Russia and China Would Consider An Attack On Iran – Or Syria – As An Attack On Their National Security
RT notes:
The escalating conflict around Iran should be contained by common effort, otherwise the promising Arab Spring will grow into a “scorching Arab Summer,” says Dmitry Rogozin, Russia’s deputy prime minister and former envoy to NATO.
“Iran is our close neighbor, just south of the Caucasus. Should anything happen to Iran, should Iran get drawn into any political or military hardships, this will be a direct threat to our national security,” stressed Rogozin.
Here’s what Rogozin is talking about (notice how close the Southern tip of Russia is to Northern Iran):
While many Americans still believe that our government would not be crazy enough to attack Iran, economic – not national security – considerations may be driving the warmongers.
In addition, Iran and Syria have had a mutual defense pact for years. And China and Russia might also defend Syria if it is attacked. So an attack on Syria could draw Iran into the war … followed by China and Russia.
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Have you seen this: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/220979.html
Iran target of ‘false flag’ strategy?
Perry asserts: “[an] Iranian attack on an American military vessel will serve as a justification and a pretext for a retaliatory move by the US military against the Iranian regime.” However, Perry identifies “a US aircraft carrier” as the likely target of this imagined Iranian attack.
We beg to differ. There are major indications that the vessel of choice is to be the USS Vincennes. The fourth USS Vincennes (CG-49) is a US Navy Ticonderoga class Aegis guided missile cruiser. On July 3, 1988, the ship shot down Iran Air Flight 655 over the Persian Gulf, killing all 290 civilian passengers on board, including 38 non-Iranians and 66 children.
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According to reports, Ahmadi Roshan had recently met International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors, a fact which indicates that the IAEA has leaked information about Iran’s nuclear facilities and scientists. (This statement is all over the net without any citation)
the title should have been
“Russia and China Would Consider An Attack On Iran – Or Syria – As An Attack On Their National Security”
not Iran And China…..
Typo. Headline 2, word 1. Cheers.
It is now impossible to find, but there was a straight threat against the USA, involving use of nuclear weapons, should there be a tsunami on the Chinese coastal cities. This was issued after Aceh, from the PLA General officer in charge of the Military Academy.
Fukushima may not have been natural, but it is not clear that the perpetrator was the same as in Aceh. The increased reliance of Japan on hydrocarbon fuel is noted.
Project Seal discovered much of the mechanics of tsunami propagation in 1945, preparatory to invading Japan.
Glad to see your blog back to its fine standards!
If I weren’t such a stupid American, this would probably mean something.
then leave and go to Europe where you’re most likey to find those more similar to you…
Sir, before you make remarks about my part of the world, take a moment and look in your own back yard. The greediest nation on earth, now on the brink! You are morally and financially bankrupt run by totally corrupt billionaires. You have been blessed again with vast amounts of new oil and gas so just butt out and sort out your own mess.
You must be one of those “Love it or leave it! America is the greatest country ever!!” types… the most brainwashed of us all.
This is a very good indication that Russia and China are planning a 3rd World War against America and Europe. And they have always wanted to destroy the Great American Empire. Plus, the New World Order International Bankers/Illuminati/Freemasonry/Catholic Jesuits/Jewish Zionist also want there to be a World War 3; because they are genocidal eugenicist who want to decrease the population of the Earth; so that they can bring about their One World Satanic Government, that will enslave most of the whole world. But in the end; the Great God of Heaven will have them all spitting out fire and brimstone forever and ever. As the human soul and spirit never dies or ceases to exist!! Never!!
exscue me but since when Russia and China planning the attack? it is well known that the US are planning this.. get the real information and stop accusing Rissia and China!
I do not consider that Russia and China are planning to attack. These countries have no reasons to burst, they are in economic growth, they have natural resources… if there will be the 3rd ww, it will be caused by the Group who controls the world, called itself Bilderberg, of which most of all are Freemasons, Illuminati bankers, monarchs and politicians . They want to rise the conflict in order to create their new world order : one world government .
Whether you are American, European, Arab, Russian or Chinese, we have to stay united, fight for our rights and be aware.
