – they are incredibly destructive.

Sociopaths would have been discovered very quickly in a small group. But in huge societies like our’s, they can rise to positions of power and influence.

Unless we learn to spot “wolves in sheep’s clothing”, we will continue to fall prey to their scams.

Note: Other mental health experts put the percentage of sociopaths at 1-3% of the population, which is 3-9 million Americans.

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  • http://www.naturalmoney.org niphtrique

    The problem with sociopaths is that the system favours them. Wealthy people on average are less compassionate while economic freedom is often perceived as a freedom from responsibility and commitment to a society. Capitalists consider greed to be virtue and this eroded moral values. It may therefore not be a coincidence that psychopaths are over represented on Wall Street and in boards of multinational corporations. The economist Milton Friedman strongly opposed the idea that corporations have a social responsibility. In his work Capitalism and Freedom he wrote:

    The view has been gaining widespread acceptance that corporate officials have a “social responsibility” that goes beyond serving the interests of their stockholders or their members. This view shows a fundamental misconception of the character and nature of a free economy. In such an economy, there is one and only one social responsibility of business – to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so long as it stays within the rules of the game … Few trends could so thoroughly undermine the very foundations of our free society as the acceptance by corporate officials of a social responsibility other than to make as much money for their stockholders as possible.

    The consequence of the extreme position of Milton Friedman is that whenever there is a profit in killing people corporations have a moral obligation to do so. If it is against the law to kill people, corporations have a moral obligation to bribe politicians into changing the law. Nothing should get in the way of a good profit. This is Capitalism in its purest form. We see it everywhere around us: the destruction of nature, the wars for the benefit of the military industrial complex, speculation in food leaving the poorest prone to famine, the selling of deadly pharmaceuticals and the assassination of leaders that do not generate enough profits for the oligarchy. It is the ultimate result of markets being amoral and traders having stretched their moral values to maximise profits.

    A real solution is only possible without Capitalism. It is possible and the solution is not Socialism.

    • bob klinck

      You might want to evaluate the analysis and proposals contained in the WIkipedia article on “Social Credit”.

    • http://www.blogsburgh.com UncleSim

      Being greedy is not the same as being sociopathic, and it doesn’t lead to being sociopathic, either.

      What concerns me is your apparent belief that capitalism favors sociopaths, but govt power doesn’t. I assume that’s because in your world-view, govt is a check on the evils of capitalism. But have you ever considered that capitalism itself, is a check on evil? Who is able to accrue much in their own lifetime, without being a good steward of the resources they employ? If someone is good at something, do they not typically enjoy greater economic success than those who are less good at the same thing? So, free trade allows individual consumers to choose to trade only with those whose work they value. By contrast, govt intervention forces everyone to contribute, even to policies they abhor, like aggressive wars against other nations.

      War is a VERY expensive venture, one which greedy capitalists are likely to avoid if at all possible, since their voluntarily-acquired income is based on maintaining a positive public image. Govts, however, do NOT acquire their income voluntarily, and so do not have to worry nearly as much about their public opinion. As long as the right ppl are paid off, the govt will keep working the way they expect. In the market, the truth will always be found out eventually, and the perps will suffer. Example… the CEO of BP lost his job long ago, but the President of the US who unilaterally limited BP’s liability for damages due to the Gulf oil spill is still in office.

      Based on such evidence, I can only conclude that those who trust govt more than ‘free’ market actors may have sociopathic tendencies, themselves. They only pretend to care, by supporting legislation with flowery names that actually do horrible things. They only see the crimes of their enemies, but not their own. A wise man recognizes his own flaws, and tempers them. A wise man works to change the individual he has the most influence over. A (sociopathic?) fool attempts to remake the world to his own liking.

      Milton Friedman was a Keynesian apologist for fascism, not a capitalist. His views have some educational merit, but only socialists and apologists for omnipotent govt either revere him or consider him an example of a Capitalist, because their definition of capitalism is a bit off, imho.

      • http://www.acting-man.com pater tenebrarum

        Well said. . In terms of societal organization, there really is no ‘third way’ – it is either socialism, or capitalism. As Ludwig von Mises said:
        “The issue is always the same: the government or the market. There is no third solution.”
        The State without a doubt attracts a great many sociopaths who would never consider serving consumers.

  • AdVader

    4%? that’s a lie, much much more americans are sociopaths and not only americans, our system&society is polluted, hearts&minds programmed with pseudological lies, normalizing abnormalities won’t change anything about femini$$m-samesex-atheism is the making of sic&selfish antisocial destructive borderliners/sociopaths!

