The One Case of Torture Obama Doesn’t Want You to Learn About

Binyam Mohamed was arrested on suspicion of being affiliated with Al Qaeda. However, the evidence against Binyam was so weak that Obama ordered him released from Guantanamo and sent to England.

As the military lawyer assigned to defend him told CNN:

When she was first assigned to represent Mohamed, she did not question he was a hardened terrorist, because “my government was saying these were the worst of the worst.” However, she now says, “There’s no reliable evidence that Mr. Mohamed was going to do anything to the United States.”

The attorney also wrote in an opinion piece for the Guardian:

 

“It is worth bearing in mind that all charges against Binyam have been dropped and that Binyam’s chief prosecutor resigned, citing the unfairness of the system. I profoundly hope that he is not being kept in Guantánamo to avoid information surrounding his rendition and torture coming out.”

What does Binyam’s case have to do with torture?

His military lawyer also told CNN:

When Mohamed was first held at a CIA prison in Morocco, “They started this monthly treatment where they would come in with a scalpel or a razor type of instrument and they would slash his genitals, just with small cuts.”

(And see this.)

Okay, that’s horrible. But at least Obama has treated him fairly, right?

Well, it is true that Obama had Binyam released. However, Obama is going to extraordinary lengths to try to cover up the extent of Binyma’s torture.

For example, Obama’s Pentagon has filed a criminal complaint against one of Binyam’s lawyers basically because he asked Obama to release details of Binyam’s torture.

The Obama administration also made a dramatic threat against the British government. Specifically, Obama told England that if British courts released any documents about Binyam’s torture, the U.S. would stop sharing vital intelligence with England, even if such intelligence would prevent a terrorist attack against England.

The Obama administration is playing real hardball to try to hide the truth.

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  • Emslykarl

    The American people elected him , twice ! So who’s to blame here ?

    • beaglebailey

      You mean the pro life, pro death penalty, pro war Christians?
      I voted for him in 08 cuz I believed his lies. That was a big mistake.
      Americans are blinded to what the government has done since 1945.
      Countless illegal invasions, countless coups installing brutal puppet dictator who torture their people while the government allows it as long as they are friendly to US interests.
      But when they break the rules, the US goes in and removes them.
      How many?
      The Shaw, Pinochet, Gaddafi, Saddam, Murbarik, ect.
      The US has killed over 30 million people, but tell that to the people and they will call you a liar.
      MLK was right when he said the US is the greatest purveyor of violence.
      Now we fund the Taliban, AQ, and the neo nazis.
      The US government is a criminal organization.
      But again, people are blind.

      • Emslykarl

        So you voted fo him because you thought he would bring America to judgement for all it’s past ” sins ” of imperialism ? You voted for him because you both hate America . That’s obvious from your rant ! America is flawed because it is governed by men who are flawed . Wars are fought for the same reason – greed , jealousy , avarice , hatred , envy , prejudice , and pride most of all ! Find a Country that is more generous, and grants more liberty to its people , and go live there ! Or , take the time and effort to seriously examine the challenges facing our Nation, and elect leaders that have real solutions for real problems : unemployment , energy , homelessness , lawlessness , education , class-warfare , etc. Obama seduced you plain and simple ! You took the bait – the charm, the suit, the cool demeanor, and never cared about his past or his narcissism . That is the truth ! And yes , it hurts . If you want to learn how noble America is , given the flawed nature of man , go live in Syria , Egypt , Iraq , Iran , Somalia , Uganda , where you would be beheaded for criticizing the government ; only then will you see the ” beam ” in your own eye so you can see the ” splinter ” in America’s eye and put it all in proper perspective .

        • Griebel

          You… use the word “rant” about beaglebailey’s clear and cogent post… in a post that epitomizes the word, “rant”? Complete with spaces before puntuation, inserting words in the other guy’s mouth (past sins and judgment and what the hell?), and all sorts of blamestorming?

          Calm down. Just settle down.

          1) Blaming the subjects for the actions of the empire is always not only unfair and stupid, since it only takes a bit of reading on the nature of government, deception, hegemony and consent to understand it’s never that simple… but counterproductive, since it focuses our moral outrage on the people who are used and deceived, rather than the people genuinely maintaining the deceptions and social-economic pressures.

          2) And just stop with the “go away if you dont like amurica and ur freedoms” blather. Emigration has always been exceptional; the vast majority of us are tied by social, cultural and economic ties to our country of birth, and I think it’s fair if we have major problems with their government’s crimes and misconduct, and even with certain dominant cultural elements. It ain’t just your country, friend.

          But no, maybe you’re right; if you are an American and object to the longstanding pattern of your government’s policies, you should go live in Somalia because you have beams in your eye and people suck and Obama has bad personal characteristics. Did I misread your post?