And the other blogger calls himself bat sh_t crazy…
Americans ( or should I say white western oligarchy that portrait of white supremacy
), can’t stand to see the balance of world power emerge in an area where they are not welcome. For the last several years within the discussion regarding geo-politics one question that would seemingly always rise was “what are we goning to do about China”. White males talk shows such as CNN and MSNBC would always feature a host throwing those concerns out were as those listening would fear China. White americans need to get use to the fact that the world no longer look to them as being “all about that”. It is time to eat crow and enjoy that you can get that. That old line that “it is a threat to our national security” is not something that is asigned only to the U.S or her NATO posse.
Ah, the “Evil White” Americans. Devils, right? Only the white man is evil. Never mind that EVERY RACE, Nationality, and Religion has committed genocide against others, and THEIR OWN as well! You are a racist and a fool!
Well said Steve. Looks to me like Divide and Conquer is going as planned
Thanks Tyrone! The question is, will humanity ever move beyond violence and evil, and finally live in peace? I certainly hope so! But I won’t be holding my breath, either! MOst likely not until ideas such as “Government”, “Religion”, “Race” ( the idea that we are all different), are discarded for newer, higher ideals, and ways of thinking!
The US should consider that their track record of attacking little nations like Libya may not be good preparation for going against a country of 77 million with an advanced military and a unified population.
I would hope that Obama and others has good sense not to mess with Iran. Look at the other countries that went to war with Iran. The United States can not defeat Russia or China much less both together. Our news media should do stories on the militaries Russia, China and Japan. Most, Americans have no ideas about the militaries of these countries.
I doubt there would be any war.. they just want people to be scared and the americans to be scared of attacking but in reality it would set off a chain of events that would be the possible end of the world so i dont see it happening.
First, don’t forget China wants to be the next country to have their currency as the worlds reserve currency replacing the US Dollar. China and Russia have been building up their militarys for decades, while keeping quiet on the sidelines waiting for the time is right. China, Russia, and Iran have been making trial runs at sabotaging the US infrastructures. If they succeed in destroying the US power grid first, then well, chaos and total collapse within the US. Then China and Russia’s militarys can invade at will. It can happen more ways than one, however, if they choose to take on the US and its Allies head on toe to toe, well it most likely won’t end well for China, Russia, and Iran.
Complete fear propaganda by Russia. Neither Russia or Chinas army can match the highly advanced US forces unless the went nuclear in which everyone looses. They all know this and it’s the LAST thing either side wants. Doesnt mean they won’t make threats……
What a bunch of BS……
HA HA so you think the U.S can defeat China?
China can kick ass and along with russia they will
just like they did in Vietnam
Remember who was backing the North vietnamese?
Don’t forget, the US won that war, the Viet Cong capitulated and signed the Paris peace treaty. Of course, after the impeachment of Nixon, foreign and military policy were taken over by the Congress & News propagandists.
But the war was won by the US!
It all depends on how you would define “Winning”.. More Americans died in the Viet. War than in any other war in American history!!! At the end of the day, we did NOT get anything out of that war except deficit ! Same thing will happen if you go to war with Iran..
have a good day DUDE lol
Russia by itself can handle USA all the way!! Now imagine, China & Iran & Syria & hamas & Hezbullah join them! Imagine all the other terrorist groups join them!!!? Now what?
You don’t think that far because the media ave you brainwashed lit’ kid!!! Iran is no Iraq.. is 5 times bigger.. and just FYI America did NOT win the Iraq war.. all we got was having Saddam killed.. that’s it!!!!
you’re simply uneducated.. and you have no idea what kinda BS you’re posting my man.. go READ READ READ… average reading time is 3 minutes per day in America ranked 27th in the world.. I think that shows something statistically ..
When I give the orders for the U.S. fleet of Trident Submarines to launch against all targets in both Russia and China. It will be the end of the Chinks and the Russians. I will then order a neutron bomb attack on Iran. I will give orders for Massive B-2 Nuclear strike on North Korea. I will then watch the nation of Pakistan crap thier pants, and in turn give up thier nukes.
Admiral Chester Nimitz, U.S.N.
The USA has no say in the matter. Israel wants another war and the United States is going to give it to them.
What war did the Israelis want?????????
They fought to defend themselves. But want????
They want to be left alone. But they will fight to defend themselves, and neither Russia nor China will come in. Watch.