    • http://new-holistic-medicine.com stephen

      Speaking with my young adult children, I’m appalled what they are telling me of their classmates. It seems that we have a full blown epidemic of narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder. That generation is not morally fit to continue civilization nor fit to survive.

    • http://washintonsblog.com Juan Matus

      You are totally right. Fifteen percent is a lot more likely and these people are mostly concentrated in government, the military, and finance.

  • johnm33

    Since ‘civilisation’ got started there’s been a ‘game’ being played out between the human democratic/consensus way of living and the inevitably more efficient centralised power model. The social insects show us how the centralised power model works out if the game is allowed to run without moral imperatives. You could make a case that we’re operating rather like honey ants as societies but within our societies we have as much systemial variety as bees. Whether bee ant wasp or cockroach[termite] they all have similar outcomes, 1, a central pampered elite who ruthlessly control the worldview and actions of their ‘society’ 2, a thugish warrior class that enforces the central will both without and within 3, a neutered workforce without the possibility or the luxury of acting in their own interest. Look around do you see anything like this anywhere.
    The sociopaths imo are an evolutionary adaptation to assist in the transition form the human/consensus to the social insect/central power model, at 5% we’re f—-d.
    Thanks for what you do.

    • http://n/a Susan

      Remember this it is all by design. A new world order is not established without tearing down the old.

  • Eric B.

    Washington’s Blog continues to confuse sociopaths with psychopaths, so it’s worthwhile to quote a comment made to the preceding article on this subject on this blog, by “DL” on July 14, 2012:

    I am glad I am not the only one who knows the reason Wall St. oligarchs and the politicans they own do what they do: they are PSYCHOPATHS, criminal psychopaths.

    And they are NOT sociopaths as many claim for the simple reason that while “society” will do something about sociopaths, only INDIVIDUALS, not society, can do something about psychopaths.

    That is the main difference between a sociopath and a psychopath: a sociopath is a threat to society en masse, at large, and have what the DSM IV calls “pathological social disorder” or “antisocial disorder.”

    But a psychopath, with “psych” being Greek for “mind”, is a pathology to the mind…the mind of the psychopath and the mind of the victim. Psychopaths play on the mind, even the collective mind of the non-psychopath (which is most Americans). Sociopaths are not mainipulators, and basically know the difference between right and wrong and have a conscience. Psychopaths DO NOT have a conscience, are amoral (do not know the difference between right and wrong), and are manipulators.

    Further, they are good enough manipulators that most in society will not do anything to stop them…psychopaths have this tendency to know how to prevent others from seeing them as psychos. And right now, the only folks who can legally stop them from doing what they do (short of hanging, shooting, or putting these psychos behind bars or in an institution far far away from everyone else), are either psychos (most in Congress and the executive branch, or even the Supremes), or are psycho wannabes, and have been threatened, bullied, and bought off by the psychos whop own them.

    More folks like you (and me) need to help Americans understand what criminal psychopaths these people really are, because most Americans do understand the danger of psychopaths.

    Those who lack a conscience, who don’t know the difference between morality and immorality, who couldn’t care less who they hurt (as long as it’s not themselves) — such as the people who run the big banks and the big corporations — are psychopaths, not sociopaths. Perhaps in future Washington’s Blog will finally manage to avoid conflating these two concepts.

    • Robert Birdwell

      I apply the definition of sociopath and psychopath by relating it to actual observed behavior.

      I concluded Bill Clinton was a malignant narcissist and a full-blow psychopath, Hillary too.

      I observed George W. Bush as being a sociopath seeking the approval of narcissistic psychopaths.

      In observing Barak Obama, his behavior is the classic malignant narcissistic psychopath.

      Out of the three, I conclude Obama is by far the more dangerous as he knows no moral or ethical bounds; is totally lacking even a shadow of a conscience, and is quite capable of effecting the destruction of America if it will benefit him and his obsequious louts who serve him.

      From what I’ve personally observed in business, politics, including the judicial branch, I think the percentage of sociopaths and psychopaths of the general population is far higher than 25%.

      I would also state that of those having real power over the rest of us, the percentage is more like 99%.

      Psychopaths crave power over others.

  • http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/ Dredd

    More than likely, a substantial number of the powers that be are psychopaths, not sociopaths. There is a difference that indicates as much.

