Supreme Court Upholds Obamacare … AS A TAX

 

In 2009, Obama said that his healthcare reform bill is not a tax:

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(And see this.)

The Supreme Court just upheld Obamacare … as a TAX:

A divided Supreme Court largely upheld the Obama administration’s health-care law, saying the law’s penalty for those who ignore a mandate to carry health insurance counted as a tax and was justified by Congress’s constitutional taxing power.

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  • Tobias Eriksson

    First of all, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue.

    It is a scientific fact that these brutes (the American populace) must be governed by a sovereign who treats them based on the Laws of Nature: like animals – the herd is incapable of thinking or rationalizing what is in their best interests.

    According to English philosopher Thomas Hobbes (1588 – 1679), the sovereign has several important functions: he decides all issues of right and wrong, importantly, without any external reference to religion or political argument – this is the essence of sovereignty. There is no standard above sovereign’s decision, no divine law, no human rights, no moral rights that could annul his decision. This should be so in order that all disagreements among (groups of) subjects be cut short. He can decide anything at all, rules of arithmetic, meaning of words, etc. The sovereign also punishes, including with death, those who disobey in order to make agreements possible and enforceable (in contrast to the situation in the state of nature).

    Summarizing: Americans are indeed a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue.

    • Wullow

      Your opening assertion is exactly the same as your ending summary. I suppose it was necessary to paste quotations in the middle to bolster those bookends.

      Regardless, your assertion is not worth refuting. Yes, most people here in the US are bleating sheep. So what? That doesn’t make “the sovereign” any less evil.

      • Congress has a 10 pc approval rating and its been extraordinarily low since Clinton. Government has the guns and the USA military is all too glad to execute and torture Americans just like Iraqis. That makes Americans smart, but cowards.

        Right now the American military which in reality is run by the City of London and England which controls the USA with an Iron fist, is Goliath. Only Russia or China can defeat the Pentgram 666 Beast.

        Thomas Hobbes was an Anglosaxon supremacist, an agnostic, and a extreme loyalist to the English crown and its absolute Authority. No one takes his writings seriously except the people in London who unfortunately are running the world. That would be the Windsors and Rothschilds and their royal Sycophants like Hobbes, or in this day and Age, Bush, Kerry, and Al Gore, all close relatives of Prince Charles.

        Hobbes was a notorious sexual pervert and found of young boys , which is common to all English elites from Oxford and Cambridge to this day.

        Most people the commoners you berate, are smart enough to know Machiavelli is a synonym for evil yet in the modern age he is lionized as the apex of political philosophy. Hobbes was his poor understudy.

        Why don’t you quote Hobbes last words on his death bed, ‘a great leap into the dark’ which is a summation really of his entire turgid and morally bankrupt political philosophy. You would have to be morally bankrupt and very stupid to buy into it or a royal boot licker.

        Christ was more accurate describing people as sheep needing a good shepard, he did not say the sheep were there for the slaughter.

        People would do well to heed the Bible where the God enjoins the nations to not have Sovereigns. No King by Jesus Christ and no laws but his. Our country was sort of founded on that old fashioned notion and not Hobbes or Machiavelli or George the 3 or the present ruling world Monarch Prince Charles as mum and dad have gone senile and have handed the English empire which is the NWO over to him to run. Prince Charles has declared himself ‘Savior of the World’. Look it up its all over the internet.

        Nothing good has come out of England, at least since before the time of Henry Tudor. Henry Tudor was a unique King and he marked the formal alliance between the Jews and English to rule the globe. He also instituted the modern income tax and put the army behind it to enforce it. He was of Jewish and Anglosaxon extraction. Every Head of State of England since has Been Jewish and Anglosaxon. Kate Middleton is after all a Tudor and Goldsmith.

        You would be surprised to know people of Anglosaxon/English extraction are only 8 percent of the USA and only Anglosaxon tend to be impressed with the so called intellectualism of Anglosaxons. I’m not at all. You cant even name a decent English composer, or mathematician and most of the great so called English writers were Celts.