If the Russians were serious about protecting Iran then they would have given them the S300 missle system that Iran wanted. The S300 missle system would have complicated any potential Israeli or Americn airstrike.
@ rickrod
If russia had started supplying iran with s 300 systems the enemy or in this case nwo of judaic banks will have to escalate their end game more quickly.
Who knows? Perhaps the Russians gave them the system anyway? I mean, its not as if a government has ever said one thing in public and done precisely the opposite in private? You only have to look at the history of the Yanks, Brits and Israelites, etc down the years to see this tactic in action. Personally, I’d prefer it if the Iranians had it. It might just make the military option that much too had to carry out and force the belligerents to the negotiation table. I heard George Galloway once say that it was infinitely better to ”Jaw, jaw than to war, war”. I agree with him.
The Northern Army (Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, All the Arab Countries)
And its Allies Will Punish The English Speaking World & Israel
http://www.peterjamesx.com/Docs%202008/The%20Northern%20Army.htm
The only and best way dealing with Iran is change of Iranian regime is in hands of the bright strong and intelligent young Iranians .. There is over 30 million almost half the population under the age of 30 years carrying strong voice and very brave .
Two years ago in Tehran alone 3 million people rushed to the street against the mullahaes ..
beyond anyones expectation .. !!
Man there were many worried and scarred Ayatalohaes shaving the beard and changing clothes packed to leave the country.. lol
This standoff and potential armed conflict poses a threat to not only the national interests of all countries, but also to lives of individual people throughout the world. I personally have not seen any evidence of an illegal nuclear weapons program in Iran, not even enough to substantiate a claim of probable cause and the issuance of a search warrant. Read the November 18, 2011 report from the IAEA and you’ll find only speculation and reference to an unknown “member state” that supplied an unknown cache of “documents” that raise “concnern”. One would think that the standard of proof for armed invasion would be much raise to a level higher and greater than speculation, conjecture, anonymous allegations, and unfounded accusations. Unfortuntely, things are sometimes only learned the hard way and I don’t see this ending well.
Agreed. The war mongers are out in force. Isn’t it strange that only one Presidential candidate speaks about it?
Iran already has several Russian S300 air defense systems, and they have been very busy reverse engineering them for producing a home built Iranian copy.
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/iran-official-we-have-obtained-the-s-300-missile-system-1.305954&sa=U&ei=hn4TT_jjArCUiQfLnYxD&ved=0CBcQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNFKln-LYeodgjtZTAunHGAN2ME_uQ
Make no mistake, Iran is not a nation of poor dim witted uneducated goat herders.
They are a wealthy oil rich modern technologically advanced nation, capable of taking over and landing America’s most modern and sophisticated surveillance drone.
America always makes the mistake of attacking small defenseless countries that have massive support from larger countries. Vietnam was a perfect example, and so was Iraq.
Iraq was totally destroyed by Desert Storm and had no functioning military when Bush illegally invaded . The mighty conquering US military machine should have rolled up Iraq in one week.
But a few rag head insurgents fought back and WON after ten years of warfare.
How ??? Because every nation on earth was pouring money, food, weapons, training, medical aid into Iraq which went directly to the insurgents.
Even countries like Australia and Canada were pouring aid into Iraq which directly put Americans into body bags. You will never read about that in the US press, but internet research will prove the real truth of the situation in Iraq.
Only Americans were sniped and road bombed, Australians and Canadians and all the other 27 nations that had uniformed military in Iraq were never attacked by insurgents.
An attack on Iran will just be a replay of Vietnam and Iraq.
China and Russia will pour money, weapons and aid into Iran even if they never become directly involved fighting the US military. It will go on for years, and will not be the sudden overwhelming victory Americans expect it to be.
If the whole thing goes nuclear, both Israel and America will cease to exist.
And so will every other nation on planet Earth.
And all because of Zionist plotting and lies, and the gullibility of the US public.
Is it really worth it ?
Of course it’s about money, it always is. The arms manufacturers of the world never lose do they. And if they start feeling the pinch, why just go pick a fight, problem solved. For them at least, it’s usually at the expense of the 99% who pay for it, with their lives and out of their pockets.