    In other words, there would be a greater percentage of 1% elites who are psychopaths than sociopaths, with less of both, percentage wise, within the 99%

    • perogi

      Makes sense – because if you can read these words, you are 1% when compared to the world.

  • E

    “OUR’S”????!!!!!

  • gozounlimited

    Telling Truth Gently ….. Amerikkkan genocide and rectification as explained sweetly to the perpetrators ….. see video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUtwbg6Bnmk&feature=related

  • Will

    You cant understand politics without understanding psychology

  • http://billhicksisdead.blogspot.com/ Bill Hicks

    Unless we learn to spot “wolves in sheep’s clothing”, we will continue to fall prey to their scams.

    Well, there are 535 of them in Congress, one in the White House, and a whole bunch more on Wall Street and in the Pentagon. Is that a good start?

  • http://unicornpoo.wordpress.com unicornpoo

    Let’s use a base of 1%, just to be conservative. That’s still 3 million sociopaths.

    Out of that 3 million, we can easily suppose that 1% of them, 30,000, are in the top tier of the intelligence and financial brackets. They recognize each other for what they are.

    It’s not so hard to see how this network of sociopaths back each other and form what’s been called the Pathocracy. We see evidence of it every day and most people have no idea what they’re looking at.

  • Mitt Romney and Barack Obama

    All you faggots can blow us we are taking over

  • john killham

    12 millions are not.

  • sth_txs

    So what about the sociopaths in government? Bill and Hillary Clinton, Newt Gingrinch and the like are clearly such people.

    Only a dope could conclude that ‘capitalist’ can be sociopaths.

  • http://new-holistic-medicine.com stephen

    I was married to a sociopath for 22 years. She is a very good actress and can feign sympathy and can be very charming. But behind closed doors she is manipulative, enjoys stirring up dramas, chaos and turning everybody against each other. There is only one way and that is her way. It was 22 years of misery and our kids are all messed up. What can a man do, knowing that if he divorces she will take everything and make sure you will never see your own kids again? I hung on, worked nights so I would not have to see her, started a secret bank account and when my youngest turned 18, I was GONE!

  • Chad

    Population density has an optimal number, and after that point, man creates more problems for man than he solves.

  • http://www.stopeg.com Peter Mooring

    PSYCHOPATHS AND FAILED HUMAN BEINGS

    A small percentage (1-2%) of the people on our beautiful planet is mentally ill, we call them psychopaths.
    Psychopathy is the most dangerous of all mental disorders. The essential empathy component is missing often resulting in the destruction of people, companies, countries, …
    Psychopaths are parasites and would eat their own children to achieve their goals (or stay out-of-jail) because they just don’t care.
    They failed as human beings and caught in their own web of lies the only thing that is left for them is to commit crimes day-by-day to stay out of jail, in fact confirming their own failure in life.
    Very visible psychopaths can be found in our governments and at other positions with power, including our secret services and military.
    If you take for example Obama, Bush, Clinton, Panetta, Petraeus, Gates, etc. and check their behaviour against psychopathy syptoms lists then they will all score the minimum of required behaviours.
    They are responsible for the deaths of hundred thousands, for destroyed countries, and then for example Obama says on Januari 24, 2012 that ‘everybody must play by the same rules’.
    This is just typical for psychopaths, express how powerful they are and never take responsibility for their actions.
    Powerful psychopaths are very afraid being found out. So they create events to distract us, buy the media to brainwash us and lie to us.
    Also they make new laws, like the USA Patriot Act, not to protect them or their countries against terrorists (are there any terrorists anyway?)
    but to protect themselves against the normal people who just want to take them to court and jail them for all the horrible crimes they have committed, for all the deaths of innocent people they have caused.
    I suggest we immediately send the mental heath care to these persons, to pick them up and make sure sure they stay in a mental institution for the rest of their lives so they cannot hurt other people anymore.
    See also: A new low in history: US government showing the people of the world how they watch murdering their enemies
    , The normal people at war with the mentally ill (the murderers and psychopaths)

    Please visit
    http://www.stopeg.com to read about probably the most cruel crimes committed in history by your governments …

    Thank you,
    Peter

    http://www.petermooring..nl/blog/

  • jaleel shakir

    The perverse culture in America is the blame for all of the ills that effect this society.

  • dogg

    Harrington wrote a great book about this phenomena several decades ago, called “Psychopaths.”

  • Eric B.