        Why don’t you quote Bertrand Russell he wrote the Treatise for world government for the NWO for Prince Phillip and the Royal gang of terrorist running the West. At least get the right Anglosaxon, madman philosopher for the right century.

        “I do not pretend that birth control is the only way in which population can be kept from increasing… War… has hitherto been disappointing in this respect, but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full… The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of that? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other people’s… There are three ways of securing a society that shall be stable as regards population. The first is that of birth control, the second that of infanticide or really destructive wars, and the third that of general misery except for a powerful minority…”
        – Bertrand Russell, THE IMPACT OF SCIENCE ON SOCIETY 1953

  • gozounlimited

    “How do I know I’ve made it in this world if I’m not able to enjoy something others can’t?

    Commentary by Jocelyn Chao
    I Don’t Want Health Care If Just Anyone Can Have It

    Lack of access to health care is the seventh leading cause of death in the country, and that says something. It doesn’t get much more elite than being part of a club other people are literally dying to get into. So what incentive would there be if everyone were guaranteed equal health care, regardless of income, age, or employment status? Who would be left to proudly tell their grandchildren about the glory days of PPOs? That is a future I’d rather not imagine, thank you very much.

    read more: http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-dont-want-health-care-if-just-anyone-can-have-it,11294/
    ***********

    “Dying To Live”
    You know I’ve heard it said there’s beauty in distortion
    By some people who withdraw to find their head
    And they say that there is humor in misfortune
    No, I wonder if they’ll laugh when I am dead…

    see video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o5LWcNg9LI&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLE5971F4DF3185492

    • gozounlimited

      Unfortunately ….. your health dollars are being used to kill you softly and secretly……

      Big Pharma

      Natural Society wrote on the cancer industry’s shady behavior last year, when the Mayo Clinic declared that the last ten years’ worth of cancer research was moot due to fraud. In example, Boston University’s Sheng Wang’s cancer research contained altered results as well as misconduct. The psychiatric community is little better, with 70 percent of panel members for the fifth edition of Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) having financial relationships with pharmaceutical companies.

      Adverse Drug Reactions Cover-Up? 80,000 Drug Files Go ‘Unreported’ by Big Pharma

      read more: http://www.prisonplanet.com/adverse-drug-reactions-cover-up-80000-drug-files-go-%E2%80%98unreported%E2%80%99-by-big-pharma.html

  • PrissyPatriot

    GW, you failed to state how many of those will actually be paying such a “tax” 6% of mega millionaires who failed to provide such benefits for their workers. Example: Gas Station attendants, waitresses, security officers and other laborers. Taking reasonable care to protect the health of your employees is not only the right thing to do, it part of the cost of doing business here in America. The working and middle class consumer made them rich. There’s nothing wrong with that. They just need to stop biting the hand that truly feeds them. We have Medicare and its efficient. Government actually CAN do a few things right. If its so bad here, go someplace else and maybe you can appreciate the progress. Then you may actually want to read all of the healthcare plan before you diss it. Be sure who discover who insisted that it HAD to be a mandate when it really didn’t. A mandatory policy or you get fined. Excuse me? Drop your car insurance and see what happens. You can’t, because it’s illegal not to have it. While you are at, stop paying your homeowners insurance-just don’t live next to me.

  • IRS will impose a tax penalty on those who do not secure health care coverage of some sort. It begins in 2014. Most people already have it so they will not have any different experience than they already are having.

    Texas has the most uninsured people, and the most oil riches.

  • Wullow

    When that letter comes telling you when and how you must sign up for obamacare, wouldn’t it be fun to simply ignore it? If enough people did that, the State would be up to its ass with cases. Same with income tax, but that would be harder to rally people around.