@RickRod
>>If the Russians were serious about protecting Iran then they would have given them the S300 missle system that Iran wanted. The S300 missle system would have complicated any potential Israeli or Americn airstrike.<<
What makes you think the Iranians did not receive vital bueprints and more of the S300 ?
Stupid Yanks! Win Afghanistan first. You're on your last legs.
GMB.
Time for Iranian special forces to clean up trouble in Syria.
GMB
Syria and Iran have already been attacked. They are being attacked and will continue under attack until the demise of their regimes. I do not buy the media frenzy on “who will shoot first”…stream media is misrepresenting facts in a time-line that prevents any reaction by the victims because they will became “the aggressors” China & Russia are perfect partners in this necrotic dance…
Syria not only has terrorist, mercenaries in their soil but has been invaded also with “observers” legalizing the mercenaries as opposition forces ! Iran, has lost two main depot of sunburn missiles and most of their scientific minds behind their missile program…plus another nuclear scientist lately…how the depot got busted out defines if Iran is at war or not? jajajaj masterpieces of deceit and deception, We ARE AT WAR …or not, just being witnesses of a massacre, ten times worse than Lybia while we eat popcorn, have some burgers, beers amidst the necrophilia propaganda broadcast by the media right there in our living rooms…
Any scenario of war with Russia and China, the US would lose and should not look for a number of its European allies to stand with it. The world is beyond tired of the Zionists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OPIc5jY2T0
T. West
CART/AfriSynergy
Dear BS Detector,
You should not be smoking that stuff.
“Neither Russia or Chinas army can match the highly advanced US forces”
America has not won a war in at least 65 years, (and in that one they had the Russians to thank for the eastern front, otherwise they would still be fighting the Germans.) You could not even beat the Somalis.Iran is not Grenada.
There are 324 million “women” in the PLA, now add the men and see what you think will happen.
Russia took just 3 days to invade and sort out Georgia, including the American and Israeli mercenaries.
With the whole of NATO and over 11,00 bombing missions, you needed Qatari forces and Al Quaeda to beat the Libyan people, and it took more than 6 months.
I know that it is nice and warm, and makes you feel safe with your head stuck up your A****, but take it out for a while, it significantly improves your vision.
The fact that Russia and China don’t have much in the way of aircraft carriers that could transports bombers. The only way to make Americans want to stop war if their cities were firebombed. If the US forces were tied upand they could hit with bombers and submarines and hit New York City they could make the Americans see what war war all about. We have bases all over the place in Europe. China and Russia have none in this hemisphere and we probably wouldn’t allow any. If we wouldn’t allow any I don’t know why they allow us to put all those bases in Europe.
…pst, just heard about a new weapon being developed called missiles.
It is very true- usa has a large army, navy and airforce and some say superior tech. So did hitler in operation barbarosa, largest battle in world history*ever*..almost 90percent of all nazi troops Plus italy and other allies–their best were sent to kill the slavic race …they failed…
–66 years later instead of mutual cooperation with russia, on space exploration, tech medicine ect.. they still want to take over its vast resources. Russians are very happy people, they love to party and drink and are very educated…but when they go into war for the motherland it aint a *joke* they are extremely patriotic and ruthless killers. And the wolrd community needs russia more than they think.
It is true, America (by itself) has not won any single war over the last sixty five years.
It has however been involved in wars where America has been aided by other nations and won.
Desert Storm is the most recent example of that.
Fifty nations under the UN flag booted Saddam out of Kuwait, a great victory. But when America invaded and occupied Iraq a second time aided only for a short time by Britain, America has now lost that war too.
Yet Americans imagine their military (portrayed by Hollywood) as being invincible, the real truth of history is very different.
These days America is without friends or allies anywhere. Even Britain has now had enough, and cowardly little Israel has never fought beside America in any of it’s wars…… ever.
Do you seriously believe that America can successfully wage war against Iran, China, and Russia combined ?
Both Russia and China have pledged military support for Iran, and that pledge should not be taken lightly. The combined resources of those three huge technically advanced nuclear armed nations should not be underestimated.
The globalist are doing everything they can to provoke an attack by Iran possibly at a naval vessel. Iran cannot sink the USS Vincennes CG-49 because she was decommissioned on 29 June 2005 at San Diego. As of 2008 she was slated for scrapping within the next five years.