    “This comment” (in my message of August 9) actually referred to my reply posted (on August 6 and still ‘awaiting moderation’) to Dredd’s comment of August 5. So here is my reply again:

    The article that Dredd links to, namely Kelly McAleer’s Sociopathy vs. Psychopathy is an excellent explanation of the distinction, and I hope Washington’s Blog will read it, and from now on will continue to draw attention to the immorality and criminality of psychopaths (especially those among the 1%) without causing confusion by talking of sociopaths and psychopaths as if they were the same.

    BTW Wikipedia should not be cited for any reason other than to point out how inaccurate and unreliable it is, an example being the WP page on Martha Stout, who is clearly unable to understand the difference between sociopaths and psychopaths.

    Anyone who wants to do some proper research on this subject would do well to start with Andrew M. Lobaczewski’s Political Ponerology: A Science on The Nature of Evil adjusted for Political Purposes. Googling ‘political ponerology’ will bring up many links.

  • http://www.themadbaglady.wordpress.com mbl

    Actually, this is a moot point really, as the point of the article has nothing to do with terminology, but I thought I’d just mention this. I think there are different views on the sociopath vs. psychopath terminology. From what I’ve read in psychology “sociopath” is the new label being used for “psychopath.” In other words, a sociopath and a psychopath are the same thing, different terms used to describe the same condition. At least this is true in the US. (Sometimes the British use different terms to describe things.) But from what I’ve read psychologists have just decided to use the term “sociopath” instead of “psychopath” as they think it better defines the condition.

    Also antisocial personality disorder is a different thing. It is a personality disorder, so it reflects one’s personality (not necessarily their ability to have a conscience or sense of right and wrong) and can result from one’s upbringing. (While sociopaths may have been born that way…or not. I don’t think psychologists completely understand what creates them.) Those with antisocial personality disorder might commit crimes or cause trouble because they are “antisocial” but they are not necessarily cruel, calculating, lacking in empathy creatures as are the sociopaths.

    Personally, I think our society is creating sociopaths as we are taught to worship people for making money no matter how or what they do to make it. We don’t value people for their integrity or moral character but for their material wealth. People (I’m not mentioning any names) who engage in cruel, cutthroat, destructive business tactics, who hire children from third world countries to work as slaves for 12 or more hours per day for only a few dollars per day are lauded as heroes in our society. Seems that one can be an entirely despicable human being responsible for the suicides of thousands or millions of people but be worshiped in American society because he/she has a lot of money. Meanwhile, some people might be poor but have contributed by helping those around them in many ways (there are lots of ways to help other people that are not monetary or material) and yet are thought of as “non-contributers” just because they have acquired very little money or material possessions.

    Americans are suffering from a collective character flaw, in my humble opinion. I wish someone would do a study comparing how many sociopaths/psychopaths exist in the US as opposed to other countries.

  • Thomas

    What is the difference between a psycopath and a sociopath? Truth be told, there isn’t one. I beleive that i am a psycopath; i have a spouse and a son and quite frankly could not care less for them. I have a large family that are close knit, and i also could not care less for them.
    All of that aside however, i have been searching for the definitions of my condition and the pathetic opinions of others on this subject and i find it to be at fault. You claim us to be social predators, which fills me with a sense of joy but, is simply not all true. I do not know anyone that is like me and i have been rather open about my mental state with my spouse since the begining in a vain attempt to be closer with her. All it has acheived infact is that she is now worried i may murder her at some point for no reason at all, and that she often thinks i am having conversations with my subconcious.
    All that said, my point is this: Unless you can correctly catagorise the mental states of psycopaths/sociopaths, then you should keep your “facts”, and i use that word very, very loosly, to yourself. I beleive that those who commit murders and have low self discipline are not fully embracing their own nature and are resisting it, leading to mental breaks and warped viewpoints. Those that fully embrace what they are can live their lives as best they can which obviously differ from those that feel deep emotions such as regret, love, empathy etc.
    Aside from talks with my spouse, this is the first time i have been open about my mental state and i shall not do so hiding behind the cowards safetly net of being anonymous.
    I live in England and my name is Thomas. Should anyone want to talk to me about this then email me – pte_zedd@hotmail.co.uk

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=649131173 Daphne Procz-Shorts

      According to the definition of antisocial personality disorder [APD] and the studies that are being conducted on it, low self-discipline IS connected to APD. In fact, in the studies I cited for a paper I wrote about the antisocial male batterer, antisocials are just better at being angry. For some reason, you have a low threshold for violence because you need it. Your heart rates are lower during aggressive incidences, and this may be because you are not receiving enough serotonin, enough cortical arousal, or a combination of both. The integrated model of childhood and genetic factors shows that many men like you are exposed to anger, and that because of your genetic predisposition toward needing to be aroused, your mind becomes wired in a different manner.