          • Emslykarl

            That’s a rant ! This Country belongs to all who acknowledge its nobility as well as its flaws . No one put a gun to your head , I don’t think , to force you to come here . There is no perfect government . If you can find a better one why stay here ? Ultimately , one can exercise power over the electorate only as long as the electorate is willing to tolerate that power ! So yes , the people deserve the government they choose ! Beaglebailey’s post was ” clear and cogent ” only because you are in sympathy with his assertions ; nothing more ! This is still a free country , just in case you’ve forgotten , and I chose to move here from a country where the government controls the lives of the citizens , and allows only as much freedom as they deem expedient . No , you move to Somalia ; you and your cohorts who share your disdain for America . I’m staying here by choice , because with all it’s faults it’s still the greatest country on earth .

        • Ian Frowner

          As for how generous this country is, just ask any Native American. I’m sure he/she would beg to differ. As for Obama refusing to release documents to members of the U.S. Senate, I’d say: “Where’s all of change we can believe in”? What if those documents not only detail acts of torture, but also felony murder? If they do, is Obama not obstructing justice? All personal feelings aside, is not a denial of justice to one, a denial of justice to all? Also as for your comments referencing the holding of a gun to someone’s head to force them to be in America…MY ANCESTORS WERE FORCED TO COME HERE, AND STAY HERE IN MY CASE…AS SLAVES!!!

          • Emslykarl

            What can.I say , you’ve convinced me the world sucks ! Get over it ; what are your options ?

        • Veri1138

          Hate America? What utter crap. It is the duty of every American citizen to hold their leaders accountable. To discuss our society’s failings; in order to rectify them.

          It is cowardice not to at least try.

          Wars are fought for those reasons. Wars can be fought for those reasons and as a war to combat evil. Ask Hitler. No doubt that FDR played just as much for political and economic gain as he was playing to defeat Japan and.. then… Germany.

          We got the job done and The Russians did much of the dying.

          Like your last few quips about going to live in other countries. It is true. In America, we don’t necessarily face such brutal treatment. Does not mean it does not occasionally occur. Not to the level of beheading, of course.

          On one hand, you deride the previous poster for supporting Obama. On the other hand, you tell the previous poster to go live in those countries where he or she is not to speak against the regime.

          And then you call Obama, “noble”. That’s bordering on a psychiatric charge of schizophrenia. Obama is neither noble nor is he man of the people.

          He is a scumbag, plain and simple, like many before him. That 29.7% (roughly) of eligible voters in America, elected.

          • Emslykarl

            I don’t know who this is directed at , but whoever it was, or is , you are obviously right !

    • Elizabeth Greene

      It’s Bush’s fault. Haven’t you been paying attention? The news says so. 🙂

      • Emslykarl

        Always and forever !

    • michaelrivero

      Whoever rigs the US elections?

      • Emslykarl

        Should we then excuse the American people for not paying attention, and at least vetting the person(s) who wants to govern our lives, but lacks the qualifications that equip him/her to govern effectively and judiciously ? What do you suggest we do about the rigging , since that is where you place the blame.? This is the conundrum facing our society today :wake-up or give up ! What will it be ?

        • michaelrivero

          The American people WERE paying attention, at least in the independent media, and did voice their opposition. The government intentionally tried to keep the torture secret from the American people, which renders the American people innocent as we are victims of deception by the government.

          The government gets the whole blame for this scandal. Nobody else.

          Now, of course, We The People know what the federal government is truly like. The question is not what we should or could have done about it then, but what do we do now? And the very first thing we all need to do is join the chorus of outraged global voices in denouncing the Federal Government as war criminals as loudly and as publicly as we can.

          • Emslykarl

            We the people cannot continue to pass the buck to some abstract entity called.” the government ” while claiming to be a government of , for , and by the people . Here is a quote that applies : ” one man can only subjugate the others for as long as the others are willing to be subjugated ” ! Ultimately , the responsibility for electing incompetent or corrupt people to govern , must rest with US ! We are the ones who go to the polls and cast our ballots . I’ll tell you when the lights will go on , and we the people will become engaged , and or outraged , enough to change our destiny : when the SS checks are late , and the pension funds are exhausted ; that’s when : ” apart from the Judeo-Christian base , man will not raise his voice in protest unless his peace or personal affluence is threatened ” – Francis Schaeffer .

          • michaelrivero

            You forget that the same government that uses torture and lied to us about Saddam’s nuclear weapons also rigs the national elections. So you don’t get to drop the blame on We The People for the crimes of this government.

            Are you suggesting it is time for a violent revolution?

          • Emslykarl

            The government is not some abstraction ; it is people who are put In office by we the people ! Have yo read the Bill of Rights and the Constitution ? No , I’m not suggesting a violent revolution , I’m suggesting that people become better informed about the issues , and the candidates who present themselves as offering solutions to the problems facing our society : a dysfunctional public education system ; we need a system controlled at the local level by the local citizenry , instead of by Beaurocrats in DC ;. How about our broken immigration system that allows those who are in this country illegally to receive benefits , like income tax credits and food stamps , for example . How about a simpler , fairer tax code that does not require a tax lawyer to interpret ? I suspect that very few voters take the time or trouble to educate themselves BEFORE stepping into the voting booth , about the issues or the candidates for whom they vote . How much did we know about Obama before he ran for office ? He still refuses to release his educational records from Occidental or Columbia ! Most people who do vote , are single-issue voters ; they vote for a pro-choice or pro-life candidate , for example , without giving any real thought to how well qualified the candidate is to actually govern . The same is true with pro-union , or anti-union voters . What is the single issue that trumps all others for you ? Is it the Iraq war ? No WMDs ? What ? One thing we do not need is another ideologue , surrounded by a host of other ideologues , who all think alike , and who all believe that America is a deeply flawed Country that should be punished for its past sins. What we need is leadership , not more demagoguery !