Hey Putin, go F _ _ K yourself you communist piece of dog shit.
I think he will be f#cking you soon enough you big mouthed ignorant ape!
You to the doctor did not try to address?
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Russia and China ought to be concerned. If your country doesn’t have a privately owned central bank you are a target. The public in the west has been programmed and dumbed down to the point they cannot figure out that the globalists have looted their countries through the banks and corrupted finanical system. At some point they will figure it out and that is why the globalists are formenting small wars to provoke a third world war. A huge war will rally the masses around their leaders and flag and make them forget about the pillaging of their respective nations. The masses need to be distracted and culled by a war so that the globalist program can reach it’s logical conclusion of a one world government. The globalists have been at this game for decades if not centuries and are quite prepared to tough it out in underground cities financed and paid for by the masses. This all plays into their philosophy of order out of chaos.
John,
A huge war will mean thousands of Fukushimas across the entire globe.
A very quick fiery death for billions, and an only slightly slower and much more miserable death for the rest of us.
This can now only end one way unless the US backs right off, which isn’t going to happen.
Iran has repeatedly threatenned both Israel and the U.S., and there is great reason to suspect Iran as being the major funding for Alqueada, even in the 911 attacks…One court even found Iran financially liable for 911 attacks……The US. andIsrael have the right to defend ourselves…..and threats of ww3 must never detour our resolve to defend ourselves…eventually, Iran would achieve the bomb and then the threat would re-emerge and war would follow, so why should we wait?
Come on now, friend.
You are the only person I’ve seen so far on these comments posting some half-assed attempt at justification for America’s actions.
Get with the picture. The Billingburg group, and the other lobbyists supporting the central bank of America were behind 9/11, not IRAN lol… not Al Queda.
This war is going to happen. I just hope it doesn’t happen before my sister gets out of the military, or she’s fucked. Then again, when it happens.. (and we need to realize we’re talking WW3 here, not Desert Storm, not Vietnam) We’re all fucked.
Yes that there. Give at once half of terrestrial ball in a flour…., for that to wait?
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we all know where this will all end up. Gloom>BOOM>Doom.
When the Shah of Iran was still in power over there the United States was a friend and ally to Iran. Just before 1979 and the revolution the U.S. sold them their top of the line fighter planes the F-14 tomcats. There are a lot of dissatisfied Iranians right now that want the current regime gone but do you know what will cause them to unite behind their leaders? An attack by the U.S. or Israel on Iran which will also draw in China and Russia. The U.S. should work with the dissident groups and support them. They are the best hope of getting rid of the leadership without blowing up the rest of the world. Once again Ron Paul is right.
What you see taking place now has been prophesied in the Bible long ago. In the last days, Russia and China will become mighty nations and will attempt to destroy Israel. The “crazy man from Iran” is attempting to bring in the reign of the 12th Imam (the antichrist), and in the end Yahweh, the God of the Bible will destroy the antichrist and all nations that follow him. Our only salvation comes through Jesus Christ, God’s only Son, who was willing to die on the cross for us and pay for our sins so that we can have eternal life in Heaven. Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin. Jesus paid that price. I didn’t say this. God said it in His Word, the Bible. If you have a personal relationship with Jesus, then you don’t have to worry about the end.
Ah, and your word of “God” (the bible), is the true word, while that other book, the Quran, is not? Hate to break the news, but BOTH were written by MEN. And have been (and will again be) the cause of much War and suffering. The whole idea of “Religion” is outdated and must be left behind if we are to ever evolve as a species. Organized religion was created as a means of CONTROL. While I most certainly believe in the Creator (God), I seek that Creator out on my own, and follow what the Creator tells my heart. NOT what any MAN, in some book that he has written, tells me I should do.
Yeah. Don’t go pulling the God card in a realistic conversation, please. That’s irrational and pathetic.
as they say “god didn’t creat man, man created god” By the way if you are religius, then you should now that the chriatianity is a copy of mithraism which existed between 600-2000 bc. in iran. and what you are preaching is a branch of zorastian caled mithraism and taged as chistianity, just google that. jesus reencarnation of mithra
First off I am not the “Tony of previous posts”. John Taylor I am having trouble understanding the word “formenting” I have never heard the word before can you tell me what it means?