      I also find it interesting that you seek to disassociate yourself from those in prison for two reasons: (1) There is a greater percentage of antisocials in jail than in free society; and (2) arrogance is connected with APD, as is narcissistic personality disorder. This last fact seems to be displayed in your need to distance yourself from those who have been caught.

      Good luck, and please get help.

      • Thomas

        Firstly i shall not get help becuase i do not need or want it – it would suggest that there is something wrong with me, which there is not. If one person enjoys jazz and another enjoys rock then you would not tell one of them that they are wrong, so it should be with this subject. Becuase you feel emotions that i do not, does not mean that i am broken, it is a matter of debate.
        I do not allow for emotions to warp my judgement, i do not allow natural “fight or flight” instincts to allow me to place myself in danger that i otherwise would have avoided. As a prime example of this: in Britain some years ago a child walked onto a train track, the mother realised this at the point in which the train was going to hit the child, nothing could be done about it. Rather that thinking “I wonder if that is going to make a huge mess like the movies”, she decided to throw herself infront of the train and of course they both died. I am still unsure if the said mess was created, however the point is that it was due to mental deficit that they both died, a mistake that i would not have made and thusly proving that i do not need mental help.
        As regards to your research, i have no doubt that it was all conducted upon prisoners and the likes, or perhaps theory and speculation upon those individuals placed into a position of power that make cold decisions, thus rendering your research half valid. There was no violence in my childhood, i was not exposed to any form of bullying, abuse or generally around violence in any way.
        You are correct about the lower heart rate and less adrenaline, especially when confronted with violence, i find myself calm and usually mentally playing the next series of blows before hand. That said, damned if you do and damned if you dont? Anti social persons are prone to aggression unless they dont need it?
        Sociopaths are the same as psycopaths by definition, there should however be a system in place to catagorise those with the mental differences. For example:
        Pycopath
        5 – Most dangerous, likely to cause harm to others
        4 – Probable to cause harm to others
        3 – Harms animals and not above harming others
        2 – Harms animals
        1 – Displays normal social behaviour
        The article that i originally posted on claims us to be “wolves in sheeps clothing”. Wow. Is that specific in our agenda or what? So….all pyscopaths are criminals? All of us are social parasites? All of us “need help”? I think not. I beleive that there should be support available to those with the mental differences to help them make decisions that they are unsure about, or to help catagorise themselves etc, so far however all that is available is a few rubbish online tests, a few people that have done “research” on the subject, again on prisoners etc, and, for the most part, articles like this claiming every one of us to be criminals or labelling every criminal one of us. Bullshit. Complete crap. This offends me and makes my life more difficult. If i wanted to discuss this with my doctor how would i do that? “Hello doc, i am a psycopath”? No, he would want me gone. Should i go tell my family? “Hello everyone, i am a pysco and could not care less if you all died right this second”? No. Of course not.
        There is no support available what so ever unless you are a prisoner, so that people like you can do research on them and claim to be proficient on the subject.

        • Evolve

          Fool.

          • Thomas

            I get notified automatically via email when someone posts here. That is why i am responding so quickly; just good timing.

            I do so enjoy the way that the orignial source of this debate was fear mongering in which, as i am trying to point out, is pretty silly. Then i have had replies from others who claim to be profficient on the topic, and yet have no clue, clearly. Which leads to you. You clearly fantastic input has shown everyone on this site how wrong they really were, how our arguments were flawed in so many ways.

            Of course it didn’t. It actually didn’t have any input what so ever. You didn’t show your resoning, or reinforce your point. That said, you don’t appear to have a point at all other than to get your ten pence worth.

            Why don’t you do us all a favour and return to Facebook. A haven set aside for people like you to give singular worded answers upon the pictures of everyone else that nobody wanted to hear, read or listen to at all in the first place.

            Before you attempt to come back with some petty rubbish i cannot frankly be bothered to read, let alone be dragged into a pointless argument with an internet tough guy, let it be known that academically and perhaps scientifically, a Psychopath willing to step forwards and freely admit it, despite not having been caught committing crimes and inprisoned, is a boon.The answers that can be given must be astronomical. To finally dispel any myths about rational and non-sadist Psychopaths around the world. Incredible. Which begs the question to all that have replied to this post. What the hell is wrong with YOU?