    • the silenced masses

      “who’s to blame here?” How about the people who ordered the torture, the people Obama is trying to protect, the people who lied to the American people about torture and the necessity for the invasion of Iraq?

      Obama is definitely guilty for his own war crimes, but the fact you try to reduce this to a partisan-bash of Obama, shows how deeply in denial you are of the crimes committed by the Bush Administration

      • Emslykarl

        The problem is that you see only one side of the issue . Obama , and you , blame Bush for everything and take no responsibility for anything ! Bush is no longer President , in case you have not noticed , for 6 years ! How long can you continue to blame Bush ? Are Obama’s lies somehow more acceptable than Bush’s ? My point is that the electorate gets what the electorate deserves ! That’s the point ! You can’t take a Community Organizer , put him in an Armani Suit and make him a leader ! Is the ACA debacle Bush’s fault ? Is shutting down the coal industry Bush’s fault ? Did Bush cancel the Keystone Pipeline project , which was a shovel ready project ? Who was it that promised to UNITE the Country by not focusing on ” red State and Blue , but the United States ” ; remember that ? Would you say that he’s uniting the Country now ? Would you say that Obama ” focused like a laser on the economy ” his first year in office ? Did he , in fact , ” reach across the aisle ” to work with Republicans on immigration ,as he promised to do ? In fact it could be argued that the only promise he made that he has tried hard to keep is to ” Fundamentally transform this Country ” . What the hell did he mean by that , anyway ? Did anyone ever ask him , from what to what ? I could go on , but it would be futile to try to persuade you that his performance as POTUS has been less than stellar ! The record speaks of itself ; and so does Bush’s by the way ! Both men lacked what it takes to make a good president , let alone a great one ! History will bear that out ! This nation is more divided today than it has been in 50 years , and that is not a record to boast about .

        • the silenced masses

          “and you , blame Bush for everything and take no responsibility for anything ”
          to
          First, it was the Bush Administration that authorized and the same people continue to justify it to this day, despite the fact it is clear they knew it wasn

          • Emslykarl

            There you go again ! Is that the overriding issue with you , Bush’s war ? We have 27 million people who have dropped out of the workforce since 2008 ; we have a national debt that exceeds 18 Trillion dollars ; we have a dysfunctional public education system ; we have a stalled economy ; we still rely on foreign oil for our energy needs ; we have a foreign policy that is best described as chaotic ; we have a deeply divided country ; we have a total lack of confidence on our government ; and you are still hung up on Bush and his blunders ! Has pulling out of Iraq solved our middle-east problems ? How do you feel when you watch fellow Americans beheaded on TV ? What do you suggest we do about the terrorists whose announced goal is to ” kill the infidels – you and me , and to ” wipe Israel off the map “? What about our dollar losing its value , and the fact that several countries no longer trade in dollars , whereas it was the basis of all trading internationally until recently ? How about China replacing the US as the world’s largest economy ? How do you feel about the fact that we are no longer trusted or respected by our allies? Dose that concern you at all ? An armed uprising will solve nothing , what we need is a better informed electorate , and soon , or the America our children and grandchildren inherit will be far different than the one our ancestors fought an died to protect and defend .

          • the silenced masses

            You’re obviously lacking in basic reading comprehensions skills, so there’s no point “arguing” with someone who cannot understand what I’m saying.

            Some advice, learn to read and then finish grade school

          • Emslykarl

            Did you ?

  • babyson

    If you have a mad dog that bites and you put up sign that read be ware mad dog and dog gets out and bites a young kid. You are at fault and you get sued because your sign mad dog Obama cant play the I didn’t know card. IT IS SAID THAT WHEN OBAMA TOOK OFFICE HE GAVE BUSH IMMUNITY FOR A CRIME THAT DIDNT OCCUR OR WAS NOT A CRIME, SO WITCH IS I. SO THEY LET THE TIME RUN OUT ON A CRIME THAT THEY SAY NEVER HAPPEN ? IS THIS THE TWILIGHT ZONE OR WHAT? OBAMA YOU MY FRIEND ARE BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE! OBAMA CAN GIVE IMMUNITY BUT IT WILL NOT HOLD UP IN WORLD COURT ! AND WHO IS GOING TO GIVE YOU IMMUNITY. REMEMBER WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT JAILS OUR WHISTLE BLOWERS WHAT CHANCE DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE. YOU MIGHT WONT TO COME CLEAN TIME IS RUNING OUT!