Bin Laden: Everyone Is Missing the Big Picture

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Obama and Romney Are Both Ignoring the Real Issue with Killing Bin Laden

The anniversary of Bin Laden’s death is big news.

Obama is bragging about how he whacked Bin Laden, accusing Romney of being too soft to take out bad guys.

Romney supporters accuse Obama of “spiking the football” and inappropriately showing off to score political points.

Both sides are missing the big picture.    Specifically, we noted last year:

I’m as happy as the next red-blooded American that Bin Laden is dead.

For more than a decade, the government has said that Bin Laden is the world’s worst terrorist, a terrorist kingpin, the head of the worst terrorist group in the world.

But if we captured and interrogated him, he could have spilled a lot of beans which would help prevent future terrorist attacks.

Right?

But as the Atlantic reports today:

There’s one option the administration appears to have never seriously considered: taking bin Laden alive.

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The administration had made clear to the military’s clandestine Joint Special Operations Command that it wanted bin Laden dead, according to a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the discussions. A high-ranking military officer briefed on the assault said the SEALs knew their mission was not to take him alive. ***

And Gareth Porter reported yesterday that the U.S. didn’t even consider capturing Bin Laden as part of its Afghanistan war strategy:

The absence of any military planning to catch bin Laden was a function of Bush’s national security team, led by Vice-President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld, which had firmly opposed any military operation in Afghanistan that would have had any possibility of catching bin Laden and his lieutenants.Rumsfeld and the second-ranking official at the Pentagon, Paul Wolfowitz, had dismissed CIA warnings of an al Qaeda terrorist attack against the United States in the summer of 2001, and even after 9/11 had continued to question the CIA’s conclusion that bin Laden and al Qaeda were behind the attacks.

Cheney and Rumsfeld were determined not to allow a focus on bin Laden to interfere with their plan for a U.S. invasion of Iraq to overthrow the Saddam Hussein regime.

Even after Bush decided in favour of an Afghan campaign, CENTCOM commander Tommy Franks, who was responsible for the war in Afghanistan, was not directed to have a plan for bin Laden’s capture or to block his escape to Pakistan. [Background.]

We tortured a bunch of innocent farmers, children, grandparents and reporters … supposedly to get information about Bin Laden. But it doesn’t seem like the government was very interested in actually interrogating Bin Laden himself.

We pointed out the next day:

The Christian Science Monitor reports today:

Some US military intelligence officials also lament that bin Laden was not taken alive – and privately wonder whether concerns about the political “headaches” involved in trying detainees may have led the Obama administration to favor killing rather than capturing the architect of 9/11.

The opportunity to glean valuable intelligence from the leader of a powerful terrorist organization was lost, says retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who interrogated generals under the command of Saddam Hussein and evaluated US detention operations at Guantánamo.

It is a misconception that ideologues don’t talk, he says. “The opinion that, ‘Oh, he’s such a fanatic, he won’t tell us anything’ – that’s uninformed blathering by people who don’t understand the business,” Herrington adds.

The Christian Science Monitor article also confirms that torture doesn’t work to produce actionable intelligence, and points out that even Bin Laden could have been made to talk if other interrogation techniques were used.

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The ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee. – Senator Chambliss – says that the executive order stated that Bin Laden should be killed ….

As we noted in 2008, Bin Laden was useful to the U.S. as a prop in the so-called war on terror:

Former deputy national intelligence officer for transnational threats, a 23-year senior CIA analyst, who “drafted or was involved in many of the government’s most senior assessments of the threats facing our country [and who] devoted years to understanding and combating the jihadist threat”, writes today in the Washington Post that the neocons have whipped us into an irrational fear of the terrorism. In reality, “Osama bin Laden and his disciples are small men and secondary threats whose shadows are made large by our fears” and our leaders.

This is no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention. The BBC produced a documentary called The Power of Nightmares in 2005 that showed that politicians were greatly exaggerating the terrorist threat for political ends.

Indeed, we noted in 2009:

A United States Congressman claims that the Bush administration intentionally let Bin Laden escape in order to justify the Iraq war.

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Many people claim that Bin Laden died a long time ago. According to Israeli intelligence, Pakistani intelligence, and other sources, Bin Laden is dead.

According to video experts and and top Bin Laden experts, recent Bin Laden videos are fake.

So if Bin Laden is alive, American leaders have to explain why they have repeatedly chosen not to pull the trigger.

And if he is dead, they have to explain why they are claiming that he’s alive and authenticating his videos.

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  • Fatboy

    bin Laden won. His stated goal was to bring about the financial collapse of the U.S., have two men waving a flag and calling themselves al Qaeda and the U.S would spend billions to kill those two men, and others. bin Laden showed what could be done.

  • http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/ Dredd

    The Navy has been subverted to believe that bin Laden was alive, and that global warming is real, not a hoax.

  • http://ironymous.wordpress.com/ nomad

    “The ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee. – Senator Chambliss – says that the executive order stated that Bin Laden should be killed ….”

    Either he was already dead, like other intel sources said and the killing was theatrics to enable some type of political manipulation. Or he was being silenced. In either case it is malfeasance.

  • nomdeguerre

    I hope you allow cross posting:

    What, for the 9th time?!

    Where was his dialysis machine? That old man sitting down watching television was supposed to be him? Why did they only show a side picture of him alive? What about his millions, the facilities were quite modest?

    Then that video of that chap with a short dyed beard?? That was him? That’s funny, he didn’t look like the other OBL’s in the other videos. Of course none of them looked alike either.