            I came forward and with that comes the prospects as above; all i have received infact is “get help” and “Fool.” You short sighted, arrogant, idiotic, pompous fools.

          • Thomas

            I acknowledge my spelling mistakes, so there is no reason to point them out.

          • slc

            You’ll probably shoot this down but I was wondering have you tried reading any of the bible? I’m not a Psychopath but I had a frequently locked-up mother who was Schizophrenic and I myself was diagnosed with Multiple Personality Disorder (now known as Dissociative Identity Disorder) years ago. Since then I have been kept on the straight and narrow by reading and attempting to apply the truth of God’s word in my life. I actually applaud your honesty and transparency. I don’t believe all Psychopaths are murderers either. But in any case you may think I’m out of place for approaching you with this suggestion, but I’m sharing with you what has helped me to be a better person. I didn’t get a choice on the way I came into the world/my early childhood but I made the choice to get healing once I realized I had pieces missing. I think that’s all any of us can do. Make the most of what we have left. God bless and good luck to you. You seem like a decent person overall.

          • HealTheMind

            Sic- I applaud you for at least offering up kindness and some sort of solution that you feel is helping you. The other people’s post i found to be a little embarrassing, to say the least.

            Thomas- I agree partly with Sic in regard to having a spiritual connection, connecting to God. I also applaud you for being so forth coming about what you are experiencing. I think the problem in society,( especially amongst men) is that they will not admit to having any sort of problem. This disorder is very serious and I truly believe that we can find a way dissolve it’s affects on people and perhaps cure it. But, first people (men) need to feel comfortable enough to talk about it openly. I have had several experiences with men that I believe to be Psychopaths or Sociopaths and it has drawn me to learn as much about it as I can. Hopefully we can bring more awareness to it and find a way to overcome it.

            Something I would recommend is Landmark Education. I have taken the course a few times and what I have learned has been invaluable. I find that a lot of our mental way of being is caused early on and so If we can get to the root of what caused it, we then perhaps can dissolve it. I am fascinated with our brain and the capability it has to heal. I truly believe that we can heal our bodies of anything. Not easy of course, but definitely possible.

          • ash

            You didn’t need a god, you needed something to give you direction. Let go of the fantasy figure and live in the real world where the only law is ‘Do as thou wilt’.

          • March

            If you are what you say you are I would love to know why you got married.

          • http://twitter.com/Surfingcity Don Allen

            I was thinking the same thing. If they don’t have the capability to love then why stay married?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Khaos-Krow/564684642 Khaos Krow

            You’re forgetting about the legal benefits of being married, and implying the only reason to get married is out of “love”.

          • Joe

            You’re not a psycho/sociopath you just think you are, you sound more like a narcissist to me. When you do meet an actual psychopath you’ll see you’re not really one.

          • You’re an idiot

            LOL This guy doesn’t sound like a psychopath at all. If anything he sounds like a wimpy type of guy who’s been emotionally hurt too many times so puts on this weird internet persona to try to make up for it. Here’s the deal, sociopaths/psychopaths never know that they are what they are. And here this guy comes in trying to CONVINCE everyone he is, since when do sociopaths have a NEED to convince others that they are sociopaths?? Lol give me a break! This guy also goes out of his way and tries way too hard to fit into the classical sociopath type, it’s pretty sad and embarrassing for the guy. Give it up Tommy boy, you are not a sociopath.

          • Thomas

            They never know what they are? So, you know when you are upset, you know when you are happy, but you clearly have no idea when the people you are supposed to care about die and you don’t care at all?

            That is some top notch logic there dipshit.

            I do not feel the NEED to prove to a bunch of nobody’s that i am or am not a sociopath/psychopath, only the need to stop everyone fear mongering a bunch of ill informed people about how dangerous they are. A sociopath has the inability to care. That is all. A pyschotic, which FYI has nothing to do with a psychopath, is dangerous. The only time that a sociopath/psychopath becomes a real danger is when they are also a sadist.

            Wimpy and emotionally hurt? Why not go then whole nine yards and call me a virgin or an internet tough guy that thinks all the problems in life dissapear when i have sex? 9/10 times the very insults people throw around on the internet are mirroring their own insecurites.

            I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else, i came forwards to shoot down some silly fear mongering and to try and give people, who were genuinly interested in the topic, a bit more of an education. People call any arsehole a sociopath and any killer a psychopath, it has become common practice, but it is simply not so.

            I am no longer going to post on this site so if you actually want some kind of input from me, then email me.