Looks like there are some land and sea obstacles to both Russia and China landing troops in Iran. Do they have the capacity to do that?
that’s “Phantom”-sorry.
It wasn’t so long ago that the US helped overthrow the Democracy in Iran, and install their ally, the Shah. This enabled US influence and control over the oil supply in Iran., that the democratically elected nationalist Prime Minister was a threat to. This later in turn resulted in the overthrow of the Shah and the rise of the Ayatolahs. Who removed US control of the Iranian oil industry. They then backed and armed Saddam Hussein, who attacked Iran. After not being able to bring that war to a satisfactory conclusion, Saddam attacked Kuwait, threatening US oil supplies ultimately from Saudi Arabia and the other Emirates. So the Americans removed him. Now they are returning to the biggest resistance to US domination of the Middle East and it’s oil supply, Iran. Call me cynical if you like. hypnohotshot
Holistic Hypnosis & Hypnotherapy Los Angeles
The meaning of fomenting:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fomenting
Hey Bruce,
When I read your comment I did not know whether to laugh or cry.
Are you being deliberately provocative or are you abysmally misinformed? Iran has never threatened Israel or America, except in “if you attack Iran, you will suffer significant grief, as we will carry the war to you wherever you are.” (One cleric said that he wants the Zionist Regime to be wiped from the memory of man, and dumb Americans translated that to Wipe Israel off the map.)
Al Qaeda was created and funded by the CIA, it is still being used for USA purposes in Libya and Syria.
The court ruling on Iran and 911 has been pilloried by every American paper and TV channel, it is a joke.
South Africa had 6 atomic bombs, and did not attack anyone, Russia has thousands of nuclear weapons and has not attacked anyone, North Korea, China, Pakistan, India, Israel, France and Britain all have nuclear weapons, and have not used them. The only country to use nuclear weapons is the USA (and I include the Battle of Bagdad Airport) The only country that cannot be trusted with Nuclear Bombs is America.
Please do some research, beyond listening to your mainstream zionist media.
Islam is not a threat to world peace, IMF, BIS, Exxon, Bank of America (and their cohorts) are the problem.
Ah, someone with some real intelligence, and knowledge to back it up. This is what this conversation needed.
Let me just clarify though that civilians anywhere are not the cause of this mess. The majority of us know what we are taught, and thanks to the internet (I could side branch here about SOPA and the same warmongers are behind that but I wont) people are finally being able to branch out and really learn about the tyranny of this world. Any intelligent citizen of the United States should by now know that their country is being led by THE MONEY and in the interests of MONEY.
The people aren’t the problem, and of course, nobody wants to die in a war (it’s coming unfortunately whether we like it or not), but there comes a time when we as the human race: the average man needs to stand up and do something. We can prevent this war… but I daresay not enough people believe its coming.
This article is straight up PROOF that it is coming. And I’ve known about the Pact between Iran, China and Russia for months now. If America – and by America I mean the Billingburg group aka “The Company” does what history tells us they are going to do… well fuck, there goes the world as we know it.
“THEY” must restore Chaos to have Order. NEW World Order.
XX
True, and if we don’t regain our system and restore some balance then we will ALL suffer..
you all seem to forget that we the u.s.a. have the most advanced weponry of any nations. who the rest of the world want to mimic. but the truth is if china and russia went to war with us we would just wipe them out with our advanced drones(unmaned) and highly advanced weponry,we dont need to put our soldiers in harms way anymore. if they are smart…
and they are gonna sit and watch.
U.S.A no country can defeat us…we never give up..in we all way get the W…China got 1.5 billion people…lol…one bomb will kill over 500 million…everybody pack together…enoth sayed…
Who cannot have the nuclear weapon, so it USA…
All are ready to destroy, of consequences do not think. Anything except for war cannot?
and the chinees have 3000 of them. what you americans don’t understand is the fact that most countries have very sophisticated defence system, but us millitary is based on offence/invasion and when it comes to defending us you see how fast they acted upon the regular planes on 9/11. they couldn’t even defend the pantagon against a bowing plane imagin that they have to protect you against atmic bomb or something suppersonic? the russian and chinees and in that regard iran defence is very well thoght of to defend their countries against invasion, but the us?