    They had to keep the short, fat one with the squashed nose taking credit for 9/11 sitting down – otherwise, the fraud would have been too obvious.

    Sorry, the numerous sources were correct, OBL died of natural causes in December 2001. Don’t fall for propaganda. Individuals determine their truths EMOTIONALLY, put your emotions aside, look at the facts.

    Report: Bin Laden Already Dead: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

    http://www.corbettreport.com/osama-bin-laden-pronounced-dead-for-the-ninth-time/

    Did bin Laden die again?: http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.php

    From Paul Craig Roberts:

    Osama bin Laden’s Second Death: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2011/05/02/osama-bin-ladens-second-death/ Creating the bin Laden Reality: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2011/05/13/creating-the-bin-laden-reality/ How Many SEALs Died?: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2011/05/17/how-many-seals-died/

    The above is from http://occupywallst.org/forum/may-1st-is-a-great-day-its-the-day-a-year-ago-that/#comment-678116

    This is beyond fake news. They (the mysterious THEY, the powers that be) hire actors, pass off novels as reality, etc. And the lying pussbrains of the so-called press report it straight. I guess they expect us to keep eating the grass, keep eating the grass, keep eating the grass, keep . . .

  • http://none Terry

    Plain and simple. A third world county kicked the USA ass for more than 9 years while our puppets, The military, did little to stop the flow of amunition and explosives from coming into Afganistan and Iraq. Yes we took out the sadmanwhowasinsain. Whoopie. This war was for Ratheon, Boeing, Northrup, and British Petroleum. Those enemy soldiers kicked our ass and they will continue to do so.. I salute our hard working soldiers on the ground and only ask that the privates be allowed to run the war effort..

  • paul joseph

    Oh jeez, here we go again helping the spokes models on the teevee to fill in some dead air time between SCOTUS pontifications and a bunch of soon-to-be lame duckers in Congress screw us a few more times before they retire to oblivion.

    The Dems and the MSM allowed the know-nothings to frame the ’04 election around this boogeyman till everyone shivered at the mention of his name. Now that he’s deader than a doornail, there’s this push by Obama and then the inevitable blowback by the dead enders about how we are still supposed to be enthralled by Bin Laden. Give me a break. It’s time to move on to the next nonsensical fear that’s going to foisted on us as a distraction. This one is long past due.

  • Matty in Florida

    Everybody, but EVERYBODY can by now see clearly the “BinLaden Did 9/11″ story was fake. THAT is the reason he was never captured, nor interrogated – lest he prove it a fake!

    So, now CONNECT the LAST DOTS:

    - SOMEONE(S) ELSE must have masterminded (the things which actually DID happen, on) 9/11

    - There is precious LITTLE INDICATION that these persons were even Muslims – much less Fundamentalist Jihadis – from ANY other country(ies)

    - There is SUBSTANTIVE EVIDENCE that these persons were closely connected to THE PENTAGON, to CIA and to the OWNERS OF THE WTC COMPLEX (i.e., Silverstein & crew).

    9/11 was precisely The AMERICAN REICHSTAG FIRE – for exactly the same purposes, and with largely the same result – also by now clearly apparent.

    Got FASCISM?

    Semper Fi,

    -Matty in Florida

    • john

      Spoken so well Matty the the true criminals are in the white house federal agencies Rome and the top zillionaires who fund catastrophe around the world

  • http://rehmat1.com/ Rehmat

    Osama Bin Laden, like a cat, must have seven lives!

    Amer Taheri, wrote in the New York Times Op-Ed (July 11, 2002): “Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan’s president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama’s gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama’s ghost alive or because they have no means of communication”.

    Interestingly, even the Israelis who masterminded the 9/11 – believe Osama Bin Laden is dead, as reported by Jane’s on December 27, 2002.

    Over eight years ago, Pakistan’s former military dictator and a great friend of both the US and Israel, Gen. Pervez Musharaf, in an interview he gave to CNN, had said: “I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a kidney patient. I don’t know if he has been getting all that treatment in Afghanistan now. And the photographs that have been shown of him on television show him extremely weak. I would give the first priority that he is dead”.

    “I don’t know where he is. I have no idea and I really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority,” said Dubya George Bush on March 13, 2002.

    Benazir Bhutto had also claimed that Osama Bin Laden is dead.

    “When you hear a threat which is “probably” made by bin Laden, just remember that he’s “probably” dead. Also think about who benefits from your believing he’s alive,” What Really Happened website which was hacked just moment before Obama fired the latest lie.

    http://rehmat1.com/2011/05/02/obama-kills-osama-again/

  • Matty in Florida

    Everybody, but EVERYBODY can by now see clearly the “BinLaden Did 9/11″ story was fake. THAT is the reason he was never captured, nor interrogated – lest he PROVE it a fake!

    So, now CONNECT the LAST DOTS:

    - SOMEONE(S) ELSE must have masterminded (the things which actually DID happen, on) 9/11

    - There is precious LITTLE INDICATION that these persons were even Muslims – much less Fundamentalist Jihadis – from ANY other country(ies)

    - There is SUBSTANTIVE EVIDENCE that these persons were closely connected to THE PENTAGON, to CIA and to the (then-) OWNERS OF THE WTC COMPLEX.

    9/11 was precisely The AMERICAN REICHSTAG FIRE – for exactly the same purposes, and with largely the same result – also by now clearly apparent.

    Got FASCISM?

    Semper Fi,

    -Matty in Florida

  • Lois Gagnon

    There is nothing real left in this empire of lies. It’s ALL FAKE!

 

 

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