  • Matty in Florida

    No, the penalty is not a “tax” – it is a fine for disobeying the Order to shell out for a private, for-proffit financial product – whose cost is not a tax, either, because TAX GOES TO THE GOVERNMENT – not straight into INSURANCE RACKET wallets!

    And no, most Americans – already with health care “insurance” – won’t notice any difference at all: they’ll simply continue to die, by the tens of thousands – and be bankrupted, by the hundreds of thousands – each year by HealthCare COSTS NOT COVERED under their wonderful “insurance”.

    And no, it’s not going to be “fun” to TELL ALL THESE ASSHOLES – the Insurance Industry and USG, alike – to GO FUCK YOURSELVES, rather than buy some dogshit “POLICY” (no guarantee of actual Health CARE, at all – go back and WATCH “SICKO”, if you weren’t paying attention the first time) however, it WILL be our DUTY TO OPPOSE THIS – with every means each of us can summon/afford – as an assault not just on the Constitution, but on Human Freedom, itself.

    Because being forced to “CONTRACT” UNDER DURESS is Slavery, pure and simple. And tell me where TF, in the phrase “Give me Liberty, or Give Me Death” do you find “oh – er, or also I’ll Settle for DogShit Health Insurance”? FUCK YOU!

    NO CONTRACT UNDER COERCION!

    Semper Fi,

    -Matty in Florida

  • Sofla

    If the personal mandate and penalty for not obeying it WERE a tax, the high court could not have heard a lawsuit on that issue. Reason? No tax can be sued over until it takes effect, and someone has been subjected to paying it. Before that, it’s a moot question.

    That was the reason one of the lower courts threw out the lawsuit on that matter. They said it was a tax, and that the 19th century law the Anti-Injunction Act forbade anyone suing on that until it took effect.

    The Supreme Court knows this bit of law, and found it was NOT a tax, to even begin addressing the lawsuits’ appeals at all. Otherwise, they’d have tossed that part of the lawsuits and not considered that question whatsoever.

    The only one saying it was ‘like’ a tax was Roberts. The liberal four judges wanted to accept it under the Commerce Clause power, but went along with Roberts’ strained reasoning that it was kinda like a tax, so the taxation power justified it as Constitutional. The four justices in dissent did not think it was a tax (again, or else they’d have thrown out the suit pertaining to it under the Anti-Injunction Act, which remains binding law).

    So, Roberts himself held it was NOT a tax (like all the other justices), but ENOUGH LIKE A TAX to pass Constitutional muster. Semantics and legalistic formulations which do not make it so.

    As you must ask an attorney what language in a contract means, the cloistered world of the SCOTUS is not particularly clear as to what they talk about means. It requires a translator.

  • Like the US governments, country’s Supreme Court is also controlled by invested lobby groups. How many Americans know that four of the 9-person US Sureme Court represents 2% of US Jewish population? One of them, Elena Kagan, an Obama appointee, has ties with Goldman Sachs Israel lobby groups such as Brookings Institute and Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), an AIPAC off-shoot. Kagan was quoted as saying in February 2010: “Hizbullah builds bombs. Hizbullah also builds homes. What Congress decided was when you help Hizbullah build homes, you’re also helping Hizbullah build bombs. That’s the entire theory behind the statue”.

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/08/11/tale-of-three-american-women/

  • windcatcher

    The Robert’s Supreme Court has no credibility. They are all Traitors to our Democracy and Constitution and have set themselves up as the Fathers to a new corporate/government Fascist Nation. Look how stupid puppet Robert’s is, like Alberto Gonzales, he can’t carry on an intelligent logical discussion let alone make a critical decision. Bring the Traitors to Justice! The Mafia was the originators of the insurance racket and insurance should be nationalized for the general good health of the nation Simple and honest, take the racket out of insurance and everyone’s premium drops and benefits increase. Eliminate the criminal’s juice and health care mathematically becomes very affordable. It’s the feeding of the parasite that makes health care expensive and of course, kills it’s host, not cure the host Kill the parasite not the host! Cut off their juice!