            Now that i am not here, feel free to create an account with fake name and insult me.

          • http://twitter.com/Surfingcity Don Allen

            Why would a sociopath/psychopath even get married or have kids and why would he even care what others think.

          • Open minded fool

            Tony Soprano? he had kids and was married. Again, Tommy may not be right bit he is right about one thing, the people on here don’t know what they are talking about and just like to point and judge people who are different.

          • Pogo

            You are not a sociopath or psychopath. You are a classic narcissist. You come here, spouting long posts about how much you don’t care and how little everything means to you and repeatedly put people down who offer interesting, logical insight to your words. A sociopath wouldn’t give two shits about posting here, nor would they give enough of a crap about the others here to insult them or even reply to them. Your posts revolve around your warped sense of ego and the self-importance you obviously covet from being ‘different’ than others. You need to feel special for some reason and you need to flaunt that specialness to get attention and feel superior to others. Not sociopathic/psychopathic behavior at all. How do I know this? My brother was diagnosed by a military psychologist many years ago. We have to live with his disorder the rest of our lives, you however could get help but you’re too full of yourself to even try. You’re not much different than a drug addict or alcoholic who claims they don’t have a problem, help is out there, you just don’t want it, and therefore will continue to be a thorn in the side of society, spreading your misery and bile on everyone you come into contact with because you need to feel good about yourself. I really can’t stand people like you, who self-diagnose just to exonerate yourself from your bad behavior. Not once have I ever heard my brother brag or even talk about his behavior the way you do. He doesn’t care. He doesn’t care what we think about it. He couldn’t give a damn about what society thinks of his ‘label’ either. It serves him no purpose to talk about it, educate people about it, or dwell on it. It’s just how he is.

          • Open minded fool

            So I guess that means everyone has to be like your brother and not give a damn. You know there is such thing as a self aware Narcissist ..well why couldn’t that be possible with a sociopath? If I narcissistic can tell he’s one but simply can’t change much about the fact that he is one, then what can he do? Nothing, he just admits it and tries to get on with life. Ask yourself this as well, you say your brother doesn’t care about his label as a sociopath. OK, that’s fair enough, but have you ever asked yourself why we humans label each other in the first place? If we are all different and Unique, surely we can’t be the same thing under a label “Sociopath”. It’s the good old divide and conquer method we humans all seem to use, make the problem seem wrong and then start hating. If anybody was clever enough or “Moral”, they would realize that human beings are all different and that we all have some degree of Narcissism, Egoism, aggression and so forth, only some people have to on a completely different level. Just because they are the minority, does it make them wrong? Is it their fault they were born or brought up that way? It could have easily been you. Then again, I think the only reason some people call others “Psycho” is because they are insecure themselves and know humans beings can be horrible creatures but just prefer to blame all of humanity’s problems on the few abnormal one’s.

        • Open minded fool

          Tommy, You are the man. You are the first person I have ever talked to who realizes that we are all different, we think differently, eat different and none of us are exactly the same. If humans can be sociopaths and Psychos that doesn’t mean they are not human or fit to be human, if anything it just shows how human people really are. At the end of the day, Humans all have good and bad in them (depending on how you define those two terms). I hate people who judge, they think that they are perfect because they obey the laws of society and so they feel better about themselves. Why do people love Crime films and thrillers? Because they enjoy seeing sociopaths rebel against society and be “Free” individually and wish they could be like them. It’s funny isn’t it…

      • Are you serious?

        Thomas never said he was violent… nothing you’ve said here is relevant in any way to what he actually wrote. In fact, it’s alarming that you’ve written a “paper” when you’re obviously not astute enough to extrapolate relevant information from what you’ve read and make connections between it and what you write…

    • Ash

      There certainly are huge gaps in psychology. There are a few things that I don’t understand tho, maybe you can explain them to me. If you’re feelingless/emotionless, why do you have a wife ? Why did you make an attempt to be closer to her ? You have a large family that is close knit – does that mean you’re still part of the family ? If so, why ? Why would you keep entertaining them if you don’t care ?

      • john

        Most sociopaths aren’t emotionless entirely, you still care for people just a very limited number the difference is a lack of empathy for other people. For example a girl died after a rave when she walked out into the snow and froze to death overnight…I found this hilarious to which my mom called me a sociopath (ironically). Same thing in little league when I pitched and the ball hit someone and they cried i would laugh. I have no idea why this is but the point is that you lack empathy for people you don’t know and often prefer to be alone (at least the case for me) not that you have no emotion at all or truly don’t care about anyone. Maybe 4% of the population are sociopaths but they aren’t all emotionless.

        • Ash

          Hey John, are you Thomas or a new guy ? The thing is, the definition of a psychopath is emotionless. Not a little emotion – nothing at all. I have a lot of friends that laugh at the misfortune of other people, heck even myself have done so in the past. It doesn’t necessarily make you a psychopath. I don’t know though, I’ve seen serial killers that cry about some of the people they killed. I don’t think psychology has all the answers yet.

    • Oh No

      Most sociopaths are not violent. I don’t know if that is comforting to hear. The writer mentions the author above – she might be helpful in getting you to understand yourself in a way others don’t.

    • Judas1

      Why do you do anything if you “could not care less”? You’re a liar. If anyone or anything was truly irrelevant to you then you would not be reaching out for attention with a pathetic trim attempt to diminish, malign, or put others down. Crawl back into your hole and kill yourself, asshole.

      • jjjjjjjjjjj

        Sociopaths ARE infact liars. Your correct. Dumb fuck

    • anonymous 7777

      ‘Thomas’ may or may not be a sociopath (which definitionally is the same thing as a psychopath) but I suspect he is also a ‘troll’ blemishing another’s hotmail account, or setting someone up to be hurt for kicks which, in fact, happens to be sociopathic behavior in and of itself.

  • Aquarius

    So scary .. You really never know who people are , and with increasing shootings and acts of random violence it looks like these so called sociopaths are going unnoticed until its too late

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Khaos-Krow/564684642 Khaos Krow

      So what would you propose we do about it? Lock them up over a condition they were born with and have no control over?

  • Oh No

    My own father is a sociopath. He is now incarcerated (about 25 years after he should’ve been). Even now in prison, nothing dampers his spirit or sense of adventure. He is filled with wild dreams, is highly intelligent, but does not exude an ounce of remorse for anyone he has ever hurt. To me he has been nice but there’s no doubt in my mind he lacks a normal conscience. Thankfully I take after my mother.

  • anon

    Michael E. Wise from Kirkland, Il is an extremely narcissistic sociopath who will ruin your life. Run, don’t walk away from this psycho.

  • Missy D

    They are pathological liars and true manipulators. My experience mirrors dozens of others that I have read. Dr. Stout’s book truly opened my eyes to the red flags that may clue the normal people in to the fact that the person they are dealing with is a sociopath. Be vigilante in our dealings with other people and keep educating yourself. It is the only way to live free of these people.

  • jjjjjjjjjjj

    Almost every post is irrelevant to the last. The only person you here talking is yourselves. You all just speak without listening. Like a group of fucking chimpanzees hollering

  • Hybrid

    I think I might be a hybrid. I could care less about other people, but I love my family. I used to kill lizards and stuff as a kid till I got a bb gun and shot other animals like birds and squirrels. The first squirrel I shot grabbed itself in the chest(where I shot it) like “ahh you got me” and then fell out of the tree. I felt a jolt go through me and thought “seemed human”, then I kept on killing animals. People regularly call me heartless and thoughtless, but I don’t feel like doing the “cultural” gestures that people expect(lazy?). I like to be direct and too the point and I think it angers most people I don’t pity them verbally when they complain, but I think it is pointless. What do you say when someone tells you their spouse died in a car accident? All I can think to say is “did he have insurance?”. Does that make me a bad person? I look at things from a glass half full, and I am not afraid to tell you where the bear shits in the woods. I can’t help it if society is full of people freaking out. I could kill a whole family and go on a shooting spree , but what is the point? I think people fear what they don’t know. If you don’t know psychopaths you shouldn’t just say they will kill you and eat you as soon as look at you, unless it does make sense/gain a profit to kill you. I think serial killers just have fucked up sexual childhoods and get a release by raping/killing than playing games and jacking off. Kind of like that guy who goes from jacking to auto erotic choking. Like an appetite.

  • scorpio953

    Psychopaths commit murder without giving a thought to their actions. They don’t think that anyone will catch them. It’s the next step up from a Sociopath but with no conscience or soul.

  • throatcutter

    How bout u bitches shut the fuck up before I leave u full of stab wounds u ain’t shit just ashes 50 years from now lmaao

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Khaos-Krow/564684642 Khaos Krow

      ^a random angsty teenager appears!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Khaos-Krow/564684642 Khaos Krow

    Not all sociopaths are criminals, just saying.

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